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MBB: Baylor vs South Carolina Preview & Game Thread

March 24, 2017
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3 seeded Baylor (27-7) takes on 7 seeded South Carolina (24-10) in the Sweet 16 of the NCAA Tournament on Friday March 24th at 6:29pm CST.  The game is broadcast on TBS.  Here's a look at the match-up. 

KenPom Analysis
Rankings:  Baylor (10); South Carolina (28)
Offensive Efficiency:  Baylor (20); South Carolina (122)
Defensive Efficiency:  Baylor (13); South Carolina (4)
Prediction:  Baylor 65 South Carolina 61

Coaches

Baylor:  Scott Drew (299-189)
  • 46 years old
  • 7 NCAA bids; 1 NIT Title
  • 2 Elite 8s; 4 Sweet 16s

South Carolina:   Frank Martin (211-125) 

  • 50 years old
  • 5 NCAA bids; 2 Sweet 16s; 1 Elite 8

South Carolina Starters
Forward:  6-10 245 lbs Maik Kotsar (FR): 6 ppg; 5 reb; 48% FG; 41% FT

Forward:  6-9 230 lbs Chris Silva (SO):  10 ppg; 6 reb; 55% FG; 75% FT

Forward:  6-6 205 lbs PJ Dozier (SO):  14 ppg; 5 reb; 3 asst; 2 st; 40% FG; 30% 3pt; 59% FT

Guard:  6-2 225 lbs Duane Notice (SR):  10 ppg; 2 asst; 39% FG; 68% FT; 34% 3pt

Guard:  6-5 211 lbs Sindarius Thornwell (SR):  21 ppg;  7 reb; 2 st; 44% FG; 40% 3pt; 83% FT
South Carolina Bench

Forward:  6-9 240 lbs Sedee Keita (FR):  1 ppg; 2 reb; 27% FG; 44% FT

Guard:  6-4 204 lbs Justin McKie (SR):  4 ppg; 2 reb; 38% FG; 63% FT; 32% 3pt

Guard:  5-10 210 lbs Raykym Felder (FR):  6 ppg; 42% FG; 44% 3pt; 67% FT

Guard:  6-1 183 lbs Hassani Gravett (SO):  4 ppg; 29% FG; 65% FT; 22% 3pt

Baylor Starters

Forward:  7-0 220 lbs Jo Lual-Acuil (JR):  9 ppg; 7 reb; 54% FG; 49% FT; 33% 3pt; 3 blks

Forward:  6-10 230 lbs Johnathan Motley (JR): 17 ppg; 10 reb; 52% FG; 71% FT; 27% 3pt

Forward:  6-5 235 lbs Ish Wainright (SR): 6 ppg; 5 reb; 3 asst; 41% FG; 68% FT; 30% 3pt; 2 st

Guard:  6-3 215 lbs King McClure (SO):  5 ppg; 45% FG; 37% 3pt; 73% FT

Guard:  5-11 175 lbs Manu Lecomte (JR):  12 ppg; 4 asst; 43% FG; 41% 3pt; 83% FT

Baylor Bench

Forward:  6-8 230 lbs Terry Maston (JR):  7 ppg; 4 reb; 54% FG; 81% FT

Forward:  6-9 205 lbs Nuni Omot (JR):  4 ppg; 2 reb; 40% FG; 86% FT; 32% 3pt

Guard:  6-5 200 lbs Jake Lindsey (SO):  5 ppg; 2 reb; 3 asst; 45% FG; 40% 3pt; 71% FT

Guard:  6-3 200 lbs Al Freeman (JR):  10 ppg; 2 reb; 44% FG; 39% 3pt; 83% FT

MBB: Baylor vs South Carolina Preview & Game Thread

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8:40p, 3/24/17
SC is sponsored by ****ty UA
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8:40p, 3/24/17
Very disappointing way for this to end. I did not anticipate a blow out but knew these were 50.50.type games.

