Google CEO Sundar Pichai just told Fox News the one AI nightmare that actually keeps him awake:
“When deepfakes get so good that we literally won’t be able to tell what’s real anymore… and bad actors get their hands on it.”

His exact words after Shannon Bream pressed him:… pic.twitter.com/R9fF13Os41

— Camus (@newstart_2024) December 1, 2025

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Google CEO Sundar Pichai just told Fox News the one AI nightmare that actually keeps him awake:
“When deepfakes get so good that we literally won’t be able to tell what’s real anymore… and bad actors get their hands on it.”

His exact words after Shannon Bream pressed him:… pic.twitter.com/R9fF13Os41

— Camus (@newstart_2024) December 1, 2025

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How the "Information Age" would come to a close - when so much information is no longer reliable.

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JUST IN - Trump signs "Genesis Mission" executive order to build an "integrated AI platform" with access to "Federal scientific datasets" to dramatically accelerate AI development "comparable in urgency and ambition to the Manhattan Project" that developed nuclear weapons. pic.twitter.com/BkGUZDyoq6

— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) November 24, 2025

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This is something to be commended and not feared. Kudos to the President on making this a priority.

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Let's hope you are right.

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I'm going to agree with ATL. The Chinese are probably ahead of us on this. We have to stay in sight of them at all times. I doubt anyone else is in the game.

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They are mostly ahead of us in energy generation. Once we catch up, we'll dominate.

The easy Data Center locations with existing available power & water & natural gas have mostly been taken. The new ones will require major infrastructure projects = large transmission lines, dedicated natural gas mains, lots & lots of water pipe, etc..... Those things don't happen overnight.

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AI aside, the US won’t produce adequate power using windmills and solar. Need more reliable energy including nuclear. https://t.co/ZfcEttmTbg

— Ron DeSantis (@RonDeSantis) November 24, 2025

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I've been told we are 18-30 months away from commercially available mini-nuclear plants which can be purchased like an oversized generator. Conceptually, imagine taking a nuclear propulsion system out of a Los Angeles class submarine, putting it in a container, and dropping it off at the jobsite. Quiet. Clean. Safe. (Ostensibly.)

Just wondering if the big centralized systems are dinosaurs. That is certainly true for sewer systems - cost of pipeline exceeds the cost of package plants. So we are seeing more decentralization, developments bringing in their own sewer treatment capability rather than hooking up to a major grid to flow stuff down hill over long distances. Same may turn out to be true for electricity......cost of transmission lines may exceed powerful on-site generation = no transmission loss.

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AI aside, the US won’t produce adequate power using windmills and solar. Need more reliable energy including nuclear. https://t.co/ZfcEttmTbg

— Ron DeSantis (@RonDeSantis) November 24, 2025

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I've been told we are 18-30 months away from commercially available mini-nuclear plants which can be purchased like an oversized generator. Conceptually, imagine taking a nuclear propulsion system out of a Los Angeles class submarine, putting it in a container, and dropping it off at the jobsite. Quiet. Clean. Safe. (Ostensibly.)

Just wondering if the big centralized systems are dinosaurs. That is certainly true for sewer systems - cost of pipeline exceeds the cost of package plants. So we are seeing more decentralization, developments bringing in their own sewer treatment capability rather than hooking up to a major grid to flow stuff down hill over long distances. Same may turn out to be true for electricity......cost of transmission lines may exceed powerful on-site generation = no transmission loss.

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There is local resistance to data centers in some areas as they will drive up electricity costs for the locals and, after construction, provide few jobs. The better model is to build the power source and then the data center. A much easier sell to the locals is that their power bill could go down with a nearby data center.

The Oklo reactors use spent fuel from the big nuclear power plants and, if my reading is correct, have no chance for a meltdown. I think we will need both....big reactors and small modular ones too.

