Oldbear83 said:

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Somali Sam has pivoted now from mocking the US arms stockpile to mocking Christ.

The first was foolish enough, but oh my.

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I'm not mocking Christ. Hegseth and our military leaders are.

Liar.

Sam resorting to lying about our arms stocks, Iran's arms, the character of our troops and officers, and now he smears Christ in his attempt to mock the men in harm's way.

So much unlike the old Sam

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🚨#BREAKING United States military officials have confirmed that thousands of Israeli and American-backed Iraqi Kurds have launched a ground offensive in Iran as things continue to escalate rapidly pic.twitter.com/w58KU9FAKQ

— R A W S A L E R T S (@rawsalerts) March 4, 2026

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whiterock, implications? Kurds trustworthy? I know they will fight, will they govern and work with the civilized Nations? Will the Iranians let them?

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Amazing development.

Kurds will certainly fight....they have a lot of old scores to settle.

But they do not have the numbers to take on the Iranian army.

Suspect Israel has made a lot of promises to the Kurds to get them to make a rash move like this .

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they don't have to take on the Iranian army. They need to show the Iranian. Army it's ok to fight the IRGC

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Doubt the Kurds have the numbers or hardware to fight the IRGC.

Unless Israel has promised the Kurds unlimited air support, and has somehow been stockpiling munitions within the Kurd's territory.

But I never saw this coming.....maybe I am wrong on all counts.

KaiBear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Somali Sam has pivoted now from mocking the US arms stockpile to mocking Christ.

The first was foolish enough, but oh my.

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And within a couple of days Sam will claim, still again, that he is Catholic.

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If anyone should see fundamentalist fanaticism for what it is, a Catholic should.

Thomas Massie just went nuclear on Trump’s war in Iran.

“Have we learned nothing from the wars … we sparked in the Middle East that racked up $8 trillion of debt in Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan?”

“The Secretary of State said that Israel forced … us into this war.”

“And… pic.twitter.com/XLWZeTOd6H

— Holden Culotta (@Holden_Culotta) March 4, 2026

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boognish_bear said:

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🚨#BREAKING United States military officials have confirmed that thousands of Israeli and American-backed Iraqi Kurds have launched a ground offensive in Iran as things continue to escalate rapidly pic.twitter.com/w58KU9FAKQ

— R A W S A L E R T S (@rawsalerts) March 4, 2026

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whiterock, implications? Kurds trustworthy? I know they will fight, will they govern and work with the civilized Nations? Will the Iranians let them?

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Amazing development.

Kurds will certainly fight....they have a lot of old scores to settle.

But they do not have the numbers to take on the Iranian army.

Suspect Israel has made a lot of promises to the Kurds to get them to make a rash move like this .

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they don't have to take on the Iranian army. They need to show the Iranian. Army it's ok to fight the IRGC

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Doubt the Kurds have the numbers or hardware to fight the IRGC.

Unless Israel has promised the Kurds unlimited air support, and has somehow been stockpiling munitions within the Kurd's territory.

But I never saw this coming.....maybe I am wrong on all counts.

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they were the first people I thought of........

- UF

dudes can fight - we can offer ample air support.

D!

Only a complete moron would conflate less than a week taking out Iran's leaders, facilities and warfighting ability with decades of military conflict trying to occupy multiple nations.

Well, or a Democrat, but except for Fetterman one would be the other by definition.

Sam Lowry said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Somali Sam has pivoted now from mocking the US arms stockpile to mocking Christ.

The first was foolish enough, but oh my.

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And within a couple of days Sam will claim, still again, that he is Catholic.

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If anyone should see fundamentalist fanaticism for what it is, a Catholic should.

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Suspect your wife is the Catholic and you merely tag along for the free friday night fish dinners.

Sam Lowry said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Liar.

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What does that mean?

Do you agree or disagree that Trump has been anointed by God to make war on Iran as part of a divine plan to usher in Armageddon and the return of Jesus?

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rosca de reyes and product liability - dis-gweese............

- el UF

D!

BID.

{ Suelten el Senor Jesus, Padres }

Read the expanded post.

Or better yet, take a few moments and consider that blaspheming is a sin even for fake Christians like yourself.

As for your hatred of our officers and troops, that may not be blasphemous but is truly slimy all the same.

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Military officials last year at the unveiling ceremony of an underground facility in Iran, housing hundreds of missiles.

