Doc Holliday said:

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HuMcK said:

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They understand it just fine, they are deliberately using bad faith arguments because that's really all they have left.

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Not even the Soviet Communist Party did this type of legal weaponization during its last years in power.

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I checked, and the sky is not falling

Waco1947 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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HuMcK said:

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They understand it just fine, they are deliberately using bad faith arguments because that's really all they have left.

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Not even the Soviet Communist Party did this type of legal weaponization during its last years in power.

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I checked, and the sky is not falling

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You vote for radical leftists and you hate white people. Stop talking.

Waco1947 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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HuMcK said:

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They understand it just fine, they are deliberately using bad faith arguments because that's really all they have left.

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Not even the Soviet Communist Party did this type of legal weaponization during its last years in power.

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I checked, and the sky is not falling

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I will remind you of that the next time Trump tweet makes you wet yourself, Waco.

Guy Noir said:

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Trump lost the 2020 election. Thus he is a loser. The Republicans need to put forth a candidate that is a winner.

It was never proven in court that the election was rigged.

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Former president Donald Trump faces a total of 91 charges across four criminal cases. They include 44 federal charges and 47 state charges, all of them felonies. Trump has denied wrongdoing in each case.

Osodecentx said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Trump lost the 2020 election. Thus he is a loser. The Republicans need to put forth a candidate that is a winner.

It was never proven in court that the election was rigged.

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Former president Donald Trump faces a total of 91 charges across four criminal cases. They include 44 federal charges and 47 state charges, all of them felonies. Trump has denied wrongdoing in each case.

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91 criminal charges is another good reason to drop Trump from the Republican ticket for 2024.

Guy Noir said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Trump lost the 2020 election. Thus he is a loser. The Republicans need to put forth a candidate that is a winner.

It was never proven in court that the election was rigged.

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Former president Donald Trump faces a total of 91 charges across four criminal cases. They include 44 federal charges and 47 state charges, all of them felonies. Trump has denied wrongdoing in each case.

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91 criminal charges is another good reason to drop Trump from the Republican ticket for 2024.

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Then vote for the same type of leadership we currently have in the house which does absolutely nothing but allow democrats to continue to destroy our standard of living?

Doc Holliday said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Trump lost the 2020 election. Thus he is a loser. The Republicans need to put forth a candidate that is a winner.

It was never proven in court that the election was rigged.

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Former president Donald Trump faces a total of 91 charges across four criminal cases. They include 44 federal charges and 47 state charges, all of them felonies. Trump has denied wrongdoing in each case.

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91 criminal charges is another good reason to drop Trump from the Republican ticket for 2024.

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Then vote for the same type of leadership we currently have in the house which does absolutely nothing but allow democrats to continue to destroy our standard of living?

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I do not agree that a Democrat is a acceptable solution. The point I am attempting to make is to select a younger candidate for the Republican ticket is the best option..

Guy Noir said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Trump lost the 2020 election. Thus he is a loser. The Republicans need to put forth a candidate that is a winner.

It was never proven in court that the election was rigged.

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Former president Donald Trump faces a total of 91 charges across four criminal cases. They include 44 federal charges and 47 state charges, all of them felonies. Trump has denied wrongdoing in each case.

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91 criminal charges is another good reason to drop Trump from the Republican ticket for 2024.

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Then vote for the same type of leadership we currently have in the house which does absolutely nothing but allow democrats to continue to destroy our standard of living?

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I do not agree that a Democrat is a acceptable solution. The point I am attempting to make is to select a younger candidate for the Republican ticket is the best option..

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Trump is going to be convicted and jailed. It will piss off tens of millions of people who won't vote for the GOP because the GOP isn't standing up for Trump.

Running a younger candidate will yield maybe 45M votes. Biden got 81M votes and there's a good chance he will step down and someone like Newsom will run and get 70M or so votes.

I've already accepted that dems will win 2024.

SCOTUS will lean left and dems will control all branches. Hard times are coming.

Doc Holliday said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Trump lost the 2020 election. Thus he is a loser. The Republicans need to put forth a candidate that is a winner.

It was never proven in court that the election was rigged.

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Former president Donald Trump faces a total of 91 charges across four criminal cases. They include 44 federal charges and 47 state charges, all of them felonies. Trump has denied wrongdoing in each case.

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91 criminal charges is another good reason to drop Trump from the Republican ticket for 2024.

