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FDR's undeclared naval war against German submarines in the North Atlantic

LBJ's secrete bombing of Laos

Nixon's secret bombing campaign in Cambodia

Clinton's bombing campaign in Bosnia

Bush's bombing campaign in Iraq.

Obama's bombing throughout the Middle East


The list is almost endless.

But NOW some folks profess to be 'outraged' about Trump's bombing of 'poor fishermen' in ultra high speed boats.


Bull****

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The fact that you are characterizing Bush's bombing of the Middle East as "nobody cared then" really shows how bad your argument is.

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The fact that you are desperately ignoring how an entire series of presidents have engaged in international killing without congressional approval shows how ridiculous your Trump Derangement Syndrome is.

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Whoops. Many of the actions you posted had Cogressional approval. Not only are you wrong about that, but despite Congressional approval, a huge percentage of the country spike out against them, so you are wrong there too.

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Which had congressional approval.

Who said anything about public approval you goofus.

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You did, do you not remember?

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Goofus….you made the claim….now back it up.

Still wonder who pays your bills.

Must be someone hoping to acquire sainthood

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Always nice to see a cameo from Thing.

How are Gomez and Morticia, Thing?

WAR:

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Trump says US seizes massive Venezuelan oil tanker as showdown with Maduro erupts into new phase
The move is likely to further strain relations with Nicols Maduro's government

The U.S. has seized a Venezuelan oil tanker, President Donald Trump announced Wednesday, marking a sharp escalation in tensions with Caracas.
"We've just seized a tanker on the coast of Venezuela. Large tanker, very large. Largest one ever seized action. And, other things are happening. So you'll be seeing that later. And you'll be talking about that later with some other people," Trump said at the White House.
"It was seized for a very good reason," he added.
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I'm comfortable with this tanker seizing development, too.

Today, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Homeland Security Investigations, and the United States Coast Guard, with support from the Department of War, executed a seizure warrant for a crude oil tanker used to transport sanctioned oil from Venezuela and Iran. For multiple… pic.twitter.com/dNr0oAGl5x

— Attorney General Pamela Bondi (@AGPamBondi) December 10, 2025

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FDR's undeclared naval war against German submarines in the North Atlantic

LBJ's secrete bombing of Laos

Nixon's secret bombing campaign in Cambodia

Clinton's bombing campaign in Bosnia

Bush's bombing campaign in Iraq.

Obama's bombing throughout the Middle East


The list is almost endless.

But NOW some folks profess to be 'outraged' about Trump's bombing of 'poor fishermen' in ultra high speed boats.


Bull****

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The fact that you are characterizing Bush's bombing of the Middle East as "nobody cared then" really shows how bad your argument is.

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The fact that you are desperately ignoring how an entire series of presidents have engaged in international killing without congressional approval shows how ridiculous your Trump Derangement Syndrome is.

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Whoops. Many of the actions you posted had Cogressional approval. Not only are you wrong about that, but despite Congressional approval, a huge percentage of the country spike out against them, so you are wrong there too.

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Which had congressional approval.

Who said anything about public approval you goofus.

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You did, do you not remember?

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Goofus….you made the claim….now back it up.

Still wonder who pays your bills.

Must be someone hoping to acquire sainthood

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But NOW some folks profess to be 'outraged' about Trump's bombing of 'poor fishermen' in ultra high speed boats.

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You should get a checkup.

If you're wondering how cable news is reporting the US seizure of a Venezuelan oil tanker, here's CNN saying, "This is absolutely normal." pic.twitter.com/PWSDbiXs25

— Ken Klippenstein (NSPM-7 Compliant) (@kenklippenstein) December 10, 2025

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I'm not sure why libtards are being so obtuse on this. We are bombing cartel drug members/drugs. We are not allowing cartel bought judges to let these guys walk. We are killing them. Why is this an issue at all????

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Any time we are killing people, basically anywhere, and there is no war declaration, no self defense, just stopping future crimes before they happen, half the country will have a problem with it.

