This will set up quite the loyalty dilemma for some posters on this board. Judging by some of the posts here, a wholesale wardrobe change to purple may be taking place.

Early Friday morning news dump!

TCU has caught the wrath of the Veggie Tales

I shouldn't be this petty....but I've got to say I don't mind being on the other side of the fence seeing TCU taking a social media L for their brand

throwing his kids in there is almost legitimately unbelievable

— Alex Kirshner (@alex_kirshner) January 20, 2023

boognish_bear said:

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Looks like as TCU fans are starting to try and rationalize this move they are finding talking points from old BU forum posts

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This post gives me PTSD

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boognish_bear said:

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Looks like as TCU fans are starting to try and rationalize this move they are finding talking points from old BU forum posts

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This post gives me PTSD

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Yep....they are playing all the greatest hits. Are they just cut and pasting from BU boards of 6 years ago?

Should we be helpful and point out that Tennessee and A&M had similar, if not worse, sexual assault problems and it was swept under the rug including by ESPN? I think that's next on the dance card.

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Dia del DougO said:

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Always seemed weird to me, Kendall has worse creepy baggage than pops did, but he's still working and climbing the ladder.

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Kendal and Jeff Lebby come with all the same baggage and a fraction of the expertise. Those are two of the biggest frauds in college football. Both have gotten way more mileage than they should have out of their adjacency to Art. The only thing either has done exceptionally well is bounce around enough to keep everyone from realizing how mediocre they are.

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The leader of the Briles Hate Club chimes in. I think maybe you were molested by one of them.

You and Thee dude or dudette (who I have blocked as he literally provides nothing else but Briles hate).

GoodOleBaylorLine said:

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Should we be helpful and point out that Tennessee and A&M had similar, if not worse, sexual assault problems and it was swept under the rug including by ESPN? I think that's next on the dance card.

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We could turn this into a fun drinking game.

-when will BT make her appearance in their threads?

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bear2be2 said:

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Dia del DougO said:

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Always seemed weird to me, Kendall has worse creepy baggage than pops did, but he's still working and climbing the ladder.

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Kendal and Jeff Lebby come with all the same baggage and a fraction of the expertise. Those are two of the biggest frauds in college football. Both have gotten way more mileage than they should have out of their adjacency to Art. The only thing either has done exceptionally well is bounce around enough to keep everyone from realizing how mediocre they are.

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I think maybe you were molested by one of them.

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What is wrong with you

Excellent look for TCU and Kendal Briles to use his kids as a PR shield in the announcement and his updated Twitter profile pic 😂 pic.twitter.com/X2RbbiwsCx

— RedditCFB (@RedditCFB) January 20, 2023

Remember that time that UT hired Casey Horny off CAB's staff after the scandal hit....

Never ever forget what happened at Baylor. Never lose sight of what Kendall Briles knew. Shame on you, TCU. And the Baylor apologists can go to hell too.

— Longhorns B12C (@Longhorns_B12C) January 20, 2023

The internet is a crazy place. Sometimes I wish it wasn't there.

Gary Patterson's wife tweet after the announcement

pic.twitter.com/oPxmwPbuLZ

— K.Patterson (@kels_patterson) January 20, 2023

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JP1037 said:

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Dia del DougO said:

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Always seemed weird to me, Kendall has worse creepy baggage than pops did, but he's still working and climbing the ladder.

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Kendal and Jeff Lebby come with all the same baggage and a fraction of the expertise. Those are two of the biggest frauds in college football. Both have gotten way more mileage than they should have out of their adjacency to Art. The only thing either has done exceptionally well is bounce around enough to keep everyone from realizing how mediocre they are.

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I think maybe you were molested by one of them.

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What is wrong with you

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Challenging the Briles Derangement Syndrome. You?

JP1037 said:

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parch said:

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JP1037 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Dia del DougO said:

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Always seemed weird to me, Kendall has worse creepy baggage than pops did, but he's still working and climbing the ladder.

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Kendal and Jeff Lebby come with all the same baggage and a fraction of the expertise. Those are two of the biggest frauds in college football. Both have gotten way more mileage than they should have out of their adjacency to Art. The only thing either has done exceptionally well is bounce around enough to keep everyone from realizing how mediocre they are.