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Then vote for the same type of leadership we currently have in the house which does absolutely nothing but allow democrats to continue to destroy our standard of living?

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I do not agree that a Democrat is a acceptable solution. The point I am attempting to make is to select a younger candidate for the Republican ticket is the best option..

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Trump is going to be convicted and jailed. It will piss off tens of millions of people who won't vote for the GOP because the GOP isn't standing up for Trump.

Running a younger candidate will yield maybe 45M votes. Biden got 81M votes and there's a good chance he will step down and someone like Newsom will run and get 70M or so votes.

I've already accepted that dems will win 2024.

SCOTUS will lean left and dems will control all branches. Hard times are coming.

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SCOTUS won't be leaning left any time soon.

I believe that there is a good chance the vote for a younger Republican candidate could find victory, but it will require that the party will need to rally around that person. The attitude that Republicans must support Donald Trump is a recipe for failure. Trump has divided the party. He should step down now.

Guy Noir said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Trump lost the 2020 election. Thus he is a loser. The Republicans need to put forth a candidate that is a winner.

It was never proven in court that the election was rigged.

---

Former president Donald Trump faces a total of 91 charges across four criminal cases. They include 44 federal charges and 47 state charges, all of them felonies. Trump has denied wrongdoing in each case.

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91 criminal charges is another good reason to drop Trump from the Republican ticket for 2024.

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soon yall will catch on this is the way the GOP sheds Trump off the ballot. The Dems want him on the ballot and looking worse than his Dem opponent in the media etc..

4th and Inches said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Trump lost the 2020 election. Thus he is a loser. The Republicans need to put forth a candidate that is a winner.

It was never proven in court that the election was rigged.

---

Former president Donald Trump faces a total of 91 charges across four criminal cases. They include 44 federal charges and 47 state charges, all of them felonies. Trump has denied wrongdoing in each case.

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91 criminal charges is another good reason to drop Trump from the Republican ticket for 2024.

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soon yall will catch on this is the way the GOP sheds Trump off the ballot. The Dems want him on the ballot and looking worse than his Dem opponent in the media etc..

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Let's hide and watch as Younkin ascends the polls.

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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4th and Inches said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Trump lost the 2020 election. Thus he is a loser. The Republicans need to put forth a candidate that is a winner.

It was never proven in court that the election was rigged.

---

Former president Donald Trump faces a total of 91 charges across four criminal cases. They include 44 federal charges and 47 state charges, all of them felonies. Trump has denied wrongdoing in each case.

---

91 criminal charges is another good reason to drop Trump from the Republican ticket for 2024.

---

soon yall will catch on this is the way the GOP sheds Trump off the ballot. The Dems want him on the ballot and looking worse than his Dem opponent in the media etc..

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Let's hide and watch as Younkin ascends the polls.

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All the way to 8%..

I will try to help DeSantis close on 1st place, thanks.

Oldbear83 said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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4th and Inches said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Trump lost the 2020 election. Thus he is a loser. The Republicans need to put forth a candidate that is a winner.

It was never proven in court that the election was rigged.

---

Former president Donald Trump faces a total of 91 charges across four criminal cases. They include 44 federal charges and 47 state charges, all of them felonies. Trump has denied wrongdoing in each case.

---

91 criminal charges is another good reason to drop Trump from the Republican ticket for 2024.

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soon yall will catch on this is the way the GOP sheds Trump off the ballot. The Dems want him on the ballot and looking worse than his Dem opponent in the media etc..

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Let's hide and watch as Younkin ascends the polls.

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All the way to 8%..

I will try to help DeSantis close on 1st place, thanks.

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I like DeSantis too. Where are his numbers?

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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4th and Inches said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Trump lost the 2020 election. Thus he is a loser. The Republicans need to put forth a candidate that is a winner.

It was never proven in court that the election was rigged.

---

Former president Donald Trump faces a total of 91 charges across four criminal cases. They include 44 federal charges and 47 state charges, all of them felonies. Trump has denied wrongdoing in each case.

---

91 criminal charges is another good reason to drop Trump from the Republican ticket for 2024.

---

soon yall will catch on this is the way the GOP sheds Trump off the ballot. The Dems want him on the ballot and looking worse than his Dem opponent in the media etc..

---

Let's hide and watch as Younkin ascends the polls.

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All the way to 8%..

