Mothra said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Nice to see Baghdad Bob still has an audience ...

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You are still here too! We get along great as long as we agree with everything you say! If not, out come the names. So much like your MAGA Master...

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Ahh, that old lie.

Sorry but that misses the ballpark, boyo.

I'm not voting for Trump, I just won't gang-rape him like you want to do.

That doesn't make me 'MAGA', but it says some sad things about you.

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Come on, as much as you defend him. You gotta crush on old orange, don't ya? It's ok. Sometimes when you love someone they can do no wrong, even though you know they do...

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I see you are still in denial.

Lying about me is your way of pretending you have done nothing wrong.

Please tell me Biden sent you a check for your posts, I'd hate to think you crap on the US for free.

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He offered an opinion of your often times snarky, condescending and boorish behavior when you disagree with another poster. You may not agree with his opinion, but to call him a liar because he holds that opinion demonstrates pretty clearly that a) you have no clue what a lie actually is, and b) you might have the biggest blind spot of any poster on this board.

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What's funny is how much of what you just posted, applies to you Mothra.

Bet you will deny that too, huh?

Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Nice to see Baghdad Bob still has an audience ...

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You are still here too! We get along great as long as we agree with everything you say! If not, out come the names. So much like your MAGA Master...

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Ahh, that old lie.

Sorry but that misses the ballpark, boyo.

I'm not voting for Trump, I just won't gang-rape him like you want to do.

That doesn't make me 'MAGA', but it says some sad things about you.

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The knuckle-dragging posts by the tribal binaries than cannot apply critical thinking gets exhausting. Not wanting to become a fascist-style banana republic is not related to one's love of Trump. Some things are more important than immature political opinions.

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Yeah, allowing a candidate to substitute electors of his choosing after losing screams sophisticated Democracy! "No Banana Republic Here"...

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i would ask you if you would have arrested Stacey Abrams but your too chicken **** to answer.

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"No one puts Baby in the corner."

--Patrick Swayze

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Nice to see Baghdad Bob still has an audience ...

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You are still here too! We get along great as long as we agree with everything you say! If not, out come the names. So much like your MAGA Master...

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Ahh, that old lie.

Sorry but that misses the ballpark, boyo.

I'm not voting for Trump, I just won't gang-rape him like you want to do.

That doesn't make me 'MAGA', but it says some sad things about you.

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The knuckle-dragging posts by the tribal binaries than cannot apply critical thinking gets exhausting. Not wanting to become a fascist-style banana republic is not related to one's love of Trump. Some things are more important than immature political opinions.

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Yeah, allowing a candidate to substitute electors of his choosing after losing screams sophisticated Democracy! "No Banana Republic Here"...

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i would ask you if you would have arrested Stacey Abrams but your too chicken **** to answer.

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"No one puts Baby in the corner."

--Patrick Swayze

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This is the response of the month...

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whiterock said:

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sombear said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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When you depend on the NY Times to sell your argument, you don't really have a good argument.

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exactly. Article describes completely lawful efforts to engage in politics and win an election, to include legal theory to support such.

People file lawsuits all the time knowing full well they are not likely to win...... Sometimes the objective is legal. Sometimes it is political. Sometimes it is both. And losing does not one a criminal make.

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Disagree with you on this one. He told his VP, in his chain of command, to accept alternate electors against legal counsel. Pence's Attorneys and White House Counsel said it was not legal. Yet, Trump and his surrogates pushed on at multiple levels after the election was over. That is beyond politics, that is downright coup area.
He also had legal advice that it was a viable plan.... And Pence went along with it until the last minute.

Since with Trump we all have to believe that he is speaking metaphorically, I find it more likely he found the power of being US President more enticing than money and was willing to do ANYTHING to keep it. That to me is more probable than he was speaking metaphorically, playing master-level political strategy.

That is not even going into the Georgia "find me votes" comments and strong-arming.
Noting illegal about pointing out that a more thorough adjudication of mail-in votes would possibly/likely change the outcome. Remember, the margins were, statistically speaking, razor thin. Would have been very easy to find 12k questionable ballots worthy of disqualification. See Florida 2000 and hanging chads for how to execute the program.

The guy is a stupid, loose cannon and gets what he deserves. He is on tape saying "find me 11k votes". Same with the Ukraine impeachment quid pro quo in exchange for investigating Biden. The guy continued to break the law and rely on everyone to believe he is speaking metaphorically. Well, it bit him here. Because words matter and he is dead to rights when taking at the letter of what he says to overturn an election he knew he lost.
False dilemma. Speaking plain truth may be inconvenient, but it is still truth. We now know conclusively that Biden got rich off of bribes from Ukraine and that Trump's phone call to Ukraine on the matter showed good stewardship of US taxpayer dollars.

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Let me say the inconvenient part cleary: it is not illegal to try to use legal procedures to overturn an election you know/suspect you actually lost. Gore literally did that in Florida in 2020. He kept counting Democrat counties only, knowing that the statistical certainty that any errors would fall in his favor might close the gap. And it would have if SCOTUS hadn't stepped in and stopped the re-counting (harvesting of ballot errors). Dems knew what they were doing.

Gore was stopped the same way Trump was stopped = by checks and balances. The system worked.

Democrats understand very clearly that the election isn't won until you take the oath of office. Challenging the results, to including using legal theories that have never before been tried, is not insurrection. It's liberty. You have the right to keep fighting until your opponent says "so help me God."

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Whoa. This was not a re-count of one State with a 200 vote difference. Trump wanted Pence to throw out legally submitted State electors in favor of alternates that favored him. The two are not in the same galaxy!

Razor thin? Biden had over 300 electors! Trump needed to "find" votes in multiple state. This was not a Trump/Gore.

False dilemma? You can't just blurt out statements like fine me 11k votes OR investigate Joe Biden and you will receive aid! On tape. You can poo-poo it as a non-issue, but he set himself up for the impeachment and his comments are why he is going to be indicted in GA. He wonders why he is in Court!!! He is a stupid, loose cannon. You say it is OK to play politics and try anything to win an election and then get butt-hurt when Trump is tried for his own words!

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a 2500 vote difference in FL vs a 11k vote difference in GA. (and comparable margins in other states). That is not a different universe. In FL 2000, there were two slates of FL electors standing ready to go until SCOTUS issued its final ruling WEEKS after the general election concluded. Highly analogous. and nobody alleged insurrection then.

There is law for process on post-election certification (or not) of every elected official. In close elections, the losing party attempts to stop certification, and/or to reverse certification. Nothing remarkable about any of that. Happens every election. What's unique about electors is that there actually are TWO sets of electors elected on the ballot. So it's not like Trump conjured this all up (which is what Dems are trying to portray). He was contesting the election results the way election results are contested. Democrats just didn't like it, and were highly defensive because they had much to be defensive about.

A thorough recounting of GA mail-in votes from Fulton Co (a selective recount ala what Gore demanded in 2000) would have reversed the results of the GA election.....a near mathematical certainty. Throwing out ballots with obvious errors would have had the effect of removing Biden votes at a rate exceeding 4-1. But Ga officials refused to do it. Trump was right to be livid with anger.

Dude. You are not thinking clearly on this point.....

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Fulton conducted hand and machine recounts.

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They did not look at signatures on mail in ballots......

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The GOP-led audits did, and they did not find a single discrepancy

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LOL not a single discrepancy. can you not hear how silly you sound when you say that?

