Gameday Thread: Baylor Hits Road To Take On No. 16 Iowa State

dycbaylor02 said:

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Dia del DougO said:

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dycbaylor02 said:

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Dia del DougO said:

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I don't know if the team quit. It may be that ISU has just seen everything Baylor does, made adjustments, got matchups and figured it all out.

I don't think the players quit. They just don't quite have a plan that matches the talent they have and can't adjust like their opponents do. They showed a lot of scrap tonight, so I don't fault them for effort. They just still have a ways to go to play four quarters and beat a decent team.

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There was some statistic that said our schedule technically gets easier after this ISU game. Dave needs to win 4 games to get out of jail. I don't see that happening

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I think 3 more would get him back, despite popular opinion. Even after a 4 win season with some pointing to close calls might give him another year. I don't think they really want to admit this great experiment was a failure, plus the buyout money.

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Agree with you on the buy out and admitting to fing up with this so called genius. Open check book is no more.

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It is not cheap to buy out Dave AND hire a quality coach. So yeah, I would not be surprised to see him back next year.

0 punts forced, 0 sacks. Pathetic

Bear75605 said:

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Daveisabovereproach said:

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If we lose next week, Dave is gone. I'm willing to put it on paper, keep the receipts, whatever the kids say these days

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Especially since we have a bye!!

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I wouldn't put it past him....

Stefano DiMera said:

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Will y'all stop with this stupid narrative

.He has to win 7 minimum to return.

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Do you really think Baylor will fire him if he gets to six wins and a bowl game?

Are you surprised? This defense is garbage

boognish_bear said:

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Stefano DiMera said:

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Will y'all stop with this stupid narrative

.He has to win 7 minimum to return.

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Do you really think Baylor will fire him if he gets to six wins and a bowl game?

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Do you really think J-Lo is going to rebound with me?

Stefano DiMera said:

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Will y'all stop with this stupid narrative

.He has to win 7 minimum to return.

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Well, it really isn't a narrative. The actual narrative is 6 wins. That's what the "insiders" are saying. I'm just opining that I think it could actually be less, contrary to the accepted measuring stick. I'm not saying I want to be right, it's just my own gut feeling.

boognish_bear said:

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Stefano DiMera said:

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Will y'all stop with this stupid narrative

.He has to win 7 minimum to return.

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Do you really think Baylor will fire him if he gets to six wins and a bowl game?

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I think a bowl game and dave keeps his job

There's just no reason to wait… Its just truly baffling how bad of a coach he is. I wanted to run across the field and ask him what the **** he's doing like 30 times

boognish_bear said:

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dycbaylor02 said:

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Dia del DougO said:

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I don't know if the team quit. It may be that ISU has just seen everything Baylor does, made adjustments, got matchups and figured it all out.

I don't think the players quit. They just don't quite have a plan that matches the talent they have and can't adjust like their opponents do. They showed a lot of scrap tonight, so I don't fault them for effort. They just still have a ways to go to play four quarters and beat a decent team.

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There was some statistic that said our schedule technically gets easier after this ISU game. Dave needs to win 4 games to get out of jail. I don't see that happening

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Our 3 conference games so far have been against 3 teams tied (with others) for first place in the conference. The combined record of those 3 teams is 14-1.

I don't know if TT can win at Arizona tonight...but if they do it will be another matchup for us against a team in first place. Winning on the road in Lubbock probably isn't happening.

That would make 4 straight losses. Will the team be able to stay together mentally?

After that it does get more doable. But if our defense can't get several things fixed I don't think it will matter.

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I think the spavital will need to work on his play calling. The offense team seems to still be in it. Our D is just dog shiet at giving up big time plays over and over which just sucks the air out of the team. Also I meant he will need to win 4 additional games on top of the 2 we have now. I just don't see it.

I miss getting to celebrate big wins

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boognish_bear said:

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Stefano DiMera said:

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Will y'all stop with this stupid narrative

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Do you really think Baylor will fire him if he gets to six wins and a bowl game?

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Theres no way this team is getting 6 wins

bear2be2 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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The program has been able to lean on being competitive in games and being close to breaking through.

We are not competitive tonight. Total ass kicking.

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That's the problem with the Dave Aranda era.

It's just a systematic obliteration of every potentially positive narrative week by week.

