ATL Bear said:Which is the most frightening part of all of this. From a geopolitical strategy standpoint, solving the Venezuela issue makes incredible sense. But then acting with impunity beyond laws and standards has broader impact long term also. I mean did we just out Russia, Russia in what they couldn't do in Ukraine? Was this a more violent/militaristic Mossadegh (Iran) type coup? Is the U.S. military now the Hemispheric DEA, which really is a facade for resource grabs?LIB,MR BEARS said:cowboycwr said:FLBear5630 said:
Ok, does process matter? Does the Constitution matter? I think based on the responses we have seen this year, it is something that deserves discussion.
Does following the Constitution and trying to follow the Constitution matter any more? OR, is finding creative ways around it through Executive Orders or waiting for the Courts the new way if the Executive Branch determines the ends justifies the means?
Honest questions. Because we are now at a point where we have creative Executive Orders and Sec of State's saying they do not have to tell Congress about using the military if the mission is deemed so. Nevermind, Trump's leaking comments...
They are picking areas that no one wants to fight, such as Maduro, drug dealers, etc. to set precedent. Now, Trump is saying we can do this more. Is Cuba, Panama Canal, Greenland on the table? As Trump said, Who is going to stop us?
Is that what we want.
What part of the constitution says the president has to tell Congress of military action/use?
Not war but use of the military.
Executive orders have been issued since the first President.
Congress likes to make noise in this regard but never wants to reign in the office because one day they, or their party will be in the office and they will want the option themselves.
And as you correctly point out, what happens if the next left leaning President decides Bukele (El Salvador) needs to be taken out for despotism and human rights violations? Congress has abdicated so much authority to the executive branch, it's becoming easier and easier to act autocratically from the Presidency whether one agrees or disagrees with the occupant or their pursuits.
Congress chose to fund raise rather than solve issues decades ago. It's a double edged sword that they've been willing to take a risk with because they're putting money in their pockets.
They're good with small wars so long as it enriches them.
PS it happens on both sides of the aisle.