Oldbear83 said:

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Mothra said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Nice to see Baghdad Bob still has an audience ...

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You are still here too! We get along great as long as we agree with everything you say! If not, out come the names. So much like your MAGA Master...

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Ahh, that old lie.

Sorry but that misses the ballpark, boyo.

I'm not voting for Trump, I just won't gang-rape him like you want to do.

That doesn't make me 'MAGA', but it says some sad things about you.

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Come on, as much as you defend him. You gotta crush on old orange, don't ya? It's ok. Sometimes when you love someone they can do no wrong, even though you know they do...

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I see you are still in denial.

Lying about me is your way of pretending you have done nothing wrong.

Please tell me Biden sent you a check for your posts, I'd hate to think you crap on the US for free.

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He offered an opinion of your often times snarky, condescending and boorish behavior when you disagree with another poster. You may not agree with his opinion, but to call him a liar because he holds that opinion demonstrates pretty clearly that a) you have no clue what a lie actually is, and b) you might have the biggest blind spot of any poster on this board.

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What's funny is how much of what you just posted, applies to you Mothra.

Bet you will deny that too, huh?

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No, I will call you a liar, just like you do.

We simply disagree.

Mothra said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Mothra said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Nice to see Baghdad Bob still has an audience ...

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You are still here too! We get along great as long as we agree with everything you say! If not, out come the names. So much like your MAGA Master...

---

Ahh, that old lie.

Sorry but that misses the ballpark, boyo.

I'm not voting for Trump, I just won't gang-rape him like you want to do.

That doesn't make me 'MAGA', but it says some sad things about you.

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Come on, as much as you defend him. You gotta crush on old orange, don't ya? It's ok. Sometimes when you love someone they can do no wrong, even though you know they do...

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I see you are still in denial.

Lying about me is your way of pretending you have done nothing wrong.

Please tell me Biden sent you a check for your posts, I'd hate to think you crap on the US for free.

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He offered an opinion of your often times snarky, condescending and boorish behavior when you disagree with another poster. You may not agree with his opinion, but to call him a liar because he holds that opinion demonstrates pretty clearly that a) you have no clue what a lie actually is, and b) you might have the biggest blind spot of any poster on this board.

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What's funny is how much of what you just posted, applies to you Mothra.

Bet you will deny that too, huh?

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No, I will call you a liar, just like you do.

We simply disagree.

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Pooooooooooor Mothra.

sombear said:

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whiterock said:

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sombear said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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When you depend on the NY Times to sell your argument, you don't really have a good argument.

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exactly. Article describes completely lawful efforts to engage in politics and win an election, to include legal theory to support such.

People file lawsuits all the time knowing full well they are not likely to win...... Sometimes the objective is legal. Sometimes it is political. Sometimes it is both. And losing does not one a criminal make.

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Disagree with you on this one. He told his VP, in his chain of command, to accept alternate electors against legal counsel. Pence's Attorneys and White House Counsel said it was not legal. Yet, Trump and his surrogates pushed on at multiple levels after the election was over. That is beyond politics, that is downright coup area.
He also had legal advice that it was a viable plan.... And Pence went along with it until the last minute.

Since with Trump we all have to believe that he is speaking metaphorically, I find it more likely he found the power of being US President more enticing than money and was willing to do ANYTHING to keep it. That to me is more probable than he was speaking metaphorically, playing master-level political strategy.

That is not even going into the Georgia "find me votes" comments and strong-arming.
Noting illegal about pointing out that a more thorough adjudication of mail-in votes would possibly/likely change the outcome. Remember, the margins were, statistically speaking, razor thin. Would have been very easy to find 12k questionable ballots worthy of disqualification. See Florida 2000 and hanging chads for how to execute the program.

The guy is a stupid, loose cannon and gets what he deserves. He is on tape saying "find me 11k votes". Same with the Ukraine impeachment quid pro quo in exchange for investigating Biden. The guy continued to break the law and rely on everyone to believe he is speaking metaphorically. Well, it bit him here. Because words matter and he is dead to rights when taking at the letter of what he says to overturn an election he knew he lost.
False dilemma. Speaking plain truth may be inconvenient, but it is still truth. We now know conclusively that Biden got rich off of bribes from Ukraine and that Trump's phone call to Ukraine on the matter showed good stewardship of US taxpayer dollars.

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Let me say the inconvenient part cleary: it is not illegal to try to use legal procedures to overturn an election you know/suspect you actually lost. Gore literally did that in Florida in 2020. He kept counting Democrat counties only, knowing that the statistical certainty that any errors would fall in his favor might close the gap. And it would have if SCOTUS hadn't stepped in and stopped the re-counting (harvesting of ballot errors). Dems knew what they were doing.

Gore was stopped the same way Trump was stopped = by checks and balances. The system worked.

Democrats understand very clearly that the election isn't won until you take the oath of office. Challenging the results, to including using legal theories that have never before been tried, is not insurrection. It's liberty. You have the right to keep fighting until your opponent says "so help me God."

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Whoa. This was not a re-count of one State with a 200 vote difference. Trump wanted Pence to throw out legally submitted State electors in favor of alternates that favored him. The two are not in the same galaxy!

Razor thin? Biden had over 300 electors! Trump needed to "find" votes in multiple state. This was not a Trump/Gore.

False dilemma? You can't just blurt out statements like fine me 11k votes OR investigate Joe Biden and you will receive aid! On tape. You can poo-poo it as a non-issue, but he set himself up for the impeachment and his comments are why he is going to be indicted in GA. He wonders why he is in Court!!! He is a stupid, loose cannon. You say it is OK to play politics and try anything to win an election and then get butt-hurt when Trump is tried for his own words!

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a 2500 vote difference in FL vs a 11k vote difference in GA. (and comparable margins in other states). That is not a different universe. In FL 2000, there were two slates of FL electors standing ready to go until SCOTUS issued its final ruling WEEKS after the general election concluded. Highly analogous. and nobody alleged insurrection then.

There is law for process on post-election certification (or not) of every elected official. In close elections, the losing party attempts to stop certification, and/or to reverse certification. Nothing remarkable about any of that. Happens every election. What's unique about electors is that there actually are TWO sets of electors elected on the ballot. So it's not like Trump conjured this all up (which is what Dems are trying to portray). He was contesting the election results the way election results are contested. Democrats just didn't like it, and were highly defensive because they had much to be defensive about.

A thorough recounting of GA mail-in votes from Fulton Co (a selective recount ala what Gore demanded in 2000) would have reversed the results of the GA election.....a near mathematical certainty. Throwing out ballots with obvious errors would have had the effect of removing Biden votes at a rate exceeding 4-1. But Ga officials refused to do it. Trump was right to be livid with anger.

Dude. You are not thinking clearly on this point.....

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Fulton conducted hand and machine recounts.

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They did not look at signatures on mail in ballots......

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The GOP-led audits did, and they did not find a single discrepancy

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news to me, i never heard of a single signature match or even a count of envelopes vs mail in ballots in GA..

We dont need to talk about the significant number of chain of custody issues they had with drop boxes

whiterock said:

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sombear said:

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whiterock said:

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sombear said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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When you depend on the NY Times to sell your argument, you don't really have a good argument.

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exactly. Article describes completely lawful efforts to engage in politics and win an election, to include legal theory to support such.