I will try to help DeSantis close on 1st place, thanks.

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I like DeSantis too. Where are his numbers?

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Healthier than anyone not named Trump.

Oldbear83 said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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4th and Inches said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Trump lost the 2020 election. Thus he is a loser. The Republicans need to put forth a candidate that is a winner.

It was never proven in court that the election was rigged.

---

Former president Donald Trump faces a total of 91 charges across four criminal cases. They include 44 federal charges and 47 state charges, all of them felonies. Trump has denied wrongdoing in each case.

---

91 criminal charges is another good reason to drop Trump from the Republican ticket for 2024.

---

soon yall will catch on this is the way the GOP sheds Trump off the ballot. The Dems want him on the ballot and looking worse than his Dem opponent in the media etc..

---

Let's hide and watch as Younkin ascends the polls.

---

All the way to 8%..

I will try to help DeSantis close on 1st place, thanks.

---

Which DeSantis? The 1st term Gov who was pro-business and middle of the road on policy? Or the anti-woke obsessed Gov chasing billions out of the state?

1st term DeSantis, I am all in. This latest anti-woke guy, give me Haley...

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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4th and Inches said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Trump lost the 2020 election. Thus he is a loser. The Republicans need to put forth a candidate that is a winner.

It was never proven in court that the election was rigged.

---

Former president Donald Trump faces a total of 91 charges across four criminal cases. They include 44 federal charges and 47 state charges, all of them felonies. Trump has denied wrongdoing in each case.

---

91 criminal charges is another good reason to drop Trump from the Republican ticket for 2024.

---

soon yall will catch on this is the way the GOP sheds Trump off the ballot. The Dems want him on the ballot and looking worse than his Dem opponent in the media etc..

---

Let's hide and watch as Younkin ascends the polls.

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Younkin isn't in. There's some descent over there. After South Carolina, republicans may need to all align behind one.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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4th and Inches said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Trump lost the 2020 election. Thus he is a loser. The Republicans need to put forth a candidate that is a winner.

It was never proven in court that the election was rigged.

---

Former president Donald Trump faces a total of 91 charges across four criminal cases. They include 44 federal charges and 47 state charges, all of them felonies. Trump has denied wrongdoing in each case.

---

91 criminal charges is another good reason to drop Trump from the Republican ticket for 2024.

---

soon yall will catch on this is the way the GOP sheds Trump off the ballot. The Dems want him on the ballot and looking worse than his Dem opponent in the media etc..

---

Let's hide and watch as Younkin ascends the polls.

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Younkin isn't in. There's some descent over there. After South Carolina, republicans may need to all align behind one.

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We better. Or Dems will win again. Trump is not the ticket. A raging felon (hard to imagine he will dodge every count) on a vendetta is not going to play well with moderates and Ind. He couldn't win the Independents when pre-Jan 6th. It has not gotten better with time.

Sam Lowry said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Trump lost the 2020 election. Thus he is a loser. The Republicans need to put forth a candidate that is a winner.

It was never proven in court that the election was rigged.

---

Former president Donald Trump faces a total of 91 charges across four criminal cases. They include 44 federal charges and 47 state charges, all of them felonies. Trump has denied wrongdoing in each case.

---

91 criminal charges is another good reason to drop Trump from the Republican ticket for 2024.

---

Then vote for the same type of leadership we currently have in the house which does absolutely nothing but allow democrats to continue to destroy our standard of living?

---

I do not agree that a Democrat is a acceptable solution. The point I am attempting to make is to select a younger candidate for the Republican ticket is the best option..

---

Trump is going to be convicted and jailed. It will piss off tens of millions of people who won't vote for the GOP because the GOP isn't standing up for Trump.

Running a younger candidate will yield maybe 45M votes. Biden got 81M votes and there's a good chance he will step down and someone like Newsom will run and get 70M or so votes.

I've already accepted that dems will win 2024.

SCOTUS will lean left and dems will control all branches. Hard times are coming.

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SCOTUS won't be leaning left any time soon.

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In my lifetime it will.

Boomers are dying off, Gen z is largely radically left and old SCOTUS members will die or retire and be replaced by lefties.

FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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4th and Inches said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Trump lost the 2020 election. Thus he is a loser. The Republicans need to put forth a candidate that is a winner.

It was never proven in court that the election was rigged.