Sepah news/ZUMA Press

Iran spent decades constructing underground bunkers to shield its vast missile arsenal from destruction. Less than a week into the war with its two most powerful adversaries, the strategy is beginning to look like a blunder.

U.S. and Israeli war planes and armed drones are circling over the dozens of cavernous bases, striking missile-carrying launchers when they emerge to fire. Meanwhile, waves of heavy bombers have dropped munitions on the sites, apparently entombing the Iranian weapons below ground in some locations.

Satellite imagery taken in recent days shows the smoldering remains of several Iranian missiles and launchers destroyed in U.S. and Israeli airstrikes near entrances to the "missile cities," as Iranian officials call the subterranean sites.

Tehran managed to shoot more than 500 missiles at Israel, at U.S. bases and at other targets in the Persian Gulf region, since the conflict began this past Saturday, although many have been intercepted, according to governments in the region. There have been fewer large salvos since the first days of the conflict, a sign that the U.S.-Israeli attacks are degrading Tehran's ability to strike back.

"We're hunting Iran's last remaining ballistic missile launchers to eliminate what I would characterize as their lingering ballistic missile capability," Adm. Brad Cooper, the top U.S. commander in the Middle East, said in a video briefing Tuesday. "We're seeing Iran's ability to hit us and our partners is declining."

Tehran appears to have moved some of its missiles and truck launchers out of the bunkers before the war began, hoping to protect them from attack by dispersing them. Cooper said the U.S. and Israel have destroyed hundreds of missiles, launchers and drones.

U.S. Central Command, which is conducting the air campaign, said Wednesday that Iran's missile launches have dropped 86% in four days.

Analysts said it is likely that much of Tehran's remaining stockpile of thousands of medium- and short-range missiles remains in underground bases whose locations are mostly known to the U.S. and Israeli militaries.

That underscores a fundamental flaw in the missile-city concept: "What was once mobile and difficult to find is no longer mobile, and easier to hit," said Sam Lair, a research associate at the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies, a research organization in Monterey, Calif.

With Iranian air-defense batteries largely neutralized, the U.S. and Israel are keeping slow-moving surveillance aircraft flying over known missile bases in some locationsand only attacking, using manned jet fighters or with armed drones, when they see signs of activity, analysts said.

A cluster of bases near the southern city of Shiraz appears to have been struck several times, according to analysts. Commercial-satellite photos released by the Martin Center show mobile missile launchers that had apparently exited one of the underground sites into a nearby canyon were destroyed before firing their missiles.

A March 2 satellite image of Shiraz, three days into the war, showed a reddish plume near one of the demolished launchers, indicating that nitric acid fuel was leaking from a missile. Several other launchers were destroyed, igniting a fire that appeared to have spread through the canyon, according to Lair.

At a base near Isfahan, a satellite on March 1 captured a photo of an undamaged missile launcher, apparently moving down the road near the facility. A crater in the road nearby suggested a U.S. or Israeli warplane tried to strike the vehicle but missed, said Lair.

A photo of the same site the following day revealed evidence of later heavy bombing of several entrances to the underground facility. Debris "from bunker buster munitions can be seen around both sets of tunnel entrances," Lair said in a social-media post. "Whether the entrances collapsed is unclear."

The entrance and nearby roads to an Iranian base near Kermanshah appeared to have been struck by heavy U.S. bombs, according to Lair, citing a March 3 photo by Planet, a commercial satellite imagery company

Iran is continuing to attack using armed drones and sporadic missile launches. It might be holding back some of its most powerful and longest-range missiles for use as a last resort if the regime appears in imminent danger of falling.

"No one can count their arsenal, which means there's a lot of uncertainty about how long they can last, which helps them," said Decker Eveleth, a research analyst with CNA Corp., a Washington think tank.

Tehran decentralized authority for firing missiles to prevent U.S. and Israeli strikes on its military and political leadership from crippling its ability to respond. Iranian commanders have said they can quickly replace destroyed missiles by building more, though adding additional launchers is more difficult.

Almost all of the dozens of missile bases are underground but have aboveground buildings, roads and entrances that make it possible to identify them from satellite photos, ccording to analysts. The Pentagon and Israel's military have spent years locating the facilities.

U.S. air attacks appear to be focusing on bases in southern Iran, while Israeli warplanes are mostly striking facilities in the north, analysts said.