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I think maybe you were molested by one of them.

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What is wrong with you

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Challenging the Briles Derangement Syndrome. You?

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Oh you know, normal Friday, pretty busy not casually using child rape as an argumentative cudgel against strangers I disagree with on the internet.

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JP1037 said:

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parch said:

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JP1037 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Dia del DougO said:

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Always seemed weird to me, Kendall has worse creepy baggage than pops did, but he's still working and climbing the ladder.

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Kendal and Jeff Lebby come with all the same baggage and a fraction of the expertise. Those are two of the biggest frauds in college football. Both have gotten way more mileage than they should have out of their adjacency to Art. The only thing either has done exceptionally well is bounce around enough to keep everyone from realizing how mediocre they are.

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I think maybe you were molested by one of them.

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What is wrong with you

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Challenging the Briles Derangement Syndrome. You?

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Oh you know, normal Friday, pretty busy not casually using child rape as an argumentative cudgel against strangers I disagree with on the internet.

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Hold on hoss. Child rape? Molested (never said child) was the word I used. You took it a whole other direction What is wrong with you? Bear2Bear (who I assume is a grown man and outside of Briles Derangement seems reasonable) never wastes an opportunity to take a hateful swipe at any and every Briles discussion. He will insinuate the worst of all possible scenarios of misconduct straight from the BOR playbook. I find that odd and distasteful. Curiously so actually to where there is likely a story behind it. Thats the point. Sorry if I didn't put that in a form more to your liking. Bad joke maybe but Child Rape...good grief. Never even crossed my mind.

Let’s work! 🤝 https://t.co/UHA5588nBg

— Chandler Morris (@Chandleram4) January 20, 2023

It's part of the literal definition of the word. If this is what you're splitting hairs over, you need a long look in the mirror to reconsider a lot about your life.

If 100 D1 football programs had been presented with the identical fact situation Baylor faced in 2015-16, only one would have handled it as poorly as did Baylor. Was Art Briles absolutely free of blame? No. Did Art Briles run his program any differently than the vast majority of other D1 head football coaches during his tenure here? No.

The other 99 programs/administrations would have handled it as follows:

1. First, they would have had a functioning Title IX office handing out clear instructions. Baylor? No.
2. There would have been a clear chain of command for ALL departments within the university regarding matters like this, with training, instructions, guidelines, etc.
3. Would Art Briles have followed those instructions? Yes.
4. Even without the preceding three items, which would have kept the problems from existing, the other 99 programs would have managed to handle the problems in a way that would have allowed Briles to continue and not give Baylor such a black eye. If you believe problems such as the ones at Baylor didn't (and don't) exist on other campuses, then I suggest a simple Google search.

Baylor had a uniquely terrible method of handling problems. For decades, the solution was to try to sweep them under the table and act like Baylor students all spent Saturday night studying their Sunday School lesson. Then, when that bit them in the backside, they overreacted like fools.

All members of the Briles family are justified in being disgusted with Baylor.

You read these exchanges and tell me these are sent from a man who just wished there was a Title IX office to report to but, oh well, since there's not, guess we gotta work the Waco PD and squeeze victims to not say anything instead. Hands are tied!

Hell, his communication proves without reasonable doubt that Briles knew exactly the reporting structure he was supposed to use. He knew the referral was to judicial affairs, and he still actively hid offenses from them. It's immaterial what happens at other schools. This happened here and shouldn't be tolerated. Kendal fed recruits into this woodchipper with expectations of chasing "white women." You recruit guys with those enticements/expectations and they end up brutalizing women, hey guess what, not a surprise.

- On April 8, 2011, after a freshman defensive tackle was cited for illegal consumption of alcohol, Coach Briles sent a text message to an assistant coach:"Hopefully he's under radar enough they won't recognize name did he get ticket from Baylor police or Waco? … Just trying to keep him away from our judicial affairs folks...."

- On February 11, 2013, an assistant coach notified Coach Briles of a claim by a female student-athlete that a football player brandished a gun at her. Coach Briles responded: "what a fool she reporting to authorities" The assistant coach texted back: "She's acting traumatized … Trying to talk her calm now…Doesn't seem to want to report though." Coach Briles texted: "U gonna talk to [the player]." The assistant coach concluded: "Yes sir, just did. Caught him on the way to class… Squeezed him pretty good." The matter was never reported to Judicial Affairs.