---

Former president Donald Trump faces a total of 91 charges across four criminal cases. They include 44 federal charges and 47 state charges, all of them felonies. Trump has denied wrongdoing in each case.

---

91 criminal charges is another good reason to drop Trump from the Republican ticket for 2024.

---

soon yall will catch on this is the way the GOP sheds Trump off the ballot. The Dems want him on the ballot and looking worse than his Dem opponent in the media etc..

---

Let's hide and watch as Younkin ascends the polls.

---

All the way to 8%..

I will try to help DeSantis close on 1st place, thanks.

---

Which DeSantis? The 1st term Gov who was pro-business and middle of the road on policy? Or the anti-woke obsessed Gov chasing billions out of the state?

1st term DeSantis, I am all in. This latest anti-woke guy, give me Haley...

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Yeah, after all, it is just basic fairness and decency that you are giving up. And I am not clear what the trade off is since Florida seems to be dong quite well into DeSantis' second term.

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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4th and Inches said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Trump lost the 2020 election. Thus he is a loser. The Republicans need to put forth a candidate that is a winner.

It was never proven in court that the election was rigged.

---

Former president Donald Trump faces a total of 91 charges across four criminal cases. They include 44 federal charges and 47 state charges, all of them felonies. Trump has denied wrongdoing in each case.

---

91 criminal charges is another good reason to drop Trump from the Republican ticket for 2024.

---

soon yall will catch on this is the way the GOP sheds Trump off the ballot. The Dems want him on the ballot and looking worse than his Dem opponent in the media etc..

---

Let's hide and watch as Younkin ascends the polls.

---

All the way to 8%..

I will try to help DeSantis close on 1st place, thanks.

---

Which DeSantis? The 1st term Gov who was pro-business and middle of the road on policy? Or the anti-woke obsessed Gov chasing billions out of the state?

1st term DeSantis, I am all in. This latest anti-woke guy, give me Haley...

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Yeah, after all, it is just basic fairness and decency that you are giving up. And I am not clear what the trade off is since Florida seems to be dong quite well into DeSantis' second term.

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He is great on certain things. He just got very obsessed with the anti woke stuff.. jts all he talks about.

FLBear5630 said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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4th and Inches said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Trump lost the 2020 election. Thus he is a loser. The Republicans need to put forth a candidate that is a winner.

It was never proven in court that the election was rigged.

---

Former president Donald Trump faces a total of 91 charges across four criminal cases. They include 44 federal charges and 47 state charges, all of them felonies. Trump has denied wrongdoing in each case.

---

91 criminal charges is another good reason to drop Trump from the Republican ticket for 2024.

---

soon yall will catch on this is the way the GOP sheds Trump off the ballot. The Dems want him on the ballot and looking worse than his Dem opponent in the media etc..

---

Let's hide and watch as Younkin ascends the polls.

---

All the way to 8%..

I will try to help DeSantis close on 1st place, thanks.

---

Which DeSantis? The 1st term Gov who was pro-business and middle of the road on policy? Or the anti-woke obsessed Gov chasing billions out of the state?

1st term DeSantis, I am all in. This latest anti-woke guy, give me Haley...

---

Yeah, after all, it is just basic fairness and decency that you are giving up. And I am not clear what the trade off is since Florida seems to be dong quite well into DeSantis' second term.

---

He is great on certain things. He just got very obsessed with the anti woke stuff.. jts all he talks about.

---

You know what makes me mad? Every time I try to buy something on Amazon, the language is in Spanish. I only know how to get a hamburger in Spanish. How do they expect me to grocery shop for anything unless its in English?

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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4th and Inches said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Trump lost the 2020 election. Thus he is a loser. The Republicans need to put forth a candidate that is a winner.

It was never proven in court that the election was rigged.

---

Former president Donald Trump faces a total of 91 charges across four criminal cases. They include 44 federal charges and 47 state charges, all of them felonies. Trump has denied wrongdoing in each case.

---

91 criminal charges is another good reason to drop Trump from the Republican ticket for 2024.

---

soon yall will catch on this is the way the GOP sheds Trump off the ballot. The Dems want him on the ballot and looking worse than his Dem opponent in the media etc..

---

Let's hide and watch as Younkin ascends the polls.

---

All the way to 8%..

I will try to help DeSantis close on 1st place, thanks.