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And that half are on the wrong side of this issue. Also I very much doubt half are against bombing cartel drug boats. Give me some stats on this.

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I'm comfortable with this tanker seizing development, too.

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Myself too. Just try to keep "boots on the ground" not happening

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If you're wondering how cable news is reporting the US seizure of a Venezuelan oil tanker, here's CNN saying, "This is absolutely normal." pic.twitter.com/PWSDbiXs25

— Ken Klippenstein (NSPM-7 Compliant) (@kenklippenstein) December 10, 2025

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My understanding is that there is a Warrant for that ship from an US judge. This has been tried and received due process. Judge ordered get it. No issues at all here. IMO, this is the cleanest action in the Caribbean we have taken.


Maybe I am wrong, but I swear I read there is a warrant for that ship.

This is a good example of how it should work. Lot's of cooperation and seamless execution.

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If you're wondering how cable news is reporting the US seizure of a Venezuelan oil tanker, here's CNN saying, "This is absolutely normal." pic.twitter.com/PWSDbiXs25

— Ken Klippenstein (NSPM-7 Compliant) (@kenklippenstein) December 10, 2025

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My understanding is that there is a Warrant for that ship from an US judge. This has been tried and received due process. Judge ordered get it. No issues at all here. IMO, this is the cleanest action in the Caribbean we have taken.


Maybe I am wrong, but I swear I read there is a warrant for that ship.

This is a good example of how it should work. Lot's of cooperation and seamless execution.

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Bondi said that the tanker was sanctioned by the U.S. as part of an illicit oil shipping network for supporting foreign terrorist organizations.

But this is also a clear attempt to pressure Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro. And it's an attempt to pressure him through economic means, in the sense that it is an attempt to pressure Venezuela's exports of oil.

PBS.org

Maria Corina Machado is the Venezuelan opposition leader. She was campaigning in the election last year until she was barred from running in that election. She won the Nobel Peace Prize for her effort to bring democracy in Venezuela, but she's also endorsed President Trump's pressure campaign against Maduro.

And, today, Ana Corina Sosa, Maria Corina's daughter, accepted her mother's Peace Prize in Oslo and said in her mother's name that the Maduro regime had dismantled democracy and manipulated elections.

Ana Corina Sosa Machado, Daughter of Maria Corina Machado: Oil money became a tool to purchase loyalty abroad, while, at home, criminal and international terrorist groups fused themselves to the state. We have built new networks of civic pressure and disciplined disobedience, preparing for Venezuela's orderly transition to democracy.

That is how we reach this day, a day carrying the echo of millions who stand at the threshold of freedom.

PBS.org

Nick Schifrin:

An official close to Maria Corina tells me tonight, Amna, that she has left Venezuela and that she is arriving in Oslo overnight. She will speak to supporters at 2:00 a.m. local time.

And on her call for a democratic future of Venezuela, the question, of course, is will today's efforts or will the overall administration efforts so far get Maduro to actually leave? Experts like Ryan Berg say not quite yet. There is an expectation among multiple experts I talked to that there will have to be military strikes inside of Venezuela to convince Maduro to leave, finally once and for all.

And, until then, he's going to assume this is a bluff or he's going to really wait out the United States. But the bottom line, the U.S. military certainly has enough firepower if President Trump does order that.

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If you're wondering how cable news is reporting the US seizure of a Venezuelan oil tanker, here's CNN saying, "This is absolutely normal." pic.twitter.com/PWSDbiXs25

— Ken Klippenstein (NSPM-7 Compliant) (@kenklippenstein) December 10, 2025

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My understanding is that there is a Warrant for that ship from an US judge. This has been tried and received due process. Judge ordered get it. No issues at all here. IMO, this is the cleanest action in the Caribbean we have taken.


Maybe I am wrong, but I swear I read there is a warrant for that ship.

This is a good example of how it should work. Lot's of cooperation and seamless execution.

