Guys who can win consistently at high schools that haven't historically won just know how to win, because they have to play the hands that they are dealt.JonSnow said:
Amazing how consistent CAB is. Wherever he goes, he is a winner.
Mt Vernon is 7-1
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Everywhere except Georgetown.JonSnow said:
Amazing how consistent CAB is. Wherever he goes, he is a winner.
4-15-1
"The education of a man is never completed until he dies." - General Robert E. Lee
Thee is the new MilliVanilli
He can probably tell you what Art had for breakfast this morning, or at least what he thinks Art should have had for breakfast.Timbear said:
Thee is the new MilliVanilli
Google is your friend.
Try it before you post erroneous information.
There is nothing more I abhor than posters who don't do their research and particularly when they are still trying to prop up a full fledged disaster.
Try it before you post erroneous information.
There is nothing more I abhor than posters who don't do their research and particularly when they are still trying to prop up a full fledged disaster.
"The education of a man is never completed until he dies." - General Robert E. Lee
I understand. I really do. Don't worry about it.
no tub pics pleaseTimbear said:
Thee is the new MilliVanilli
PLEASE!!!
Yeah. Even a non descript team in Italy. I wonder if Nacho is still over there?
Timbear said:
Thee is the new MilliVanilli
Not a chance.
He was still developing his offense at Georgetown and didnt have much talent beyond one receiver. I only coached against him once but we won in a close game.
CAB has a knack for finding ways to win. His offense was more of a system and not memorized plays. I would trade away all the playbooks, special teams coaches and brick wall defenses for his offense.
CAB has a knack for finding ways to win. His offense was more of a system and not memorized plays. I would trade away all the playbooks, special teams coaches and brick wall defenses for his offense.
I have found theres only two ways to go:
Living fast or dying slow.
I dont want to live forever.
But I will live while I'm here.
Living fast or dying slow.
I dont want to live forever.
But I will live while I'm here.
I say we trade away the BOR for CAB to return to BU.
“Life is short, eat desert first!”
You can't keep a good man down.
“It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.” ~ Upton Sinclair
However, you can ruin his reputation to CYATexasScientist said:
You can't keep a good man down.
1,616 days and still flogging away.
"The education of a man is never completed until he dies." - General Robert E. Lee
Yes.Osodecentx said:However, you can ruin his reputation to CYATexasScientist said:
You can't keep a good man down.
“It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.” ~ Upton Sinclair
On April 8, 2011, after a freshman defensive tackle was cited for illegalOsodecentx said:However, you can ruin his reputation to CYATexasScientist said:
You can't keep a good man down.
consumption of alcohol, Coach Briles sent a text message to an assistant coach:
"Hopefully he's under radar enough they won't recognize name did he get
ticket from Baylor police or Waco? ... Just trying to keep him away from our
judicial affairs folks...."
14
On February 11, 2013, an assistant coach notified Coach Briles of a claim by a
female student-athlete that a football player brandished a gun at her. Coach
Briles responded: "what a fool she reporting to authorities" The assistant
coach texted back: "She's acting traumatized ... Trying to talk her calm now...
Doesn't seem to want to report though." Coach Briles texted: "U gonna talk to
[the player]." The assistant coach concluded: "Yes sir, just did. Caught him on
the way to class... Squeezed him pretty good." The matter was never reported
to Judicial Affairs.
On September 13 2013, Shillinglaw sent a text to Coach Briles about a player
who got a massage and "supposedly exposed himself and asked for favors. She
[masseuse] has a lawyer but wants us to handle with discipline and counseling."
Coach Briles' first response was "What kind of discipline... She a stripper?"
When Shillinglaw said the player made the request at a salon and spa while
getting a massage, Coach Briles wrote, "Not quite as bad."
On September 20, 2013, after a player was arrested for assault and threatening
to kill a non-athlete, a football operations staff official tried to talk the victim
out of pressing criminal charges. Meanwhile, Coach Briles texted Athletics
Director Ian McCaw: "Just talked to [the player] he said Waco PD was there
said they were going to keep it quiet Wasn't a set up deal... I'll get shill
(Shillinglaw) to ck on Sibley (local attorney Jonathan Sibley)." Athletics
Director Ian McCaw replied: "That would be great if they kept it quiet!"