- On September 13 2013, Shillinglaw sent a text to Coach Briles about a player who got a massage and "supposedly exposed himself and asked for favors. She [masseuse] has a lawyer but wants us to handle with discipline and counseling."Coach Briles' first response was "What kind of discipline… She a stripper?" When Shillinglaw said the player made the request at a salon and spa while getting a massage, Coach Briles wrote, "Not quite as bad."

- On September 20, 2013, after a player was arrested for assault and threatening to kill a non-athlete, a football operations staff official tried to talk the victim out of pressing criminal charges. Meanwhile, Coach Briles texted Athletics Director Ian McCaw: "Just talked to [the player] he said Waco PD was there - said they were going to keep it quiet Wasn't a set up deal... I'll get shill( Shillinglaw) to ck on Sibley (local attorney Jonathan Sibley)." Athletics Director Ian McCaw replied: "That would be great if they kept it quiet!"

- In October 2013, Shillinglaw and Briles discussed their efforts to intervene on behalf of a player who was suspended for repeated drug violations. "Bottom line, he has to meet with (Vice President for Student Life Kevin) Jackson tomorrow morning. If Jackson does not reinstate President will," Shillinglaw wrote.

- On May 14, 2014, after Coach Briles learned from an assistant coach that a player had been caught selling drugs, he texted: "I'm hoping it will take care of itself if not we can discuss best way to move on it." The offense was never reported to Judicial Affairs and Coach Briles arranged for the player to transfer to another school without informing them. The assistant coach texted: "Him just hanging around Waco scares me. [Another school] will take him."

- On August 15, 2015, after a player was arrested for possession of marijuana, Coach Briles texted an assistant coach: "**** how about that he's gonna b(sic) in the system now let me know what you think we should do… I can get shill (Shillinglaw) to call Sibley or we can.... Do we know who complained?" The assistant coach responded that the complainant was the superintendent at the player's apartment complex. Coach Briles replied: "We need to know who supervisor is and get him to alert us first."

I dont disagree. But I also am unconcerned about people heaping the crap heaped on us on TCU now and for TCU to be having PR problems now.

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parch said:

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parch said:

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Dia del DougO said:

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Always seemed weird to me, Kendall has worse creepy baggage than pops did, but he's still working and climbing the ladder.

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Kendal and Jeff Lebby come with all the same baggage and a fraction of the expertise. Those are two of the biggest frauds in college football. Both have gotten way more mileage than they should have out of their adjacency to Art. The only thing either has done exceptionally well is bounce around enough to keep everyone from realizing how mediocre they are.

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I think maybe you were molested by one of them.

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What is wrong with you

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Challenging the Briles Derangement Syndrome. You?

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Oh you know, normal Friday, pretty busy not casually using child rape as an argumentative cudgel against strangers I disagree with on the internet.

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Hold on hoss. Child rape? Molested (never said child) was the word I used. You took it a whole other direction What is wrong with you? Bear2Bear (who I assume is a grown man and outside of Briles Derangement seems reasonable) never wastes an opportunity to take a hateful swipe at any and every Briles discussion. He will insinuate the worst of all possible scenarios of misconduct straight from the BOR playbook. I find that odd and distasteful. Curiously so actually to where there is likely a story behind it. Thats the point. Sorry if I didn't put that in a form more to your liking. Bad joke maybe but Child Rape...good grief. Never even crossed my mind.

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I don't hate the Briles family. I just think Art, Kendal and Jeff Lebby are unscrupulous ****heels, who care more about winning football games than virtually anything else. There's a difference.

I'm content not to be reminded weekly of the damage Art's intentional lack of institutional discipline has caused our university and its national reputation. Unfortunately most others here aren't content to let that era go -- or even acknowledge the bad with the good.

Either way, I was never molested by the Briles-es or anyone else (Thank God). And your use of something so serious as an internet barb does little to change my opinion of Briles and his most ardent supporters.