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Bondi said that the tanker was sanctioned by the U.S. as part of an illicit oil shipping network for supporting foreign terrorist organizations.

But this is also a clear attempt to pressure Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro. And it's an attempt to pressure him through economic means, in the sense that it is an attempt to pressure Venezuela's exports of oil.

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I agree. It was done with total transparency and within everyone's authority. Trump gave the Go order. No unique interpretations, no denying video to Congress. No grandstanding to the media. Everyone did their job... Thumbs up...

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KaiBear said:

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FDR's undeclared naval war against German submarines in the North Atlantic

LBJ's secrete bombing of Laos

Nixon's secret bombing campaign in Cambodia

Clinton's bombing campaign in Bosnia

Bush's bombing campaign in Iraq.

Obama's bombing throughout the Middle East


The list is almost endless.

But NOW some folks profess to be 'outraged' about Trump's bombing of 'poor fishermen' in ultra high speed boats.


Bull****

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The fact that you are characterizing Bush's bombing of the Middle East as "nobody cared then" really shows how bad your argument is.

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The fact that you are desperately ignoring how an entire series of presidents have engaged in international killing without congressional approval shows how ridiculous your Trump Derangement Syndrome is.

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Whoops. Many of the actions you posted had Cogressional approval. Not only are you wrong about that, but despite Congressional approval, a huge percentage of the country spike out against them, so you are wrong there too.

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Which had congressional approval.

Who said anything about public approval you goofus.

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You did, do you not remember?

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Goofus….you made the claim….now back it up.

Still wonder who pays your bills.

Must be someone hoping to acquire sainthood

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But NOW some folks profess to be 'outraged' about Trump's bombing of 'poor fishermen' in ultra high speed boats.

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You should get a checkup.

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Speaking of checkups, how did Tinkerbell's most recent one turn out?

Porteroso said:

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KaiBear said:

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Porteroso said:

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FDR's undeclared naval war against German submarines in the North Atlantic

LBJ's secrete bombing of Laos

Nixon's secret bombing campaign in Cambodia

Clinton's bombing campaign in Bosnia

Bush's bombing campaign in Iraq.

Obama's bombing throughout the Middle East


The list is almost endless.

But NOW some folks profess to be 'outraged' about Trump's bombing of 'poor fishermen' in ultra high speed boats.


Bull****

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The fact that you are characterizing Bush's bombing of the Middle East as "nobody cared then" really shows how bad your argument is.

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The fact that you are desperately ignoring how an entire series of presidents have engaged in international killing without congressional approval shows how ridiculous your Trump Derangement Syndrome is.

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Whoops. Many of the actions you posted had Cogressional approval. Not only are you wrong about that, but despite Congressional approval, a huge percentage of the country spike out against them, so you are wrong there too.

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Which had congressional approval.

Who said anything about public approval you goofus.

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You did, do you not remember?

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Goofus….you made the claim….now back it up.

Still wonder who pays your bills.

Must be someone hoping to acquire sainthood

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But NOW some folks profess to be 'outraged' about Trump's bombing of 'poor fishermen' in ultra high speed boats.

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You should get a checkup.

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You should get a full time job.

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If you're wondering how cable news is reporting the US seizure of a Venezuelan oil tanker, here's CNN saying, "This is absolutely normal." pic.twitter.com/PWSDbiXs25

— Ken Klippenstein (NSPM-7 Compliant) (@kenklippenstein) December 10, 2025

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My understanding is that there is a Warrant for that ship from an US judge. This has been tried and received due process. Judge ordered get it. No issues at all here. IMO, this is the cleanest action in the Caribbean we have taken.


Maybe I am wrong, but I swear I read there is a warrant for that ship.

This is a good example of how it should work. Lot's of cooperation and seamless execution.

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Bondi said that the tanker was sanctioned by the U.S. as part of an illicit oil shipping network for supporting foreign terrorist organizations.