People file lawsuits all the time knowing full well they are not likely to win...... Sometimes the objective is legal. Sometimes it is political. Sometimes it is both. And losing does not one a criminal make.

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Disagree with you on this one. He told his VP, in his chain of command, to accept alternate electors against legal counsel. Pence's Attorneys and White House Counsel said it was not legal. Yet, Trump and his surrogates pushed on at multiple levels after the election was over. That is beyond politics, that is downright coup area.
He also had legal advice that it was a viable plan.... And Pence went along with it until the last minute.

Since with Trump we all have to believe that he is speaking metaphorically, I find it more likely he found the power of being US President more enticing than money and was willing to do ANYTHING to keep it. That to me is more probable than he was speaking metaphorically, playing master-level political strategy.

That is not even going into the Georgia "find me votes" comments and strong-arming.
Noting illegal about pointing out that a more thorough adjudication of mail-in votes would possibly/likely change the outcome. Remember, the margins were, statistically speaking, razor thin. Would have been very easy to find 12k questionable ballots worthy of disqualification. See Florida 2000 and hanging chads for how to execute the program.

The guy is a stupid, loose cannon and gets what he deserves. He is on tape saying "find me 11k votes". Same with the Ukraine impeachment quid pro quo in exchange for investigating Biden. The guy continued to break the law and rely on everyone to believe he is speaking metaphorically. Well, it bit him here. Because words matter and he is dead to rights when taking at the letter of what he says to overturn an election he knew he lost.
False dilemma. Speaking plain truth may be inconvenient, but it is still truth. We now know conclusively that Biden got rich off of bribes from Ukraine and that Trump's phone call to Ukraine on the matter showed good stewardship of US taxpayer dollars.

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Let me say the inconvenient part cleary: it is not illegal to try to use legal procedures to overturn an election you know/suspect you actually lost. Gore literally did that in Florida in 2020. He kept counting Democrat counties only, knowing that the statistical certainty that any errors would fall in his favor might close the gap. And it would have if SCOTUS hadn't stepped in and stopped the re-counting (harvesting of ballot errors). Dems knew what they were doing.

Gore was stopped the same way Trump was stopped = by checks and balances. The system worked.

Democrats understand very clearly that the election isn't won until you take the oath of office. Challenging the results, to including using legal theories that have never before been tried, is not insurrection. It's liberty. You have the right to keep fighting until your opponent says "so help me God."

---

Whoa. This was not a re-count of one State with a 200 vote difference. Trump wanted Pence to throw out legally submitted State electors in favor of alternates that favored him. The two are not in the same galaxy!

Razor thin? Biden had over 300 electors! Trump needed to "find" votes in multiple state. This was not a Trump/Gore.

False dilemma? You can't just blurt out statements like fine me 11k votes OR investigate Joe Biden and you will receive aid! On tape. You can poo-poo it as a non-issue, but he set himself up for the impeachment and his comments are why he is going to be indicted in GA. He wonders why he is in Court!!! He is a stupid, loose cannon. You say it is OK to play politics and try anything to win an election and then get butt-hurt when Trump is tried for his own words!

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a 2500 vote difference in FL vs a 11k vote difference in GA. (and comparable margins in other states). That is not a different universe. In FL 2000, there were two slates of FL electors standing ready to go until SCOTUS issued its final ruling WEEKS after the general election concluded. Highly analogous. and nobody alleged insurrection then.

There is law for process on post-election certification (or not) of every elected official. In close elections, the losing party attempts to stop certification, and/or to reverse certification. Nothing remarkable about any of that. Happens every election. What's unique about electors is that there actually are TWO sets of electors elected on the ballot. So it's not like Trump conjured this all up (which is what Dems are trying to portray). He was contesting the election results the way election results are contested. Democrats just didn't like it, and were highly defensive because they had much to be defensive about.

A thorough recounting of GA mail-in votes from Fulton Co (a selective recount ala what Gore demanded in 2000) would have reversed the results of the GA election.....a near mathematical certainty. Throwing out ballots with obvious errors would have had the effect of removing Biden votes at a rate exceeding 4-1. But Ga officials refused to do it. Trump was right to be livid with anger.

Dude. You are not thinking clearly on this point.....

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Fulton conducted hand and machine recounts.

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They did not look at signatures on mail in ballots......

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The GOP-led audits did, and they did not find a single discrepancy

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LOL not a single discrepancy. can you not hear how silly you sound when you say that?

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If you took the time to study Georgia's system, you wouldn't be surprised. It's 2-step verification. Of course, that does not necessarily mean zero issues, but there aren't material issues that would be discovered in a recount.

Oldbear83 said:

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Mothra said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Mothra said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Nice to see Baghdad Bob still has an audience ...

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You are still here too! We get along great as long as we agree with everything you say! If not, out come the names. So much like your MAGA Master...

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Ahh, that old lie.

Sorry but that misses the ballpark, boyo.

I'm not voting for Trump, I just won't gang-rape him like you want to do.

That doesn't make me 'MAGA', but it says some sad things about you.

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Come on, as much as you defend him. You gotta crush on old orange, don't ya? It's ok. Sometimes when you love someone they can do no wrong, even though you know they do...

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I see you are still in denial.

Lying about me is your way of pretending you have done nothing wrong.

Please tell me Biden sent you a check for your posts, I'd hate to think you crap on the US for free.

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He offered an opinion of your often times snarky, condescending and boorish behavior when you disagree with another poster. You may not agree with his opinion, but to call him a liar because he holds that opinion demonstrates pretty clearly that a) you have no clue what a lie actually is, and b) you might have the biggest blind spot of any poster on this board.

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What's funny is how much of what you just posted, applies to you Mothra.

Bet you will deny that too, huh?

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No, I will call you a liar, just like you do.

We simply disagree.

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Pooooooooooor Mothra.

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Liar, liar pants on fire! Flailing again! Swing and a miss!

Sorry, was trying some of your putdowns. They're not as ridiculously hilarious when I do them.

Mothra said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Mothra said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Mothra said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Nice to see Baghdad Bob still has an audience ...

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You are still here too! We get along great as long as we agree with everything you say! If not, out come the names. So much like your MAGA Master...

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Ahh, that old lie.

Sorry but that misses the ballpark, boyo.

I'm not voting for Trump, I just won't gang-rape him like you want to do.

That doesn't make me 'MAGA', but it says some sad things about you.

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Come on, as much as you defend him. You gotta crush on old orange, don't ya? It's ok. Sometimes when you love someone they can do no wrong, even though you know they do...

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I see you are still in denial.

Lying about me is your way of pretending you have done nothing wrong.

Please tell me Biden sent you a check for your posts, I'd hate to think you crap on the US for free.

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He offered an opinion of your often times snarky, condescending and boorish behavior when you disagree with another poster. You may not agree with his opinion, but to call him a liar because he holds that opinion demonstrates pretty clearly that a) you have no clue what a lie actually is, and b) you might have the biggest blind spot of any poster on this board.

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What's funny is how much of what you just posted, applies to you Mothra.

Bet you will deny that too, huh?

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No, I will call you a liar, just like you do.

We simply disagree.

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Pooooooooooor Mothra.

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Liar, liar pants on fire! Flailing again! Swing and a miss!

Sorry, was trying some of your putdowns. They're not as ridiculously hilarious when I do them.