---

Which DeSantis? The 1st term Gov who was pro-business and middle of the road on policy? Or the anti-woke obsessed Gov chasing billions out of the state?

1st term DeSantis, I am all in. This latest anti-woke guy, give me Haley...

---

Yeah, after all, it is just basic fairness and decency that you are giving up. And I am not clear what the trade off is since Florida seems to be dong quite well into DeSantis' second term.

---

He is great on certain things. He just got very obsessed with the anti woke stuff.. jts all he talks about.

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You know what makes me mad? Every time I try to buy something on Amazon, the language is in Spanish. I only know how to get a hamburger in Spanish. How do they expect me to grocery shop for anything unless its in English?

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Yeah, Bezos is evil. Or you can set the computer language to English. Guess it depends on you look at the world.

FLBear5630 said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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4th and Inches said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Trump lost the 2020 election. Thus he is a loser. The Republicans need to put forth a candidate that is a winner.

It was never proven in court that the election was rigged.

---

Former president Donald Trump faces a total of 91 charges across four criminal cases. They include 44 federal charges and 47 state charges, all of them felonies. Trump has denied wrongdoing in each case.

---

91 criminal charges is another good reason to drop Trump from the Republican ticket for 2024.

---

soon yall will catch on this is the way the GOP sheds Trump off the ballot. The Dems want him on the ballot and looking worse than his Dem opponent in the media etc..

---

Let's hide and watch as Younkin ascends the polls.

---

All the way to 8%..

I will try to help DeSantis close on 1st place, thanks.

---

Which DeSantis? The 1st term Gov who was pro-business and middle of the road on policy? Or the anti-woke obsessed Gov chasing billions out of the state?

1st term DeSantis, I am all in. This latest anti-woke guy, give me Haley...

---

Yeah, after all, it is just basic fairness and decency that you are giving up. And I am not clear what the trade off is since Florida seems to be dong quite well into DeSantis' second term.

---

He is great on certain things. He just got very obsessed with the anti woke stuff.. jts all he talks about.

---

You know what makes me mad? Every time I try to buy something on Amazon, the language is in Spanish. I only know how to get a hamburger in Spanish. How do they expect me to grocery shop for anything unless its in English?

---

Yeah, Bezos is evil. Or you can set the computer language to English. Guess it depends on you look at the world.

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I tried setting it to English. It will not cooperate. I should start a new thread, "Insights on Amazon."

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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4th and Inches said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Trump lost the 2020 election. Thus he is a loser. The Republicans need to put forth a candidate that is a winner.

It was never proven in court that the election was rigged.

---

Former president Donald Trump faces a total of 91 charges across four criminal cases. They include 44 federal charges and 47 state charges, all of them felonies. Trump has denied wrongdoing in each case.

---

91 criminal charges is another good reason to drop Trump from the Republican ticket for 2024.

---

soon yall will catch on this is the way the GOP sheds Trump off the ballot. The Dems want him on the ballot and looking worse than his Dem opponent in the media etc..

---

Let's hide and watch as Younkin ascends the polls.

---

All the way to 8%..

I will try to help DeSantis close on 1st place, thanks.

---

Which DeSantis? The 1st term Gov who was pro-business and middle of the road on policy? Or the anti-woke obsessed Gov chasing billions out of the state?

1st term DeSantis, I am all in. This latest anti-woke guy, give me Haley...

---

Yeah, after all, it is just basic fairness and decency that you are giving up. And I am not clear what the trade off is since Florida seems to be dong quite well into DeSantis' second term.

---

He is great on certain things. He just got very obsessed with the anti woke stuff.. jts all he talks about.

---

You know what makes me mad? Every time I try to buy something on Amazon, the language is in Spanish. I only know how to get a hamburger in Spanish. How do they expect me to grocery shop for anything unless its in English?

---

Yeah, Bezos is evil. Or you can set the computer language to English. Guess it depends on you look at the world.

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I tried setting it to English. It will not cooperate. I should start a new thread, "Insights on Amazon."

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I'm sorry, I thought you were being a smart ass. Wish I had an answer!

FLBear5630 said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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4th and Inches said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Trump lost the 2020 election. Thus he is a loser. The Republicans need to put forth a candidate that is a winner.

It was never proven in court that the election was rigged.

---

Former president Donald Trump faces a total of 91 charges across four criminal cases. They include 44 federal charges and 47 state charges, all of them felonies. Trump has denied wrongdoing in each case.