But this is also a clear attempt to pressure Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro. And it's an attempt to pressure him through economic means, in the sense that it is an attempt to pressure Venezuela's exports of oil.

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who cares what the pole dancer has to say. It boils down to the usual with this clown show. Why won't they release the video #2?. What are they hiding? Epstein files? why won't they release in their entirety? Trump diddling?

FBI Says Seized Oil Tanker Near Venezuela Was Supporting Terrorist Groups

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attaboy pete and co!

wow!!

- el uncle fred

D!

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FBI Says Seized Oil Tanker Near Venezuela Was Supporting Terrorist Groups

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attaboy pete and co!

wow!!

- el uncle fred

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Was Dale driving the oil tanker?

pic.twitter.com/LxjyQi7xoY

— Aunt Lyn (@lynsioux) December 13, 2025

Recently, the President announced land strikes against Venezuela. No U.S. President is authorized to commit acts of war in a sovereign country without authorization from Congress. I cosponsored this War Powers Resolution to force Congress to vote “for or against” this action. pic.twitter.com/GfIaeQUiny

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) December 13, 2025

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Recently, the President announced land strikes against Venezuela. No U.S. President is authorized to commit acts of war in a sovereign country without authorization from Congress. I cosponsored this War Powers Resolution to force Congress to vote “for or against” this action. pic.twitter.com/GfIaeQUiny

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) December 13, 2025

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Let's hear it, Massey loves Cartels? Someone in Congress is trying to keep the Constitution like it was intended.

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Recently, the President announced land strikes against Venezuela. No U.S. President is authorized to commit acts of war in a sovereign country without authorization from Congress. I cosponsored this War Powers Resolution to force Congress to vote “for or against” this action. pic.twitter.com/GfIaeQUiny

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) December 13, 2025

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Let's hear it, Massey loves Cartels? Someone in Congress is trying to keep the Constitution like it was intended.

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What part of the Constitution isn't being followed?

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Recently, the President announced land strikes against Venezuela. No U.S. President is authorized to commit acts of war in a sovereign country without authorization from Congress. I cosponsored this War Powers Resolution to force Congress to vote “for or against” this action. pic.twitter.com/GfIaeQUiny

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) December 13, 2025

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Laos, Cambodia, Bosnia, Yemen , Syria, Lebanon, Sudan, Grenada, Cuba, Nicaragua, Philippines, Iran, and The Dominican Republic say hello.

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Massie's not the biggest tool in the Senate, but he is certainly a tool

When people suggest the looming war vs Venezuela is about drugs, remember 99 percent of the world’s cocaine comes from Colombia, Bolivia and Peru, not https://t.co/YYE7Kbvxto fentanyl is made in Venezuela
But it does have the world’s largest oil reserves. https://t.co/kVxpyWGPex

— Jennifer Griffin (@JenGriffinFNC) December 13, 2025

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When people suggest the looming war vs Venezuela is about drugs, remember 99 percent of the world’s cocaine comes from Colombia, Bolivia and Peru, not https://t.co/YYE7Kbvxto fentanyl is made in Venezuela
But it does have the world’s largest oil reserves. https://t.co/kVxpyWGPex

— Jennifer Griffin (@JenGriffinFNC) December 13, 2025

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And it has the money from oil to influence and organize the trade of anything on the region. So far it's choosing to support international drug cartels.

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When people suggest the looming war vs Venezuela is about drugs, remember 99 percent of the world’s cocaine comes from Colombia, Bolivia and Peru, not https://t.co/YYE7Kbvxto fentanyl is made in Venezuela
But it does have the world’s largest oil reserves. https://t.co/kVxpyWGPex

— Jennifer Griffin (@JenGriffinFNC) December 13, 2025

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And it has the money from oil to influence and organize the trade of anything on the region. So far it's choosing to support international drug cartels.

