Haven't I been answering that? Not a sin of commission, but still sin.LIB,MR BEARS said:BusyTarpDuster2017 said:Having the desire or orientation itself is a result of man's broken state. It is the result of sin nature. It's not wrong to say that they're not actively sinning for just the orientation alone, but it'd definitely be wrong to say that they're without sin for having it. This goes for all desires and orientations toward anything that is against God's design and will, not just homosexuality.LIB,MR BEARS said:historian said:BusyTarpDuster2017 said:You are both correct. Not acting on disordered desires may not be "sinful" in the sense that there is no active, willful commission of sin, but disordered desires come from our sin nature we inherited. Both are the "sin" that Jesus had to die for.Realitybites said:Harrison Bergeron said:
Being attracted to men is not sinful. Acting on it is.
You've fallen in to the philosophical tiger pit that the LGBT movement dug. A man being attracted to a woman is not inherently disordered. A man being attracted to a man is inherently disordered. The first step down this long road was delisting homosexuality as a mental illness.
I agree one hundred percent though, that it'd be wrong to say that there is absolutely nothing wrong with just having the desire.
Jesus has something to say about sinful thoughts in Matthew:
"You have heard that it was said, 'You shall not commit adultery.' But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart." Matthew 5:27-28
We cannot prevent birds from flying over our heads, but we can keep them from making nest on top of our heads.
IMHO, a person with same-sex attraction would not be sinning regarding those thoughts until they dwell on those thoughts or act on those thoughts. As they grow in Christ, those things should occur less and less.
We all have a sin nature. It is part of the state of our fallen world. It is a condition of living in a fallen world.
Charles Spurgeon said, "As the salt flavors every drop in the Atlantic, so does sin affect every atom of our nature. It is so sadly there, so abundantly there, that if you cannot detect it, you are deceived."
Is having that sin nature a sin in and of itself?
If a person desires to have sex with small children but never acts on it, still, wouldn't you say that something is wrong?