In October 2013, Shillinglaw and Briles discussed their efforts to intervene on
behalf of a player who was suspended for repeated drug violations. "Bottom
line, he has to meet with (Vice President for Student Life Kevin) Jackson
tomorrow morning. If Jackson does not reinstate President will," Shillinglaw
wrote.
On May 14, 2014, after Coach Briles learned from an assistant coach that a
player had been caught selling drugs, he texted: "I'm hoping it will take care of
itself if not we can discuss best way to move on it." The offense was never
reported to Judicial Affairs and Coach Briles arranged for the player to transfer
to another school. The assistant coach texted: "Him just hanging around Waco
scares me. [Another school] will take him. Knows baggage."
On August 15, 2015, after a player was arrested for possession of marijuana,
Coach Briles texted an assistant coach: "**** how about that he's gonna b
(sic) in the system now let me know what you think we should do... I can get
shill (Shillinglaw) to call Sibley or we can.... Do we know who complained?"
The assistant coach responded that the complainant was the superintendent at
the player's apartment complex. Coach Briles replied: "We need to know who
supervisor is and get him to alert us first."
Is this like a regent selling porn or writing the PH report or not complying with court orders to produce internal documents?Keyser Soze said:On April 8, 2011, after a freshman defensive tackle was cited for illegalOsodecentx said:However, you can ruin his reputation to CYATexasScientist said:
You can't keep a good man down.
consumption of alcohol, Coach Briles sent a text message to an assistant coach:
"Hopefully he's under radar enough they won't recognize name did he get
ticket from Baylor police or Waco? ... Just trying to keep him away from our
judicial affairs folks...."
14
On February 11, 2013, an assistant coach notified Coach Briles of a claim by a
female student-athlete that a football player brandished a gun at her. Coach
Briles responded: "what a fool she reporting to authorities" The assistant
coach texted back: "She's acting traumatized ... Trying to talk her calm now...
Doesn't seem to want to report though." Coach Briles texted: "U gonna talk to
[the player]." The assistant coach concluded: "Yes sir, just did. Caught him on
the way to class... Squeezed him pretty good." The matter was never reported
to Judicial Affairs.
On September 13 2013, Shillinglaw sent a text to Coach Briles about a player
who got a massage and "supposedly exposed himself and asked for favors. She
[masseuse] has a lawyer but wants us to handle with discipline and counseling."
Coach Briles' first response was "What kind of discipline... She a stripper?"
When Shillinglaw said the player made the request at a salon and spa while
getting a massage, Coach Briles wrote, "Not quite as bad."
On September 20, 2013, after a player was arrested for assault and threatening
to kill a non-athlete, a football operations staff official tried to talk the victim
out of pressing criminal charges. Meanwhile, Coach Briles texted Athletics
Director Ian McCaw: "Just talked to [the player] he said Waco PD was there
said they were going to keep it quiet Wasn't a set up deal... I'll get shill
(Shillinglaw) to ck on Sibley (local attorney Jonathan Sibley)." Athletics
Director Ian McCaw replied: "That would be great if they kept it quiet!"
In October 2013, Shillinglaw and Briles discussed their efforts to intervene on
behalf of a player who was suspended for repeated drug violations. "Bottom
line, he has to meet with (Vice President for Student Life Kevin) Jackson
tomorrow morning. If Jackson does not reinstate President will," Shillinglaw
wrote.
On May 14, 2014, after Coach Briles learned from an assistant coach that a
player had been caught selling drugs, he texted: "I'm hoping it will take care of
itself if not we can discuss best way to move on it." The offense was never
reported to Judicial Affairs and Coach Briles arranged for the player to transfer
to another school. The assistant coach texted: "Him just hanging around Waco
scares me. [Another school] will take him. Knows baggage."
On August 15, 2015, after a player was arrested for possession of marijuana,
Coach Briles texted an assistant coach: "**** how about that he's gonna b
(sic) in the system now let me know what you think we should do... I can get
shill (Shillinglaw) to call Sibley or we can.... Do we know who complained?"
The assistant coach responded that the complainant was the superintendent at
the player's apartment complex. Coach Briles replied: "We need to know who
supervisor is and get him to alert us first."
Facts are stubborn things. I note you refuted none of the points in my postKeyser Soze said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem#Types_of_ad_hominem_arguments
Osodecentx said:Facts are stubborn things. I note you refuted none of the points in my postKeyser Soze said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem#Types_of_ad_hominem_arguments
Like those text
If you are pointing out that those that fired Briles have their own issues I'm gonna agree with you. That is also a poor argument Briles did nothing.