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However it is the largest distributor of cocaine if I remember what I read. Just look at a map and you can see how more coastline Venezuela has to the US in the Gulf vs Columbia. Columbia is jammed up against Central America. And Columbian smuggling has been under attack by the DEA for years

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When people suggest the looming war vs Venezuela is about drugs, remember 99 percent of the world’s cocaine comes from Colombia, Bolivia and Peru, not https://t.co/YYE7Kbvxto fentanyl is made in Venezuela
But it does have the world’s largest oil reserves. https://t.co/kVxpyWGPex

— Jennifer Griffin (@JenGriffinFNC) December 13, 2025

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And it has the money from oil to influence and organize the trade of anything on the region. So far it's choosing to support international drug cartels.

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Then why don't they just say that...

"CUBA IS RETURNING TO THE US' CROSSHAIRS"

U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio has long viewed regime change in Venezuela as a critical step toward weakening or toppling Cuba's communist government, due to the deep economic, security, and intelligence ties between the two… pic.twitter.com/iSLhh1U9i4

— WORLD AT WAR (@World_At_War_6) December 13, 2025

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Recently, the President announced land strikes against Venezuela. No U.S. President is authorized to commit acts of war in a sovereign country without authorization from Congress. I cosponsored this War Powers Resolution to force Congress to vote “for or against” this action. pic.twitter.com/GfIaeQUiny

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) December 13, 2025

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Laos, Cambodia, Bosnia, Yemen , Syria, Lebanon, Sudan, Grenada, Cuba, Nicaragua, Philippines, Iran, and The Dominican Republic say hello.

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Massie's not the biggest tool in the Senate, but he is certainly a tool

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Like a lot of politicians….they discover that they love the limelight. Then they get addicted to it.

So they say increasingly controversial things to keep within its glow.

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Recently, the President announced land strikes against Venezuela. No U.S. President is authorized to commit acts of war in a sovereign country without authorization from Congress. I cosponsored this War Powers Resolution to force Congress to vote “for or against” this action. pic.twitter.com/GfIaeQUiny

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) December 13, 2025

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Laos, Cambodia, Bosnia, Yemen , Syria, Lebanon, Sudan, Grenada, Cuba, Nicaragua, Philippines, Iran, and The Dominican Republic say hello.

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Massie's not the biggest tool in the Senate, but he is certainly a tool

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Like a lot of politicians….they discover that they love the limelight. Then they get addicted to it.

So they say increasingly controversial things to keep within its glow.

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MTG for another example.

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boognish_bear said:

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Recently, the President announced land strikes against Venezuela. No U.S. President is authorized to commit acts of war in a sovereign country without authorization from Congress. I cosponsored this War Powers Resolution to force Congress to vote “for or against” this action. pic.twitter.com/GfIaeQUiny

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) December 13, 2025

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Laos, Cambodia, Bosnia, Yemen , Syria, Lebanon, Sudan, Grenada, Cuba, Nicaragua, Philippines, Iran, and The Dominican Republic say hello.

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Massie's not the biggest tool in the Senate, but he is certainly a tool

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Like a lot of politicians….they discover that they love the limelight. Then they get addicted to it.

So they say increasingly controversial things to keep within its glow.

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MTG for another example.

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Trump?

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Recently, the President announced land strikes against Venezuela. No U.S. President is authorized to commit acts of war in a sovereign country without authorization from Congress. I cosponsored this War Powers Resolution to force Congress to vote “for or against” this action. pic.twitter.com/GfIaeQUiny

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) December 13, 2025

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Laos, Cambodia, Bosnia, Yemen , Syria, Lebanon, Sudan, Grenada, Cuba, Nicaragua, Philippines, Iran, and The Dominican Republic say hello.

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Massie's not the biggest tool in the Senate, but he is certainly a tool

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Like a lot of politicians….they discover that they love the limelight. Then they get addicted to it.

So they say increasingly controversial things to keep within its glow.

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MTG for another example.

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Trump?

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Yes. But he hardly has to say anything to be in the news cycle in some way. Jealous narcissists maybe?