This team exceeded my expectations overall. Good news is that we will have future opportunities with Drew.
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In reply to Hambone • 8:40p, 3/24/17
Hambone said:
The X Factor said:
Largest loss by a number 1 ranked team AND a 3 seed in the history of college basketball. How does that happen?
largest loss by a #1 team after becoming #1 for the first time, no?

We weren't a 2 seed bro!

and where is the link to the biggest loss by a 3 seed in history? I'd love to see that data, especially considering our margin isn't even decided yet...

2 seed OU lost by 44 in the Final Four last year.



We weren't a 2 seed bro. I'm just having fun with y'all. It was a good season. But it is typical drew to choke it off when we have the easiest path to the championship game in history. Let's go lady bears!
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In reply to 3ptSpecialist • 8:41p, 3/24/17
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Motley is definitely going pro unless he gets a late 2nd round grade. I wouldn't hold much hope in that scenario.

I agree. I think he goes 25-30 and becomes a decent bench player in the NBA. He will play up to his talent whereas Acy has exceeded his talent through hard work and grit.
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8:42p, 3/24/17
Picked a bad night against a hot team to have our worst game of the year. Just out of sync offensively all night and we let it affect our defense which you can't do. Congrats to Frank Martin, his team played a hell of a game.
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8:43p, 3/24/17
Motley might get drafted but he will be in the D League so fast.
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In reply to The X Factor • 8:43p, 3/24/17
The X Factor said:
Hambone said:
The X Factor said:
Largest loss by a number 1 ranked team AND a 3 seed in the history of college basketball. How does that happen?
largest loss by a #1 team after becoming #1 for the first time, no?

We weren't a 2 seed bro!

and where is the link to the biggest loss by a 3 seed in history? I'd love to see that data, especially considering our margin isn't even decided yet...

2 seed OU lost by 44 in the Final Four last year.



We weren't a 2 seed bro. I'm just having fun with y'all. It was a good season. But it is typical drew to choke it off when we have the easiest path to the championship game in history. Let's go lady bears!


Easiest path? Have you seen KU's bracket?
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8:43p, 3/24/17
Our bench shot 1-17 for the game. Unbelievable.
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In reply to 3ptSpecialist • 8:43p, 3/24/17
3ptSpecialist said:
Motley is definitely going pro unless he gets a late 2nd round grade. I wouldn't hold much hope in that scenario.

Well, I'm sure eastern Europe is really nice
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8:44p, 3/24/17
At least Equestrian won 10-9 vs. TCU!
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In reply to Blackout Sniper • 8:45p, 3/24/17
Black_Storm said:
Motley might get drafted but he will be in the D League so fast.


He's got too much talent. He'll get coached up in the NBA. I think if anything he'll be a good role player off the bench. I'd say that should be his floor
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In reply to Bodhibear • 8:45p, 3/24/17
Bodhibear said:
3ptSpecialist said:
Motley is definitely going pro unless he gets a late 2nd round grade. I wouldn't hold much hope in that scenario.

Well, I'm sure eastern Europe is really nice


Sarajevo really isn't as bad as you think. 8s-9s galore over there.
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In reply to CHIbear • 8:47p, 3/24/17
CHIbear said:
Black_Storm said:
Motley might get drafted but he will be in the D League so fast.


He's got too much talent. He'll get coached up in the NBA. I think if anything he'll be a good role player off the bench. I'd say that should be his floor
He is very talented but at the NBA 4 position, who will he guard? He will get abused nightly. And his jumper isn't consist with pressure.
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In reply to The X Factor • 8:47p, 3/24/17
The X Factor said:
Hambone said:
The X Factor said:
Largest loss by a number 1 ranked team AND a 3 seed in the history of college basketball. How does that happen?
largest loss by a #1 team after becoming #1 for the first time, no?

We weren't a 2 seed bro!

and where is the link to the biggest loss by a 3 seed in history? I'd love to see that data, especially considering our margin isn't even decided yet...

2 seed OU lost by 44 in the Final Four last year.



We weren't a 2 seed bro. I'm just having fun with y'all. It was a good season. But it is typical drew to choke it off when we have the easiest path to the championship game in history. Let's go lady bears!