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AI aside, the US won’t produce adequate power using windmills and solar. Need more reliable energy including nuclear. https://t.co/ZfcEttmTbg

— Ron DeSantis (@RonDeSantis) November 24, 2025

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I've been told we are 18-30 months away from commercially available mini-nuclear plants which can be purchased like an oversized generator. Conceptually, imagine taking a nuclear propulsion system out of a Los Angeles class submarine, putting it in a container, and dropping it off at the jobsite. Quiet. Clean. Safe. (Ostensibly.)

Just wondering if the big centralized systems are dinosaurs. That is certainly true for sewer systems - cost of pipeline exceeds the cost of package plants. So we are seeing more decentralization, developments bringing in their own sewer treatment capability rather than hooking up to a major grid to flow stuff down hill over long distances. Same may turn out to be true for electricity......cost of transmission lines may exceed powerful on-site generation = no transmission loss.

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There is local resistance to data centers in some areas as they will drive up electricity costs for the locals and, after construction, provide few jobs. The better model is to build the power source and then the data center. A much easier sell to the locals is that their power bill could go down with a nearby data center.
local opposition, and I'm already dealing with it, is driven primarily by fear of and/or resistance to change, not higher energy bills. Almost all of the initial reactions are simply not well founded. The things are remarkably inoffensive compared to other potential industrial developments. There is no light pollution, noise pollution, air pollution, groundwater pollution, runoff water pollution at all. And energy costs are rising for reasons unconnected to data centers. Check out link...they cited state data showing increased energy costs, but the list of highest increases are NOT the states listed as where most of the DCs are located.
https://www.newschannel5.com/science-and-tech/artificial-intelligence/the-ai-rush-is-heating-up-the-power-grid-and-your-costs
The article also talks about "who foots the bill if the infrastructure is built but the DCs don't show up?" That has been my only demand. The DC developers don't want all that infrastructure debt on their balance sheet if they can avoid it, and I damned sure don't want my existing property tax roll put up as collateral for all that. Planes crash, hurricanes blow, meteors strike....it is simply not responsible to expose taxpayer to debt for which there might not be revenue to service. So we are looking at best options for public private partnership.....a separate entity to carry the debt collateralized by the infrastructure itself. we'll get it worked out.

All that's to say, increasing energy costs is a Western world phenomenon directly attributable to all the green energy nonsense - we quit caring about energy supply and cost. The solution is to drop the green energy nonsense in the ash heap of historical hoaxes and get serious about generating affordable energy (which is being done as we speak).

The Oklo reactors use spent fuel from the big nuclear power plants and, if my reading is correct, have no chance for a meltdown. I think we will need both....big reactors and small modular ones too.

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The critique that DCs create relatively few jobs given the amount of capital investment is a valid one. Flipside, though, is the value of the tax base. just one of the DCs I've been talking to will increase city budget by 8x. Comparable for school district.

That. Is. Transformative. For the private sector and the public sector.

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boognish_bear said:

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AI aside, the US won’t produce adequate power using windmills and solar. Need more reliable energy including nuclear. https://t.co/ZfcEttmTbg

— Ron DeSantis (@RonDeSantis) November 24, 2025

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I've been told we are 18-30 months away from commercially available mini-nuclear plants which can be purchased like an oversized generator. Conceptually, imagine taking a nuclear propulsion system out of a Los Angeles class submarine, putting it in a container, and dropping it off at the jobsite. Quiet. Clean. Safe. (Ostensibly.)

Just wondering if the big centralized systems are dinosaurs. That is certainly true for sewer systems - cost of pipeline exceeds the cost of package plants. So we are seeing more decentralization, developments bringing in their own sewer treatment capability rather than hooking up to a major grid to flow stuff down hill over long distances. Same may turn out to be true for electricity......cost of transmission lines may exceed powerful on-site generation = no transmission loss.

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While many companies are developing small modular reactors (SMRs), few are commercially available, with China and Russia operating the only operational SMRs. China's HTR-PM is a grid-connected, onshore SMR that began commercial operation in 2023, while Russia has been operating its floating plant, Akademik Lomonosov, since 2020. Numerous other SMRs are in various stages of development, licensing, and construction worldwide, with many more designs being explored.

