We don't even have the capacity to fill the need gap even if your misguided understanding of economics came to pass. It takes years, not months for production facilities to come on line. So what happens is it actually creates supply shortages and drives up prices for all vehicles. This happened in the 80's when we tried to attack the Japanese to protect Chrysler with tariffs and import limitations. Price of cars didn't come down, nor were American jobs created, but Chrysler bolstered its profits during the period it had a market advantage.TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:People will buy cheaper cars when similar cars are priced higher. Just economics. Sure some may not buy. But you're making a silly stand where one doesn't need to be made. We can't predict each individual but we can predict the group.nein51 said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:Sure, and hear me out ... a healthy blue collar work force and their communities will have more well paying jobs and will buy more cars.nein51 said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:Except it's not complicated. Cars produced here will be cheaper relative to imports. More Americans will purchase the cars made here. And those consumers that feel that they won't buy a domestic produced car will help increase our tariff tax revenue. Again, it's not complicated.nein51 said:KaiBear said:If foreign cars cost more...domestic car sales should increase.ATL Bear said:This won't help US autoworkers, but it will continue to spike US auto costs impacting everything from direct consumers to fleets.KaiBear said:
Good.
US automotive workers need all of the help they can get.
Except the current domestic lineup is absolute trash.
Cars aren't widgets where the only difference is where it was made and the quality of the materials it was made with.
Mercedes builds in Alabama, Ford in Mexico.
Complex issues often require complex solutions and, at the moment, we are caught up in trying to solve complex problems with simple solutions which works just this side of never.
Or…hear me out…they just don't buy at all
Also, go ahead and define made here for me please
Or…people don't buy either car, so those domestics are forced to scale back (did you not see the part where I'm right around the corner from Lordstown? I'm also awfully close to Ford's Cleveland facility and Walton Hills stamping plant…all 3 of which are closed).
This utopia where people buy a small Ford instead of a KIA is myth, for one Ford doesn't even make a small sedan any longer and if they did it wouldn't be made here but in Mexico.
Look the best possible thing for me a massive tariff on Chinese tools. It would be HUGE for my business.
But this concept that people will just buy A instead of B doesn't much work with cars that are sourced and produced globally, even the domestics.
So, again, define Domestic manufacturing for an automobile for me? I've already told you Ford doesn't work because a good chunk of their production is in Mexico. Are we adding a tariff to Mexican Ford production but not US Ford Production?
Also, I don't know what will constitute domestically made, but I'm sure it will be based on where it's assembled and what percent is made in the USA. Sort of irrelevant to the discussion at this point because we don't know. But if you know, please provide us with the info, and we can discuss it.
Summarizing what we all know to be true - tariffs will price foreign made cars out of range for many people. We also know that a healthy blue-collar workforce and their communities will buy cars. So let's wait and see what the details are before panicking. And no one will force you to buy American. You can save an extra month or two and buy the foreign made car.
These are corporations created to make money. They aren't here to provide a social service for communities or the government.
