Bearish said:
If we don't fumble inside our own 30, they don't kick a field goal. If we don't fumble in the red zone, we potentially score a TD. There's your game, fellas. Blame coaches all you want, but players can lose you games, too.
PartyBear said:
Rhule pledged "at least 6 wins" even 3 weeks ago. He will not deliver and hence whatever other things he says about his process are also lacking credibility. Rhule is shot here.
Bearish said:PartyBear said:
Rhule pledged "at least 6 wins" even 3 weeks ago. He will not deliver and hence whatever other things he says about his process are also lacking credibility. Rhule is shot here.
We're 5-6 with a shot at a bowl. You can count on one hand the number of plays that makes this team 7-4 right now.
His process is working just fine. You just don't like being in the middle of it.
Bearish said:PartyBear said:
Rhule pledged "at least 6 wins" even 3 weeks ago. He will not deliver and hence whatever other things he says about his process are also lacking credibility. Rhule is shot here.
We're 5-6 with a shot at a bowl. You can count on one hand the number of plays that makes this team 7-4 right now.
His process is working just fine. You just don't like being in the middle of it.
Bearish said:
If we don't fumble inside our own 30, they don't kick a field goal. If we don't fumble in the red zone, we potentially score a TD. There's your game, fellas. Blame coaches all you want, but players can lose you games, too.
PartyBear said:
Thank you coach. Perhaps you should be on our staff or an advisor to Rhoades if he has to intervene and do this for Rhule.
I'm concerned we can be on the verge of falling into that hole we fell into in the late 90s where we couldn't recruit because we couldn't win and couldn't win because we couldn't recruit. I feel as if we can't afford Rhule much longer if this is how the Rhule era is and it seems where we are is about the epitome of what the Rhule era is and is going to be. We are going into year 3 now and it just isn't good.
Incidentally I looked at Hue Jackson's history. Interestingly enough he was the QB for Bob Cope at Pacific. Cope, now deceased unfortunately, was Reedy's DC his first 3 seasons here.
Krieg said:CoachHBU2008 said:.lakersfan34 said:I am inclined to believe that Rhule does more of the play calling than people realize. May explain why the initial OC may have left only weeks into his time here.PartyBear said:
Do you have a recommendation for a new OC. The bad part of this is that it may be Rhule micromanaging and overruling Nixon. So the problem may be Rhule not just in general over the state of our program but regarding the play calling specifically.
Well if so that is atrocious. He should be allowing men who are paid to do a job to do it. And Nixon should threaten to leave if Rhule continues to interfere. This is incompetence at its worse if true.
Do you think the OC would be the guy deciding to run a true freshman QB with one snap to his name onto the field in the middle of the drive and waste 2nd down? The OC's job is to run a good offense and nobody in the history of football other than whoever keeps doing that for us thinks that's a good idea. I can't imagine 2 people think it's smart, and if Rhule wasn't the one that did it wouldn't have happened more than once...
oldbear69 said:I'm driving thru northern n Mexico and stopped in at my fav bar in eagle nest nm and I'm on my 4th crown and water.. and ur right....1-11 and 5-7 with no hope for the future .,.. I feel like George Bailey....where's the bridge,....BoonDockSaint said:
I OP....
Please no more posting from you until later when u are thoroughly drunk.
Thx in advance
Bearish said:PartyBear said:
Rhule pledged "at least 6 wins" even 3 weeks ago. He will not deliver and hence whatever other things he says about his process are also lacking credibility. Rhule is shot here.
We're 5-6 with a shot at a bowl. You can count on one hand the number of plays that makes this team 7-4 right now.
His process is working just fine. You just don't like being in the middle of it.
8-3... there are 3 games where we just missed it(i giess 2 if you dont count ISU)Bearish said:PartyBear said:
Rhule pledged "at least 6 wins" even 3 weeks ago. He will not deliver and hence whatever other things he says about his process are also lacking credibility. Rhule is shot here.
We're 5-6 with a shot at a bowl. You can count on one hand the number of plays that makes this team 7-4 right now.
His process is working just fine. You just don't like being in the middle of it.
