Luka Doncic traded...

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Mothra said:

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I still think there must be more to the story… But Nico is making it sound like they feared they were going to lose him either way and might as well get something for him.


Mavs GM Nico Harrison on stunning Luka Doncic trade: 'It's my job to make tough decisions'
The Mavs are sending their star player to the Lakers in a stunning deal.



Feb. 1, 2025

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Updated Feb. 2, 2025 at 9:02 a.m. CST

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Dallas Mavericks guard Luka Doncic runs during the first half of an NBA basketball game...
Dallas Mavericks guard Luka Doncic runs during the first half of an NBA basketball game against the Portland Trail Blazers, Monday, Dec. 23, 2024, in Dallas. (AP Photo/LM Otero)(LM Otero / AP)
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This story has been updated with quotes from Mavericks general manager Nico Harrison.

In the most shocking trade in Mavericks and perhaps NBA history, Dallas is sending 25-year-old superstar Luka Doncic to the Lakers in a blockbuster that brings perennial All-Star Anthony Davis to the Mavericks.

The news broke late Saturday night, sending shockwaves through the NBA, but with two epicenters: Dallas and Los Angeles.

As part of the three-team deal, which was officially announced at 9:06 a.m. Sunday, the Mavericks are sending Maxi Kleber and Markieff Morris to the Lakers. Along with Davis, Los Angeles is sending Max Christie and a 2029 first-round pick to Dallas.


Reaction among Mavericks fans ranged from utter shock to outrage that Dallas would trade a transcendent talent and five-time All-NBA first team player who seemingly hasn't even reached his prime for a first-round pick and top-ten NBA player, sure, but one who is six years older than Doncic.

"I understand why they would be shocked, initially," Mavericks general manager Nico Harrison told The News. "But I do believe that we positioned ourselves to win now and also win in the future.

"And that's ultimately the goal and why we're here. It's one of those things where it's my job to make the tough decisions that put our goals first and foremost."

How, when and why did this megadeal come to fruition?

Harrison cited his two-decade relationship with Lakers general manager Rob Pelinka, starting when Harrison was a Nike executive and Pelinka was a player agent.

Harrison told The News that he and Pelinka began having "basketball" conversations more than a month ago.

"Then all of a sudden we're like, 'Would you ever do this?'

'Nah, you're joking, right?'

'Hmm. Interesting. Maybe I would.'

Added Harrison: "And then it just built over time over the last three weeks."

A person familiar with the Mavericks' thinking told The News that Harrison got full support from team governor Patrick Dumont in the weeks leading to the trade and when it was time to pull the trigger late Saturday night.

Doncic is in his seventh NBA season and averages 28.6 points for his career, third-highest in NBA history to this point.

This season, however, Doncic has only played in 22 games and has missed the last 18 with a left calf strain, drawing even closer scrutiny to his career-long struggles with maintaining optimal conditioning.

Until this trade, Doncic was eligible to receive a five-year, $345 million supermax extension from the Mavericks this offseason, and in recent weeks there had been rumblings about whether Dallas and its franchise face were headed to a precarious crossroad:

Would Dallas offer the supermax? Would Doncic take it, or play one more season and enter unrestricted free agency?

Now that he's been traded, however, Doncic no longer is eligible for that supermax extension.

"We really feel like we got ahead of what was going to be a tumultuous summer, him being eligible for the supermax and also a year away from him being able to opt out of any contract," Harrison said. "And so we really felt like we got out in front of that. We know teams, they've had it out there, teams have been loading up to try to sign him once that comes available."

Davis, 6-10 and 250 pounds, last week was named to his 10th NBA All-Star team. He has career averages of 24.2 points and 10.7 rebounds and co-led, with LeBron James, the Lakers to the 2020 NBA championship.

As much as his scoring and rebounding will help Dallas, it's Davis' prowess as a five-team All-Defensive team member and three-time NBA blocked shots leader that was coveted by Harrison and Mavericks coach Jason Kidd, who was an assistant on that 2020 Lakers title team.

"We really feel that defense wins championships, and we think the players that we're bringing in add to the culture, which is important to what J-Kidd and I have been building here from day one," Harrison said.

"And then obviously, when you get an all NBA player who's also a first team All-Defensive player, we think that's gonna help us where we need it the most, on the defensive end."

