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First time huh? Do you believe that?

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If you know differently then please share.

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Operation Eagle Claw
Operation Frequent Wind
Evacuation of US Embassy in Yemen

Finding those three took about 4-5 minutes. I can certainly understand a reporter not having that much time to research something before making a false statement. I can also understand you lapping it up because it matches what you want to believe.

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So that's a failed hostage rescue in Iran, the evacuation of Saigon, and an embassy evacuation. What am I missing, how are any of those remotely similar to us airstriking our own vehicles and ammo dumps on purpose? I get that we scuttled some helicopters in those events, but I don't remember ever reading about doing it via airborne ordinance.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2014/8/8/5982501/the-us-is-now-bombing-its-own-military-equipment-in-iraq

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That was US aid to the Iraqi military, so while is was US manufactured I wouldn't necessarily call that "US equipment". Are you seriously going to the matt like this over one trivial statement by a CBS news journalist? It's ok to make a mistake sometimes, you don't have to dig the hole deeper.

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My first statement on this was "First time huh? Do you believe that?" You wanted proof from me so you got it.

Is anyone that proves you wrong and diagnosis your TDS going "to the mat" for something trivial? All you have to do is admit the reporter was wrong and you lapped it up. It's a common symptom of TDS.

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First time huh? Do you believe that?

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If you know differently then please share.

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Operation Eagle Claw
Operation Frequent Wind
Evacuation of US Embassy in Yemen

Finding those three took about 4-5 minutes. I can certainly understand a reporter not having that much time to research something before making a false statement. I can also understand you lapping it up because it matches what you want to believe.

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So that's a failed hostage rescue in Iran, the evacuation of Saigon, and an embassy evacuation. What am I missing, how are any of those remotely similar to us airstriking our own vehicles and ammo dumps on purpose? I get that we scuttled some helicopters in those events, but I don't remember ever reading about doing it via airborne ordinance.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2014/8/8/5982501/the-us-is-now-bombing-its-own-military-equipment-in-iraq

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That was US aid to the Iraqi military, so while is was US manufactured I wouldn't necessarily call that "US equipment". Are you seriously going to the matt like this over one trivial statement by a CBS news journalist? It's ok to make a mistake sometimes, you don't have to dig the hole deeper.

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My first statement on this was "First time huh? Do you believe that?" You wanted proof from me so you got it.

Is anyone that proves you wrong and diagnosis your TDS going "to the mat" for something trivial? All you have to do is admit the reporter was wrong and you lapped it up. It's a common symptom of TDS.

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Thing is, you haven't shown the reporter to be wrong at all. Her tweet wasn't just about leaving equipment behind or disabling it before a retreat, it was about airstriking our own equipment and ammo dump after we left it behind, and none of your provided examples show us doing that exact thing. You even kind of acknowledged that your examples missed the mark and tried to cover it up with a vague reference to Korea and WWII, but that was so imprecise I just left it alone.

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HuMcK said:

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HuMcK said:

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First time huh? Do you believe that?

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If you know differently then please share.

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Operation Eagle Claw
Operation Frequent Wind
Evacuation of US Embassy in Yemen

Finding those three took about 4-5 minutes. I can certainly understand a reporter not having that much time to research something before making a false statement. I can also understand you lapping it up because it matches what you want to believe.

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So that's a failed hostage rescue in Iran, the evacuation of Saigon, and an embassy evacuation. What am I missing, how are any of those remotely similar to us airstriking our own vehicles and ammo dumps on purpose? I get that we scuttled some helicopters in those events, but I don't remember ever reading about doing it via airborne ordinance.

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So you are focused on the air strike part?

why?

What does that matter?

We left billions of $ worth in Vietnam that the south Vietnamese then had to destroy as they retreated.

https://www.nytimes.com/1975/03/29/archives/arms-left-by-us-loss-by-saigon-force-called-catastrophic-1billion.html

We left Billions in Iraq and Afghanistan.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/scrap-heap-of-war-billions-in-equipment-being-left-behind-in-afghanistan


But now that we have left it and this time destroyed it to prevent it from being used by ANYONE you suddenly have a problem?????

What a joke.

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Read the underlying tweet that generated the chain you're responding to and see if you can't find the answer.

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No it does not answer my question.

Here is why.

After WW2, Korea and Vietnam we left billions of dollars worth of equipment behind after the war. In some cases it was scrapped by the citizens of the countries it was left in. In some it was rolled into their military. In some it was destroyed before an enemy captured it. But destroying it then meant setting on fire or planting explosives because an air strike did not have the technology needed for accuracy that we have today.


Since the technology has existed for pinpoint airstrikes when we have left an area/war zone we have left equipment behind with allies.... only to later bomb it when the enemy gets a hold of it.

So this time we are just skipping the inbetween and destroying it right away.

So my question still stands. Why does the fact it is happening by airstrike matter?

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First time huh? Do you believe that?

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If you know differently then please share.

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Operation Eagle Claw
Operation Frequent Wind
Evacuation of US Embassy in Yemen

Finding those three took about 4-5 minutes. I can certainly understand a reporter not having that much time to research something before making a false statement. I can also understand you lapping it up because it matches what you want to believe.

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So that's a failed hostage rescue in Iran, the evacuation of Saigon, and an embassy evacuation. What am I missing, how are any of those remotely similar to us airstriking our own vehicles and ammo dumps on purpose? I get that we scuttled some helicopters in those events, but I don't remember ever reading about doing it via airborne ordinance.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2014/8/8/5982501/the-us-is-now-bombing-its-own-military-equipment-in-iraq

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That was US aid to the Iraqi military, so while is was US manufactured I wouldn't necessarily call that "US equipment". Are you seriously going to the matt like this over one trivial statement by a CBS news journalist? It's ok to make a mistake sometimes, you don't have to dig the hole deeper.