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Of course they. First, because 'liar liar pants on fire' is not something I have ever said, and second, when I pointed out your swings and misses, I was pointing out actual swings and misses, where in your case you see to be flailing wildly and hoping something sticks.

By the way, you should wash your hands before you eat, given the quality of your recent offerings.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Nice to see Baghdad Bob still has an audience ...

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You are still here too! We get along great as long as we agree with everything you say! If not, out come the names. So much like your MAGA Master...

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Ahh, that old lie.

Sorry but that misses the ballpark, boyo.

I'm not voting for Trump, I just won't gang-rape him like you want to do.

That doesn't make me 'MAGA', but it says some sad things about you.

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The knuckle-dragging posts by the tribal binaries than cannot apply critical thinking gets exhausting. Not wanting to become a fascist-style banana republic is not related to one's love of Trump. Some things are more important than immature political opinions.

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Yeah, allowing a candidate to substitute electors of his choosing after losing screams sophisticated Democracy! "No Banana Republic Here"...

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i would ask you if you would have arrested Stacey Abrams but your too chicken **** to answer.

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What are you talking about??? What has Stacey Abrams done to be arrested? I guess I missed a press cycle? Fill me in on what she did and I will tell you

As for the chicken **** part, chicken **** of what? Your scathing wit? You guys really take yourself a too seriously. Don't tell me your father questioned you once, once...

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Mothra said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Mothra said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Mothra said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Nice to see Baghdad Bob still has an audience ...

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You are still here too! We get along great as long as we agree with everything you say! If not, out come the names. So much like your MAGA Master...

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Ahh, that old lie.

Sorry but that misses the ballpark, boyo.

I'm not voting for Trump, I just won't gang-rape him like you want to do.

That doesn't make me 'MAGA', but it says some sad things about you.

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Come on, as much as you defend him. You gotta crush on old orange, don't ya? It's ok. Sometimes when you love someone they can do no wrong, even though you know they do...

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I see you are still in denial.

Lying about me is your way of pretending you have done nothing wrong.

Please tell me Biden sent you a check for your posts, I'd hate to think you crap on the US for free.

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He offered an opinion of your often times snarky, condescending and boorish behavior when you disagree with another poster. You may not agree with his opinion, but to call him a liar because he holds that opinion demonstrates pretty clearly that a) you have no clue what a lie actually is, and b) you might have the biggest blind spot of any poster on this board.

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What's funny is how much of what you just posted, applies to you Mothra.

Bet you will deny that too, huh?

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No, I will call you a liar, just like you do.

We simply disagree.

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Pooooooooooor Mothra.

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Liar, liar pants on fire! Flailing again! Swing and a miss!

Sorry, was trying some of your putdowns. They're not as ridiculously hilarious when I do them.

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Of course they. First, because 'liar liar pants on fire' is not something I have ever said, and second, when I pointed out your swings and misses, I was pointing out actual swings and misses, where in your case you see to be flailing wildly and hoping something sticks.

By the way, you should wash your hands before you eat, given the quality of your recent offerings.

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Love the old man putdowns. Your name is apropos.

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Nice to see Baghdad Bob still has an audience ...

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You are still here too! We get along great as long as we agree with everything you say! If not, out come the names. So much like your MAGA Master...

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Ahh, that old lie.

Sorry but that misses the ballpark, boyo.

I'm not voting for Trump, I just won't gang-rape him like you want to do.

That doesn't make me 'MAGA', but it says some sad things about you.

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The knuckle-dragging posts by the tribal binaries than cannot apply critical thinking gets exhausting. Not wanting to become a fascist-style banana republic is not related to one's love of Trump. Some things are more important than immature political opinions.

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Yeah, allowing a candidate to substitute electors of his choosing after losing screams sophisticated Democracy! "No Banana Republic Here"...

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i would ask you if you would have arrested Stacey Abrams but your too chicken **** to answer.

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"No one puts Baby in the corner."

--Patrick Swayze

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Not that Stacey Abrams could fit in a corner, but I'll
mark that down as too chicken shiet to answer.

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Nice to see Baghdad Bob still has an audience ...

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You are still here too! We get along great as long as we agree with everything you say! If not, out come the names. So much like your MAGA Master...

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Ahh, that old lie.

Sorry but that misses the ballpark, boyo.

I'm not voting for Trump, I just won't gang-rape him like you want to do.

That doesn't make me 'MAGA', but it says some sad things about you.

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The knuckle-dragging posts by the tribal binaries than cannot apply critical thinking gets exhausting. Not wanting to become a fascist-style banana republic is not related to one's love of Trump. Some things are more important than immature political opinions.

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Yeah, allowing a candidate to substitute electors of his choosing after losing screams sophisticated Democracy! "No Banana Republic Here"...

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i would ask you if you would have arrested Stacey Abrams but your too chicken **** to answer.

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What are you talking about??? What has Stacey Abrams done to be arrested? I guess I missed a press cycle? Fill me in on what she did and I will tell you

As for the chicken **** part, chicken **** of what? Your scathing wit? You guys really take yourself a too seriously. Don't tell me your father questioned you once, once...

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she claimed an election was stolen you moron regard, which is for what Trump was arrested. I mean are you really this stupid or just playing regressive on TV?

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Nice to see Baghdad Bob still has an audience ...

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You are still here too! We get along great as long as we agree with everything you say! If not, out come the names. So much like your MAGA Master...

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Ahh, that old lie.

Sorry but that misses the ballpark, boyo.

I'm not voting for Trump, I just won't gang-rape him like you want to do.

That doesn't make me 'MAGA', but it says some sad things about you.

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The knuckle-dragging posts by the tribal binaries than cannot apply critical thinking gets exhausting. Not wanting to become a fascist-style banana republic is not related to one's love of Trump. Some things are more important than immature political opinions.

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Yeah, allowing a candidate to substitute electors of his choosing after losing screams sophisticated Democracy! "No Banana Republic Here"...

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i would ask you if you would have arrested Stacey Abrams but your too chicken **** to answer.

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What are you talking about??? What has Stacey Abrams done to be arrested? I guess I missed a press cycle? Fill me in on what she did and I will tell you

As for the chicken **** part, chicken **** of what? Your scathing wit? You guys really take yourself a too seriously. Don't tell me your father questioned you once, once...

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she claimed an election was stolen you moron regard, which is for what Trump was arrested. I mean are you really this stupid or just playing regressive on TV?

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Geez, you are stupid. Trump is not indicted for saying he won. He is indicted for what he did.

Trump was charged with conspiracy to defraud the United States, witness tampering, conspiracy against the rights of citizens, and obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding. None of those are 1st Amendment or based on him saying the elections was stolen. Get it?

FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Nice to see Baghdad Bob still has an audience ...

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You are still here too! We get along great as long as we agree with everything you say! If not, out come the names. So much like your MAGA Master...

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Ahh, that old lie.

Sorry but that misses the ballpark, boyo.

I'm not voting for Trump, I just won't gang-rape him like you want to do.

That doesn't make me 'MAGA', but it says some sad things about you.

---

The knuckle-dragging posts by the tribal binaries than cannot apply critical thinking gets exhausting. Not wanting to become a fascist-style banana republic is not related to one's love of Trump. Some things are more important than immature political opinions.

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Yeah, allowing a candidate to substitute electors of his choosing after losing screams sophisticated Democracy! "No Banana Republic Here"...

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i would ask you if you would have arrested Stacey Abrams but your too chicken **** to answer.

