Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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A few articles of interest

'Murder rates go UP dramatically after BLM protests, study finds'

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/murder-rates-go-up-dramatically-after-blm-protests-study-finds/ar-BB1fWwzt

"many of the people putting BLM signs on their front lawns and blacking out their social media profiles are unaware of the extent of BLM fanaticism"

https://www.stanforddaily.com/2020/11/15/the-case-against-blm/


"report reveals nearly 570 violent demonstrations--riots--in nearly 220 locations spread all across country."

https://acleddata.com/acleddatanew/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/ACLED_USDataReview_Sum2020_SeptWebPDF.pdf

'The Black Lives Matter Movement Must Solve Its Violence Problem'

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/black-lives-matter-movement-must-solve-its-violence-problem-163732

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You're dodging the issue.

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No, very much the opposite. Your darling cause celebre is a gang of violent thugs.

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People who want equality are violent thugs? OK bud. Where is that evidence that less than 95% of BLM protests over last summer were peaceful?

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BLM was never about equality.

They are marxists

https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/

They use donations for their personal gain

https://nypost.com/2021/04/10/inside-blm-co-founder-patrisse-khan-cullors-real-estate-buying-binge/

They use violence to destabilize the nation

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/08/31/riots-violence-erupting-turning-many-away-blm-and-protests-column/5675343002/

https://www.politicsweb.co.za/politics/blm-use-of-violence-can-be-rational--nmf

https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/07/black-lives-matter-hypocrisy-cheering-violence/


There is a reason most Americans no longer trust or support BLM. The name was always a lie, promoting something very different from their real aims and objectives.

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You've fallen for the right wing narrative. There are plenty of bad actors who try to take over good movements for personal gain, but that does not affect the movement itself.

There were people like you who criticized the civil rights movement after Dr King was assassinated. There were bad actors who tried to monetize it, and it gave people like you an excuse to dismiss the entire movement.

"See, Dr King just wanted to get rich! It was never about civil rights!" - oldbear in 1968

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Claiming I or my family did or would have opposed civil rights is complete BS and I resent the cheap shot.

It's fine that you like BLM, but that last post was just slimy, Porteroso.

Show me one time - ever - that I posted a racist comment here on SicEm365, or apologize for that slander.

My guess is you will just slink away and pretend you didn't say it.

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I'm drawing comparisons to like situations. It's not rocket science. If you are against a movement named "black lives matter" in 2021, because some bad actors tried to monetize it, I can't imagine you supported the Civil Rights movement in the 1960s.

And don't pretend you actually want a response. You ignore the points I make in favor of straw man arguments.

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As expected, Porteroso, you prove yourself a coward and a boor. Nothing better than sewer waste with a keyboard.

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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A few articles of interest

'Murder rates go UP dramatically after BLM protests, study finds'

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/murder-rates-go-up-dramatically-after-blm-protests-study-finds/ar-BB1fWwzt

"many of the people putting BLM signs on their front lawns and blacking out their social media profiles are unaware of the extent of BLM fanaticism"

https://www.stanforddaily.com/2020/11/15/the-case-against-blm/


"report reveals nearly 570 violent demonstrations--riots--in nearly 220 locations spread all across country."

https://acleddata.com/acleddatanew/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/ACLED_USDataReview_Sum2020_SeptWebPDF.pdf

'The Black Lives Matter Movement Must Solve Its Violence Problem'

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/black-lives-matter-movement-must-solve-its-violence-problem-163732

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You're dodging the issue.

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No, very much the opposite. Your darling cause celebre is a gang of violent thugs.

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People who want equality are violent thugs? OK bud. Where is that evidence that less than 95% of BLM protests over last summer were peaceful?

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BLM was never about equality.

They are marxists

https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/

They use donations for their personal gain

https://nypost.com/2021/04/10/inside-blm-co-founder-patrisse-khan-cullors-real-estate-buying-binge/

They use violence to destabilize the nation

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/08/31/riots-violence-erupting-turning-many-away-blm-and-protests-column/5675343002/

https://www.politicsweb.co.za/politics/blm-use-of-violence-can-be-rational--nmf

https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/07/black-lives-matter-hypocrisy-cheering-violence/


There is a reason most Americans no longer trust or support BLM. The name was always a lie, promoting something very different from their real aims and objectives.

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You've fallen for the right wing narrative. There are plenty of bad actors who try to take over good movements for personal gain, but that does not affect the movement itself.