---

91 criminal charges is another good reason to drop Trump from the Republican ticket for 2024.

---

soon yall will catch on this is the way the GOP sheds Trump off the ballot. The Dems want him on the ballot and looking worse than his Dem opponent in the media etc..

---

Let's hide and watch as Younkin ascends the polls.

---

All the way to 8%..

I will try to help DeSantis close on 1st place, thanks.

---

Which DeSantis? The 1st term Gov who was pro-business and middle of the road on policy? Or the anti-woke obsessed Gov chasing billions out of the state?

1st term DeSantis, I am all in. This latest anti-woke guy, give me Haley...

---

Yeah, after all, it is just basic fairness and decency that you are giving up. And I am not clear what the trade off is since Florida seems to be dong quite well into DeSantis' second term.

---

He is great on certain things. He just got very obsessed with the anti woke stuff.. jts all he talks about.

---

You know what makes me mad? Every time I try to buy something on Amazon, the language is in Spanish. I only know how to get a hamburger in Spanish. How do they expect me to grocery shop for anything unless its in English?

---

Yeah, Bezos is evil. Or you can set the computer language to English. Guess it depends on you look at the world.

---

I tried setting it to English. It will not cooperate. I should start a new thread, "Insights on Amazon."

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I'm sorry, I thought you were being a smart ass. Wish I had an answer!

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I was, but I was also kind of serious.

Texas woman charged after threatening to kill federal judge overseeing election case against Trump: affidavit
Abigail Jo Shry admitted she made the call during questioning at her Alvin, Texas, home, an affidavit revealed

A Texas woman is behind bars after allegedly threatening to kill U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan the federal judge overseeing Special Counsel Jack Smith's 2020 election conspiracy case against former President Donald Trump and U.S. Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee.
Abigail Jo Shry, of Alvin, Texas, is charged with transmitting a threat to injure a person via interstate commerce after being accused of making a threatening call to Chutkan's chambers in Washington D.C. on Aug. 5, according to an affidavit, which was filed in federal court on Aug. 11 and made public Wednesday by Bloomberg Law.
The document, signed by Special Agent Joshua Henry with the Department of Homeland Security's Federal Protective Service, alleges that Shry began the message by saying "Hey you stupid slave [N-word]," before threatening the life of anyone pursuing Trump.
The message included a direct threat to kill Rep. Lee, a Texas Democrat running for mayor in Houston, "all Democrats in Washington D.C. and all people in the LGBTQ community," the affidavit revealed.
In the message intended for Chutkan, Shry allegedly continued the threats by saying: "You are in our sights, we want to kill you. … We want to kill Sheila Jackson Lee. … If Trump doesn't get elected in 2024, we are coming to kill you, so tread lightly, b----. … You will be targeted personally, publicly, your family, all of it."
Investigators were able to trace the message back to a phone owned by Shry and, on Aug. 8, Homeland Security special agents went to her home in southeast Texas for questioning.
During the conversation, Shry stated the phone belonged to her and admitted to making the threatening call, the affidavit showed. She allegedly added that she had no plans of traveling to D.C. or Houston to carry out the threats, but said they would "need to worry" if Lee visits Alvin.
Chutkan, an Obama appointee, has earned a reputation as the "toughest punisher" in cases related to Jan. 6. The Associated Press reported that she has "consistently taken the hardest line against Jan. 6 defendants of any judge serving on Washington's federal trial court."
The former president has publicly spoken out against Chutkan overseeing the case against him, accusing her of being "highly partisan" and "VERY BIASED & UNFAIR!" on social media platforms.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-woman-charged-threatening-kill-federal-judge-overseeing-election-case-trump-affidavit

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They understand it just fine, they are deliberately using bad faith arguments because that's really all they have left.

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Not even the Soviet Communist Party did this type of legal weaponization during its last years in power.

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I checked, and the sky is not falling

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You vote for radical leftists and you hate white people. Stop talking.

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None of theses accusations are true but You really already know that they are false.

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They understand it just fine, they are deliberately using bad faith arguments because that's really all they have left.

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Not even the Soviet Communist Party did this type of legal weaponization during its last years in power.

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I checked, and the sky is not falling

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You vote for radical leftists and you hate white people. Stop talking.