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If 100 D1 football programs had been presented with the identical fact situation Baylor faced in 2015-16, only one would have handled it as poorly as did Baylor. Was Art Briles absolutely free of blame? No. Did Art Briles run his program any differently than the vast majority of other D1 head football coaches during his tenure here? No.

The other 99 programs/administrations would have handled it as follows:

1. First, they would have had a functioning Title IX office handing out clear instructions. Baylor? No.
2. There would have been a clear chain of command for ALL departments within the university regarding matters like this, with training, instructions, guidelines, etc.
3. Would Art Briles have followed those instructions? Yes.
4. Even without the preceding three items, which would have kept the problems from existing, the other 99 programs would have managed to handle the problems in a way that would have allowed Briles to continue and not give Baylor such a black eye. If you believe problems such as the ones at Baylor didn't (and don't) exist on other campuses, then I suggest a simple Google search.

Baylor had a uniquely terrible method of handling problems. For decades, the solution was to try to sweep them under the table and act like Baylor students all spent Saturday night studying their Sunday School lesson. Then, when that bit them in the backside, they overreacted like fools.

All members of the Briles family are justified in being disgusted with Baylor.

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That Baylor is the only program that would take an introspective look and make the necessary changes at all levels of leadership and policy is a feather in its cap, not a mark against it.

I'm proud that Baylor did the right and difficult thing. Our university leadership and athletic program culture is much better off for it.

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You read these exchanges and tell me these are sent from a man who just wished there was a Title IX office to report to but, oh well, since there's not, guess we gotta work the Waco PD and squeeze victims to not say anything instead. Hands are tied!

Hell, his communication proves without reasonable doubt that Briles knew exactly the reporting structure he was supposed to use. He knew the referral was to judicial affairs, and he still actively hid offenses from them. It's immaterial what happens at other schools. This happened here and shouldn't be tolerated. Kendal fed recruits into this woodchipper with expectations of chasing "white women." You recruit guys with those enticements/expectations and they end up brutalizing women, hey guess what, not a surprise.

- On April 8, 2011, after a freshman defensive tackle was cited for illegal consumption of alcohol, Coach Briles sent a text message to an assistant coach:"Hopefully he's under radar enough they won't recognize name did he get ticket from Baylor police or Waco? … Just trying to keep him away from our judicial affairs folks...."

- On February 11, 2013, an assistant coach notified Coach Briles of a claim by a female student-athlete that a football player brandished a gun at her. Coach Briles responded: "what a fool she reporting to authorities" The assistant coach texted back: "She's acting traumatized … Trying to talk her calm now…Doesn't seem to want to report though." Coach Briles texted: "U gonna talk to [the player]." The assistant coach concluded: "Yes sir, just did. Caught him on the way to class… Squeezed him pretty good." The matter was never reported to Judicial Affairs.

- On September 13 2013, Shillinglaw sent a text to Coach Briles about a player who got a massage and "supposedly exposed himself and asked for favors. She [masseuse] has a lawyer but wants us to handle with discipline and counseling."Coach Briles' first response was "What kind of discipline… She a stripper?" When Shillinglaw said the player made the request at a salon and spa while getting a massage, Coach Briles wrote, "Not quite as bad."

- On September 20, 2013, after a player was arrested for assault and threatening to kill a non-athlete, a football operations staff official tried to talk the victim out of pressing criminal charges. Meanwhile, Coach Briles texted Athletics Director Ian McCaw: "Just talked to [the player] he said Waco PD was there - said they were going to keep it quiet Wasn't a set up deal... I'll get shill( Shillinglaw) to ck on Sibley (local attorney Jonathan Sibley)." Athletics Director Ian McCaw replied: "That would be great if they kept it quiet!"

- In October 2013, Shillinglaw and Briles discussed their efforts to intervene on behalf of a player who was suspended for repeated drug violations. "Bottom line, he has to meet with (Vice President for Student Life Kevin) Jackson tomorrow morning. If Jackson does not reinstate President will," Shillinglaw wrote.

- On May 14, 2014, after Coach Briles learned from an assistant coach that a player had been caught selling drugs, he texted: "I'm hoping it will take care of itself if not we can discuss best way to move on it." The offense was never reported to Judicial Affairs and Coach Briles arranged for the player to transfer to another school without informing them. The assistant coach texted: "Him just hanging around Waco scares me. [Another school] will take him."