There were people like you who criticized the civil rights movement after Dr King was assassinated. There were bad actors who tried to monetize it, and it gave people like you an excuse to dismiss the entire movement.

"See, Dr King just wanted to get rich! It was never about civil rights!" - oldbear in 1968

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Claiming I or my family did or would have opposed civil rights is complete BS and I resent the cheap shot.

It's fine that you like BLM, but that last post was just slimy, Porteroso.

Show me one time - ever - that I posted a racist comment here on SicEm365, or apologize for that slander.

My guess is you will just slink away and pretend you didn't say it.

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I'm drawing comparisons to like situations. It's not rocket science. If you are against a movement named "black lives matter" in 2021, because some bad actors tried to monetize it, I can't imagine you supported the Civil Rights movement in the 1960s.

And don't pretend you actually want a response. You ignore the points I make in favor of straw man arguments.

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As expected, Porteroso, you prove yourself a coward and a boor. Nothing better than sewer waste with a keyboard.

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There seems to be a lot that old people just can't deal with. Puts nursing homes in a new light for me.

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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A few articles of interest

'Murder rates go UP dramatically after BLM protests, study finds'

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/murder-rates-go-up-dramatically-after-blm-protests-study-finds/ar-BB1fWwzt

"many of the people putting BLM signs on their front lawns and blacking out their social media profiles are unaware of the extent of BLM fanaticism"

https://www.stanforddaily.com/2020/11/15/the-case-against-blm/


"report reveals nearly 570 violent demonstrations--riots--in nearly 220 locations spread all across country."

https://acleddata.com/acleddatanew/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/ACLED_USDataReview_Sum2020_SeptWebPDF.pdf

'The Black Lives Matter Movement Must Solve Its Violence Problem'

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/black-lives-matter-movement-must-solve-its-violence-problem-163732

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You're dodging the issue.

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No, very much the opposite. Your darling cause celebre is a gang of violent thugs.

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People who want equality are violent thugs? OK bud. Where is that evidence that less than 95% of BLM protests over last summer were peaceful?

---

BLM was never about equality.

They are marxists

https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/

They use donations for their personal gain

https://nypost.com/2021/04/10/inside-blm-co-founder-patrisse-khan-cullors-real-estate-buying-binge/

They use violence to destabilize the nation

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/08/31/riots-violence-erupting-turning-many-away-blm-and-protests-column/5675343002/

https://www.politicsweb.co.za/politics/blm-use-of-violence-can-be-rational--nmf

https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/07/black-lives-matter-hypocrisy-cheering-violence/


There is a reason most Americans no longer trust or support BLM. The name was always a lie, promoting something very different from their real aims and objectives.

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You've fallen for the right wing narrative. There are plenty of bad actors who try to take over good movements for personal gain, but that does not affect the movement itself.

There were people like you who criticized the civil rights movement after Dr King was assassinated. There were bad actors who tried to monetize it, and it gave people like you an excuse to dismiss the entire movement.

"See, Dr King just wanted to get rich! It was never about civil rights!" - oldbear in 1968

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Claiming I or my family did or would have opposed civil rights is complete BS and I resent the cheap shot.

It's fine that you like BLM, but that last post was just slimy, Porteroso.

Show me one time - ever - that I posted a racist comment here on SicEm365, or apologize for that slander.

My guess is you will just slink away and pretend you didn't say it.

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I'm drawing comparisons to like situations. It's not rocket science. If you are against a movement named "black lives matter" in 2021, because some bad actors tried to monetize it, I can't imagine you supported the Civil Rights movement in the 1960s.

And don't pretend you actually want a response. You ignore the points I make in favor of straw man arguments.

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As expected, Porteroso, you prove yourself a coward and a boor. Nothing better than sewer waste with a keyboard.

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There seems to be a lot that old people just can't deal with. Puts nursing homes in a new light for me.

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It's sad, really, that Porteroso can do no better than false claims and malicious character.

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Oldbear83 said:

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I linked to supporting evidence, while you have nothing but an stale fake 'race' card.

And no one here ever went after MLK's vision of judging people by their character, although you came close by linking 'kill the cops' BLM and their building burnings with him, as if any sane person would see them as the same.

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Oldbear83 said:

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You are late with weak efforts. Stop supporting hate, Porteroso.