Commercially available SMRs

• HTR-PM (China): The first small modular reactor connected to a grid onshore, which began commercial operation in 2023. It is a 210-megawatt plant composed of two 105-megawatt reactor modules.
• Akademik Lomonosov (Russia): Russia's floating nuclear power plant, located in Pevek, has been in commercial operation since 2020.
• EGP-6 reactors (Russia): These are a smaller type of reactor that are built on permafrost and have been in operation for some time, though they are considered the world's smallest running commercial nuclear reactors.

Other SMRs under development

• Westinghouse Electric Company (US/Canada): Developing the transportable Eainci microreactor, with testing planned for 2026 and a goal of having operational reactors by 2030.
• X-energy (US): Developing the Xe-100 reactor, based on High-Temperature Gas-cooled Reactor (HTGR) technology.
• NuScale (US): Had a project planned for Idaho, but it was canceled in 2023 due to ballooning costs.
• Oklo (US): Developing various SMR designs.
• TerraPower (US): Developing SMR designs.
• Kairos Power (US): Developing SMR designs.

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AI aside, the US won’t produce adequate power using windmills and solar. Need more reliable energy including nuclear. https://t.co/ZfcEttmTbg

— Ron DeSantis (@RonDeSantis) November 24, 2025

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I've been told we are 18-30 months away from commercially available mini-nuclear plants which can be purchased like an oversized generator. Conceptually, imagine taking a nuclear propulsion system out of a Los Angeles class submarine, putting it in a container, and dropping it off at the jobsite. Quiet. Clean. Safe. (Ostensibly.)

Just wondering if the big centralized systems are dinosaurs. That is certainly true for sewer systems - cost of pipeline exceeds the cost of package plants. So we are seeing more decentralization, developments bringing in their own sewer treatment capability rather than hooking up to a major grid to flow stuff down hill over long distances. Same may turn out to be true for electricity......cost of transmission lines may exceed powerful on-site generation = no transmission loss.

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There is local resistance to data centers in some areas as they will drive up electricity costs for the locals and, after construction, provide few jobs. The better model is to build the power source and then the data center. A much easier sell to the locals is that their power bill could go down with a nearby data center.
local opposition, and I'm already dealing with it, is driven primarily by fear of and/or resistance to change, not higher energy bills. Almost all of the initial reactions are simply not well founded. The things are remarkably inoffensive compared to other potential industrial developments. There is no light pollution, noise pollution, air pollution, groundwater pollution, runoff water pollution at all. And energy costs are rising for reasons unconnected to data centers. Check out link...they cited state data showing increased energy costs, but the list of highest increases are NOT the states listed as where most of the DCs are located.
https://www.newschannel5.com/science-and-tech/artificial-intelligence/the-ai-rush-is-heating-up-the-power-grid-and-your-costs
The article also talks about "who foots the bill if the infrastructure is built but the DCs don't show up?" That has been my only demand. The DC developers don't want all that infrastructure debt on their balance sheet if they can avoid it, and I damned sure don't want my existing property tax roll put up as collateral for all that. Planes crash, hurricanes blow, meteors strike....it is simply not responsible to expose taxpayer to debt for which there might not be revenue to service. So we are looking at best options for public private partnership.....a separate entity to carry the debt collateralized by the infrastructure itself. we'll get it worked out.

All that's to say, increasing energy costs is a Western world phenomenon directly attributable to all the green energy nonsense - we quit caring about energy supply and cost. The solution is to drop the green energy nonsense in the ash heap of historical hoaxes and get serious about generating affordable energy (which is being done as we speak).

The Oklo reactors use spent fuel from the big nuclear power plants and, if my reading is correct, have no chance for a meltdown. I think we will need both....big reactors and small modular ones too.