Davis primarily has played center the last three seasons for the Lakers and recently told ESPN that he longed for Los Angeles to acquire a center, which would allow Davis to return to power forward, his preferred position and the position he played when Los Angeles won the title.

In joining the Mavericks, Davis will play alongside center Daniel Gafford and eventually Dereck Lively II when he returns from his recent ankle stress fracture.

"I think if you look at the Cleveland Cavaliers, that's what you're going to see," said Harrison, a reference to Cleveland's imposing frontcourt of Evan Mobley and Jarrett Allen. "Anthony's probably going to finish games at the five, but you're going to see those guys play together. And when Lakers won, he played the four."

Harrison said that as of early Sunday morning, he had not communicated directly with Doncic, but, rather Doncic's agent Bill Duffy.

Harrison said he did text and leave a phone message for Doncic.

"My guess is he probably doesn't want to talk to me," Harrison said.

That probably also reflects the mood of many Mavericks fans, but let's see how this shocking trade plays out in the coming weeks, years and perhaps a decade.

The Mavs play the Lakers twice more this regular season: in Los Angeles on Feb. 25 and in Dallas on April 9.


So Gafford and Lively aren't going to be playing in crunch time at the end of games?

Simply incredible.


Adding AD definitely upgrades our interior defense...but against Boston it was our perimeter defense that got us torched.

This trade has made our present and our future worse.

Take a bow Nico.
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Mothra said:


So Gafford and Lively aren't going to be playing in crunch time at the end of games?

Simply incredible.
That's the part that makes this so baffling. They didn't even address an area of need.

Is AD (when healthy) an upgrade over those two? Sure. Was the frontcourt a weakness? Not at all.

I just can't even wrap my head around the rationale behind making a move like this and handling it the way they did. It's either incompetence or something far more nefarious.
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Based on what Nico is saying, this seems to be one of those over-thought deals where the Mavs got too cute for their own good trying to get ahead of the curve. It's like the Giants cutting Saquon.

But wanting to be more like the Cavs is a simply an incredible statement.
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Mothra said:

Based on what Nico is saying, this seems to be one of those over-thought deals where the Mavs got too cute for their own good trying to get ahead of the curve. It's like the Giants cutting Saquon.

But wanting to be more like the Cavs is a simply an incredible statement.
If you're trying get ahead of curve, shop Luka to the entire league and get a return commensurate with the generational talent you're trading away.

All of these "justifications" fall completely flat.

This was a terrible basketball move and an even worse fan relations move. It's either utter incompetence or something more nefarious. And I had no reason before last night to believe Nico Harrison was incompetent.
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I like the concept. I don't think the Mavs were ever going to win a title with Luka as the alpha dog.

Execution of the trade was terrible. Hard to believe that OKC or SA would not have given up prospects and picks for Luka.

I think the conditioning issue is real but could be fixed if he bought in. I think the defensive play is a fatal flaw with him and I don't know that it can be fixed.

I also think on the offensive end Luka is a savant and possibly close to the perfect point guard.
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bear2be2 said:

Mothra said:

Based on what Nico is saying, this seems to be one of those over-thought deals where the Mavs got too cute for their own good trying to get ahead of the curve. It's like the Giants cutting Saquon.

But wanting to be more like the Cavs is a simply an incredible statement.
If you're trying get ahead of curve, shop Luka to the entire league and get a return commensurate with the generational talent you're trading away.

All of these "justifications" fall completely flat.

This was a terrible basketball move and an even worse fan relations move. It's either utter incompetence or something more nefarious. And I had no reason before last night to believe Nico Harrison was incompetent.


What do you mean by nefarious? Are you insinuating the league orchestrated this in someway to increase ratings and interest?

I am far from a conspiracy theorist… But when something like this happens that makes zero sense my mind can't help but wander.
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boognish_bear said:

bear2be2 said:

Mothra said:

Based on what Nico is saying, this seems to be one of those over-thought deals where the Mavs got too cute for their own good trying to get ahead of the curve. It's like the Giants cutting Saquon.

But wanting to be more like the Cavs is a simply an incredible statement.
If you're trying get ahead of curve, shop Luka to the entire league and get a return commensurate with the generational talent you're trading away.

All of these "justifications" fall completely flat.

This was a terrible basketball move and an even worse fan relations move. It's either utter incompetence or something more nefarious. And I had no reason before last night to believe Nico Harrison was incompetent.