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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A few articles of interest

'Murder rates go UP dramatically after BLM protests, study finds'

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/murder-rates-go-up-dramatically-after-blm-protests-study-finds/ar-BB1fWwzt

"many of the people putting BLM signs on their front lawns and blacking out their social media profiles are unaware of the extent of BLM fanaticism"

https://www.stanforddaily.com/2020/11/15/the-case-against-blm/


"report reveals nearly 570 violent demonstrations--riots--in nearly 220 locations spread all across country."

https://acleddata.com/acleddatanew/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/ACLED_USDataReview_Sum2020_SeptWebPDF.pdf

'The Black Lives Matter Movement Must Solve Its Violence Problem'

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/black-lives-matter-movement-must-solve-its-violence-problem-163732

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You're dodging the issue.

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No, very much the opposite. Your darling cause celebre is a gang of violent thugs.

---

People who want equality are violent thugs? OK bud. Where is that evidence that less than 95% of BLM protests over last summer were peaceful?

---

BLM was never about equality.

They are marxists

https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/

They use donations for their personal gain

https://nypost.com/2021/04/10/inside-blm-co-founder-patrisse-khan-cullors-real-estate-buying-binge/

They use violence to destabilize the nation

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/08/31/riots-violence-erupting-turning-many-away-blm-and-protests-column/5675343002/

https://www.politicsweb.co.za/politics/blm-use-of-violence-can-be-rational--nmf

https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/07/black-lives-matter-hypocrisy-cheering-violence/


There is a reason most Americans no longer trust or support BLM. The name was always a lie, promoting something very different from their real aims and objectives.

---

You've fallen for the right wing narrative. There are plenty of bad actors who try to take over good movements for personal gain, but that does not affect the movement itself.

There were people like you who criticized the civil rights movement after Dr King was assassinated. There were bad actors who tried to monetize it, and it gave people like you an excuse to dismiss the entire movement.

"See, Dr King just wanted to get rich! It was never about civil rights!" - oldbear in 1968

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Claiming I or my family did or would have opposed civil rights is complete BS and I resent the cheap shot.

It's fine that you like BLM, but that last post was just slimy, Porteroso.

Show me one time - ever - that I posted a racist comment here on SicEm365, or apologize for that slander.

My guess is you will just slink away and pretend you didn't say it.

---

I'm drawing comparisons to like situations. It's not rocket science. If you are against a movement named "black lives matter" in 2021, because some bad actors tried to monetize it, I can't imagine you supported the Civil Rights movement in the 1960s.

And don't pretend you actually want a response. You ignore
the points I make in favor of straw man arguments.

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Rawhide said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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A few articles of interest

'Murder rates go UP dramatically after BLM protests, study finds'

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/murder-rates-go-up-dramatically-after-blm-protests-study-finds/ar-BB1fWwzt

"many of the people putting BLM signs on their front lawns and blacking out their social media profiles are unaware of the extent of BLM fanaticism"

https://www.stanforddaily.com/2020/11/15/the-case-against-blm/


"report reveals nearly 570 violent demonstrations--riots--in nearly 220 locations spread all across country."

https://acleddata.com/acleddatanew/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/ACLED_USDataReview_Sum2020_SeptWebPDF.pdf

'The Black Lives Matter Movement Must Solve Its Violence Problem'

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/black-lives-matter-movement-must-solve-its-violence-problem-163732

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You're dodging the issue.

---

No, very much the opposite. Your darling cause celebre is a gang of violent thugs.

---

People who want equality are violent thugs? OK bud. Where is that evidence that less than 95% of BLM protests over last summer were peaceful?

---

BLM was never about equality.

They are marxists

https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/

They use donations for their personal gain

https://nypost.com/2021/04/10/inside-blm-co-founder-patrisse-khan-cullors-real-estate-buying-binge/

They use violence to destabilize the nation

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/08/31/riots-violence-erupting-turning-many-away-blm-and-protests-column/5675343002/

https://www.politicsweb.co.za/politics/blm-use-of-violence-can-be-rational--nmf

https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/07/black-lives-matter-hypocrisy-cheering-violence/


There is a reason most Americans no longer trust or support BLM. The name was always a lie, promoting something very different from their real aims and objectives.

---

You've fallen for the right wing narrative. There are plenty of bad actors who try to take over good movements for personal gain, but that does not affect the movement itself.

There were people like you who criticized the civil rights movement after Dr King was assassinated. There were bad actors who tried to monetize it, and it gave people like you an excuse to dismiss the entire movement.

"See, Dr King just wanted to get rich! It was never about civil rights!" - oldbear in 1968

---

Claiming I or my family did or would have opposed civil rights is complete BS and I resent the cheap shot.

