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Gameday Thread: 3 Seed Baylor (23-10) vs 14 Seed Colgate (25-9)

March 17, 2024
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#3 Seed Baylor (23-10) takes on #14 Seed Colgate (25-9) Friday March 22nd in Memphis, Tennessee at FedEx Forum at 11:40am CST.  The game will be televised on TruTv.  

KenPom Prediction:  Baylor 77 Colgate 64

Torvik Prediction:  Baylor 76 Colgate 63

Evan Miyakawa:  Baylor 78 Colgate 64

Haslametrics:  Baylor 76 Colgate 63

Coaches

Colgate:  Matt Langel (46) 227-183; 5 NCAAs

Baylor:  Scott Drew (53); 465-252 overall (435-241 at Baylor); 12 NCAAs; 5 Sweet 16s; 3 Elite 8s; FF; 1 National Championship

Head to Head:  0-0

Colgate Starters

Guard:  Braeden Smith (SO) 6-0 180 lbs; 13 ppg; 6 reb; 6 asst; 2 st; 39% FG; 31% 3pt; 78% FT

Guard:  Jalen Cox (FR) 6-3 165 lbs; 5 ppg; 3 reb; 2 asst; 49% FG; 39% 3pt; 57% FT

Forward: Brady Cummins (SO) 6-6 190 lbs; 8 ppg; 3 reb; 48% FG; 38% 3pt; 58% FT

Forward:  Ryan Moffat (SR) 6-7 220 lbs; 10 ppg; 4 reb; 43% FG; 37% 3pt; 73% FT

Forward:  Keegan Records (SR) 6-10 250 lbs; 11 ppg; 6 reb; 57% FG; 25% 3pt; 73% FT

Colgate Bench

Forward:  Jeff Woodard (SR) 6-11 270 lbs; 7 ppg; 4 reb; 62% FG; 54% FT

Guard:  Chandler Baker (SR) 6-5 185 lbs; 5 ppg; 50% FG; 46% pt; 82% FT

Guard:  Parker Jones (FR) 6-6 190 lbs; 4 ppg; 3 reb; 49% FG; 40% 3pt; 81% FT

Guard:  Nicolas Louis-Jacques (JR) 6-4 195 lbs; 7 ppg; 2 reb; 38% FG; 36% 3pt; 84% FT

Forward:  Sam Thomson (SR) 6-9 230 lbs; 4 ppg; 3 reb; 49% FG; 56% FT

Baylor Starters

Guard:  RayJ Dennis (SR) 6-3 180 lbs; 13 ppg; 4 reb; 7 asst;  48% FG; 34% 3pt; 72% FT

Guard:  Jayden Nunn (JR) 6-3 190 lbs; 11 ppg; 3 reb; 2 asst; 46% FG; 43% 3pt; 72% FT 

Guard:  Ja’Kobe Walter (FR) 6-5 185 lbs; 14 ppg; 4 reb; 2 asst; 37% FG; 34% 3pt; 82% FT

Forward:  Jalen Bridges (JR) 6-9 225 lbs; 12 ppg; 6 reb; 45% FG; 40% 3pt; 84% FT

Forward:  Yves Missi (FR) 6-11 220 lbs; 11 ppg; 6 reb; 2 blocks; 62% FG; 62% FT

Baylor Bench

Guard:  Langston Love (SO) 6-5 210 lbs; 11 ppg; 3 reb; 47% FG; 48% 3pt; 78% FT

Forward:  Caleb Lohner (JR) 6-8 235 lbs; 3 ppg; 2 reb; 59% FG; 27% 3pt; 77% FT

Forward:  Josh Ojianwuna (SO) 6-10 240 lbs; 5 ppg; 3 reb; 72% FG; 63% FT

Guard:  Miro Little (FR) 6-4 185 lbs; 2 ppg; 44% FG; 38% 3pt; 72% FT

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Gameday Thread: 3 Seed Baylor (23-10) vs 14 Seed Colgate (25-9)

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bear2be2
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In reply to PaperBear89 • 1:02p, 3/22/24
PaperBear89 said:
Stefano DiMera said:
Speaking of..did Loveday play against Kansas last night?