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None Both of these accusations are true You really already know that they are false. correct but I have to post something

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They understand it just fine, they are deliberately using bad faith arguments because that's really all they have left.

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Not even the Soviet Communist Party did this type of legal weaponization during its last years in power.

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I checked, and the sky is not falling

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You vote for radical leftists and you hate white people. Stop talking.

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None Both of these accusations are true You really already know that they are false. correct but I have to post something

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Corrected for accuracy No, for lunacy

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They understand it just fine, they are deliberately using bad faith arguments because that's really all they have left.

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Not even the Soviet Communist Party did this type of legal weaponization during its last years in power.

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I checked, and the sky is not falling

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You vote for radical leftists and you hate white people. Stop talking.

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None Both of these accusations are true You really already know that they are false. correct but I have to post something

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Corrected for accuracy No, for lunacy

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I don't usually agree with Waco, but if he wants to say his posts come from lunacy, I won't say he's wrong.

Mental illness is real and under served in this country..

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When you depend on the NY Times to sell your argument, you don't really have a good argument.

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exactly. Article describes completely lawful efforts to engage in politics and win an election, to include legal theory to support such.

People file lawsuits all the time knowing full well they are not likely to win...... Sometimes the objective is legal. Sometimes it is political. Sometimes it is both. And losing does not one a criminal make.

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Disagree with you on this one. He told his VP, in his chain of command, to accept alternate electors against legal counsel. Pence's Attorneys and White House Counsel said it was not legal. Yet, Trump and his surrogates pushed on at multiple levels after the election was over. That is beyond politics, that is downright coup area.
He also had legal advice that it was a viable plan.... And Pence went along with it until the last minute.

Since with Trump we all have to believe that he is speaking metaphorically, I find it more likely he found the power of being US President more enticing than money and was willing to do ANYTHING to keep it. That to me is more probable than he was speaking metaphorically, playing master-level political strategy.

That is not even going into the Georgia "find me votes" comments and strong-arming.
Noting illegal about pointing out that a more thorough adjudication of mail-in votes would possibly/likely change the outcome. Remember, the margins were, statistically speaking, razor thin. Would have been very easy to find 12k questionable ballots worthy of disqualification. See Florida 2000 and hanging chads for how to execute the program.

The guy is a stupid, loose cannon and gets what he deserves. He is on tape saying "find me 11k votes". Same with the Ukraine impeachment quid pro quo in exchange for investigating Biden. The guy continued to break the law and rely on everyone to believe he is speaking metaphorically. Well, it bit him here. Because words matter and he is dead to rights when taking at the letter of what he says to overturn an election he knew he lost.
False dilemma. Speaking plain truth may be inconvenient, but it is still truth. We now know conclusively that Biden got rich off of bribes from Ukraine and that Trump's phone call to Ukraine on the matter showed good stewardship of US taxpayer dollars.

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Let me say the inconvenient part cleary: it is not illegal to try to use legal procedures to overturn an election you know/suspect you actually lost. Gore literally did that in Florida in 2020. He kept counting Democrat counties only, knowing that the statistical certainty that any errors would fall in his favor might close the gap. And it would have if SCOTUS hadn't stepped in and stopped the re-counting (harvesting of ballot errors). Dems knew what they were doing.

Gore was stopped the same way Trump was stopped = by checks and balances. The system worked.

Democrats understand very clearly that the election isn't won until you take the oath of office. Challenging the results, to including using legal theories that have never before been tried, is not insurrection. It's liberty. You have the right to keep fighting until your opponent says "so help me God."

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Whoa. This was not a re-count of one State with a 200 vote difference. Trump wanted Pence to throw out legally submitted State electors in favor of alternates that favored him. The two are not in the same galaxy!

Razor thin? Biden had over 300 electors! Trump needed to "find" votes in multiple state. This was not a Trump/Gore.

False dilemma? You can't just blurt out statements like fine me 11k votes OR investigate Joe Biden and you will receive aid! On tape. You can poo-poo it as a non-issue, but he set himself up for the impeachment and his comments are why he is going to be indicted in GA. He wonders why he is in Court!!! He is a stupid, loose cannon. You say it is OK to play politics and try anything to win an election and then get butt-hurt when Trump is tried for his own words!

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a 2500 vote difference in FL vs a 11k vote difference in GA. (and comparable margins in other states). That is not a different universe. In FL 2000, there were two slates of FL electors standing ready to go until SCOTUS issued its final ruling WEEKS after the general election concluded. Highly analogous. and nobody alleged insurrection then.