**** you man, that's never been the case. Both Elite 8 teams lost to the eventual champs, but you make up whatever **** you want. **** off, for real.
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In reply to 3ptSpecialist • 8:47p, 3/24/17
3ptSpecialist said:
we shoot 14 or 15 airballs tonight?

That late airball by Al was possibly the worst shot I have ever seen.
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8:48p, 3/24/17
And the rest of the world is happy tonight.
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In reply to Blackout Sniper • 8:52p, 3/24/17
Black_Storm said:
CHIbear said:
Black_Storm said:
Motley might get drafted but he will be in the D League so fast.


He's got too much talent. He'll get coached up in the NBA. I think if anything he'll be a good role player off the bench. I'd say that should be his floor
He is very talented but at the NBA 4 position, who will he guard? He will get abused nightly. And his jumper isn't consist with pressure.


He could be in the mold of a Taj Gibson. He would need to put on more weight but he has more potential than anyone else that's come through in my opinion. He may end up in the D league or Europe but I'd like to see who he can be with some NBA coaching and some good mentors
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8:53p, 3/24/17
You know Belgrade really ain't bad either
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9:00p, 3/24/17
It looked like our players were happy just making sweet 16.. Shame, I was hoping that shoe would be on the other foot.
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In reply to BaylorLit 01 • 9:03p, 3/24/17
BaylorLit 01 said:
It looked like our players were happy just making sweet 16.. Shame, I was hoping that shoe would be on the other foot.


Y'all are the most glass half empty fans this side of LSU football.
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9:05p, 3/24/17
Great season I'm proud of our guys!!!!

But still believe Motley should come back he is nowhere ready for the NBA.

Sic Em!!!
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In reply to The X Factor • 9:05p, 3/24/17
I don't pretend to know a lot about basketball. I don't claim to be a high school legend or any of that nonsense. With that said, I am not blind. If you truly believe that the coaching caused this loss I can't help you. We all know you have disdain for Drew, but your schtik is old. He damn sure didn't turn the ball over, cause a team that normally shoots ft pretty well to lay enough bricks to build a mansion and our best shooters couldn't hit water if they fell out of a boat. You know Roy Williams sucked till he got to Carolina if you asked some people which is idiotic. I am not saying Drew is the best coach in the country, but he is far superior to what you give him credit for. Perhaps you will make a huge seven figure donation to the athletic department and tell them to hire John wooden.
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In reply to BUlaw02 • 9:08p, 3/24/17
BUlaw02 said:
I don't pretend to know a lot about basketball. I don't claim to be a high school legend or any of that nonsense. With that said, I am not blind. If you truly believe that the coaching caused this loss I can't help you. We all know you have disdain for Drew, but your schtik is old. He damn sure didn't turn the ball over, cause a team that normally shoots ft pretty well to lay enough bricks to build a mansion and our best shooters couldn't hit water if they fell out of a boat. You know Roy Williams sucked till he got to Carolina if you asked some people which is idiotic. I am not saying Drew is the best coach in the country, but he is far superior to what you give him credit for. Perhaps you will make a huge seven figure donation to the athletic department and tell them to hire John wooden.


He does it on purpose, and it's an extremely bizarre fetish. Best to not engage.
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9:23p, 3/24/17
Not blaming Drew, but that was the worst NCAA tournament loss in the Drew era. We were favored and lost by 20 in a game that was never close.
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In reply to BearCon • 9:29p, 3/24/17
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Not blaming Drew, but that was the worst NCAA tournament loss in the Drew era. We were favored and lost by 20 in a game that was never close.


We played Kansas close to the end in Lawrence. That doesn't compute with this game.
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In reply to The X Factor • 9:35p, 3/24/17
The X Factor said:
Hambone said:
The X Factor said:
Largest loss by a number 1 ranked team AND a 3 seed in the history of college basketball. How does that happen?
largest loss by a #1 team after becoming #1 for the first time, no?

and where is the link to the biggest loss by a 3 seed in history? I'd love to see that data, especially considering our margin isn't even decided yet...