It's fine that you like BLM, but that last post was just slimy, Porteroso.

Show me one time - ever - that I posted a racist comment here on SicEm365, or apologize for that slander.

My guess is you will just slink away and pretend you didn't say it.

---

I'm drawing comparisons to like situations. It's not rocket science. If you are against a movement named "black lives matter" in 2021, because some bad actors tried to monetize it, I can't imagine you supported the Civil Rights movement in the 1960s.

And don't pretend you actually want a response. You ignore the points I make in favor of straw man arguments.

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Except that BLM really doesn't care about black lives, so there's that.

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muddybrazos said:

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Porteroso said:

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Rawhide said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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A few articles of interest

'Murder rates go UP dramatically after BLM protests, study finds'

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/murder-rates-go-up-dramatically-after-blm-protests-study-finds/ar-BB1fWwzt

"many of the people putting BLM signs on their front lawns and blacking out their social media profiles are unaware of the extent of BLM fanaticism"

https://www.stanforddaily.com/2020/11/15/the-case-against-blm/


"report reveals nearly 570 violent demonstrations--riots--in nearly 220 locations spread all across country."

https://acleddata.com/acleddatanew/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/ACLED_USDataReview_Sum2020_SeptWebPDF.pdf

'The Black Lives Matter Movement Must Solve Its Violence Problem'

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/black-lives-matter-movement-must-solve-its-violence-problem-163732

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You're dodging the issue.

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No, very much the opposite. Your darling cause celebre is a gang of violent thugs.

---

People who want equality are violent thugs? OK bud. Where is that evidence that less than 95% of BLM protests over last summer were peaceful?

---

BLM was never about equality.

They are marxists

https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/

They use donations for their personal gain

https://nypost.com/2021/04/10/inside-blm-co-founder-patrisse-khan-cullors-real-estate-buying-binge/

They use violence to destabilize the nation

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/08/31/riots-violence-erupting-turning-many-away-blm-and-protests-column/5675343002/

https://www.politicsweb.co.za/politics/blm-use-of-violence-can-be-rational--nmf

https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/07/black-lives-matter-hypocrisy-cheering-violence/


There is a reason most Americans no longer trust or support BLM. The name was always a lie, promoting something very different from their real aims and objectives.

---

You've fallen for the right wing narrative. There are plenty of bad actors who try to take over good movements for personal gain, but that does not affect the movement itself.

There were people like you who criticized the civil rights movement after Dr King was assassinated. There were bad actors who tried to monetize it, and it gave people like you an excuse to dismiss the entire movement.

"See, Dr King just wanted to get rich! It was never about civil rights!" - oldbear in 1968

---

Claiming I or my family did or would have opposed civil rights is complete BS and I resent the cheap shot.

It's fine that you like BLM, but that last post was just slimy, Porteroso.

Show me one time - ever - that I posted a racist comment here on SicEm365, or apologize for that slander.

My guess is you will just slink away and pretend you didn't say it.

---

I'm drawing comparisons to like situations. It's not rocket science. If you are against a movement named "black lives matter" in 2021, because some bad actors tried to monetize it, I can't imagine you supported the Civil Rights movement in the 1960s.

And don't pretend you actually want a response. You ignore the points I make in favor of straw man arguments.

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Except that BLM really doesn't care about black lives, so there's that.

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I don't think we are thinking the same thing when we say "BLM." I am thinking of a grassroots movement of equality and fairness, that only recently used "black lives matter" as a slogan. You must be thinking of the bad actors who are trying to establish themselves as leaders of the movement, and monetize it.

So yes, the BLM "leaders" don't care about anything other than money.

Most people who would say they support BLM support the slogan, the same way they support the greater movement fighting for equality and fairness.

I mean it's called black lives matter, and your response is that black lives matter doesn't really care about black lives? You've got to see how ridiculous you sound. And if you're going to be honest, you need to differentiate between the larger movement, and the bad actors seeking to monetize the movement, as bad actors always have and always will.

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If BLM said we are going to march in support of cleaning up communities and helping to end gang violence then I would support that cause. Until they do that then they are not really serious about helping the black community. They have done more to hurt the black community than help bc it seems to me that race relations have gotten a lot worse since they have come on the scene. Advocating for ending the nuclear family is not a good solution. Calling for defunding the police is also not a good solution bc that leads to more violence in those communities.