- On August 15, 2015, after a player was arrested for possession of marijuana, Coach Briles texted an assistant coach: "**** how about that he's gonna b(sic) in the system now let me know what you think we should do… I can get shill (Shillinglaw) to call Sibley or we can.... Do we know who complained?" The assistant coach responded that the complainant was the superintendent at the player's apartment complex. Coach Briles replied: "We need to know who supervisor is and get him to alert us first."

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I prefaced my comments with a clear statement that Briles was not without fault. I wonder what would be found if each of the other 99 head coaches I alluded to had their phone, text and email records carefully examined for the same period of time? I also believe that Briles would have adhered to the rules, had there been any laid out for him. I don't make Briles out to be an angel. But he is not the devil he has been convicted of being. Two wrongs don't make a right, but I will always believe that Briles acted no better and no worse than the vast majority of football coaches during that time, and would have done as instructed. There were no instructions given.

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parch said:

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You read these exchanges and tell me these are sent from a man who just wished there was a Title IX office to report to but, oh well, since there's not, guess we gotta work the Waco PD and squeeze victims to not say anything instead. Hands are tied!

Hell, his communication proves without reasonable doubt that Briles knew exactly the reporting structure he was supposed to use. He knew the referral was to judicial affairs, and he still actively hid offenses from them. It's immaterial what happens at other schools. This happened here and shouldn't be tolerated. Kendal fed recruits into this woodchipper with expectations of chasing "white women." You recruit guys with those enticements/expectations and they end up brutalizing women, hey guess what, not a surprise.

- On April 8, 2011, after a freshman defensive tackle was cited for illegal consumption of alcohol, Coach Briles sent a text message to an assistant coach:"Hopefully he's under radar enough they won't recognize name did he get ticket from Baylor police or Waco? … Just trying to keep him away from our judicial affairs folks...."

- On February 11, 2013, an assistant coach notified Coach Briles of a claim by a female student-athlete that a football player brandished a gun at her. Coach Briles responded: "what a fool she reporting to authorities" The assistant coach texted back: "She's acting traumatized … Trying to talk her calm now…Doesn't seem to want to report though." Coach Briles texted: "U gonna talk to [the player]." The assistant coach concluded: "Yes sir, just did. Caught him on the way to class… Squeezed him pretty good." The matter was never reported to Judicial Affairs.

- On September 13 2013, Shillinglaw sent a text to Coach Briles about a player who got a massage and "supposedly exposed himself and asked for favors. She [masseuse] has a lawyer but wants us to handle with discipline and counseling."Coach Briles' first response was "What kind of discipline… She a stripper?" When Shillinglaw said the player made the request at a salon and spa while getting a massage, Coach Briles wrote, "Not quite as bad."

- On September 20, 2013, after a player was arrested for assault and threatening to kill a non-athlete, a football operations staff official tried to talk the victim out of pressing criminal charges. Meanwhile, Coach Briles texted Athletics Director Ian McCaw: "Just talked to [the player] he said Waco PD was there - said they were going to keep it quiet Wasn't a set up deal... I'll get shill( Shillinglaw) to ck on Sibley (local attorney Jonathan Sibley)." Athletics Director Ian McCaw replied: "That would be great if they kept it quiet!"

- In October 2013, Shillinglaw and Briles discussed their efforts to intervene on behalf of a player who was suspended for repeated drug violations. "Bottom line, he has to meet with (Vice President for Student Life Kevin) Jackson tomorrow morning. If Jackson does not reinstate President will," Shillinglaw wrote.

- On May 14, 2014, after Coach Briles learned from an assistant coach that a player had been caught selling drugs, he texted: "I'm hoping it will take care of itself if not we can discuss best way to move on it." The offense was never reported to Judicial Affairs and Coach Briles arranged for the player to transfer to another school without informing them. The assistant coach texted: "Him just hanging around Waco scares me. [Another school] will take him."

- On August 15, 2015, after a player was arrested for possession of marijuana, Coach Briles texted an assistant coach: "**** how about that he's gonna b(sic) in the system now let me know what you think we should do… I can get shill (Shillinglaw) to call Sibley or we can.... Do we know who complained?" The assistant coach responded that the complainant was the superintendent at the player's apartment complex. Coach Briles replied: "We need to know who supervisor is and get him to alert us first."