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The critique that DCs create relatively few jobs given the amount of capital investment is a valid one. Flipside, though, is the value of the tax base. just one of the DCs I've been talking to will increase city budget by 8x. Comparable for school district.

That. Is. Transformative. For the private sector and the public sector.

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Good info. The resistance I'm mentioning is facebook mobs mainly. I've seen some negative media articles. Lots of emotion and disinformation out there.

For me, I vote for my elected leaders and hope they lead us in the right direction. As my career winds down, I hope to get more involved myself.

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AI aside, the US won’t produce adequate power using windmills and solar. Need more reliable energy including nuclear. https://t.co/ZfcEttmTbg

— Ron DeSantis (@RonDeSantis) November 24, 2025

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I've been told we are 18-30 months away from commercially available mini-nuclear plants which can be purchased like an oversized generator. Conceptually, imagine taking a nuclear propulsion system out of a Los Angeles class submarine, putting it in a container, and dropping it off at the jobsite. Quiet. Clean. Safe. (Ostensibly.)

Just wondering if the big centralized systems are dinosaurs. That is certainly true for sewer systems - cost of pipeline exceeds the cost of package plants. So we are seeing more decentralization, developments bringing in their own sewer treatment capability rather than hooking up to a major grid to flow stuff down hill over long distances. Same may turn out to be true for electricity......cost of transmission lines may exceed powerful on-site generation = no transmission loss.

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There is local resistance to data centers in some areas as they will drive up electricity costs for the locals and, after construction, provide few jobs. The better model is to build the power source and then the data center. A much easier sell to the locals is that their power bill could go down with a nearby data center.

The Oklo reactors use spent fuel from the big nuclear power plants and, if my reading is correct, have no chance for a meltdown. I think we will need both....big reactors and small modular ones too.

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There is currently a ton of resistance in the Waco area towards one planned for Bellmead (I think). I keep seeing lots of posts about it on social media, news articles, etc.

Lots of people spreading false information and others jumping on board with that to oppose it. Some of it is based in a little bit of fact but is getting blown out of proportion. Things like they use way too much water, hurt the power grid, cause a loud hum constantly, etc.

it's never been more over https://t.co/73BIMJFhy1 pic.twitter.com/n2pfdUQBdb

— vittorio (@IterIntellectus) December 2, 2025

The IBM CEO is basically doing the math and saying it doesn't add up. Building and operating a 1-gigawatt AI data center costs about $80 billion.

Companies are planning roughly 100 GW of capacity, which is $8 trillion total.

The problem is you'd need $800 billion per year in… https://t.co/63tQeQ4WkQ

— StockMarket.News (@_Investinq) December 2, 2025

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The IBM CEO is basically doing the math and saying it doesn't add up. Building and operating a 1-gigawatt AI data center costs about $80 billion.

Companies are planning roughly 100 GW of capacity, which is $8 trillion total.

The problem is you'd need $800 billion per year in… https://t.co/63tQeQ4WkQ

— StockMarket.News (@_Investinq) December 2, 2025

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dude is way off on costs.

Here's what I'm looking at under the hood.
1) a 1.2gw AI center with up to 10 buildings on a +500ac campus and on-site backup energy generation capacity is $2.5b. (which will receive normal tax abatements).
2) Tenants will lease the buildings and install $12-15b worth of equipment (which will receive relatively few abatements).
3) Atmos is going to bring a dedicated natural gas line.
4) BRA is going to provide 14mgd of water.
5) pipelines to move necessary water, effluent, sewer, will be an 8-digit number.

Total investment should not put a shadow on $20b.
Resulting tax revenue to county will be significant.
Resulting tax revenue to school and municipality will be transformative.
Follow on business development in the area will be significant.

Every new "revolution" sucks in Luddites like moths to flames.

It's the water and energy load which bother me, Whiterock. Those are limited, sometimes severely, and putting a data center ahead of the general public is just plain wrong.

That's not Luddite thinking, it's basic ethics.