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What are you talking about??? What has Stacey Abrams done to be arrested? I guess I missed a press cycle? Fill me in on what she did and I will tell you

As for the chicken **** part, chicken **** of what? Your scathing wit? You guys really take yourself a too seriously. Don't tell me your father questioned you once, once...

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she claimed an election was stolen you moron regard, which is for what Trump was arrested. I mean are you really this stupid or just playing regressive on TV?

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Geez, you are stupid. Trump is not indicted for saying he won. He is indicted for what he did.

Trump was charged with conspiracy to defraud the United States, witness tampering, conspiracy against the rights of citizens, and obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding. None of those are 1st Amendment or based on him saying the elections was stolen. Get it?

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nope, maybe, nope, nope, and maybe..

Will be convicted on all counts in a beltway courtroom.

FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Nice to see Baghdad Bob still has an audience ...

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You are still here too! We get along great as long as we agree with everything you say! If not, out come the names. So much like your MAGA Master...

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Ahh, that old lie.

Sorry but that misses the ballpark, boyo.

I'm not voting for Trump, I just won't gang-rape him like you want to do.

That doesn't make me 'MAGA', but it says some sad things about you.

---

The knuckle-dragging posts by the tribal binaries than cannot apply critical thinking gets exhausting. Not wanting to become a fascist-style banana republic is not related to one's love of Trump. Some things are more important than immature political opinions.

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Yeah, allowing a candidate to substitute electors of his choosing after losing screams sophisticated Democracy! "No Banana Republic Here"...

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i would ask you if you would have arrested Stacey Abrams but your too chicken **** to answer.

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What are you talking about??? What has Stacey Abrams done to be arrested? I guess I missed a press cycle? Fill me in on what she did and I will tell you

As for the chicken **** part, chicken **** of what? Your scathing wit? You guys really take yourself a too seriously. Don't tell me your father questioned you once, once...

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she claimed an election was stolen you moron regard, which is for what Trump was arrested. I mean are you really this stupid or just playing regressive on TV?

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Geez, you are stupid. Trump is not indicted for saying he won. He is indicted for what he did.

Trump was charged with conspiracy to defraud the United States, witness tampering, conspiracy against the rights of citizens, and obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding. None of those are 1st Amendment or based on him saying the elections was stolen. Get it?

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Read the indictment. Turn off CNN you regarded mouthbreather. You're why people wanted literacy tests to vote.

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Oldbear83 said:

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Mothra said:

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Mothra said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Nice to see Baghdad Bob still has an audience ...

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You are still here too! We get along great as long as we agree with everything you say! If not, out come the names. So much like your MAGA Master...

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Ahh, that old lie.

Sorry but that misses the ballpark, boyo.

I'm not voting for Trump, I just won't gang-rape him like you want to do.

That doesn't make me 'MAGA', but it says some sad things about you.

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Come on, as much as you defend him. You gotta crush on old orange, don't ya? It's ok. Sometimes when you love someone they can do no wrong, even though you know they do...

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I see you are still in denial.

Lying about me is your way of pretending you have done nothing wrong.

Please tell me Biden sent you a check for your posts, I'd hate to think you crap on the US for free.

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He offered an opinion of your often times snarky, condescending and boorish behavior when you disagree with another poster. You may not agree with his opinion, but to call him a liar because he holds that opinion demonstrates pretty clearly that a) you have no clue what a lie actually is, and b) you might have the biggest blind spot of any poster on this board.

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What's funny is how much of what you just posted, applies to you Mothra.

Bet you will deny that too, huh?

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No, I will call you a liar, just like you do.

We simply disagree.

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Pooooooooooor Mothra.

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Liar, liar pants on fire! Flailing again! Swing and a miss!

Sorry, was trying some of your putdowns. They're not as ridiculously hilarious when I do them.

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Of course they. First, because 'liar liar pants on fire' is not something I have ever said, and second, when I pointed out your swings and misses, I was pointing out actual swings and misses, where in your case you see to be flailing wildly and hoping something sticks.

By the way, you should wash your hands before you eat, given the quality of your recent offerings.

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Love the old man putdowns. Your name is apropos.

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You should call yourself 'Daffy', you duck so much.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Nice to see Baghdad Bob still has an audience ...

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You are still here too! We get along great as long as we agree with everything you say! If not, out come the names. So much like your MAGA Master...

---

Ahh, that old lie.

Sorry but that misses the ballpark, boyo.

I'm not voting for Trump, I just won't gang-rape him like you want to do.

That doesn't make me 'MAGA', but it says some sad things about you.

---

The knuckle-dragging posts by the tribal binaries than cannot apply critical thinking gets exhausting. Not wanting to become a fascist-style banana republic is not related to one's love of Trump. Some things are more important than immature political opinions.

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Yeah, allowing a candidate to substitute electors of his choosing after losing screams sophisticated Democracy! "No Banana Republic Here"...

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i would ask you if you would have arrested Stacey Abrams but your too chicken **** to answer.

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What are you talking about??? What has Stacey Abrams done to be arrested? I guess I missed a press cycle? Fill me in on what she did and I will tell you

As for the chicken **** part, chicken **** of what? Your scathing wit? You guys really take yourself a too seriously. Don't tell me your father questioned you once, once...

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she claimed an election was stolen you moron regard, which is for what Trump was arrested. I mean are you really this stupid or just playing regressive on TV?

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Geez, you are stupid. Trump is not indicted for saying he won. He is indicted for what he did.

Trump was charged with conspiracy to defraud the United States, witness tampering, conspiracy against the rights of citizens, and obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding. None of those are 1st Amendment or based on him saying the elections was stolen. Get it?

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Read the indictment. Turn off CNN you regarded mouthbreather. You're why people wanted literacy tests to vote.

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You keep main-lining Breitbart and Newsmax, they may be right sometime in the future. Even better, do what Master Trump tells you, we'll converse from jail.

Donald said it's legal. It's the peoples house, they can't keep us out, Pence can choose any electors he wants.... Geez, you are a gullible idiot.

How many from Jan 6th were found guilty? Oh yeah, it's all a left wing, deep state conspiracy. Yeah, that's it. These people did nothing wrong. You went to Baylor? They gave you a Diploma? What year, so I can tell people I graduated before you when they actually taught.

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Nice to see Baghdad Bob still has an audience ...

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You are still here too! We get along great as long as we agree with everything you say! If not, out come the names. So much like your MAGA Master...

---

Ahh, that old lie.

Sorry but that misses the ballpark, boyo.

I'm not voting for Trump, I just won't gang-rape him like you want to do.

That doesn't make me 'MAGA', but it says some sad things about you.

---

The knuckle-dragging posts by the tribal binaries than cannot apply critical thinking gets exhausting. Not wanting to become a fascist-style banana republic is not related to one's love of Trump. Some things are more important than immature political opinions.

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Yeah, allowing a candidate to substitute electors of his choosing after losing screams sophisticated Democracy! "No Banana Republic Here"...

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i would ask you if you would have arrested Stacey Abrams but your too chicken **** to answer.

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What are you talking about??? What has Stacey Abrams done to be arrested? I guess I missed a press cycle? Fill me in on what she did and I will tell you

As for the chicken **** part, chicken **** of what? Your scathing wit? You guys really take yourself a too seriously. Don't tell me your father questioned you once, once...