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Porteroso said:

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Rawhide said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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A few articles of interest

'Murder rates go UP dramatically after BLM protests, study finds'

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/murder-rates-go-up-dramatically-after-blm-protests-study-finds/ar-BB1fWwzt

"many of the people putting BLM signs on their front lawns and blacking out their social media profiles are unaware of the extent of BLM fanaticism"

https://www.stanforddaily.com/2020/11/15/the-case-against-blm/


"report reveals nearly 570 violent demonstrations--riots--in nearly 220 locations spread all across country."

https://acleddata.com/acleddatanew/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/ACLED_USDataReview_Sum2020_SeptWebPDF.pdf

'The Black Lives Matter Movement Must Solve Its Violence Problem'

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/black-lives-matter-movement-must-solve-its-violence-problem-163732

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You're dodging the issue.

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No, very much the opposite. Your darling cause celebre is a gang of violent thugs.

---

People who want equality are violent thugs? OK bud. Where is that evidence that less than 95% of BLM protests over last summer were peaceful?

---

BLM was never about equality.

They are marxists

https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/

They use donations for their personal gain

https://nypost.com/2021/04/10/inside-blm-co-founder-patrisse-khan-cullors-real-estate-buying-binge/

They use violence to destabilize the nation

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/08/31/riots-violence-erupting-turning-many-away-blm-and-protests-column/5675343002/

https://www.politicsweb.co.za/politics/blm-use-of-violence-can-be-rational--nmf

https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/07/black-lives-matter-hypocrisy-cheering-violence/


There is a reason most Americans no longer trust or support BLM. The name was always a lie, promoting something very different from their real aims and objectives.

---

You've fallen for the right wing narrative. There are plenty of bad actors who try to take over good movements for personal gain, but that does not affect the movement itself.

There were people like you who criticized the civil rights movement after Dr King was assassinated. There were bad actors who tried to monetize it, and it gave people like you an excuse to dismiss the entire movement.

"See, Dr King just wanted to get rich! It was never about civil rights!" - oldbear in 1968

---

Claiming I or my family did or would have opposed civil rights is complete BS and I resent the cheap shot.

It's fine that you like BLM, but that last post was just slimy, Porteroso.

Show me one time - ever - that I posted a racist comment here on SicEm365, or apologize for that slander.

My guess is you will just slink away and pretend you didn't say it.

---

I'm drawing comparisons to like situations. It's not rocket science. If you are against a movement named "black lives matter" in 2021, because some bad actors tried to monetize it, I can't imagine you supported the Civil Rights movement in the 1960s.

And don't pretend you actually want a response. You ignore the points I make in favor of straw man arguments.

---

Except that BLM really doesn't care about black lives, so there's that.

---

I don't think we are thinking the same thing when we say "BLM." I am thinking of a grassroots movement of equality and fairness, that only recently used "black lives matter" as a slogan. You must be thinking of the bad actors who are trying to establish themselves as leaders of the movement, and monetize it.

So yes, the BLM "leaders" don't care about anything other than money.

Most people who would say they support BLM support the slogan, the same way they support the greater movement fighting for equality and fairness.

I mean it's called black lives matter, and your response is that black lives matter doesn't really care about black lives? You've got to see how ridiculous you sound. And if you're going to be honest, you need to differentiate between the larger movement, and the bad actors seeking to monetize the movement, as bad actors always have and always will.

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Rawhide said:

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Porteroso said:

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Rawhide said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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A few articles of interest

'Murder rates go UP dramatically after BLM protests, study finds'

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/murder-rates-go-up-dramatically-after-blm-protests-study-finds/ar-BB1fWwzt

"many of the people putting BLM signs on their front lawns and blacking out their social media profiles are unaware of the extent of BLM fanaticism"

https://www.stanforddaily.com/2020/11/15/the-case-against-blm/


"report reveals nearly 570 violent demonstrations--riots--in nearly 220 locations spread all across country."

https://acleddata.com/acleddatanew/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/ACLED_USDataReview_Sum2020_SeptWebPDF.pdf

'The Black Lives Matter Movement Must Solve Its Violence Problem'

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/black-lives-matter-movement-must-solve-its-violence-problem-163732

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You're dodging the issue.

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No, very much the opposite. Your darling cause celebre is a gang of violent thugs.

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People who want equality are violent thugs? OK bud. Where is that evidence that less than 95% of BLM protests over last summer were peaceful?

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BLM was never about equality.