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It's the water and energy load which bother me, Whiterock. Those are limited, sometimes severely, and putting a data center ahead of the general public is just plain wrong.

That's not Luddite thinking, it's basic ethics.

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Let clarify the actual situation for you.

Exactly one river in this country has gone dry before emptying into the ocean - the desert borne Colorado. Every other river empties water into the oceans, collectively in the hundreds of trillions of gallons. The Brazos alone discharges 1.8 trillion gallons into the GOA annually. That's 5.4 billion gallons per day. EVERY DROP of that water is owned by someone or something, so the discharge is lost revenue, lost wealth (public and private).

We do NOT have a water shortage. We have a disequilibrium between the location of supply and the location of need. Infrastructure can fix that. If only we had billions of dollars of infrastructure investments to fix that….. Oh, wait. We do.

And all along the routes of that infrastructure, others will be able to tap in, too. Capitalism is fabulous at solving problems like that with a bigger pie. But we have to let it do its thing.

So I guess all the lawsuits over the last half century about water rights were just kidding?


Hmm.

Morgan Stanley is trying to offload their garbage AI data-center loans onto unsuspecting investors 🚨 https://t.co/OfFEtySYWW pic.twitter.com/r1eC9fUHBD

— Financelot (@FinanceLancelot) December 3, 2025

🚨DeSantis to unveil legislation RESTRICTING AI DATA CENTERS in the coming days!

“In some parts of the country they're building massive hyperscale data centers that take a million gallons of water. We want our water to be for the general public, and not bogarted in that way.” pic.twitter.com/Xufxs04xEG

— Chris Nelson 🏝️🇺🇸 (@ReOpenChris) December 3, 2025

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So I guess all the lawsuits over the last half century about water rights were just kidding?


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Water rights wouldn't matter if there was no water.

For scale: BRA is reallocating water in Lake Whitney, moving capacity previously reserved for electrical generation over to water supply. The quantity being reallocated is 190,000 surface acre feet. Thats over twice the capacity of Lake Waco. (1 acre foot of water = 325,000 gallons.)
We are NOT running out of water.

It's a water cycle thing. Water doesn't disappear when used. It comes back to us over and over again. The limiting factor is whether or not it is economically viable to move it from where it is to where it's needed. These data parks do indeed use astonishing amounts of water, but they will pay a premium to purchase it via contract from those holding the rights and then pay the cost of moving it where it needs to go. What's lost to evaporation will eventually find its way back to our rivers as rain.

We are NOT running out of water.

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So I guess all the lawsuits over the last half century about water rights were just kidding?


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Water rights wouldn't matter if there was no water.

For scale: BRA is reallocating water in Lake Whitney, moving capacity previously reserved for electrical generation over to water supply. The quantity being reallocated is 190,000 surface acre feet. Thats over twice the capacity of Lake Waco. (1 acre foot of water = 325,000 gallons.)
We are NOT running out of water.

It's a water cycle thing. Water doesn't disappear when used. It comes back to us over and over again. The limiting factor is whether or not it is economically viable to move it from where it is to where it's needed. These data parks do indeed use astonishing amounts of water, but they will pay a premium to purchase it via contract from those holding the rights and then pay the cost of moving it where it needs to go. What's lost to evaporation will eventually find its way back to our rivers as rain.

We are NOT running out of water.

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You are arguing against something I did not say.

The problem is distribution. If a data center controls a significant amount of the water available in a certain area, that is the problem.

Nothing you have said addresses that very real problem.

As Al continues to develop we're committed to safeguarding Floridians' rights, data, tax dollars, and way of life.

Today, I was proud to announce new legislation that will establish an Artificial Intelligence Bill of Rights in Florida, as well as legislation that will protect… pic.twitter.com/58hbO6uLQl

— Ron DeSantis (@GovRonDeSantis) December 4, 2025

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So I guess all the lawsuits over the last half century about water rights were just kidding?


Hmm.