The tunnel entrance to an underground missile base north of the Iranian city of Tabriz, which was visible in satellite photos taken last month, appeared to be collapsed in a March 1 photo, a sign that the facility had been targeted in airstrikes. Tunnel entrances at another site near Tabriz were damaged, a Planet image released by the Martin Center showed.

Three other missile bases in southern Iran, near the towns of Khorgo, Haji Abad and Jam, have also been hit, according to analysts.

The decision to attack surface targets reflects both the large numbers of Iranian sites as well as the limited availability of bunker-busting bombs in the U.S. arsenal that could penetrate beneath the surface and destroy the underground facilities, analysts said.

It also highlights the urgency for the Pentagon to knock out Tehran's missiles early in the conflict, or at least cripple its ability to fire them, before the supply of air-defense interceptors for knocking down incoming Iranian missiles is exhausted.

"These attacks are being carried out in waves, where they destroy two or three targets at a time," said Colin David, a former U.S. Army missile specialist and a researcher with Alma. "After multiple waves, the bases lose their effectiveness due to the loss of surface structures and launchers."

Separating fact from fiction about the missile cities has always been difficult. Iran released video footage in March 2025 of what it claimed was its latest large underground facility, showing senior commanders touring long, windowless corridors filled with missile-carrying trucks. The video didn't name the location.

At some bases, Tehran has built crude underground silos for firing missiles without having to bring them into the open. A base in southern Iran near the town of Khormuj is believed to have nine underground silos for firing missiles without bringing them to the surface, according to David. Primitive by U.S. standards, the silos are little more than deep holes dug into the side of a mountain that point toward the nearby Persian Gulf, flanking a paved entrance to the underground facility.

It is believed that Khormuj has a mechanical loader for moving missiles into the silos on train tracks, instead of on mobile launchers. Tehran released a video in 2022 showing a facility that resembled Khormuj without identifying the location, David said. It showed a half-dozen upright missiles moving along the tracked carousel in a cavernous tunnel.

But Iran has largely abandoned the idea of firing missiles from underground launch locations, according to Eveleth, owing to the technical difficulties of reusing silos.

Write to David S. Cloud at david.cloud@wsj.com
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Sam Lowry said:

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KaiBear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Somali Sam has pivoted now from mocking the US arms stockpile to mocking Christ.

The first was foolish enough, but oh my.

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And within a couple of days Sam will claim, still again, that he is Catholic.

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If anyone should see fundamentalist fanaticism for what it is, a Catholic should.

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Suspect your wife is the Catholic and you merely tag along for the free friday night fish dinners.

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Your record of being both wrong and weirdly intrusive remains unrivaled (although MR BEARS has his moments).

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Don't meet with the approval of the classic internet troll......I'm crushed.

Oldbear83 said:

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Liar.

Sam resorting to lying about our arms stocks, Iran's arms, the character of our troops and officers, and now he smears Christ in his attempt to mock the men in harm's way.

So much unlike the old Sam

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It's unlike old, new, or any other Sam, and no wonder. You're just making it up.

KaiBear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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KaiBear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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KaiBear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Somali Sam has pivoted now from mocking the US arms stockpile to mocking Christ.

The first was foolish enough, but oh my.

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And within a couple of days Sam will claim, still again, that he is Catholic.

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If anyone should see fundamentalist fanaticism for what it is, a Catholic should.

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Suspect your wife is the Catholic and you merely tag along for the free friday night fish dinners.

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Your record of being both wrong and weirdly intrusive remains unrivaled (although MR BEARS has his moments).

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Don't meet with the approval of the classic internet troll......I'm crushed.

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Makes two of us.

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Read the expanded post.

Or better yet, take a few moments and consider that blaspheming is a sin even for fake Christians like yourself.

As for your hatred of our officers and troops, that may not be blasphemous but is truly slimy all the same.

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Well, let's get back to my question. Do you agree or disagree that Trump has been anointed by God to make war on Iran as part of a divine plan to usher in Armageddon and the return of Jesus?