They are marxists

https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/

They use donations for their personal gain

https://nypost.com/2021/04/10/inside-blm-co-founder-patrisse-khan-cullors-real-estate-buying-binge/

They use violence to destabilize the nation

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/08/31/riots-violence-erupting-turning-many-away-blm-and-protests-column/5675343002/

https://www.politicsweb.co.za/politics/blm-use-of-violence-can-be-rational--nmf

https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/07/black-lives-matter-hypocrisy-cheering-violence/


There is a reason most Americans no longer trust or support BLM. The name was always a lie, promoting something very different from their real aims and objectives.

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You've fallen for the right wing narrative. There are plenty of bad actors who try to take over good movements for personal gain, but that does not affect the movement itself.

There were people like you who criticized the civil rights movement after Dr King was assassinated. There were bad actors who tried to monetize it, and it gave people like you an excuse to dismiss the entire movement.

"See, Dr King just wanted to get rich! It was never about civil rights!" - oldbear in 1968

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Claiming I or my family did or would have opposed civil rights is complete BS and I resent the cheap shot.

It's fine that you like BLM, but that last post was just slimy, Porteroso.

Show me one time - ever - that I posted a racist comment here on SicEm365, or apologize for that slander.

My guess is you will just slink away and pretend you didn't say it.

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I'm drawing comparisons to like situations. It's not rocket science. If you are against a movement named "black lives matter" in 2021, because some bad actors tried to monetize it, I can't imagine you supported the Civil Rights movement in the 1960s.

And don't pretend you actually want a response. You ignore the points I make in favor of straw man arguments.

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Except that BLM really doesn't care about black lives, so there's that.

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I don't think we are thinking the same thing when we say "BLM." I am thinking of a grassroots movement of equality and fairness, that only recently used "black lives matter" as a slogan. You must be thinking of the bad actors who are trying to establish themselves as leaders of the movement, and monetize it.

So yes, the BLM "leaders" don't care about anything other than money.

Most people who would say they support BLM support the slogan, the same way they support the greater movement fighting for equality and fairness.

I mean it's called black lives matter, and your response is that black lives matter doesn't really care about black lives? You've got to see how ridiculous you sound. And if you're going to be honest, you need to differentiate between the larger movement, and the bad actors seeking to monetize the movement, as bad actors always have and always will.

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It's ridiculous that black lives matter haven't actually done anything that about black lives in places like detrois, st. louis, chicago, etc....

If they cared, they'd be there.

Also, please direct to white people have extra rights that black people don't?

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Oldbear83 said:

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Your problem, Porteroso, is that the BLM movement has - by its actions - made plain that their name is a lie. They don't care any more about helping black people than did David Duke. The fact that most crime against Black people is by other Black people is something you and BLM ignore - you only want to attack White people. The fact that the path out of Poverty for most people, regardless of color, is to have two parents, finish high school, and not have children until you finish high school and get married, is of no value to BLM or to you.

You are all about false accusations, and BLM is all about their personal gain, as the real estate deals by their leader shows. BLM advances a Marxist agenda, again by the claim of their own founder. Whatever the ground level member of BLM wants to believe, the group is manipulated for financial and political power for a very few, and does nothing to help Black people in the main.

As R2 warned you before, the BLM now is painfully similar to the KKK. Racist, self-serving, myopic, malicious and dishonest to the core.

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Your problem, Porteroso, is that the BLM movement has - by its actions - made plain that their name is a lie. They don't care any more about helping black people than did David Duke. The fact that most crime against Black people is by other Black people is something you and BLM ignore - you only want to attack White people. The fact that the path out of Poverty for most people, regardless of color, is to have two parents, finish high school, and not have children until you finish high school and get married, is of no value to BLM or to you.

You are all about false accusations, and BLM is all about their personal gain, as the real estate deals by their leader shows. BLM advances a Marxist agenda, again by the claim of their own founder. Whatever the ground level member of BLM wants to believe, the group is manipulated for financial and political power for a very few, and does nothing to help Black people in the main.

As R2 warned you before, the BLM now is painfully similar to the KKK. Racist, self-serving, myopic, malicious and dishonest to the core.

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Comparing the racism of the KKK to a movement called black lives matter. I didn't even register it when R2 said it.

You're mistaken.