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Water rights wouldn't matter if there was no water.

For scale: BRA is reallocating water in Lake Whitney, moving capacity previously reserved for electrical generation over to water supply. The quantity being reallocated is 190,000 surface acre feet. Thats over twice the capacity of Lake Waco. (1 acre foot of water = 325,000 gallons.)
We are NOT running out of water.

It's a water cycle thing. Water doesn't disappear when used. It comes back to us over and over again. The limiting factor is whether or not it is economically viable to move it from where it is to where it's needed. These data parks do indeed use astonishing amounts of water, but they will pay a premium to purchase it via contract from those holding the rights and then pay the cost of moving it where it needs to go. What's lost to evaporation will eventually find its way back to our rivers as rain.

We are NOT running out of water.

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You are arguing against something I did not say.

The problem is distribution.
That's exactly what I said. Good news is, the Data Parks are going to pay to build more infrastructure to fix the distribution problem. And along the way, everyone else is going to benefit from it. I'm going to be running 3 miles of water pipe which will create surface supply for FOUR rural water systems operating on dwindling groundwater supply which is at/near drawing right caps. Helping Data Parks get water helps everybody.
If a data center controls a significant amount of the water available in a certain area, that is the problem.
Why is that a problem, if everyone else has enough water for their own needs?

Nothing you have said addresses that very real problem.
The actual problem is that your concerns are not a very real problem

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We are NOT running out of water. What we are out of is available tax base to raise capital to build more distribution capacity. Data Parks bring BILLIONS of dollars of tax base to do that. The planned data park I'm working with will TRIPLE our city budget. It will fix all the intractable problems the city currently faces, and it will allow us to take safer and more reliable water supplies to areas which literally cannot develop due to caps on water meter availability. A couple are currently not compliant on heavy metal contamination in their wells. (they were when originally drilled....it was the acceptable PPM levels that changed). It will allow us to put people on sanitary sewer rather than septic tanks. It will allow us to generate effluent supply to economize on water solutions overall. It will bring full time police & fire protection to areas currently running shoe-string VFDs with mostly grass-fire equipment.. It will bring asphalt streets with curbs & gutters. And on and on and on.

Yes, it is change. Yes, the DPs are going to affect the ambience of people next door. But for everyone else in the county, it's all good. Social contract is like that. A few people make a sacrifice, for which they are compensated, but society at large benefits.

It's going to take more tax base to work the problems we have. The Data Parks are high plateau jumps in tax base......

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As Al continues to develop we're committed to safeguarding Floridians' rights, data, tax dollars, and way of life.

Today, I was proud to announce new legislation that will establish an Artificial Intelligence Bill of Rights in Florida, as well as legislation that will protect… pic.twitter.com/58hbO6uLQl

— Ron DeSantis (@GovRonDeSantis) December 4, 2025

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Forward thinking. I'm not saying I agree with everything but DeSantis is a leader.

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I'm becoming a bigger and bigger fan of his

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Morgan Stanley is trying to offload their garbage AI data-center loans onto unsuspecting investors 🚨 https://t.co/OfFEtySYWW pic.twitter.com/r1eC9fUHBD

— Financelot (@FinanceLancelot) December 3, 2025

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The ignorance of these two posts is breathtaking. If you think the people buying participations in these loans are "ignorant" then you don't understand how markets work. I will readily admit that dummies with money are dangerous and generally quickly separated from their money. See, e.g., all of the towns on the west coast that let retired city workers manage their pension investments.

And what government is offering to bail out Larry Ellison and Oracle? They're just talking about credit default swaps, for corn sake.