What do you mean by nefarious? Are you insinuating the league orchestrated this in someway to increase ratings and interest?

I am far from a conspiracy theorist… But when something like this happens that makes zero sense my mind can't help but wander.
I'm not willing to go that far. But I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if this was the Mavericks new ownership group trying to turn the AAC into a ghost town so they can make a guilt-free (in their mind) move to Las Vegas here in the next five years.

I also wouldn't be terribly surprised if Nico Harrison ends up in the Lakers front office sometime in that timeframe.

There's just no other justifiable reason to trade a 25-year-old franchise player who is universally beloved by your fan base and just led you to the finals with a relatively mediocre roster the year before.
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AD + Knecht + 1 rounder = maybe.....

- el KKM

Go Spurs Go!

Go Bears!
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No way a caring owner makes this trade. This is some "new coke" *****
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Well the Cavaliers might be the best team in league this year..

And they lead the Mavs 50-19 after the FIRST QUARTER.
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Stefano DiMera said:

Well the Cavaliers might be the best team in league this year..

And they lead the Mavs 50-19 after the FIRST QUARTER.
Let's see where they are at the end of the year. I doubt it's holding the trophy.
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Not surprised. If his press conference is any indication, where he began with a joke about the size of the crowd, this guy cannot read a room. Couldn't believe how flippant he was toward the fan' anger. It's as if he forgot who pays his salary.

I came away from the press conference concluding that he is probably on the spectrum. He reminded me a bit of my autistic son.
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Mothra said:

boognish_bear said:


Not surprised. If his press conference is any indication, where he began with a joke about the size of the crowd, this guy cannot read a room. Couldn't believe how flippant he was toward the fan' anger. It's as if he forgot who pays his salary.

I came away from the press conference concluding that he is probably on the spectrum. He reminded me a bit of my autistic son.


I spent the Cowboys season hoping to see a half empty ATT Stadium. Now I'll spend this Spring hoping to see a half empty AAC.

There have to be some financial consequences for these owners/GMs giving the fans the middle finger.
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spurs get fox from sac: for a 1st (2027) and zach collins.... also send back the 1st from chi to chi.......

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boognish_bear said:

Mothra said:

boognish_bear said:


Not surprised. If his press conference is any indication, where he began with a joke about the size of the crowd, this guy cannot read a room. Couldn't believe how flippant he was toward the fan' anger. It's as if he forgot who pays his salary.

I came away from the press conference concluding that he is probably on the spectrum. He reminded me a bit of my autistic son.


I spent the Cowboys season hoping to see a half empty ATT Stadium. Now I'll spend this Spring hoping to see a half empty AAC.

There have to be some financial consequences for these owners/GMs giving the fans the middle finger.
Same.
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Best quote about this I've seen. "JFK was treated better in Dallas"
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I'm interested to see how the Mavs do the rest of the season. Nico put his career on the line with this move. If it pays off, he'll come off as a genius and a movie like Moneyball will made about this. If it doesn't, he'll never get hired as a GM again.

It will also be interesting to see if Lebron can show Luka what conditioning is needed to last for a long time in this league. Luka is a phenomenal player and his basketball IQ is through the roof, but I've always wondered what he would be like as a 30- or 35-year old player because he already plays like a 30-35 year old player.
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The fitness thing has to be a smoke screen. Dirk will be the first one to tell you that he didn't take his body seriously until his 30s. So to assume that Luka wouldn't flip the switch somewhere down the line...? Doesn't add up.

At best, this still feels like an ownership decision to cut payroll and reduce fan interest. At worst, this feels like some sort of collusion to get the league's best player on a marquee team.
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bear2be2 said:

Mothra said:

Based on what Nico is saying, this seems to be one of those over-thought deals where the Mavs got too cute for their own good trying to get ahead of the curve. It's like the Giants cutting Saquon.

But wanting to be more like the Cavs is a simply an incredible statement.
If you're trying get ahead of curve, shop Luka to the entire league and get a return commensurate with the generational talent you're trading away.

All of these "justifications" fall completely flat.

This was a terrible basketball move and an even worse fan relations move. It's either utter incompetence or something more nefarious. And I had no reason before last night to believe Nico Harrison was incompetent.


I think the term 'generational talent' gets thrown around loosely and too often.

When I hear the word 'Generational,' less than 10 names come to mind dating back to the 80's.