"The defense is better." The hell it is.
"We're a second-half team." The hell we are.

Every rationalization the most positive fan on the planet could make gets disproven within days of their presentation.

This era needs to ****ing end. It's sickening.

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A true dismantling of a program if I've ever seen a dismantling. The destruction is now complete.

boognish_bear said:

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dycbaylor02 said:

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Dia del DougO said:

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I don't know if the team quit. It may be that ISU has just seen everything Baylor does, made adjustments, got matchups and figured it all out.

I don't think the players quit. They just don't quite have a plan that matches the talent they have and can't adjust like their opponents do. They showed a lot of scrap tonight, so I don't fault them for effort. They just still have a ways to go to play four quarters and beat a decent team.

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There was some statistic that said our schedule technically gets easier after this ISU game. Dave needs to win 4 games to get out of jail. I don't see that happening

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Our 3 conference games so far have been against 3 teams tied (with others) for first place in the conference. The combined record of those 3 teams is 14-1.

I don't know if TT can win at Arizona tonight...but if they do it will be another matchup for us against a team in first place. Winning on the road in Lubbock probably isn't happening.

That would make 4 straight losses. Will the team be able to stay together mentally?

After that it does get more doable. But if our defense can't get several things fixed I don't think it will matter.

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So you don't expect to beat what you call good teams?

BearFan33 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Stefano DiMera said:

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Will y'all stop with this stupid narrative

.He has to win 7 minimum to return.

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Do you really think Baylor will fire him if he gets to six wins and a bowl game?

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I think a bowl game and dave keeps his job

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I agree - though six wins looks awfully elusive.

BearFan33 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Stefano DiMera said:

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Will y'all stop with this stupid narrative

.He has to win 7 minimum to return.

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Do you really think Baylor will fire him if he gets to six wins and a bowl game?

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I think a bowl game and dave keeps his job

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You mean the Unicorn Bowl?

JudgeBear1845 said:

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i posted this in the first quarter...still applies but now for different reasons.

If at this point, someone told me that if we keep Dave, Baylor would be guaranteed a national championship at some point in the next 20 years, I'd still pass.

Even if we manage a garbage time touchdown we won't cover

IowaBear said:

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There's just no reason to wait… Its just truly baffling how bad of a coach he is. I wanted to run across the field and ask him what the **** he's doing like 30 times

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I'm with you. Just get Aranda's loser ass away from these players. Let these guys hear from another voice -- any voice.

You guys are just being negative. We held Air Force to 25 yards passing!!!!!!!

Not watching this nonsense but I do see Dave managed to make it worse than I even expected. Looks like a wrap. This probably needs to be it.

These folks were trying to sell you on keeping it close with a pretty good, decent football team in Iowa St. Now can't even do that. Ridiculous.. and that's no disrespect to them. The fumbling of FB success this program has managed is historic. You won't find another program that's ever managed to pull it off. The self righteousness and lack of self awareness has killed this program time and time again.

It's just a systematic obliteration of every potentially positive narrative week by week.

It was that way for years under Steele.

Bearwhiz said:

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boognish_bear said:

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dycbaylor02 said:

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Dia del DougO said:

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I don't know if the team quit. It may be that ISU has just seen everything Baylor does, made adjustments, got matchups and figured it all out.

I don't think the players quit. They just don't quite have a plan that matches the talent they have and can't adjust like their opponents do. They showed a lot of scrap tonight, so I don't fault them for effort. They just still have a ways to go to play four quarters and beat a decent team.

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There was some statistic that said our schedule technically gets easier after this ISU game. Dave needs to win 4 games to get out of jail. I don't see that happening

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Our 3 conference games so far have been against 3 teams tied (with others) for first place in the conference. The combined record of those 3 teams is 14-1.

I don't know if TT can win at Arizona tonight...but if they do it will be another matchup for us against a team in first place. Winning on the road in Lubbock probably isn't happening.

That would make 4 straight losses. Will the team be able to stay together mentally?

After that it does get more doable. But if our defense can't get several things fixed I don't think it will matter.

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So you don't expect to beat what you call good teams?

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If you think I am fine with what we've seen this year you are misreading my post.