I note you refuted none of the points in my postKeyser Soze said:Osodecentx said:Facts are stubborn things. I note you refuted none of the points in my postKeyser Soze said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem#Types_of_ad_hominem_arguments
Like those text
If you are pointing out that those that fired Briles have their own issues I'm gonna agree with you. That is also a poor argument Briles did nothing.
There is no PH report.
Murff was a member of the Baylor board when the school fired Briles in late May of 2016.
Under oath, Murff said, "I can't say a specific rule [Briles] broke."
Cannon asked Murff if Briles ever broke any rules or violated a university procedure when it came to his handling and reporting of assault allegations.
"No sir, not that I'm aware of," Murff said.
Cannon asked if Briles had concealed any information regarding sexual or domestic assaults by his players.
"No sir, not that I'm aware of," Murff said.
But rumor mongering, selective text message leaking, and trashing ourselves in public sure is a hoot.
Under oath, Murff said, "I can't say a specific rule [Briles] broke."
Cannon asked Murff if Briles ever broke any rules or violated a university procedure when it came to his handling and reporting of assault allegations.
"No sir, not that I'm aware of," Murff said.
Cannon asked if Briles had concealed any information regarding sexual or domestic assaults by his players.
"No sir, not that I'm aware of," Murff said.
But rumor mongering, selective text message leaking, and trashing ourselves in public sure is a hoot.
This is a really interesting question because Baylor was ordered to hand over a PH report to the plaintiffs in the pending lawsuit. The deadline was around when COVID hit. I'm now not sure of the status of that deadline or if it was met. Of course it may be something purporting to be the PH report was handed over but the plaintiff is not allowed at this time to let the press/public know that it has occurred or what is in it. Baylor had been fighting tooth and nail against having to turn it over. That leads me to believe there may not have been a real report or it didnt exactly back up the Regent's actions in May of 16.Keyser Soze said:
There is no PH report.
If there isnt one that order put Baylor into quite a conundrum.
There is a ton of PH work product. The BOR selectively leaked little bits here and there all over the place until they blew privilege, which was as predictable as the sun rising in the east if you were watching this play out. Now they're still playing the same old tune of "no report" ostensibly because the final delivery was verbal. But there is plenty of info and work product gathered by PH. The judge ordered them to turn all that over and laced into them pretty good for the way they've played games with this stuff.PartyBear said:This is a really interesting question because Baylor was ordered to hand over a PH report to the plaintiffs in the pending lawsuit. The deadline was around when COVID hit. I'm now not sure of the status of that deadline or if it was met. Of course it may be something purporting to be the PH report was handed over but the plaintiff is not allowed at this time to let the press/public know that it has occurred or what is in it. Baylor had been fighting tooth and nail against having to turn it over. That leads me to believe there may not have been a real report or it didnt exactly back up the Regent's actions in May of 16.Keyser Soze said:
There is no PH report.
If there isnt one that order put Baylor into quite a conundrum.
Hiring PH in the manner that they were hired, then using them in the manner that they were used, was a massive blunder. That's not even getting into the apparent execution of the investigation.
PartyBear said:This is a really interesting question because Baylor was ordered to hand over a PH report to the plaintiffs in the pending lawsuit. The deadline was around when COVID hit. I'm now not sure of the status of that deadline or if it was met. Of course it may be something purporting to be the PH report was handed over but the plaintiff is not allowed at this time to let the press/public know that it has occurred or what is in it. Baylor had been fighting tooth and nail against having to turn it over. That leads me to believe there may not have been a real report or it didnt exactly back up the Regent's actions in May of 16.Keyser Soze said:
There is no PH report.
If there isnt one that order put Baylor into quite a conundrum.
There was never a report, but there were notes and power point docs that helped PH with their presentation. Baylor has claimed that is work product you can't have. I believe that the judge said they did have to turn that over and it has not been turned over.
The PH lawyers, now with a different firm, did an audit of the implementation of the 101 PH recommendations. The Findings of Fact were part of that audit and the lawyer had no problem with it. While PH did not write the F of F, they clearly agree with it.
Baylor has settled all T9 lawsuits quickly except for this one (multiple clients). If you look at the depositions, they have had little to do with the victim and all about Briles, PH, and Regents. I believe the plaintiffs attorney's game plan is to find something Baylor does not want public and will get a payoff to go away.