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Rawhide said:

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quash said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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quash said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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A few articles of interest

'Murder rates go UP dramatically after BLM protests, study finds'

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/murder-rates-go-up-dramatically-after-blm-protests-study-finds/ar-BB1fWwzt

"many of the people putting BLM signs on their front lawns and blacking out their social media profiles are unaware of the extent of BLM fanaticism"

https://www.stanforddaily.com/2020/11/15/the-case-against-blm/


"report reveals nearly 570 violent demonstrations--riots--in nearly 220 locations spread all across country."

https://acleddata.com/acleddatanew/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/ACLED_USDataReview_Sum2020_SeptWebPDF.pdf

'The Black Lives Matter Movement Must Solve Its Violence Problem'

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/black-lives-matter-movement-must-solve-its-violence-problem-163732

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You're dodging the issue.

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No, very much the opposite. Your darling cause celebre is a gang of violent thugs.

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People who want equality are violent thugs? OK bud. Where is that evidence that less than 95% of BLM protests over last summer were peaceful?

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Yes. Antifa and BLM are violent thugs. They should be treated as such and flushed.

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You want to flush me? What does that mean?

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Don't ever want to sugarcoat, Mr. Libertarian, but I think it means you are a turd!
And when you lay with the dogs, you usually get fleas.

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So you want to drown me for a peaceful march, a peaceful rally, and a neighborhood clean up? Or because 7% of last summer's protests turned violent you want to drown the participants in the peaceful 93%, Mr. Living in Fear?

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615 people have been charged in connection with the Capitol Building incident on Jan 6th. Can't find it now, but I saw an estimate of 800 people entered the building, but I'll go head and double the amount (going off the number of those that have been charged) to 1,200.

Can't find an accurate estimate of the crowd at Trump's rally that day, but 30,000 were expected, so I'll use that figure.

1,200 people out of 30,000 represent 4%.

So, I'm glad to know, using your logic, that you think Trump's protest/rally was mostly peaceful on Jan 6th.

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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You are late with weak efforts. Stop supporting hate, Porteroso.

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I'm not actually thinking you care about truth or facts, I'm posting this because other people read the forum, and aren't all so obtuse as you.

It does matter, if you're lying. It may not matter to you, in fact I have evidence it does not. Evidence of your lies may come entire days after your lie, but it's never too late for the truth! Truth seeker Porter over here, defending the world against old bears and their lies.

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BLM is the current Progressive version of the KKK. The fact that you defend and align with them and Antifa tells us all we need to know about you.

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Your problem, Porteroso, is that the BLM movement has - by its actions - made plain that their name is a lie. They don't care any more about helping black people than did David Duke. The fact that most crime against Black people is by other Black people is something you and BLM ignore - you only want to attack White people. The fact that the path out of Poverty for most people, regardless of color, is to have two parents, finish high school, and not have children until you finish high school and get married, is of no value to BLM or to you.

You are all about false accusations, and BLM is all about their personal gain, as the real estate deals by their leader shows. BLM advances a Marxist agenda, again by the claim of their own founder. Whatever the ground level member of BLM wants to believe, the group is manipulated for financial and political power for a very few, and does nothing to help Black people in the main.

As R2 warned you before, the BLM now is painfully similar to the KKK. Racist, self-serving, myopic, malicious and dishonest to the core.

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Comparing the racism of the KKK to a movement called black lives matter. I didn't even register it when R2 said it.

You're mistaken.

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I think not. I think you have chosen poorly in groups you defend, Porteroso.

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quash said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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You are late with weak efforts. Stop supporting hate, Porteroso.

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I'm not actually thinking you care about truth or facts, I'm posting this because other people read the forum, and aren't all so obtuse as you.

It does matter, if you're lying. It may not matter to you, in fact I have evidence it does not. Evidence of your lies may come entire days after your lie, but it's never too late for the truth! Truth seeker Porter over here, defending the world against old bears and their lies.

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BLM is the current Progressive version of the KKK. The fact that you defend and align with them and Antifa tells us all we need to know about you.

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Astounding amount of ignorance there.

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Your problem, Porteroso, is that the BLM movement has - by its actions - made plain that their name is a lie. They don't care any more about helping black people than did David Duke. The fact that most crime against Black people is by other Black people is something you and BLM ignore - you only want to attack White people. The fact that the path out of Poverty for most people, regardless of color, is to have two parents, finish high school, and not have children until you finish high school and get married, is of no value to BLM or to you.

You are all about false accusations, and BLM is all about their personal gain, as the real estate deals by their leader shows. BLM advances a Marxist agenda, again by the claim of their own founder. Whatever the ground level member of BLM wants to believe, the group is manipulated for financial and political power for a very few, and does nothing to help Black people in the main.