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I prefaced my comments with a clear statement that Briles was not without fault. I wonder what would be found if each of the other 99 head coaches I alluded to had their phone, text and email records carefully examined for the same period of time? I also believe that Briles would have adhered to the rules, had there been any laid out for him. I don't make Briles out to be an angel. But he is not the devil he has been convicted of being. Two wrongs don't make a right, but I will always believe that Briles acted no better and no worse than the vast majority of football coaches during that time, and would have done as instructed. There were no instructions given.

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Why does that matter? Baylor is only responsible for itself. How anyone can read exchanges like those above or hear stories about Johnny Jefferson playing bowl games while going through heroin withdrawals and not see that our program had utterly lost its way under that staff is beyond me.

If we're going to say we stand for certain things as a university, we have to make decisions that match that vision.

There's just zero basis to the argument that he wouldn't have done these things had there been a Title IX reporting structure and that this is somehow entirely Baylor's fault. I know where that conspiracy comes from and it's apologetic garbage.

There's no factual grounding for it, given he had a very simple judicial affairs reporting structure that he knew well (down to what acts would trigger his reaching out!), actively contravened it, then pleaded ignorance in interviews while throwing Baylor under the bus by claiming the lack of a Title IX office meant he had nowhere to go. The minute I heard that lie on national television, I was completely done with the guy if I wasn't already. Just a boldfaced, outright lie that his own text messages prove. Total low-character, bush league move.

Briles hung his own self, and frankly I don't care, at all, what other coaches at other programs do or what other programs do or don't permit behind closed doors. Kendal is an unapologetic extension of that legacy, and while TCU is perfectly free to hire him, relieving him, and his dad, from the consequences of their own actions isn't something any of us should do.

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throwing his kids in there is almost legitimately unbelievable

— Alex Kirshner (@alex_kirshner) January 20, 2023

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Dumbest hand sign in the history of sports hand signs. No horned frog ever had horns that grow that way unless it was a mutant freak...oh, well..never mind..

pic.twitter.com/HEZKWDLUBz

— RedditCFB (@RedditCFB) January 20, 2023

Dia del DougO said:

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throwing his kids in there is almost legitimately unbelievable

— Alex Kirshner (@alex_kirshner) January 20, 2023

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Dumbest hand sign in the history of sports hand signs. No horned frog ever had horns that grow that way unless it was a mutant freak...oh, well..never mind..

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The sign was evidentally created by a TCU yell leader from Waco in the late 70s. Up to that point TCU was the only SWC conf school to not have any hand sign tradition. This as per a Waco news article that came about about the time off of the title game.

Art ran a fast and loose program and the university put up zero guard rails. Both sides share blame. The university and board hung the entire thing around his neck while trying to save face. When all this blew up, a still employed today, university official told a buddy of mine something along the lines of "something like this could never happen here because we're a Baptist university."

Go through the phone of any P5 coach and you'll find some bad **** on it like Art. Difference is they learned how to keep it truly in house with proper reporting. I have first hand knowledge of a prominent SEC coach around 2008 drunkenly crashing his car into a house. Never made the news. We all know what happened when Houston Nutt sued Ole Miss and Hugh Freeze. Is anyone seriously going to try and convince someone that Urban Meyer's program was clean at Florida or Ohio St? He employed a wife beater, coached a murderer, all while hiding himself behind Tim Tebow and his "forgetfulness".

2016 left me pissed at the coaches, the athletic department, the administration, and the board. Everyone in those positions added to the dark days back then. It was a real team effort to be in a cluster**** of that size.

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Excellent look for TCU and Kendal Briles to use his kids as a PR shield in the announcement and his updated Twitter profile pic 😂 pic.twitter.com/X2RbbiwsCx

— RedditCFB (@RedditCFB) January 20, 2023

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Hahaha. Here's an example Of tcu trying too hard

Now everyone just mocking their fumbled attempt to
"Humanize" a Briles

It is fun to imagine the madness going on had baylor hired Briles. But that would somehow be different

Art still deserves a job although he's backdoor coaching tcu now and getting rich(er) off his progeny

Good on him. Tcu a laughing stock but happy for Kendal

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You read these exchanges and tell me these are sent from a man who just wished there was a Title IX office to report to but, oh well, since there's not, guess we gotta work the Waco PD and squeeze victims to not say anything instead. Hands are tied!

