Scout Bear said:
Take a charge;
play whack a mole defense
Scout Bear said:
Take a charge;
play whack a mole defense
How about we stay at the level we've been at for the last decade?sicem45 said:
Take it for what its worth. Nicki is about to take this program to another level.
University of Florida women's basketball team leading scorer Lavender Briggs has entered the NCAA transfer portal, according to a source. Averaged 19.5 points per game and named second team All-SEC
— Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) July 14, 2021
longtimebear said:How about we stay at the level we've been at for the last decade?sicem45 said:
Take it for what its worth. Nicki is about to take this program to another level.
That would be outstanding in my book.
@woodsa75.... Guess you didn't see this yet....Wbbfan29 said:University of Florida women's basketball team leading scorer Lavender Briggs has entered the NCAA transfer portal, according to a source. Averaged 19.5 points per game and named second team All-SEC
— Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) July 14, 2021
Not winning multiple national titles with Griner was a failure and giant miss.lookin4awin said:
I guess you are pushing out the didn't beat AnM for the fourth time when Griner was a sophomore and the Louisville mauling when Griner was a senior. However, I think we should all recognize that a few of our prior teams probably went further than talent expectations. I will just throw out there the first national championship team that beat a stacked LSU team in the semi finals.
If Nicki has the winning percentage that our prior coach had (and I hope she does) I think we will all be happy. I am just not sure there is much room for a level above where we already were.
Briggs would absolutely be a great addition. She's a future 1st round pick! Heck, if she was in this past draft...she might've went 2 or 3.woodsa75 said:
Just read the news about CAM lavender would be great and also the other guard jordyn Merritt
slimecap said:Scout Bear said:
Take a charge;
play whack a mole defense
more than only 4 final fours in 21 years is the next level. Big 12 titles don't hold the same weight as final four appearances. Winning the big 12 is awesome but that doesn't mean you are the best. It just means you are better than 9 other teams, most if which suck. Final 4s are not a regular thing for BU wbb and they should be given the talent, facilities, & budget we have had.robby44 said:longtimebear said:How about we stay at the level we've been at for the last decade?sicem45 said:
Take it for what its worth. Nicki is about to take this program to another level.
That would be outstanding in my book.
Right.
What's next level
11 more straight conference championships?
robby44 said:longtimebear said:How about we stay at the level we've been at for the last decade?sicem45 said:
Take it for what its worth. Nicki is about to take this program to another level.
That would be outstanding in my book.
Right.
What's next level
11 more straight conference championships?
You do realize that by saying Kim and the program over her tenure is anything less than elite (top 5?) in the nation and that CNC will take us even higher is putting unrealistic expectations on CNC? I mean three years from now if we have not secured at least one final four(if not a National championship) and at least one #1 ranked recruiting class in the Nation as well as top 5 finishes in the others you will consider CNC a failure?Adriacus Peratuun said:robby44 said:longtimebear said:How about we stay at the level we've been at for the last decade?sicem45 said:
Take it for what its worth. Nicki is about to take this program to another level.
That would be outstanding in my book.
Right.
What's next level
11 more straight conference championships?
Next Level = Final Fours being regular occurrences. See above.
How in the hell do you underachieve when you have the second most NC amongst active coaches and the 3rd most all time ? The WBB at Baylor was crap before she came. She built the program and won her first championship in year 5 as a 3 seed defeating 3 number 1's in the process. By winning that early on in her HC coaching career Kim raised expectations way above from what they should have been. Could she have won more NC with Griner, yes she could have but she also won a couple in 05 and 19 with lesser talent. I'll be damn happy in CNC can win 3 NC over the next 20 years.sicem45 said:
Kim did good things but it's okay to aknowledgeable she also underachieved quite a bit. She is replaceable despite what many here think
4 final fours in 20+ years despite massive talent and resource advantages is the definition of underachievement. She is also stagnant, refusing to adapt to changes in the game today. Her offense was very stale which honestly was a giant reason for many of the early exits from the NCAAT. If they were just mediocre from shooting from 3/midrange, they would have advanced to a few more final fours and maybe have another title.baylor1984 said:
How in the hell do you underachieve when you have the second most NC amongst active coaches and the 3rd most all time ? The WBB at Baylor was crap before she came. She built the program and won her first championship in year 5 as a 3 seed defeating 3 number 1's in the process. By winning that early on in her HC coaching career Kim raised expectations way above from what they should have been. Could she have won more NC with Griner, yes she could have but she also won a couple in 05 and 19 with lesser talent. I'll be damn happy in CNC can win 3 NC over the next 20 years.
Kim didn't have massive talent or resource advantage 20 years ago. It's a program she built over time by winning first then demanding ( to many people's chagrin) more money, resources, facilities etc. for her program. It didn't happen overnight and quite frankly her success came so quickly that it gave many expectations that weren't realistic. Has Kim lost games in the elite 8 I thought she should win, yes she has but at the same time she won NC's that she shouldn't have. Only UConn over the last 20 years has had a superior program and KM would be the first to tell you that ( and she has on several occasions) she can't out coach Geno. Was it time for her to move on, it probably was but that in no way lessens on what she accomplished at her time at Baylor.sicem45 said:4 final fours in 20+ years despite massive talent and resource advantages is the definition of underachievement. She is also stagnant, refusing to adapt to changes in the game today. Her offense was very stale which honestly was a giant reason for many of the early exits from the NCAAT. If they were just mediocre from shooting from 3/midrange, they would have advanced to a few more final fours and maybe have another title.baylor1984 said:
How in the hell do you underachieve when you have the second most NC amongst active coaches and the 3rd most all time ? The WBB at Baylor was crap before she came. She built the program and won her first championship in year 5 as a 3 seed defeating 3 number 1's in the process. By winning that early on in her HC coaching career Kim raised expectations way above from what they should have been. Could she have won more NC with Griner, yes she could have but she also won a couple in 05 and 19 with lesser talent. I'll be damn happy in CNC can win 3 NC over the next 20 years.