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she claimed an election was stolen you moron regard, which is for what Trump was arrested. I mean are you really this stupid or just playing regressive on TV?

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Geez, you are stupid. Trump is not indicted for saying he won. He is indicted for what he did.

Trump was charged with conspiracy to defraud the United States, witness tampering, conspiracy against the rights of citizens, and obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding. None of those are 1st Amendment or based on him saying the elections was stolen. Get it?

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nope, maybe, nope, nope, and maybe..

Will be convicted on all counts in a beltway courtroom.

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Trump Gave Them a Sword


Is he being unjustly pursued? Are his legal woes his own fault? Yes and yes.
Donald Trump's legal problems just keep mounting. He's been indicted three times: twice by a federal special prosecutor in separate cases in Miami and D.C., and once by the Manhattan district attorney. A fourth indictment may be on the way soon from the district attorney in Atlanta. He's facing a civil fraud suit by the attorney general of New York. He's already been found liable for sexual battery and defamation in a civil lawsuit by E. Jean Carroll in federal court in Manhattan.
Is Trump being unjustly pursued? Are his legal woes his own fault? Yes and yes.
The overzealousness of Trump's antagonists is undeniable. One of the bedrock values of our rule-of-law system is supposed to be equal justice under law. That means the rich, the famous, and the powerful should get the same law as the poor and the obscure neither less justice nor more. It means that the law knows no political party or faction.
Human nature being what it is, real justice rarely conforms perfectly to the ideal, but we still expect prosecuting authorities to labor to appear fair, impartial, and evenhanded. No fair-minded observer would conclude that this is how the prosecuting authorities have treated our 45th president.
Trump has been under essentially perpetual investigation since he won the 2016 election, largely by people who refused to accept its outcome. He was dogged for two years by Robert Mueller's Russiagate probe, which arose out of FBI misconduct in obtaining warrants from the FISA court on the basis of presenting dubious evidence from foreign cutouts for the Hillary Clinton campaign. In spite of Mueller's pedigree as a gray eminence of law enforcement under past Republican administrations, the investigation didn't improve from there, chasing a nonexistent crime (collusion) for which Mueller never developed solid evidence.
The Manhattan district attorney's office, under Cyrus Vance Jr., launched a criminal investigation into Trump's business practices. Vance consulted a "brain trust" of people outside his office, including veterans of the Mueller probe, whose background was not in pursuing the topics of Vance's investigation but in pursuing the man. He hired two outside prosecutors just to investigate Trump; one of them came out of retirement to work without pay just to get the Donald. In 2021, Vance indicted the Trump Organization and its CFO, Allen Weisselberg, for comparatively minor tax charges involving Weisselberg's compensation. When Vance's successor, Alvin Bragg, declined to bring charges involving an alleged fraudulent overstatement of Trump's business assets, however, the two outside prosecutors quit publicly, and one of them released a public memo and a book that argued for charging Trump.
New York attorney general Letitia James repackaged the failed criminal charges as a civil fraud case, in spite of the problem that dogged the criminal prosecution: Even if Trump lied to the big banks that lent him money, they never lost a penny on the deal, and they were sophisticated financial institutions that knew what kind of man they were lending to.
https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2023/08/28/trump-gave-them-a-sword/

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Oldbear83 said:

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Nice to see Baghdad Bob still has an audience ...

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You are still here too! We get along great as long as we agree with everything you say! If not, out come the names. So much like your MAGA Master...

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Ahh, that old lie.

Sorry but that misses the ballpark, boyo.

I'm not voting for Trump, I just won't gang-rape him like you want to do.

That doesn't make me 'MAGA', but it says some sad things about you.

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Come on, as much as you defend him. You gotta crush on old orange, don't ya? It's ok. Sometimes when you love someone they can do no wrong, even though you know they do...

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I see you are still in denial.

Lying about me is your way of pretending you have done nothing wrong.

Please tell me Biden sent you a check for your posts, I'd hate to think you crap on the US for free.

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He offered an opinion of your often times snarky, condescending and boorish behavior when you disagree with another poster. You may not agree with his opinion, but to call him a liar because he holds that opinion demonstrates pretty clearly that a) you have no clue what a lie actually is, and b) you might have the biggest blind spot of any poster on this board.

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What's funny is how much of what you just posted, applies to you Mothra.

Bet you will deny that too, huh?

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No, I will call you a liar, just like you do.

We simply disagree.

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Pooooooooooor Mothra.

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Liar, liar pants on fire! Flailing again! Swing and a miss!

Sorry, was trying some of your putdowns. They're not as ridiculously hilarious when I do them.

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Of course they. First, because 'liar liar pants on fire' is not something I have ever said, and second, when I pointed out your swings and misses, I was pointing out actual swings and misses, where in your case you see to be flailing wildly and hoping something sticks.

By the way, you should wash your hands before you eat, given the quality of your recent offerings.

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Love the old man putdowns. Your name is apropos.

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You should call yourself 'Daffy', you duck so much.

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You should call yourself dumb@ss because, well. you know.

FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Nice to see Baghdad Bob still has an audience ...

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You are still here too! We get along great as long as we agree with everything you say! If not, out come the names. So much like your MAGA Master...

---

Ahh, that old lie.

Sorry but that misses the ballpark, boyo.

I'm not voting for Trump, I just won't gang-rape him like you want to do.

That doesn't make me 'MAGA', but it says some sad things about you.

---

The knuckle-dragging posts by the tribal binaries than cannot apply critical thinking gets exhausting. Not wanting to become a fascist-style banana republic is not related to one's love of Trump. Some things are more important than immature political opinions.

---

Yeah, allowing a candidate to substitute electors of his choosing after losing screams sophisticated Democracy! "No Banana Republic Here"...

---

i would ask you if you would have arrested Stacey Abrams but your too chicken **** to answer.

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What are you talking about??? What has Stacey Abrams done to be arrested? I guess I missed a press cycle? Fill me in on what she did and I will tell you

As for the chicken **** part, chicken **** of what? Your scathing wit? You guys really take yourself a too seriously. Don't tell me your father questioned you once, once...

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she claimed an election was stolen you moron regard, which is for what Trump was arrested. I mean are you really this stupid or just playing regressive on TV?

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Geez, you are stupid. Trump is not indicted for saying he won. He is indicted for what he did.

Trump was charged with conspiracy to defraud the United States, witness tampering, conspiracy against the rights of citizens, and obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding. None of those are 1st Amendment or based on him saying the elections was stolen. Get it?

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Read the indictment. Turn off CNN you regarded mouthbreather. You're why people wanted literacy tests to vote.

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You keep main-lining Breitbart and Newsmax, they may be right sometime in the future. Even better, do what Master Trump tells you, we'll converse from jail.

Donald said it's legal. It's the peoples house, they can't keep us out, Pence can choose any electors he wants.... Geez, you are a gullible idiot.

How many from Jan 6th were found guilty? Oh yeah, it's all a left wing, deep state conspiracy. Yeah, that's it. These people did nothing wrong. You went to Baylor? They gave you a Diploma? What year, so I can tell people I graduated before you when they actually taught.

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Notice I keep discussing primary facts and evidence, and you keep discussing me.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Nice to see Baghdad Bob still has an audience ...

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You are still here too! We get along great as long as we agree with everything you say! If not, out come the names. So much like your MAGA Master...

---

Ahh, that old lie.

Sorry but that misses the ballpark, boyo.