Hell, his communication proves without reasonable doubt that Briles knew exactly the reporting structure he was supposed to use. He knew the referral was to judicial affairs, and he still actively hid offenses from them. It's immaterial what happens at other schools. This happened here and shouldn't be tolerated. Kendal fed recruits into this woodchipper with expectations of chasing "white women." You recruit guys with those enticements/expectations and they end up brutalizing women, hey guess what, not a surprise.

- On April 8, 2011, after a freshman defensive tackle was cited for illegal consumption of alcohol, Coach Briles sent a text message to an assistant coach:"Hopefully he's under radar enough they won't recognize name did he get ticket from Baylor police or Waco? … Just trying to keep him away from our judicial affairs folks...."

- On February 11, 2013, an assistant coach notified Coach Briles of a claim by a female student-athlete that a football player brandished a gun at her. Coach Briles responded: "what a fool she reporting to authorities" The assistant coach texted back: "She's acting traumatized … Trying to talk her calm now…Doesn't seem to want to report though." Coach Briles texted: "U gonna talk to [the player]." The assistant coach concluded: "Yes sir, just did. Caught him on the way to class… Squeezed him pretty good." The matter was never reported to Judicial Affairs.

- On September 13 2013, Shillinglaw sent a text to Coach Briles about a player who got a massage and "supposedly exposed himself and asked for favors. She [masseuse] has a lawyer but wants us to handle with discipline and counseling."Coach Briles' first response was "What kind of discipline… She a stripper?" When Shillinglaw said the player made the request at a salon and spa while getting a massage, Coach Briles wrote, "Not quite as bad."

- On September 20, 2013, after a player was arrested for assault and threatening to kill a non-athlete, a football operations staff official tried to talk the victim out of pressing criminal charges. Meanwhile, Coach Briles texted Athletics Director Ian McCaw: "Just talked to [the player] he said Waco PD was there - said they were going to keep it quiet Wasn't a set up deal... I'll get shill( Shillinglaw) to ck on Sibley (local attorney Jonathan Sibley)." Athletics Director Ian McCaw replied: "That would be great if they kept it quiet!"

- In October 2013, Shillinglaw and Briles discussed their efforts to intervene on behalf of a player who was suspended for repeated drug violations. "Bottom line, he has to meet with (Vice President for Student Life Kevin) Jackson tomorrow morning. If Jackson does not reinstate President will," Shillinglaw wrote.

- On May 14, 2014, after Coach Briles learned from an assistant coach that a player had been caught selling drugs, he texted: "I'm hoping it will take care of itself if not we can discuss best way to move on it." The offense was never reported to Judicial Affairs and Coach Briles arranged for the player to transfer to another school without informing them. The assistant coach texted: "Him just hanging around Waco scares me. [Another school] will take him."

- On August 15, 2015, after a player was arrested for possession of marijuana, Coach Briles texted an assistant coach: "**** how about that he's gonna b(sic) in the system now let me know what you think we should do… I can get shill (Shillinglaw) to call Sibley or we can.... Do we know who complained?" The assistant coach responded that the complainant was the superintendent at the player's apartment complex. Coach Briles replied: "We need to know who supervisor is and get him to alert us first."

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I prefaced my comments with a clear statement that Briles was not without fault. I wonder what would be found if each of the other 99 head coaches I alluded to had their phone, text and email records carefully examined for the same period of time? I also believe that Briles would have adhered to the rules, had there been any laid out for him. I don't make Briles out to be an angel. But he is not the devil he has been convicted of being. Two wrongs don't make a right, but I will always believe that Briles acted no better and no worse than the vast majority of football coaches during that time, and would have done as instructed. There were no instructions given.

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And imagine if you could pick and cut and paste the texts from the other 99 to make them say whatever you wanted

We've got a "holier than thou" crowd that wants to make me puke. Not very many, but enough to throw in some slander every couple of posts. I'm glad I don't know you or anyone like you.