1 minute. Not sure how he ever wound up with us.
There are a lot of misses out of high school and AAU ball because you're projecting how guys will do against better, more mature competition based on what they're doing against high school players.

Everyone reaches the ceiling of their game at some point. Based on what he did in college, many would think Drew Timme would be a good pro. But it's a different game against a different level of competition. The same thing happens at lower levels, where you can have elite high school players incapable of making that jump.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 1:02p, 3/22/24
He was help side defending on that play. He is always chasing because our perimeter guys get blown by so easily.
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1:03p, 3/22/24
Have they been saving their appetites for the NCAA Tourney?

Our Bears are looking HUNGRY!



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In reply to Crawfoso1973 • 1:05p, 3/22/24
Crawfoso1973 said:
He was help side defending on that play. He is always chasing because our perimeter guys get blown by so easily.
He was way too high to begin with. Watch Josh, he never floats up to the free throw line for no reason. He stops the ball on blow-bys and forces a pass out to the perimeter.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 1:06p, 3/22/24
bear2be2 said:
PaperBear89 said:
Stefano DiMera said:
Speaking of..did Loveday play against Kansas last night?


1 minute. Not sure how he ever wound up with us.
There are a lot of misses out of high school and AAU ball because you're projecting how guys will do against better, more mature competition based on what they're doing against high school players.


Indeed. Same for football. Most so-called 4 and 5 stars play against a bunch of dudes who will never play another down/possession after high school.
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1:06p, 3/22/24
We look like **** to start this second half. Did we save our lull for the second half today?
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1:10p, 3/22/24
Nice run has the lead back up to 20. We're so much better defensively with Josh on the floor it's not funny. Unfortunately, we lose almost all of Missi's offense in those stretches.
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1:11p, 3/22/24
Wish RJ would have tossed the to Lohner. He's earned it.
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1:12p, 3/22/24
Might not seem like it but Lohner is giving us really nice contributions. Now if he hit those wide open corner 3s, he would be great. Still playing well
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In reply to Quinton • 1:14p, 3/22/24
Quinton said:
Might not seem like it but Lohner is giving us really nice contributions. Now if he hit those wide open corner 3s, he would be great. Still playing well
Lohner's been great. All we need from him is energy without game-changing mistakes. If he gives us that, he's a 10-15 minute-per-game player.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 1:15p, 3/22/24
bear2be2 said:
Quinton said:
Might not seem like it but Lohner is giving us really nice contributions. Now if he hit those wide open corner 3s, he would be great. Still playing well
Lohner's been great. All we need from him is energy without game-changing mistakes. If he gives us that, he's a 10-15 minute-per-game player.
His positioning is so much better right now. Excellent rebounding too
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1:16p, 3/22/24
So without Love, we have 3 subs?
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1:20p, 3/22/24
LFG!!! Finish strong boys!
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1:20p, 3/22/24
When 3s are falling like this the bears are a tough out.
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1:21p, 3/22/24
77-55 with 7:10 to go!
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1:21p, 3/22/24
I need someone to confirm this is on track for our most complete game of the year.
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1:23p, 3/22/24
I've missed most of this one because of work....I know...my priorities are messed up.

Looking forward to watching it in full tonight.
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1:23p, 3/22/24
Would like to see JTT out there practicing his "organize the defense" role. Might need him to do that later in the tourney.
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In reply to Baylor17 • 1:25p, 3/22/24
Baylor17 said:
I need someone to confirm this is on track for our most complete game of the year.
I think you have to consider the opponent to a degree because we bury teams we can overwhelm athletically.

But we've played about as well as we can offensively.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 1:26p, 3/22/24
bear2be2 said:
Baylor17 said:
I need someone to confirm this is on track for our most complete game of the year.
I think you have to consider the opponent to a degree because we bury teams we can overwhelm athletically.