Recent speculation, particularly on social media and in some news cycles, suggests that Larry Ellison's company, Oracle, might require a government "backstop" or bailout to cover massive AI-related investments, specifically large orders for Nvidia hardware. However, these are currently just rumors and a topic of debate within the financial and political spheres. This is all coming from the Twitter poster FInancelot

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Recent speculation, particularly on social media and in some news cycles, suggests that Larry Ellison's company, Oracle, might require a government "backstop" or bailout to cover massive AI-related investments, specifically large orders for Nvidia hardware. However, these are currently just rumors and a topic of debate within the financial and political spheres. This is all coming from the Twitter poster FInancelot

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The only people covering Oracle's AI infrastructure bets are (1) their bondholders (about $100B) and (2) their counterparties for Datacenter leases. Markets.

if Morgan Stanley is pulling out of data park developments, the decision to do so was made less than 5 days ago.

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if Morgan Stanley is pulling out of data park developments, the decision to do so was made less than 5 days ago.

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Definitely something they would do overnight, on a whim...

NEW - Gates says African farmers will have AI advisors, along with "better seeds and animal genetics" to become a "significant net food exporter." Using AI and their phone, they will be able to talk to the "doctor," the "tutor," the "farm advisor" and "pay nothing for it." pic.twitter.com/rhpGozFTHl

— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 6, 2025

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NEW - Gates says African farmers will have AI advisors, along with "better seeds and animal genetics" to become a "significant net food exporter." Using AI and their phone, they will be able to talk to the "doctor," the "tutor," the "farm advisor" and "pay nothing for it." pic.twitter.com/rhpGozFTHl

— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 6, 2025

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Will they own the land that they farm?

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NEW - Gates says African farmers will have AI advisors, along with "better seeds and animal genetics" to become a "significant net food exporter." Using AI and their phone, they will be able to talk to the "doctor," the "tutor," the "farm advisor" and "pay nothing for it." pic.twitter.com/rhpGozFTHl

— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 6, 2025

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I really need to see how the "tutor", "advisor" and so on will work for free, even if it's the AI.

There's strong reason to be suspicious of anyone promising all these great things for "free".

In this context, "free" basically means 'we're not telling you how we get money, just trust us'.

BREAKING: President Trump says he is signing a “one rule” Executive Order on AI this week.

“You can’t expect a company to get 50 approvals every time they want to do something,” Trump says. pic.twitter.com/X9gkjJB7yR

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) December 8, 2025

An executive order doesn’t/can’t preempt state legislative action. Congress could, theoretically, preempt states through legislation.

The problem is that Congress hasn’t proposed any coherent regulatory scheme but instead just wanted to block states from doing anything for 10… https://t.co/owWauZxRLk

— Ron DeSantis (@RonDeSantis) December 8, 2025

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NEW - Gates says African farmers will have AI advisors, along with "better seeds and animal genetics" to become a "significant net food exporter." Using AI and their phone, they will be able to talk to the "doctor," the "tutor," the "farm advisor" and "pay nothing for it." pic.twitter.com/rhpGozFTHl

— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 6, 2025

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I really don't get all these people saying AI will make everything free or replace all jobs.

Doesn't someone still have to pay for the data centers, servers, electricity, etc that AI needs?

How is AI going to do physical jobs? Even adding in robots there are so many jobs that robots cannot do. Or that people won't want robots to do.

How many people would want to drop their 2 year old off at a daycare with only robot workers? How will AI/robots teach pre-k or other grades where kids don't need to be on computers all day? How will robots get teens to work in schools. Break up fights. Etc.

Or do all the tough physical manual labor jobs that require climbing into attics, tight spots, etc.

I just don't see any of that happening any time soon. Or being cheap enough to replace many of those jobs.

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NEW - Gates says African farmers will have AI advisors, along with "better seeds and animal genetics" to become a "significant net food exporter." Using AI and their phone, they will be able to talk to the "doctor," the "tutor," the "farm advisor" and "pay nothing for it." pic.twitter.com/rhpGozFTHl

— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 6, 2025

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I really don't get all these people saying AI will make everything free or replace all jobs.

Doesn't someone still have to pay for the data centers, servers, electricity, etc that AI needs?

How is AI going to do physical jobs? Even adding in robots there are so many jobs that robots cannot do. Or that people won't want robots to do.