The only reason for a non written report is to keep what was to avoid embarassment and liability.Keyser Soze said:PartyBear said:This is a really interesting question because Baylor was ordered to hand over a PH report to the plaintiffs in the pending lawsuit. The deadline was around when COVID hit. I'm now not sure of the status of that deadline or if it was met. Of course it may be something purporting to be the PH report was handed over but the plaintiff is not allowed at this time to let the press/public know that it has occurred or what is in it. Baylor had been fighting tooth and nail against having to turn it over. That leads me to believe there may not have been a real report or it didnt exactly back up the Regent's actions in May of 16.Keyser Soze said:
There is no PH report.
If there isnt one that order put Baylor into quite a conundrum.
There was never a report, but there were notes and power point docs that helped PH with their presentation. Baylor has claimed that is work product you can't have. I believe that the judge said they did have to turn that over and it has not been turned over.
The PH lawyers, now with a different firm, did an audit of the implementation of the 101 PH recommendations. The Findings of Fact were part of that audit and the lawyer had no problem with it. While PH did not write the F of F, they clearly agree with it.
Baylor has settled all T9 lawsuits quickly except for this one (multiple clients). If you look at the depositions, they have had little to do with the victim and all about Briles, PH, and Regents. I believe the plaintiffs attorney's game plan is to find something Baylor does not want public and will get a payoff to go away.
“It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.” ~ Upton Sinclair
Yeah, the BOR took their own notes which say whatever they want them to say. What a pile of crap.
Timbear said:
Yeah, the BOR took their own notes which say whatever they want them to say. What a pile of crap.
Just like the text messages
There were no notes.Timbear said:
Yeah, the BOR took their own notes which say whatever they want them to say. What a pile of crap.
PH gave guidance.
Here is the report by PH lawyers (Now at Cozen O'Conner) on the 105 recommendation .... not a report by BOR. The F of F is referenced. It either accurately reflect what the PH said or the PH lawyers are risking their professional careers to protect regents (they are not risking careers for Baylor regents).
https://www.baylor.edu/thefacts/doc.php/301337.pdf
FIFUDAC said:Timbear said:
Yeah, the BOR took their own notes which say whatever they want them to say. What a pile of crap.
Just likethe text messagesBrile's own words
TexasScientist said:The only reason for a non written report is to keep what was to avoid embarassment and liability.Keyser Soze said:PartyBear said:This is a really interesting question because Baylor was ordered to hand over a PH report to the plaintiffs in the pending lawsuit. The deadline was around when COVID hit. I'm now not sure of the status of that deadline or if it was met. Of course it may be something purporting to be the PH report was handed over but the plaintiff is not allowed at this time to let the press/public know that it has occurred or what is in it. Baylor had been fighting tooth and nail against having to turn it over. That leads me to believe there may not have been a real report or it didnt exactly back up the Regent's actions in May of 16.Keyser Soze said:
There is no PH report.
If there isnt one that order put Baylor into quite a conundrum.
There was never a report, but there were notes and power point docs that helped PH with their presentation. Baylor has claimed that is work product you can't have. I believe that the judge said they did have to turn that over and it has not been turned over.
The PH lawyers, now with a different firm, did an audit of the implementation of the 101 PH recommendations. The Findings of Fact were part of that audit and the lawyer had no problem with it. While PH did not write the F of F, they clearly agree with it.
Baylor has settled all T9 lawsuits quickly except for this one (multiple clients). If you look at the depositions, they have had little to do with the victim and all about Briles, PH, and Regents. I believe the plaintiffs attorney's game plan is to find something Baylor does not want public and will get a payoff to go away.
Agree,
I think we likely disagree on the scope and origin of that liability.
Now 7-2
Lost 49-43 last night
Lost 49-43 last night
Well, thankfully his protege, Phil Montgomery and his Tulsa Tornadoes (erh Hurricanes) overcame a sloppy game to win on the last second TD. Unfortunately I fell asleep just minutes before and didn't know the outcome until checking the web this morning 
I don't think I ever went to sleep in a Briles game however
I don't think I ever went to sleep in a Briles game however
That's 43 points Baylor hasn't been able to put up on the score board. We used to be in the top two or three scoring teams in the nation. You can't win without points on the board.Osodecentx said:
Now 7-2
Lost 49-43 last night
“It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.” ~ Upton Sinclair
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