I'm not voting for Trump, I just won't gang-rape him like you want to do.

That doesn't make me 'MAGA', but it says some sad things about you.

---

The knuckle-dragging posts by the tribal binaries than cannot apply critical thinking gets exhausting. Not wanting to become a fascist-style banana republic is not related to one's love of Trump. Some things are more important than immature political opinions.

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Yeah, allowing a candidate to substitute electors of his choosing after losing screams sophisticated Democracy! "No Banana Republic Here"...

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i would ask you if you would have arrested Stacey Abrams but your too chicken **** to answer.

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What are you talking about??? What has Stacey Abrams done to be arrested? I guess I missed a press cycle? Fill me in on what she did and I will tell you

As for the chicken **** part, chicken **** of what? Your scathing wit? You guys really take yourself a too seriously. Don't tell me your father questioned you once, once...

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she claimed an election was stolen you moron regard, which is for what Trump was arrested. I mean are you really this stupid or just playing regressive on TV?

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Geez, you are stupid. Trump is not indicted for saying he won. He is indicted for what he did.

Trump was charged with conspiracy to defraud the United States, witness tampering, conspiracy against the rights of citizens, and obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding. None of those are 1st Amendment or based on him saying the elections was stolen. Get it?

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Read the indictment. Turn off CNN you regarded mouthbreather. You're why people wanted literacy tests to vote.

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You keep main-lining Breitbart and Newsmax, they may be right sometime in the future. Even better, do what Master Trump tells you, we'll converse from jail.

Donald said it's legal. It's the peoples house, they can't keep us out, Pence can choose any electors he wants.... Geez, you are a gullible idiot.

How many from Jan 6th were found guilty? Oh yeah, it's all a left wing, deep state conspiracy. Yeah, that's it. These people did nothing wrong. You went to Baylor? They gave you a Diploma? What year, so I can tell people I graduated before you when they actually taught.

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Notice I keep discussing primary facts and evidence, and you keep discussing me.

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What? You went personal first , I thought you wanted to do the cut down fight routine...

Ok, I laid out the facts of what Trump did and that it was not 1st Amendment. He tried to change the election results in 7 states with fake electors. Overthrowing an election is illegal, it is legal not political. As we are finding out. If he is acquited, I will be the first to give you props. Don't think that is happening and it has nothing to do with a conspiracy.

You don't get indicted for multiple states, several being Republican, without it being a little bit of a him issue.

"You don't get indicted for multiple states, several being Republican"

The problem is not the state of Georgia, it's Fulton County. Pretending Fulton County represents Republican values and politics is dishonest.

We should all be able to agree that Trump has said some dumb things and is confrontational. It's also plain from the texts of the indictments that this is a Left-designed smear campaign.

Orange Man Bad has been changed to Orange Man hates America Because Biden Needs the Distraction.

And this from someone claiming to hate ad hominem posts.

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"You don't get indicted for multiple states, several being Republican"

The problem is not the state of Georgia, it's Fulton County. Pretending Fulton County represents Republican values and politics is dishonest.

We should all be able to agree that Trump has said some dumb things and is confrontational. It's also plain from the texts of the indictments that this is a Left-designed smear campaign.

Orange Man Bad has been changed to Orange Man hates America Because Biden Needs the Distraction.

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I have no problem with his rhetoric. I get it, this is a game to him. It is an adrenaline rush to have rallies. But it is not to his followers.

I have a real problem with his rhetoric getting real people that this is not a game worked up, doing things they wouldn't normally do and ending up arrested. Then chalking it up to they need to be responsible for their own actions or I didn't tell them to do it.

He crossed the line with the 2020 election, he needs to be tried. If the Courts find him innocent, so be it. If the Supreme Court says he was allowed to lobby for alternate electors, fine. Nobody has messed with election results in the modern era. This is not requesting recounts, it was changing electors.

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Nice to see Baghdad Bob still has an audience ...

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You are still here too! We get along great as long as we agree with everything you say! If not, out come the names. So much like your MAGA Master...

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Ahh, that old lie.

Sorry but that misses the ballpark, boyo.

I'm not voting for Trump, I just won't gang-rape him like you want to do.

That doesn't make me 'MAGA', but it says some sad things about you.

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The knuckle-dragging posts by the tribal binaries than cannot apply critical thinking gets exhausting. Not wanting to become a fascist-style banana republic is not related to one's love of Trump. Some things are more important than immature political opinions.

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Yeah, allowing a candidate to substitute electors of his choosing after losing screams sophisticated Democracy! "No Banana Republic Here"...

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i would ask you if you would have arrested Stacey Abrams but your too chicken **** to answer.

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What are you talking about??? What has Stacey Abrams done to be arrested? I guess I missed a press cycle? Fill me in on what she did and I will tell you

As for the chicken **** part, chicken **** of what? Your scathing wit? You guys really take yourself a too seriously. Don't tell me your father questioned you once, once...

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she claimed an election was stolen you moron regard, which is for what Trump was arrested. I mean are you really this stupid or just playing regressive on TV?

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Geez, you are stupid. Trump is not indicted for saying he won. He is indicted for what he did.

Trump was charged with conspiracy to defraud the United States, witness tampering, conspiracy against the rights of citizens, and obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding. None of those are 1st Amendment or based on him saying the elections was stolen. Get it?

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There's absolutely no proof behind any of the things you listed to meet the criteria for those charges.

Really there's a massive problem with these legal theories:
Even if widespread election fraud were 100% proven, Trump could still be charged for asking VP Pence to reject or send to the states Biden's electoral votes.

If it was illegal for Pence to reject/send back to the states the electoral votes, then why did Congress vote and alter the Electoral Count Act of 1887?

Leftoids are playing with fire and they don't even know it.

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Nice to see Baghdad Bob still has an audience ...

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You are still here too! We get along great as long as we agree with everything you say! If not, out come the names. So much like your MAGA Master...

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Ahh, that old lie.

Sorry but that misses the ballpark, boyo.

I'm not voting for Trump, I just won't gang-rape him like you want to do.

That doesn't make me 'MAGA', but it says some sad things about you.

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The knuckle-dragging posts by the tribal binaries than cannot apply critical thinking gets exhausting. Not wanting to become a fascist-style banana republic is not related to one's love of Trump. Some things are more important than immature political opinions.

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Yeah, allowing a candidate to substitute electors of his choosing after losing screams sophisticated Democracy! "No Banana Republic Here"...

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i would ask you if you would have arrested Stacey Abrams but your too chicken **** to answer.

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What are you talking about??? What has Stacey Abrams done to be arrested? I guess I missed a press cycle? Fill me in on what she did and I will tell you

As for the chicken **** part, chicken **** of what? Your scathing wit? You guys really take yourself a too seriously. Don't tell me your father questioned you once, once...

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she claimed an election was stolen you moron regard, which is for what Trump was arrested. I mean are you really this stupid or just playing regressive on TV?

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Geez, you are stupid. Trump is not indicted for saying he won. He is indicted for what he did.

Trump was charged with conspiracy to defraud the United States, witness tampering, conspiracy against the rights of citizens, and obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding. None of those are 1st Amendment or based on him saying the elections was stolen. Get it?

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There's absolutely no proof behind any of the things you listed to meet the criteria for those charges.

Really there's a massive problem with these legal theories:
Even if widespread election fraud were 100% proven, Trump could still be charged for asking VP Pence to reject or send to the states Biden's electoral votes.