There is law for process on post-election certification (or not) of every elected official. In close elections, the losing party attempts to stop certification, and/or to reverse certification. Nothing remarkable about any of that. Happens every election. What's unique about electors is that there actually are TWO sets of electors elected on the ballot. So it's not like Trump conjured this all up (which is what Dems are trying to portray). He was contesting the election results the way election results are contested. Democrats just didn't like it, and were highly defensive because they had much to be defensive about.

A thorough recounting of GA mail-in votes from Fulton Co (a selective recount ala what Gore demanded in 2000) would have reversed the results of the GA election.....a near mathematical certainty. Throwing out ballots with obvious errors would have had the effect of removing Biden votes at a rate exceeding 4-1. But Ga officials refused to do it. Trump was right to be livid with anger.

Dude. You are not thinking clearly on this point.....

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Fulton conducted hand and machine recounts.

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LOL not a single discrepancy. can you not hear how silly you sound when you say that?

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If you took the time to study Georgia's system, you wouldn't be surprised. It's 2-step verification. Of course, that does not necessarily mean zero issues, but there aren't material issues that would be discovered in a recount.

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In a razor-thin election, 11k vote difference, fraud/discrepancies are always at or above the margin. The only question is whether one has the fortitude to start counting hanging chads to eke out the win. GA Republican clearly don't.

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"Trump is on trial for plotting to overthrow the 2020 election"

That's the charge. The facts don't support it.

What Trump did was raise a stink about the election, just as Clinton did in 2016 and Kerry did in 2004 and Gore did in 2000. Gore is the outlier because once the SCOTUS ruled against him, he limited his complaints to public appearances between 2001 and 2004.

Trump believed the election was stolen. Even if you think he is wrong about that, believing the election was stolen is not criminal.

And Trump did not destroy emails, did not order anyone to lie for him, did not have classified documents in his garage before he was even President.

The worst charge that can be made to stick to Trump is that he did not return documents when an Archives drone demanded them. And the Presidential Records Act can apply to that, not the freaking Espionage Act.

This is a garbage set of indictments, no matter your politics. And the public knows it, which is why Trump is riding high in the polls.

If you want sanity returned to the election cycle, find Trump not guilty then start in discussing the issues and what policies each candidate brings to the table. That's how you find the best candidate and move on.

Pretending there is a shred of reason to play along with Biden's DOJ and send Trump to prison, is obscene and cannot help but lead to disaster.

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I agree with this for the most part, except for the bolded part. The documents indictment has teeth, and Trump is in some real danger there. Every other charge is indeed garbage. However, the public doesn't know it. Both the govt. and the MSM have done a fantastic job of making many Americans believe that these are real crimes.

As for Trump's popularity, it may remain high among Repubs, but it's sitting around 37% among the general populace, give or take a couple of points.

Trump is popular only among Republicans. He is very unpopular outside of that demographic.

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....and Biden is only popular among Democrats, and very unpopular outside of that demographic.....

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Trump lost the 2020 election. Thus he is a loser. The Republicans need to put forth a candidate that is a winner.

It was never proven in court that the election was rigged.

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Former president Donald Trump faces a total of 91 charges across four criminal cases. They include 44 federal charges and 47 state charges, all of them felonies. Trump has denied wrongdoing in each case.

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91 criminal charges is another good reason to drop Trump from the Republican ticket for 2024.

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soon yall will catch on this is the way the GOP sheds Trump off the ballot. The Dems want him on the ballot and looking worse than his Dem opponent in the media etc..

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Let's hide and watch as Younkin ascends the polls.

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All the way to 8%..

I will try to help DeSantis close on 1st place, thanks.

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Which DeSantis? The 1st term Gov who was pro-business and middle of the road on policy? Or the anti-woke obsessed Gov chasing billions out of the state?

1st term DeSantis, I am all in. This latest anti-woke guy, give me Haley...

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Yeah, after all, it is just basic fairness and decency that you are giving up. And I am not clear what the trade off is since Florida seems to be dong quite well into DeSantis' second term.

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He is great on certain things. He just got very obsessed with the anti woke stuff.. jts all he talks about.

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it's what most GOP voters are concerned about.

He has to win the primary before he can talk about the things the centrists are worried about.