How many people would want to drop their 2 year old off at a daycare with only robot workers? How will AI/robots teach pre-k or other grades where kids don't need to be on computers all day? How will robots get teens to work in schools. Break up fights. Etc.

Or do all the tough physical manual labor jobs that require climbing into attics, tight spots, etc.

I just don't see any of that happening any time soon. Or being cheap enough to replace many of those jobs.

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Not any time soon, but dawn approaches for that kind of reality.

Our birth rate is below replacement rate. Same is true for the entire world except for Africa. In the West (US included), there is rising popular resistance to the use of massive refugee inflows to combat the approaching population decline, and even then, only Africa will be a source of people. So who is going to do the work? how do you keep civil infrastructure maintained as the number of people to pay taxes to hire people/things to maintain it begins to decline? (and on and on...)

The timeline for new AI world to come into a shape could run a century, or more. It won't start with massive job layoffs. We will see a progression where AI first starts to increase productivity.* Then, robotic tools will start to develop into widespread use. Not just doctors and architects, but carpenters and plumbers will have them. Then robotic assistants to hold & fetch & run errands. And on and on.... The transition won't be where one each stage renders the prior one quickly obsolete as happened with horse-drawn carriages and motor vehicles. Rather, each of those stages will continue to develop simultaneously, feeding off of each other, leading to broader and deeper scenarios of human/robot interface.

If we don't fix the birthrate problem, then robots will be the barrier between continued prosperity and a dystopian future.

*you are here

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boognish_bear said:

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NEW - Gates says African farmers will have AI advisors, along with "better seeds and animal genetics" to become a "significant net food exporter." Using AI and their phone, they will be able to talk to the "doctor," the "tutor," the "farm advisor" and "pay nothing for it." pic.twitter.com/rhpGozFTHl

— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 6, 2025

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I really don't get all these people saying AI will make everything free or replace all jobs.

Doesn't someone still have to pay for the data centers, servers, electricity, etc that AI needs?

How is AI going to do physical jobs? Even adding in robots there are so many jobs that robots cannot do. Or that people won't want robots to do.

How many people would want to drop their 2 year old off at a daycare with only robot workers? How will AI/robots teach pre-k or other grades where kids don't need to be on computers all day? How will robots get teens to work in schools. Break up fights. Etc.

Or do all the tough physical manual labor jobs that require climbing into attics, tight spots, etc.

I just don't see any of that happening any time soon. Or being cheap enough to replace many of those jobs.

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Not any time soon, but dawn approaches for that kind of reality.

Our birth rate is below replacement rate. Same is true for the entire world except for Africa. In the West (US included), there is rising popular resistance to the use of massive refugee inflows to combat the approaching population decline, and even then, only Africa will be a source of people. So who is going to do the work? how do you keep civil infrastructure maintained as the number of people to pay taxes to hire people/things to maintain it begins to decline? (and on and on...)

The timeline for new AI world to come into a shape could run a century, or more. It won't start with massive job layoffs. We will see a progression where AI first starts to increase productivity.* Then, robotic tools will start to develop into widespread use. Not just doctors and architects, but carpenters and plumbers will have them. Then robotic assistants to hold & fetch & run errands. And on and on.... The transition won't be where one each stage renders the prior one quickly obsolete as happened with horse-drawn carriages and motor vehicles. Rather, each of those stages will continue to develop simultaneously, feeding off of each other, leading to broader and deeper scenarios of human/robot interface.

If we don't fix the birthrate problem, then robots will be the barrier between continued prosperity and a dystopian future.

*you are here

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That all makes sense and I guess I should have clarified in my post that I don't see how it is going to happen so rapidly like so many are predicting. I don't see half of all jobs disappearing in the next few years because of AI and robots. I don't see all jobs being replaced within ten (like some of the tweets put on here predict).

It will take time. People will not just hand over certain things to robots (like childcare) until they see it is safe and proven.