The post I was responding to mentioned that we would soon start facing less difficult opponents. That's what I was responding to.

bear2be2 said:

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IowaBear said:

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There's just no reason to wait… Its just truly baffling how bad of a coach he is. I wanted to run across the field and ask him what the **** he's doing like 30 times

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I'm with you. Just get Aranda's loser ass away from these players. Let these guys hear from another voice -- any voice.

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Yes, Dave needs to be fired tonight. The longer the players are subjected to him, the worse they are.

Dia del DougO said:

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Stefano DiMera said:

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Will y'all stop with this stupid narrative

.He has to win 7 minimum to return.

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Well, it really isn't a narrative. The actual narrative is 6 wins. That's what the "insiders" are saying. I'm just opining that I think it could actually be less, contrary to the accepted measuring stick. I'm not saying I want to be right, it's just my own gut feeling.

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We still haven't won a conference game this year. Week 6. There aren't 6 wins to be had going forward unless we play Tarleton State every week til end of season. And even then we'd probably only get 4 in that matchup.

Fire Aranda and forfeit the season. We are on our self-imposed death penalty because Person over Player.

oldbear69 said:

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name 5 p5 teams worse than bears...

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1. Vanderbilt………….Oh, wait…………
2. The End

Bearwhiz said:

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boognish_bear said:

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dycbaylor02 said:

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Dia del DougO said:

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I don't know if the team quit. It may be that ISU has just seen everything Baylor does, made adjustments, got matchups and figured it all out.

I don't think the players quit. They just don't quite have a plan that matches the talent they have and can't adjust like their opponents do. They showed a lot of scrap tonight, so I don't fault them for effort. They just still have a ways to go to play four quarters and beat a decent team.

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There was some statistic that said our schedule technically gets easier after this ISU game. Dave needs to win 4 games to get out of jail. I don't see that happening

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Our 3 conference games so far have been against 3 teams tied (with others) for first place in the conference. The combined record of those 3 teams is 14-1.

I don't know if TT can win at Arizona tonight...but if they do it will be another matchup for us against a team in first place. Winning on the road in Lubbock probably isn't happening.

That would make 4 straight losses. Will the team be able to stay together mentally?

After that it does get more doable. But if our defense can't get several things fixed I don't think it will matter.

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So you don't expect to beat what you call good teams?

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But… To answer your question… I certainly do not expect to see us beat good teams these days

Can we beat below average teams? I'm not sure.

Doc Holliday said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Stefano DiMera said:

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Will y'all stop with this stupid narrative

.He has to win 7 minimum to return.

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Do you really think Baylor will fire him if he gets to six wins and a bowl game?

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Theres no way this team is getting 6 wins

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Nope. I don't see us winning any more games. Houston maybe, but Houston has far better coaches than we do.

Exactly! We've seen many cases over the year where interns have sparked winning streaks.
Give these players a chance

Outscored 40-7 since we led 14-3…that is a team that has quit.

boognish_bear said:

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Bearwhiz said:

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boognish_bear said:

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dycbaylor02 said:

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Dia del DougO said:

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I don't know if the team quit. It may be that ISU has just seen everything Baylor does, made adjustments, got matchups and figured it all out.

I don't think the players quit. They just don't quite have a plan that matches the talent they have and can't adjust like their opponents do. They showed a lot of scrap tonight, so I don't fault them for effort. They just still have a ways to go to play four quarters and beat a decent team.

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There was some statistic that said our schedule technically gets easier after this ISU game. Dave needs to win 4 games to get out of jail. I don't see that happening

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Our 3 conference games so far have been against 3 teams tied (with others) for first place in the conference. The combined record of those 3 teams is 14-1.

I don't know if TT can win at Arizona tonight...but if they do it will be another matchup for us against a team in first place. Winning on the road in Lubbock probably isn't happening.

That would make 4 straight losses. Will the team be able to stay together mentally?

After that it does get more doable. But if our defense can't get several things fixed I don't think it will matter.

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So you don't expect to beat what you call good teams?

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If you think I am fine with what we've seen this year you are misreading my post.

The post I was responding to mentioned that we would soon start facing less difficult opponents. That's what I was responding to.

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gotcha

SIC EM 94 said:

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Outscored 40-7 since we led 14-3…that is a team that has quit.

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There goes the we won the second half. Steele loved to say that to