The Claw said:

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bawitdaball said:

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The Claw said:

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I read an article that asked the question "What if Tom Brady was currently being held by Russian officials; would the response be different?" Unfortunately, I think so.

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I don't think Tom Brady would have an agent that allowed him anywhere near Russia in the last 6 months.

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I think you missed the point.

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You're hypothetical point is noted for hypothetical sexism, and racism, the actual point is TB12 wouldn't ever be in that position.

OBig-O!-Bear said:

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The Claw said:

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bawitdaball said:

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The Claw said:

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I read an article that asked the question "What if Tom Brady was currently being held by Russian officials; would the response be different?" Unfortunately, I think so.

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I don't think Tom Brady would have an agent that allowed him anywhere near Russia in the last 6 months.

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I think you missed the point.

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You're hypothetical point is noted for hypothetical sexism, and racism, the actual point is TB12 wouldn't ever be in that position.

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Oh, okay. So you got the point, but then you decided to make a different point and call your point the "actual point." Got it.

Hey if you need that windmill to tilt, go at it.

Everyone keeps missing the main point. She either 1) had the illegal drugs; or 2) did not have the illegal drugs. That must be answered first.

Praying for Brittney

SonOfZuno said:

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Everyone keeps missing the main point. She either 1) had the illegal drugs; or 2) did not have the illegal drugs. That must be answered first.

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Just STOP.

Doing it every day!

Consular official able to see BG. Says she is "in good condition."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/23/world/europe/brittney-griner-russia.html

Thanks for sharing this. Good to know

Did you just quote your own opinion?

He cannot get past his own bias. Beginning to think he's either drunk or an idiot.

not mutually exclusive

Lynnp550 said:

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He cannot get past his own bias. Beginning to think he's either drunk or an idiot.

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Bias?

And, of course, you get personal. Wow.

Praying for Brittney

The WNBA is a family. We’re all hoping for Brittney’s safe return. https://t.co/YcaWVVVZL0

— Atlanta Dream (@AtlantaDream) March 6, 2022

SonOfZuno said:

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SonOfZuno said:

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Everyone keeps missing the main point. She either 1) had the illegal drugs; or 2) did not have the illegal drugs. That must be answered first.

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Like it or not, this IS THE FIRST question to answer. Anyone jumping to her defense simply because she played basketball at Baylor are, frankly, part of the problem in America today.

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Actually I think your "question to be answered first" is an indication of what's part of the problem in American today. The answer to your question comes after the question of how a person is being treated. This is especially true when someone is being held in a country that doesn't have a particularly sparkling record regarding human rights. I would have these same concerns regardless of who's being held and what their alleged crime might be. I would rank my belief in the charges about even with something coming out of N Korea, China and any other number of lying liars. The fact that she played for BU hits very close to home. I would advocate for Lauren Cox, DiDi Richards or any other player who played for Baylor, to be released immediately. I don't believe Russians and nothing that has been produced by their propaganda machine has changed my mind.

The Claw said:

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bawitdaball said:

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The Claw said:

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I read an article that asked the question "What if Tom Brady was currently being held by Russian officials; would the response be different?" Unfortunately, I think so.

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I don't think Tom Brady would have an agent that allowed him anywhere near Russia in the last 6 months.

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I think you missed the point.

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Tom Brady being who he is would make it harder for Russia to let him go. To big of a bargaining chip for them.

GelaBear said:

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SonOfZuno said:

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SonOfZuno said:

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Everyone keeps missing the main point. She either 1) had the illegal drugs; or 2) did not have the illegal drugs. That must be answered first.

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Like it or not, this IS THE FIRST question to answer. Anyone jumping to her defense simply because she played basketball at Baylor are, frankly, part of the problem in America today.

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Actually I think your "question to be answered first" is an indication of what's part of the problem in American today. The answer to your question comes after the question of how a person is being treated. This is especially true when someone is being held in a country that doesn't have a particularly sparkling record regarding human rights. I would have these same concerns regardless of who's being held and what their alleged crime might be. I would rank my belief in the charges about even with something coming out of N Korea, China and any other number of lying liars. The fact that she played for BU hits very close to home. I would advocate for Lauren Cox, DiDi Richards or any other player who played for Baylor, to be released immediately. I don't believe Russians and nothing that has been produced by their propaganda machine has changed my mind.

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Well, as much as I hope it is absolutely not the truth, if it comes out that she in fact did have illegal drugs (per Russian law) in her possession you're going to feel pretty silly.

Sic'em

My earlier point exactly.

Worth repeating.

BG has been front and center at WNBA draft. The W has her back.

I would clean concrete floors with a toothbrush for less than minimum wage before I would travel to Russia right now. Unless things immensely change- I can't imagine any WNBA player going back over there.

GelaBear said:

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BG has been front and center at WNBA draft.
The W has her back.

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Praying for Brittney



"BG has always led with her heart and her absence has left a hole in ours. We are thankful to be joined by every team in bringing a version of this philanthropy in her name to each market."

- WNBA Phoenix Mercury twitter, 12 April 2022

People do all kinds of stupid things for money.

You could have left "stupid" out of the sentence and it would certainly hit the mark. There are lots of people who go and work in places which are not considered democracies to make money. And work dangerous jobs to make money - firefighting and crab fishing come to mind. Women have been playing basketball overseas for a long time.
https://sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/wnba-nneka-ogwumike-brittney-griner-speak-out-players-association-164347563.html