If it was illegal for Pence to reject/send back to the states the electoral votes, then why did Congress vote and alter the Electoral Count Act of 1887?

Leftoids are playing with fire and they don't even know it.

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Pence's job was to certify they were sent and announce, not approved and cherry pick. White House counsel told Trump what he was asking was illegal.

Your reading of the Act is similar to your view on Congress being unable to be closed by Capitol Police.

"he needs to be tried"

Only according to Trump haters.

Hillary wasn't put on trial, neither was Kerry. But Trump is different, somehow.

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"he needs to be tried"

Only according to Trump haters.

Hillary wasn't put on trial, neither was Kerry. But Trump is different, somehow.

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Trump is on trial for plotting to overthrow the 2020 election and people are willing to testify in court.

Clinton and Kerry should have been tried, the only people that can answer why they weren't is Trump and the GOP Congress. GOP had House and Senate yet no investigation into Hillary. Trumps DOJ did not bring charges. Why? I agree, we should be asking Trump why he didn't direct either Sessions or Barr to investigate.

Finally, the Trump and GOP Congress not investigating and indicting Clinton and Kerry does not relieve Trump.

"Trump is on trial for plotting to overthrow the 2020 election"

That's the charge. The facts don't support it.

What Trump did was raise a stink about the election, just as Clinton did in 2016 and Kerry did in 2004 and Gore did in 2000. Gore is the outlier because once the SCOTUS ruled against him, he limited his complaints to public appearances between 2001 and 2004.

Trump believed the election was stolen. Even if you think he is wrong about that, believing the election was stolen is not criminal.

And Trump did not destroy emails, did not order anyone to lie for him, did not have classified documents in his garage before he was even President.

The worst charge that can be made to stick to Trump is that he did not return documents when an Archives drone demanded them. And the Presidential Records Act can apply to that, not the freaking Espionage Act.

This is a garbage set of indictments, no matter your politics. And the public knows it, which is why Trump is riding high in the polls.

If you want sanity returned to the election cycle, find Trump not guilty then start in discussing the issues and what policies each candidate brings to the table. That's how you find the best candidate and move on.

Pretending there is a shred of reason to play along with Biden's DOJ and send Trump to prison, is obscene and cannot help but lead to disaster.

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Nice to see Baghdad Bob still has an audience ...

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You are still here too! We get along great as long as we agree with everything you say! If not, out come the names. So much like your MAGA Master...

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Ahh, that old lie.

Sorry but that misses the ballpark, boyo.

I'm not voting for Trump, I just won't gang-rape him like you want to do.

That doesn't make me 'MAGA', but it says some sad things about you.

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The knuckle-dragging posts by the tribal binaries than cannot apply critical thinking gets exhausting. Not wanting to become a fascist-style banana republic is not related to one's love of Trump. Some things are more important than immature political opinions.

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Yeah, allowing a candidate to substitute electors of his choosing after losing screams sophisticated Democracy! "No Banana Republic Here"...

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i would ask you if you would have arrested Stacey Abrams but your too chicken **** to answer.

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What are you talking about??? What has Stacey Abrams done to be arrested? I guess I missed a press cycle? Fill me in on what she did and I will tell you

As for the chicken **** part, chicken **** of what? Your scathing wit? You guys really take yourself a too seriously. Don't tell me your father questioned you once, once...

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she claimed an election was stolen you moron regard, which is for what Trump was arrested. I mean are you really this stupid or just playing regressive on TV?

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Geez, you are stupid. Trump is not indicted for saying he won. He is indicted for what he did.

Trump was charged with conspiracy to defraud the United States, witness tampering, conspiracy against the rights of citizens, and obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding. None of those are 1st Amendment or based on him saying the elections was stolen. Get it?

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Read the indictment. Turn off CNN you regarded mouthbreather. You're why people wanted literacy tests to vote.

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You keep main-lining Breitbart and Newsmax, they may be right sometime in the future. Even better, do what Master Trump tells you, we'll converse from jail.

Donald said it's legal. It's the peoples house, they can't keep us out, Pence can choose any electors he wants.... Geez, you are a gullible idiot.

How many from Jan 6th were found guilty? Oh yeah, it's all a left wing, deep state conspiracy. Yeah, that's it. These people did nothing wrong. You went to Baylor? They gave you a Diploma? What year, so I can tell people I graduated before you when they actually taught.

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Notice I keep discussing primary facts and evidence, and you keep discussing me.

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What? You went personal first , I thought you wanted to do the cut down fight routine...

Ok, I laid out the facts of what Trump did and that it was not 1st Amendment. He tried to change the election results in 7 states with fake electors. Overthrowing an election is illegal, it is legal not political. As we are finding out. If he is acquited, I will be the first to give you props. Don't think that is happening and it has nothing to do with a conspiracy.

You don't get indicted for multiple states, several being Republican, without it being a little bit of a him issue.

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So did Clinton. I would ask you if you support indicted Clinton on the same charges, but I suspect you'll avoid. Clinton tried to overthrow an election too. So did most of the Democrat Congress. In fact we spent $40M on a fake investigation based on intelligence from a Russian spy laundered through the Clinton campaign to the Obama Administration all in attempt to overthrow and election. Since I see the world with tribal eyes and a political fundamentalism, I can understand why a banana-republic style two-tiered justice system is not the right answer. I'll leave you with your Trumpgasm. There are myriad left-wing legal scholars that can see a banana republic, National Socialist-style beer hall putsch when they see one.

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And this from someone claiming to hate ad hominem posts.

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Never said anything of the sort. I respond in like kind to @ssholes such as yourself.

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"Trump is on trial for plotting to overthrow the 2020 election"

That's the charge. The facts don't support it.

What Trump did was raise a stink about the election, just as Clinton did in 2016 and Kerry did in 2004 and Gore did in 2000. Gore is the outlier because once the SCOTUS ruled against him, he limited his complaints to public appearances between 2001 and 2004.

Trump believed the election was stolen. Even if you think he is wrong about that, believing the election was stolen is not criminal.

And Trump did not destroy emails, did not order anyone to lie for him, did not have classified documents in his garage before he was even President.

The worst charge that can be made to stick to Trump is that he did not return documents when an Archives drone demanded them. And the Presidential Records Act can apply to that, not the freaking Espionage Act.

This is a garbage set of indictments, no matter your politics. And the public knows it, which is why Trump is riding high in the polls.

If you want sanity returned to the election cycle, find Trump not guilty then start in discussing the issues and what policies each candidate brings to the table. That's how you find the best candidate and move on.

Pretending there is a shred of reason to play along with Biden's DOJ and send Trump to prison, is obscene and cannot help but lead to disaster.

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I agree with this for the most part, except for the bolded part. The documents indictment has teeth, and Trump is in some real danger there. Every other charge is indeed garbage. However, the public doesn't know it. Both the govt. and the MSM have done a fantastic job of making many Americans believe that these are real crimes.

As for Trump's popularity, it may remain high among Repubs, but it's sitting around 37% among the general populace, give or take a couple of points.

Trump is popular only among Republicans. He is very unpopular outside of that demographic.

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And this from someone claiming to hate ad hominem posts.

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Never said anything of the sort. I respond in like kind to @ssholes such as yourself.

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You just made another ad hominem right there.

Do you even know what the phrase means?