Chuckroast said:
TheDom said:
BarleyMcDougal said:
xiledinok said:
BarleyMcDougal said:
xiledinok said:
BarleyMcDougal said:
xiledinok said:
Baylor is not a target.
Art Briles was a moron post firing and upset the entire college football business world and is too dumb to figure out that after taking the money it was time to go away for a minute.
This ain't TAPPS, no one cares if you worship Satan or St. Peter, it's about making all the parties money. Notre Dame seemed to figure it out decades ago. Art and Ian were two lower level college football business minds. Those two were arrogant enough to believe their schedule was a good idea.
Look at them, Liberty and the Pizza League.
Absolutely incorrect.
Christianity is a giant target today. And Baylor is as well. That's an incontrovertible fact. You need to wise up to who operates the sports industry.
It's a fantasy when it comes to college football. Unless you are sheltered, no one sits around and discusses screwing Baylor because they are Christian.
Look who sponsors college football. You really believe the Chicken chain that is closed on Sundays hates Christians?
The only two comparable institutions to Baylor are BYU and Notre Dame. Both are independent schools. They also have natural protections from the sporting world since they are insulated in certain manners. These two schools make a boatload of money and have religious connections that vastly outweigh Baylor's ties to Baptist theology.
That said, both are still routinely attacked by outside forces, but they carry on without the routine and petty infighting of Baylor because Mormons and Catholics are good at constricting information and controlling narratives. Simply put, they lock it down. Baylor needs to figure it out.
And yes, money is the driving factor, but there are other forces at play.
Do you all sit around and discuss such nonsense at your tailgate?
No one cares in college sports whether or not a school is religious or not. They only care about making money.
Our brand's biggest issue was the fact we created zero bowl money for 15 years and didn't bother to realize it when we won conference, we became the flagship and carried the conference banner.
Our bowl profits mean nothing. Scheduling means nothing. Do you sit around at home and discuss this with yourself?
"Stealing" what traditional powers consider as their own and disrupting those money trains is far more important. UT and OU are Pharma. They're Walmart. They're Google. You wanna disrupt the money from them, you gotta pay a price.
You are off target on this one. It wasn't the fact we won conference over OU & UT it was our athletic department acted like jackwagons while doing it. We acted like a bunch of new money lottery winners. CABers want to tell the "it's bc we disrupted the applecart" narrative because LIKE ALWAYS it deflects the blame off him, Ian, Starr.
The truth is we sucked as a "business partner" with Starr, Ian, Briles leading the ship. Like X said, you can't not add to the pot for 15 years then win conference and stand on a stage and attempt to embarrass the commissioner and conference. Bad for business.
And if you think not making bowls and not scheduling games that reflect well for the conference matter then you really are lost and don't understand how this D1 P5 deal works.
But the bullseye on Baylor's back goes way beyond the Big 12 and whatever bridges we may have burned with our member institutions.
The news media, largely a reflection of our culture, loves to run stories dealing with potential hypocrisy within Christian institutions.
They were all over the Dave Bliss scandal and still talk about it today. In light of our newfound status as big kid on the block in football, They wholeheartedly swallowed the narrative that Christian institution, Baylor U, was willing to tolerate any degree of misconduct to win with the implication being we were only good because we were willing to stoop to low levels.
Baylor never played individuals under investigation while Florida State rides its star QB to a national championship. Ever wonder why Florida St largely got a pass not only for its player's alleged conduct, but more importantly, for playing him while the incident was under investigation.
I don't doubt that money/jealousy may play a part, but hypocrisy within a Christian university that is suddenly good in football sells because our culture likes to see Christians brought down a peg or two.
I agree that factions within our society are moving away from Christian values as a whole. And I agree certain factions within that enjoy seeing Christian institutions and people associated with Christian values "knocked down a peg or two." I hear what you saying there.
However, I disagree that is the overwhelming issue with our scandal. We can navagate that stuff relatively easy. There was more hate bc we didn't handle ourselves well and acted like "new money" with our new winning ways. When I talk to people in Big Ten country or ACC country they love to tease about our 2 BCS bowl game losses, not anything to do with us being Christian based University, but bc they looked as us as arrogant donkeys and frauds on the field. People inside Baylor are more concerned about the religious affiliation of Baylor than outside. I talk to some people that don't even realize we are religious affiliated school, they think medical field when "Baylor" name mentioned. Friends of mine moved from South Carolina had no clue either. Another friend from Cali knew it was religious but not particularly Baptist.
The religious affiliation is not a huge thing to the outside world especially to college football. Externally, it is about making money and being a good business partner. Internally, it is about having our ducks in a row and being ready for when the heat comes because we are winning.That is where I do blame the BOR. They didn't prepare us to be a big time winning D1 P5 program. They turned the power over to Starr, Briles, Ian and let them run amok. It is the BOR job to pay attention to the road up ahead. Starr, Ian, Briles were too selfish and too arrogant to understand the road up ahead.