2 seed OU lost by 44 in the Final Four last year.



We weren't a 2 seed bro. I'm just having fun with y'all. It was a good season. But it is typical drew to choke it off when we have the easiest path to the championship game in history. Let's go lady bears!
when you say something, it doesn't just make it true.

USC was on fire, SC is a buzzsaw right now, #4 kenpom Florida and Wisconsin are both VERY good, and then we would likely have to beat Gonzaga in the Final Four... yeah, so easy. just had to beat a top 25 team, a top 15 team, and then the #1 team to make it there. LOL
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In reply to Marshbear • 9:38p, 3/24/17
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Our bench shot 1-17 for the game. Unbelievable.
Ish, Maston, and Lindsey played as bad as possible. couldn't handle the SC half-court pressure.

Jake was out of control all night and Maston looked uncomfortable on every shot after missing 2 open ones early on.
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In reply to BearCon • 9:39p, 3/24/17
BearCon said:
Not blaming Drew, but that was the worst NCAA tournament loss in the Drew era. We were favored and lost by 20 in a game that was never close.
this is factual.

Drew is still 10-7 in the tourney and 9-3 as a favorite.
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9:43p, 3/24/17
Team was hungover. 3 sheets last night.
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In reply to ET Bear • 9:59p, 3/24/17
ET Bear said:
Hambone said:
ET Bear said:
Hambone said:
ET Bear said:
Ok, this will probably be an unpopular opinion. I really love Scott Drew and hope he stays as long as he wants, but.....he needs to instill more grit and toughness into this team. He is so enthusiastic and positive, that I'm afraid it leads to our team being somewhat soft. Frank Martin is a psycho and gets in players faces constantly, but his teams are TOUGH AND GRITTY. I do love this team and hope they learn from this.
Scott Drew came into this game with a 6-4 record against Frank Martin.

he's also 8-4 against Huggins at WVU.

this narrative that we can't beat tough teams is a joke. stop spreading BS

What happened the first time we played WVU and they punched us in the mouth? Yes, we won the second game against them because we have more talent, but AT TIMES, we fold under pressure. Your tendency to jump on someone and twist their words is tiresome.
responding with facts will never get tiresome to me.

You looking to turn everything into an argument is tiring. I think we agree on Drew for the most part - I love the man and he's done the impossible with our program. All I'm saying is at times we play soft and don't respond to getting punched in the mouth.
watch more college ball and tell me a team that this doesn't happen to... maybe WVU and SC? and we have great results vs both of their coaches. that was my point.
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In reply to EastTXBear2012 • 10:08p, 3/24/17
Rockpiece said:
Drew made 0 adjustments at halftime.. so frustrating.
I've been waiting years for someone to post halftime info from our locker room.

What else happened at half?
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10:18p, 3/24/17
Our guards were overmatched

Really needed Al to have a good game. I do think Drew didn't do enough to get Motley involved earlier during possessions, especially in first half

We couldn't get free on the perimeter and posts didn't take advantage of matchups
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In reply to riflebear • 10:20p, 3/24/17
riflebear said:
Rockpiece said:
Drew made 0 adjustments at halftime.. so frustrating.
I've been waiting years for someone to post halftime info from our locker room.

What else happened at half?


Kenpom 13 got sodomized by kenpom 26.
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10:30p, 3/24/17
Honest question: what else do you expect from Drew?

He has subpar facilites on a "football" campus and gets 2nd/3rd tier recruits and a bunch of transfers to go from unranked in preseason to #1 and a Sweet 16. And somehow he still sucks. I can't think if a single coach who gets more from less.

There are "premiere" programs who are currently coachless bc they couldn't win and it would serve us well to appreciate one who does.
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In reply to GoldMind • 10:49p, 3/24/17
GoldMind said:
riflebear said:
Rockpiece said:
Drew made 0 adjustments at halftime.. so frustrating.
I've been waiting years for someone to post halftime info from our locker room.

What else happened at half?


Kenpom 13 got sodomized by kenpom 26.
what is the point of this post?
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