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Lucifer (Sam) go to sea
Be a hip cat, be a ship's cat
Somewhere, anywhere
That cat's something I can't explain
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Latest updates:

Here are some of the most critical developments unfolding in the US-Iran conflict:

• Iraqi Kurdistan govt statement: Not a single Iraqi Kurd has crossed the border. This is patently false.
• The U.S. Senate rejected a War Powers resolution that sought to force President Trump to end or seek congressional approval for military strikes on Iran, allowing the administration to continue operations without the restriction: CBS
• Iran says it hit US warship with missiles 600km away in Northern Indian Ocean using Ghadr 380 Talayieh missiles (1000+ range, can change course mid-flight) [Unconfirmed]

You got more of a respectful answer than you deserve, Sam.

Your contempt for our troops and their officers is disgusting.

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No, he means that having a lot of ships is not at all the same as having a lot of quality ships with well-trained crews. Back during the Cold War, one sign we were winning was when post Gorshkov the Soviets scaled back hard on ocean deployments. My Navy friends told me the Soviets no longer had a blue-water navy.

China wanted a legit navy, but soon discovered the cost, in ships and men, of making a true ocean fleet. China then defaulted to coastal patrols and a lot of trawlers .

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Exactly. China has built a navy whose first priority is to control straits very close to home thru which their oil supply flows. It is overwhelmingly small and/or littoral type ships aimed not so much at power projection as area denial of other powers (like USN).

So, yeah, in the waters between China and Australia, China is a formidable foe for us. Elsewhere…..not so much.

hoist of their own petard (part 2)

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Iran built the most comprehensive civilian surveillance network in the Middle East. Cameras on every street. Facial recognition at universities. License plate readers that automatically fined women for removing their hijab in their own cars. A mobile app called Nazer that let citizens report uncovered women. Drones at beaches. The infrastructure that killed Mahsa Amini in September 2022 and crushed the Woman, Life, Freedom uprising that followed.

Israel hacked nearly all of it.

According to the Financial Times, citing two people familiar with the matter, nearly all of Tehran's traffic cameras had been compromised for years. The footage was encrypted and transmitted to servers in Tel Aviv and southern Israel. One camera near Pasteur Street proved especially valuable. It was angled in such a way that Israeli analysts could see where members of Khamenei's security detail parked their personal cars. Through that single camera angle, Israeli intelligence built files on the bodyguards' home addresses, work schedules, commuting routes, and which senior officials they were assigned to protect.

Unit 8200 used algorithms to process billions of data points into what intelligence officers call a "pattern of life." A person familiar with the process described it as "an assembly line with a single product: targets."

"We knew Tehran like we know Jerusalem," an Israeli intelligence official told the Financial Times. "And when you know a place as well as you know the street you grew up on, you notice a single thing that's out of place."

On February 28, when intelligence confirmed Khamenei would attend a morning meeting at his compound near Pasteur Street, the operation entered its final phase. Israel disrupted approximately 12 cellular antennas in the area, causing phones to appear "busy" when dialed. Khamenei's security detail could not receive warnings. Israeli aircraft fired 30 precision munitions. The strike was carried out in daylight for tactical surprise.

Former Mossad official Sima Shine told the Financial Times that Israel's strategic focus on Iran dates to a 2001 directive from Prime Minister Ariel Sharon. Twenty-five years of patient intelligence collection culminated in a single Saturday morning.

Here is the part that should stay with you.

The cameras Israel hacked were not military installations. They were the regime's domestic surveillance apparatus. The same cameras that tracked women who removed their hijab. The same system that sent automated text messages to women in Isfahan accusing them of "improper veiling." The same infrastructure the Guidance Patrol used to build digital dossiers on Iranian women and girls for the crime of showing their hair.

Israel turned the tools of the morality police into the tools of the regime's destruction.

There is a viral claim that after the assassination, Mossad wiped the morality police's databases on Iranian women. No Tier 1, 2, or 3 source confirms this. It traces to a single unverified social media post. I will not present it as fact.

But the verified reality is extraordinary enough. The regime built a surveillance state to control its own women. A foreign intelligence service co-opted that state to kill the man who ordered it built. The cameras that watched women became the cameras that watched Khamenei die.

That is poetic justice written in code.

Shanaka Anslem Perera
@shanaka86
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You got more of a respectful answer than you deserve, Sam.

Your contempt for our troops and their officers is disgusting.

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I'll repost the question since you deleted it.

"Do you agree or disagree that Trump has been anointed by God to make war on Iran as part of a divine plan to usher in Armageddon and the return of Jesus?"