The program was about to take a nose dive once the senior class left as Kim stopped recruiting after that 2018 class. She resorted to transfer portal as she was lazy on the recruiting trail. Hiring Rice to replace Toyelle Wilson was a giant mistake from a recruiting perspective.
I thank LSU for taking Kim off our hands as it was only a matter of time before things took a nose dive.
Geno is a master recruiter, look at all the #1 overall recruits he gets and other top 5 players. I am hoping Nicki can get more of these players. Kim struggled with getting the elite of the elite players at times.baylor1984 said:
Kim didn't have massive talent or resource advantage 20 years ago. It's a program she built over time by winning first then demanding ( to many people's chagrin) more money, resources, facilities etc. for her program. It didn't happen overnight and quite frankly her success came so quickly that it gave many expectations that weren't realistic. Has Kim lost games in the elite 8 I thought she should win, yes she has but at the same time she won NC's that she shouldn't have. Only UConn over the last 20 years has had a superior program and KM would be the first to tell you that ( and she has on several occasions) she can't out coach Geno. Was it time for her to move on, it probably was but that in no way lessens on what she accomplished at her time at Baylor.
I hope CNC can as well. It's hard to recruit at the level the Geno has.sicem45 said:Geno is a master recruiter, look at all the #1 overall recruits he gets and other top 5 players. I am hoping Nicki can get more of these players. Kim struggled with getting the elite of the elite players at times.baylor1984 said:
Kim didn't have massive talent or resource advantage 20 years ago. It's a program she built over time by winning first then demanding ( to many people's chagrin) more money, resources, facilities etc. for her program. It didn't happen overnight and quite frankly her success came so quickly that it gave many expectations that weren't realistic. Has Kim lost games in the elite 8 I thought she should win, yes she has but at the same time she won NC's that she shouldn't have. Only UConn over the last 20 years has had a superior program and KM would be the first to tell you that ( and she has on several occasions) she can't out coach Geno. Was it time for her to move on, it probably was but that in no way lessens on what she accomplished at her time at Baylor.
I'd star this three or four times if i could.Wbbfan29 said:
I hate how all the threads always drift off to talking about the same subject over and over. Can we stay on topic for once
sicem45 said:4 final fours in 20+ years despite massive talent and resource advantages is the definition of underachievement. She is also stagnant, refusing to adapt to changes in the game today. Her offense was very stale which honestly was a giant reason for many of the early exits from the NCAAT. If they were just mediocre from shooting from 3/midrange, they would have advanced to a few more final fours and maybe have another title.baylor1984 said:
How in the hell do you underachieve when you have the second most NC amongst active coaches and the 3rd most all time ? The WBB at Baylor was crap before she came. She built the program and won her first championship in year 5 as a 3 seed defeating 3 number 1's in the process. By winning that early on in her HC coaching career Kim raised expectations way above from what they should have been. Could she have won more NC with Griner, yes she could have but she also won a couple in 05 and 19 with lesser talent. I'll be damn happy in CNC can win 3 NC over the next 20 years.
The program was about to take a nose dive once the senior class left as Kim stopped recruiting after that 2018 class. She resorted to transfer portal as she was lazy on the recruiting trail. Hiring Rice to replace Toyelle Wilson was a giant mistake from a recruiting perspective.
I thank LSU for taking Kim off our hands as it was only a matter of time before things took a nose dive.
2 top 10 recruits in 20 plus two top transfers ( one only knows what would have happened if Kamara didn't tear her ACL). 1 top 10 recruit in 21 plus a couple of top transfers. Recruiting was just fine. Kim was using the portal to help supplement her team and keep it old. Men's BB has 5 of it's top 7 players as transfers and it's viewed as visionary and keeping your team old. Kim uses the transfer portal and it's viewed as recruiting is falling off. It's really comical.IowaBear said:sicem45 said:4 final fours in 20+ years despite massive talent and resource advantages is the definition of underachievement. She is also stagnant, refusing to adapt to changes in the game today. Her offense was very stale which honestly was a giant reason for many of the early exits from the NCAAT. If they were just mediocre from shooting from 3/midrange, they would have advanced to a few more final fours and maybe have another title.baylor1984 said:
How in the hell do you underachieve when you have the second most NC amongst active coaches and the 3rd most all time ? The WBB at Baylor was crap before she came. She built the program and won her first championship in year 5 as a 3 seed defeating 3 number 1's in the process. By winning that early on in her HC coaching career Kim raised expectations way above from what they should have been. Could she have won more NC with Griner, yes she could have but she also won a couple in 05 and 19 with lesser talent. I'll be damn happy in CNC can win 3 NC over the next 20 years.
The program was about to take a nose dive once the senior class left as Kim stopped recruiting after that 2018 class. She resorted to transfer portal as she was lazy on the recruiting trail. Hiring Rice to replace Toyelle Wilson was a giant mistake from a recruiting perspective.
I thank LSU for taking Kim off our hands as it was only a matter of time before things took a nose dive.
A program that just won a Natty 2 years ago and was a horrific call from most likely going back to back was about to nose dive ? You're a special kind of stupid. Your hatred for Kim creates irrational thoughts