PartyBear said:
If the 1-11 occurred under a different staff, this may be a valid point, Keysor. Last season should have been about like this one actually.
Coach who posts here should be working for our program in some capacity.
That was not the question. The question was hope for the future.PartyBear said:
No you are actually by saying all a coach has to do is have a horrid winless or 1 win season and you can perpetually argue he has improved since his first year.
And maybe you should make like your name and become a stranger.Stranger said:Bearish said:PartyBear said:
Rhule pledged "at least 6 wins" even 3 weeks ago. He will not deliver and hence whatever other things he says about his process are also lacking credibility. Rhule is shot here.
We're 5-6 with a shot at a bowl. You can count on one hand the number of plays that makes this team 7-4 right now.
His process is working just fine. You just don't like being in the middle of it.
Maybe you should change your name to Rhule-ish
PartyBear said:
It will only be marginally better next season if it is any better. Marginally better than what we are now in year 3 doesn't cut it. He'll need to be fired a year from now.
WowPartyBear said:
If the 1-11 occurred under a different staff, this may be a valid point, Keysor. Last season should have been about like this one actually.
Coach who posts here should be working for our program in some capacity.
Bearish said:PartyBear said:
Rhule pledged "at least 6 wins" even 3 weeks ago. He will not deliver and hence whatever other things he says about his process are also lacking credibility. Rhule is shot here.
We're 5-6 with a shot at a bowl. You can count on one hand the number of plays that makes this team 7-4 right now.
His process is working just fine. You just don't like being in the middle of it.
Krieg said:Bearish said:PartyBear said:
Rhule pledged "at least 6 wins" even 3 weeks ago. He will not deliver and hence whatever other things he says about his process are also lacking credibility. Rhule is shot here.
We're 5-6 with a shot at a bowl. You can count on one hand the number of plays that makes this team 7-4 right now.
His process is working just fine. You just don't like being in the middle of it.
This is such a stupid argument. It was used last year and it's being used again this year.
Good coaches don't want to be within a score in the 4th with a chance to win. Good coaches want to be ahead in the 1st quarter and build an insurmountable lead ASAP. There's your core difference between Rhule and competent coaches. He's excited that we could've won had everything gone just right. We'll never have a game where everything goes right, and in fact yesterday we had a TON of things go our way and still lost:
- 40 TCU players out, supposedly
- Played against their 3rd string QB that had zero experience and hadn't practiced thinking he'd play, and he had to play basically the entire game
- TCU was missing their best player because he's a criminal (allegedly)
Yet we still found a way to lose.
Stan Mikita said:
I like that Coach Matt Rhule has displayed constant kindness to opposing coaches.
oldbear69 said:
Just do it.... are we really afraid a new guy might go 0-12 or 4-8 ? Jersey don't fit ...we must acquit..... now...
Bearish said:Krieg said:Bearish said:PartyBear said:
Rhule pledged "at least 6 wins" even 3 weeks ago. He will not deliver and hence whatever other things he says about his process are also lacking credibility. Rhule is shot here.
We're 5-6 with a shot at a bowl. You can count on one hand the number of plays that makes this team 7-4 right now.
His process is working just fine. You just don't like being in the middle of it.
This is such a stupid argument. It was used last year and it's being used again this year.
Good coaches don't want to be within a score in the 4th with a chance to win. Good coaches want to be ahead in the 1st quarter and build an insurmountable lead ASAP. There's your core difference between Rhule and competent coaches. He's excited that we could've won had everything gone just right. We'll never have a game where everything goes right, and in fact yesterday we had a TON of things go our way and still lost:
- 40 TCU players out, supposedly
- Played against their 3rd string QB that had zero experience and hadn't practiced thinking he'd play, and he had to play basically the entire game
- TCU was missing their best player because he's a criminal (allegedly)
Yet we still found a way to lose.
I'm only arguing that we are improving. Perhaps at a slower pace than we'd all like, but most of us (myself included) were in denial about just how big of a rebuild this job was.
You can be disappointed in a loss, but there is nothing warranting firing this guy. Absolutely nothing. In fact, I challenge you to find one person outside of the CAB-loving Baylor bubble that agrees CMR is underperforming and should be fired. Any article, sound bite or video will do.