Magic
Bird
Jordan
Shaq
Kobe
LeBron
Steph
KD

There's no denying that Luka is a VERY GOOD player, but I wouldn't put him on par with LeBron, Steph, or a healthy KD just yet.

I guess time will tell as to whether this was a good trade or not (when healthy, Anthony Davis is a tremendous upgrade defensively).

If conditioning really was a concern with Luka, then cutting bait before committing long term dollars might not have been the worst decision to make.

I'll say this though - Winning solves everything.

Just look at the Washington Nationals. Bryce Harper left em, and then the very next year they win the World Series.

We'll see if the Mavs can somehow wind up in that boat.
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LTBear19 said:

bear2be2 said:

Mothra said:

Based on what Nico is saying, this seems to be one of those over-thought deals where the Mavs got too cute for their own good trying to get ahead of the curve. It's like the Giants cutting Saquon.

But wanting to be more like the Cavs is a simply an incredible statement.
If you're trying get ahead of curve, shop Luka to the entire league and get a return commensurate with the generational talent you're trading away.

All of these "justifications" fall completely flat.

This was a terrible basketball move and an even worse fan relations move. It's either utter incompetence or something more nefarious. And I had no reason before last night to believe Nico Harrison was incompetent.


I think the term 'generational talent' gets thrown around loosely and too often.

When I hear the word 'Generational,' less than 10 names come to mind dating back to the 80's.

Magic
Bird
Jordan
Shaq
Kobe
LeBron
Steph
KD

There's no denying that Luka is a VERY GOOD player, but I wouldn't put him on par with LeBron, Steph, or a healthy KD just yet.

I guess time will tell as to whether this was a good trade or not (when healthy, Anthony Davis is a tremendous upgrade defensively).

If conditioning really was a concern with Luka, then cutting bait before committing long term dollars might not have been the worst decision to make.

I'll say this though - Winning solves everything.

Just look at the Washington Nationals. Bryce Harper left em, and then the very next year they win the World Series.

We'll see if the Mavs can somehow wind up in that boat.
He is on a trajectory to be a generational talent. His numbers projected over time will put him in a category with those guys. The biggest question will be health/fitness. His pace of play doesn't really rely on quickness and athleticism. So even not being in top physical shape may not slow his numbers down much.

The lack of athleticism does show up in his defense though. All the guys you listed above...except maybe Magic and Steph....were also really strong defenders.

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The Luka trade may lead to the Mavs getting bounced in the first round of a play-in game and the Lakers hoist the trophy this year.
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BUCANDOIT82 said:

The Luka trade may lead to the Mavs getting bounced in the first round of a play-in game and the Lakers hoist the trophy this year.


I'm a lifelong Mavs fan...and I hope it does
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LTBear19 said:

bear2be2 said:

Mothra said:

Based on what Nico is saying, this seems to be one of those over-thought deals where the Mavs got too cute for their own good trying to get ahead of the curve. It's like the Giants cutting Saquon.

But wanting to be more like the Cavs is a simply an incredible statement.
If you're trying get ahead of curve, shop Luka to the entire league and get a return commensurate with the generational talent you're trading away.

All of these "justifications" fall completely flat.

This was a terrible basketball move and an even worse fan relations move. It's either utter incompetence or something more nefarious. And I had no reason before last night to believe Nico Harrison was incompetent.


I think the term 'generational talent' gets thrown around loosely and too often.

When I hear the word 'Generational,' less than 10 names come to mind dating back to the 80's.

Magic
Bird
Jordan
Shaq
Kobe
LeBron
Steph
KD

There's no denying that Luka is a VERY GOOD player, but I wouldn't put him on par with LeBron, Steph, or a healthy KD just yet.

I guess time will tell as to whether this was a good trade or not (when healthy, Anthony Davis is a tremendous upgrade defensively).

If conditioning really was a concern with Luka, then cutting bait before committing long term dollars might not have been the worst decision to make.

I'll say this though - Winning solves everything.

Just look at the Washington Nationals. Bryce Harper left em, and then the very next year they win the World Series.

We'll see if the Mavs can somehow wind up in that boat.
Go look at Luka's numbers. He's outpaced all of those players through age 25 and has already led relatively mediocre rosters to the conference finals and NBA finals.

If he doesn't qualify, no one qualifies.
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