But we've played about as well as we can offensively.


Thank you for grounding me to reality lol
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In reply to bear2be2 • 1:27p, 3/22/24
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Baylor17 said:
I need someone to confirm this is on track for our most complete game of the year.
I think you have to consider the opponent to a degree because we bury teams we can overwhelm athletically.

But we've played about as well as we can offensively.


I would say @TCU and @WVU were best all around.
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1:33p, 3/22/24
Come tournament time the upperclassmen make the most noise.
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1:34p, 3/22/24
I'd say take out the starters but that's pretty much all we've got.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 1:35p, 3/22/24
bear2be2 said:
PaperBear89 said:
Stefano DiMera said:
Speaking of..did Loveday play against Kansas last night?


1 minute. Not sure how he ever wound up with us.
There are a lot of misses out of high school and AAU ball because you're projecting how guys will do against better, more mature competition based on what they're doing against high school players.

Everyone reaches the ceiling of their game at some point. Based on what he did in college, many would think Drew Timme would be a good pro. But it's a different game against a different level of competition. The same thing happens at lower levels, where you can have elite high school players incapable of making that jump.
Who are the many that thought Timme would be a good pro? I'm not sure I recall anyone who's job is to project talent saying that, the fact he wasn't drafted makes it clear he wasn't thought of as a NBA talent. Sure a lot of fans maybe thought he was, but that's not like missing on guys in recruiting. Fans as a whole are bad at talent evaluation.
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1:37p, 3/22/24
EJ!!!

Man, I love that guy so much.
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1:38p, 3/22/24
SACKS FOR 3!!!!!!
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1:39p, 3/22/24
Everybody scoring.
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In reply to IvanBear • 1:46p, 3/22/24
IvanBear said:
bear2be2 said:
PaperBear89 said:
Stefano DiMera said:
Speaking of..did Loveday play against Kansas last night?


1 minute. Not sure how he ever wound up with us.
There are a lot of misses out of high school and AAU ball because you're projecting how guys will do against better, more mature competition based on what they're doing against high school players.

Everyone reaches the ceiling of their game at some point. Based on what he did in college, many would think Drew Timme would be a good pro. But it's a different game against a different level of competition. The same thing happens at lower levels, where you can have elite high school players incapable of making that jump.
Who are the many that thought Timme would be a good pro? I'm not sure I recall anyone who's job is to project talent saying that, the fact he wasn't drafted makes it clear he wasn't thought of as a NBA talent. Sure a lot of fans maybe thought he was, but that's not like missing on guys in recruiting. Fans as a whole are bad at talent evaluation.
I'm not talking about scouts. I'm speaking in generalities. It would stand to reason that a guy who dominates college basketball to the degree that he did would be good at the next level. That's not the case because the NBA is beyond his ceiling as a player.

And if you don't like the Timme example, there are plenty of similar college players who did get drafted in the first round and couldn't play that level.

The same happens with high school players.
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1:46p, 3/22/24
Compared to some of our other first round games as a #3 seed, this was one of most pleasantly boring games on record. Low stress, zero anxiety.
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1:50p, 3/22/24
pro ecclesia, pro javelina
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1:54p, 3/22/24
1st complete offensive game we've had in ages. Gotta consider the competition, but still, it's a relief to see after how often our offense looked like complete garbage for 20-30 minutes per game in the last month or so.
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1:55p, 3/22/24
Great taking care of biz win against an opponent that should be a taking care of biz win.

Sacks has got to have season record for scoring from an end of the bench last minute of blowout games trash time player (and the record for three point shots made)!
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1:57p, 3/22/24
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In reply to TeamPlayer • 1:57p, 3/22/24
TeamPlayer said:
Compared to some of our other first round games as a #3 seed, this was one of most pleasantly boring games on record. Low stress, zero anxiety.
UK would agree
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2:00p, 3/22/24
Only margins of victory so far larger than ours are UNC by 28 and Tenn by 34.
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