BigOleBear said:
No evidence thus far he's the guy. Took over a 6-6 team in '17 which still had a number of CAB recruits. Didn't play them or Zack Smith early enough, otherwise the Liberty and UTSA losses were avoidable. Finally put CAB players in as season unfolded and we pushed WVU and OU around pretty well. Most any smart coach would be licking their chops coming into Waco with a fair number of top recruits remaining and three pre season gimme games on the scheduled.
So, Is he a stubborn Northeasterner that thinks he knows football better than anyone, or was BU just sold bill of goods? I had some hope but as the games pass by I see a guy that isnt ready for P5 football. TU tried it with Charlie Strong and failed miserably. Verdict still out on Herman coming from UH. Rhule came out of the same Level 2 college football world.
Bearish said:Krieg said:Bearish said:PartyBear said:
Rhule pledged "at least 6 wins" even 3 weeks ago. He will not deliver and hence whatever other things he says about his process are also lacking credibility. Rhule is shot here.
We're 5-6 with a shot at a bowl. You can count on one hand the number of plays that makes this team 7-4 right now.
His process is working just fine. You just don't like being in the middle of it.
This is such a stupid argument. It was used last year and it's being used again this year.
Good coaches don't want to be within a score in the 4th with a chance to win. Good coaches want to be ahead in the 1st quarter and build an insurmountable lead ASAP. There's your core difference between Rhule and competent coaches. He's excited that we could've won had everything gone just right. We'll never have a game where everything goes right, and in fact yesterday we had a TON of things go our way and still lost:
- 40 TCU players out, supposedly
- Played against their 3rd string QB that had zero experience and hadn't practiced thinking he'd play, and he had to play basically the entire game
- TCU was missing their best player because he's a criminal (allegedly)
Yet we still found a way to lose.
I'm only arguing that we are improving. Perhaps at a slower pace than we'd all like, but most of us (myself included) were in denial about just how big of a rebuild this job was.
You can be disappointed in a loss, but there is nothing warranting firing this guy. Absolutely nothing. In fact, I challenge you to find one person outside of the CAB-loving Baylor bubble that agrees CMR is underperforming and should be fired. Any article, sound bite or video will do.
Krieg said:Bearish said:Krieg said:Bearish said:PartyBear said:
Rhule pledged "at least 6 wins" even 3 weeks ago. He will not deliver and hence whatever other things he says about his process are also lacking credibility. Rhule is shot here.
We're 5-6 with a shot at a bowl. You can count on one hand the number of plays that makes this team 7-4 right now.
His process is working just fine. You just don't like being in the middle of it.
This is such a stupid argument. It was used last year and it's being used again this year.
Good coaches don't want to be within a score in the 4th with a chance to win. Good coaches want to be ahead in the 1st quarter and build an insurmountable lead ASAP. There's your core difference between Rhule and competent coaches. He's excited that we could've won had everything gone just right. We'll never have a game where everything goes right, and in fact yesterday we had a TON of things go our way and still lost:
- 40 TCU players out, supposedly
- Played against their 3rd string QB that had zero experience and hadn't practiced thinking he'd play, and he had to play basically the entire game
- TCU was missing their best player because he's a criminal (allegedly)
Yet we still found a way to lose.
I'm only arguing that we are improving. Perhaps at a slower pace than we'd all like, but most of us (myself included) were in denial about just how big of a rebuild this job was.
You can be disappointed in a loss, but there is nothing warranting firing this guy. Absolutely nothing. In fact, I challenge you to find one person outside of the CAB-loving Baylor bubble that agrees CMR is underperforming and should be fired. Any article, sound bite or video will do.
For someone that already hired him, though, you're right. We don't have a great reason to fire him.
For someone that thought this was a dumb hire the day it was made (me, for instance) I see a TON of reasons he shouldn't have been hired in the first place.
Maybe that's where we differ. Rhoads should be fired for hiring someone that wanted to nuke everything our team and on-field reputation was built on after lying about doing the opposite, though. He's the reason we hired a guy that keeps trying to cram square pegs in round holes.