As R2 warned you before, the BLM now is painfully similar to the KKK. Racist, self-serving, myopic, malicious and dishonest to the core.

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Comparing the racism of the KKK to a movement called black lives matter. I didn't even register it when R2 said it.

You're mistaken.

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I think not. I think you have chosen poorly in groups you defend, Porteroso.

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If there was ever a use for the term white fragility, it's right here. White people saying the racism of black lives matter is comparable to the KKK. I'm not sure if it's worse that you are normalizing the racism of the KKK, or that you are threatened by a group of people seeking fairness and equality, but frail whiteness indeed.

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Pretending BLM seeks 'fairness and equality' is naive, given the statements of their leadership and the behavior of the past 5 years.

It's simply not true from their actions and focus. Rather, it is reasonable to describe the behavior of BLM as racist and malicious.

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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quash said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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You are late with weak efforts. Stop supporting hate, Porteroso.

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I'm not actually thinking you care about truth or facts, I'm posting this because other people read the forum, and aren't all so obtuse as you.

It does matter, if you're lying. It may not matter to you, in fact I have evidence it does not. Evidence of your lies may come entire days after your lie, but it's never too late for the truth! Truth seeker Porter over here, defending the world against old bears and their lies.

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BLM is the current Progressive version of the KKK. The fact that you defend and align with them and Antifa tells us all we need to know about you.

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Astounding amount of ignorance there.

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Wonderful and well-thought out response. I have come to expect nothing more from you and your Progressive Left brethren.

"Pigs in a blanket... fry like bacon!". You own it.

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Rawhide said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Your problem, Porteroso, is that the BLM movement has - by its actions - made plain that their name is a lie. They don't care any more about helping black people than did David Duke. The fact that most crime against Black people is by other Black people is something you and BLM ignore - you only want to attack White people. The fact that the path out of Poverty for most people, regardless of color, is to have two parents, finish high school, and not have children until you finish high school and get married, is of no value to BLM or to you.

You are all about false accusations, and BLM is all about their personal gain, as the real estate deals by their leader shows. BLM advances a Marxist agenda, again by the claim of their own founder. Whatever the ground level member of BLM wants to believe, the group is manipulated for financial and political power for a very few, and does nothing to help Black people in the main.

As R2 warned you before, the BLM now is painfully similar to the KKK. Racist, self-serving, myopic, malicious and dishonest to the core.

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Comparing the racism of the KKK to a movement called black lives matter. I didn't even register it when R2 said it.

You're mistaken.

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I think not. I think you have chosen poorly in groups you defend, Porteroso.

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If there was ever a use for the term white fragility, it's right here. White people saying the racism of black lives matter is comparable to the KKK. I'm not sure if it's worse that you are normalizing the racism of the KKK, or that you are threatened by a group of people seeking fairness and equality, but frail whiteness indeed.

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Pretending BLM seeks 'fairness and equality' is naive, given the statements of their leadership and the behavior of the past 5 years.

It's simply not true from their actions and focus. Rather, it is reasonable to describe the behavior of BLM as racist and malicious.

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yeah, but come on, man! They have a great name... that great name tells me everything I need to know about that group. They really care, they really do, because their name tells us so.

How dare you ignore their name and instead look at their actions.

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/dallas-sniper-who-gunned-down-5-cops-wanted-to-kill-white-people-chief-says

For the BLM cheerleaders on this thread(quash and Porter) ,- own this!


https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2016/07/11/blacklivesmatter-kills-cops-fort-worth-police-group-claims-in-viral-post/

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quash said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/dallas-sniper-who-gunned-down-5-cops-wanted-to-kill-white-people-chief-says

For the BLM cheerleaders on this thread(quash and Porter) ,- own this!


https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2016/07/11/blacklivesmatter-kills-cops-fort-worth-police-group-claims-in-viral-post/

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I already have, way back when it happened. Oddly, I didn't get arrested...

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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quash said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/dallas-sniper-who-gunned-down-5-cops-wanted-to-kill-white-people-chief-says

For the BLM cheerleaders on this thread(quash and Porter) ,- own this!


https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2016/07/11/blacklivesmatter-kills-cops-fort-worth-police-group-claims-in-viral-post/

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I already have, way back when it happened. Oddly, I didn't get arrested...

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Good for you. I'll bet your Mom is proud of her cop-hater son.

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