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No, he means that having a lot of ships is not at all the same as having a lot of quality ships with well-trained crews. Back during the Cold War, one sign we were winning was when post Gorshkov the Soviets scaled back hard on ocean deployments. My Navy friends told me the Soviets no longer had a blue-water navy.

China wanted a legit navy, but soon discovered the cost, in ships and men, of making a true ocean fleet. China then defaulted to coastal patrols and a lot of trawlers .

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Exactly. China has built a navy whose first priority is to control straits very close to home thru which their oil supply flows. It is overwhelmingly small and/or littoral type ships aimed not so much at power projection as area denial of other powers (like USN).

So, yeah, in the waters between China and Australia, China is a formidable foe for us. Elsewhere…..not so much.

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The stopped clock effect. Love it.

Realitybites said:

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Latest updates:

Here are some of the most critical developments unfolding in the US-Iran conflict:

• Iraqi Kurdistan govt statement: Not a single Iraqi Kurd has crossed the border. This is patently false.
• The U.S. Senate rejected a War Powers resolution that sought to force President Trump to end or seek congressional approval for military strikes on Iran, allowing the administration to continue operations without the restriction: CBS
• Iran says it hit US warship with missiles 600km away in Northern Indian Ocean using Ghadr 380 Talayieh missiles (1000+ range, can change course mid-flight)

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Is there a list of who voted yes or no on the War Powers?

***Edit*** Nevermind...AI is my friend... ofc Rand Paul was the only Republican to vote "Yes"... I already knew Cornyn and Cruz were total embarrassments

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The_barBEARian said:

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***Edit*** Nevermind...AI is my friend... ofc Rand Paul was the only Republican to vote "Yes"... I already knew Cornyn and Cruz were total embarrassments

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Cornyn and Cruz voted as they were paid to vote.

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Remind me how many times Congress voted on the War Powers Act during Obama's and Biden's little militancies?

Oldbear83 said:

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Realitybites said:

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***Edit*** Nevermind...AI is my friend... ofc Rand Paul was the only Republican to vote "Yes"... I already knew Cornyn and Cruz were total embarrassments

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Cornyn and Cruz voted as they were paid to vote.

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Remind me how many times Congress voted on the War Powers Act during Obama's and Biden's little militancies?

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Not enough.

Realitybites said:

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Latest updates:

Here are some of the most critical developments unfolding in the US-Iran conflict:

• Iraqi Kurdistan govt statement: Not a single Iraqi Kurd has crossed the border. This is patently false.
• The U.S. Senate rejected a War Powers resolution that sought to force President Trump to end or seek congressional approval for military strikes on Iran, allowing the administration to continue operations without the restriction: CBS
• Iran says it hit US warship with missiles 600km away in Northern Indian Ocean using Ghadr 380 Talayieh missiles (1000+ range, can change course mid-flight) [Unconfirmed]

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1. This makes more sense. Hard to believe the Kurds would put their heads on the chopping block. The next few days should clarify the situation.


2, More evidence how the Zionist lobbyists have bought off members of both political parties.


3. Hope not.......again the next few days should confirm one way or another.

We and Israel might have simply told the Kurds we are not stopping until we have defeated Iran in war. Only scenario i see where they'd want to jump in.

Not sure how accurate this may be...

BREAKING: Pete Hegseth and Marco Rubio are clashing over the U.S. approach to the war with Iran, three former U.S. officials and a senior regional official told Middle East Eye.

The two were described as “at each other’s throats” over whether the U.S. should deploy troops to… pic.twitter.com/2hXZderSxU

— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) March 5, 2026

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Not sure how accurate this may be...

BREAKING: Pete Hegseth and Marco Rubio are clashing over the U.S. approach to the war with Iran, three former U.S. officials and a senior regional official told Middle East Eye.

The two were described as “at each other’s throats” over whether the U.S. should deploy troops to… pic.twitter.com/2hXZderSxU

— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) March 5, 2026

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So who wants boots on the ground in Persia?

Rubio or Hegseth?

boognish_bear said:

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Not sure how accurate this may be...

BREAKING: Pete Hegseth and Marco Rubio are clashing over the U.S. approach to the war with Iran, three former U.S. officials and a senior regional official told Middle East Eye.

The two were described as “at each other’s throats” over whether the U.S. should deploy troops to… pic.twitter.com/2hXZderSxU

— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) March 5, 2026

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Don't worry, they have a back-up plan. They're just not sure what it is yet.