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My first statement on this was "First time huh? Do you believe that?" You wanted proof from me so you got it.

Is anyone that proves you wrong and diagnosis your TDS going "to the mat" for something trivial? All you have to do is admit the reporter was wrong and you lapped it up. It's a common symptom of TDS.

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Thing is, you haven't shown the reporter to be wrong at all. Her tweet wasn't just about leaving equipment behind or disabling it before a retreat, it was about airstriking our own equipment and ammo dump after we left it behind, and none of your provided examples show us doing that exact thing. You even kind of acknowledged that your examples missed the mark and tried to cover it up with a vague reference to Korea and WWII, but that was so imprecise I just left it alone.

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Well if we play word games then yes you are right. This is the first time we have used airstrikes to blow up our own equipment, in an ammo dump, in Syria.......


but it is not the first time we have left equipment behind. The first time we have destroyed equipment, nor bombed equipment.

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HuMcK said:

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First time huh? Do you believe that?

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If you know differently then please share.

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Operation Eagle Claw
Operation Frequent Wind
Evacuation of US Embassy in Yemen

Finding those three took about 4-5 minutes. I can certainly understand a reporter not having that much time to research something before making a false statement. I can also understand you lapping it up because it matches what you want to believe.

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So that's a failed hostage rescue in Iran, the evacuation of Saigon, and an embassy evacuation. What am I missing, how are any of those remotely similar to us airstriking our own vehicles and ammo dumps on purpose? I get that we scuttled some helicopters in those events, but I don't remember ever reading about doing it via airborne ordinance.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2014/8/8/5982501/the-us-is-now-bombing-its-own-military-equipment-in-iraq

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That was US aid to the Iraqi military, so while is was US manufactured I wouldn't necessarily call that "US equipment". Are you seriously going to the matt like this over one trivial statement by a CBS news journalist? It's ok to make a mistake sometimes, you don't have to dig the hole deeper.

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My first statement on this was "First time huh? Do you believe that?" You wanted proof from me so you got it.

Is anyone that proves you wrong and diagnosis your TDS going "to the mat" for something trivial? All you have to do is admit the reporter was wrong and you lapped it up. It's a common symptom of TDS.

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Thing is, you haven't shown the reporter to be wrong at all. Her tweet wasn't just about leaving equipment behind or disabling it before a retreat, it was about airstriking our own equipment and ammo dump after we left it behind, and none of your provided examples show us doing that exact thing. You even kind of acknowledged that your examples missed the mark and tried to cover it up with a vague reference to Korea and WWII, but that was so imprecise I just left it alone.

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You are going to see what you want to see. It wasn't the first time but it's okay with me if you cannot accept that.

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HuMcK said:

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HuMcK said:

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First time huh? Do you believe that?

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If you know differently then please share.

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Operation Eagle Claw
Operation Frequent Wind
Evacuation of US Embassy in Yemen

Finding those three took about 4-5 minutes. I can certainly understand a reporter not having that much time to research something before making a false statement. I can also understand you lapping it up because it matches what you want to believe.

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So that's a failed hostage rescue in Iran, the evacuation of Saigon, and an embassy evacuation. What am I missing, how are any of those remotely similar to us airstriking our own vehicles and ammo dumps on purpose? I get that we scuttled some helicopters in those events, but I don't remember ever reading about doing it via airborne ordinance.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2014/8/8/5982501/the-us-is-now-bombing-its-own-military-equipment-in-iraq

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That was US aid to the Iraqi military, so while is was US manufactured I wouldn't necessarily call that "US equipment". Are you seriously going to the matt like this over one trivial statement by a CBS news journalist? It's ok to make a mistake sometimes, you don't have to dig the hole deeper.

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My first statement on this was "First time huh? Do you believe that?" You wanted proof from me so you got it.

Is anyone that proves you wrong and diagnosis your TDS going "to the mat" for something trivial? All you have to do is admit the reporter was wrong and you lapped it up. It's a common symptom of TDS.

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Thing is, you haven't shown the reporter to be wrong at all. Her tweet wasn't just about leaving equipment behind or disabling it before a retreat, it was about airstriking our own equipment and ammo dump after we left it behind, and none of your provided examples show us doing that exact thing. You even kind of acknowledged that your examples missed the mark and tried to cover it up with a vague reference to Korea and WWII, but that was so imprecise I just left it alone.

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Well if we play word games then yes you are right. This is the first time we have used airstrikes to blow up our own equipment, in an ammo dump, in Syria.......


but it is not the first time we have left equipment behind. The first time we have destroyed equipment, nor bombed equipment.

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Could have just stopped with the admission in bold, the rest is just an attempt at saving face. To my knowledge (and that of the CBS reporter, which remains undisputed despite LIB's attempts), we have never before used an airstrike to destroy equipment who's last possessor was our own soldiers. That's the unique part here, we had to retreat so quickly that an airstrike was necessary to destroy our own equipment. Not sure why that gets so much pushback, but whatever.

And the irony in you, of all people, griping about word games is pretty thick. Props to you for having the chutzpah to post that comment in writing.

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HuMcK said:

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First time huh? Do you believe that?

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If you know differently then please share.

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Operation Eagle Claw
Operation Frequent Wind
Evacuation of US Embassy in Yemen

Finding those three took about 4-5 minutes. I can certainly understand a reporter not having that much time to research something before making a false statement. I can also understand you lapping it up because it matches what you want to believe.

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So that's a failed hostage rescue in Iran, the evacuation of Saigon, and an embassy evacuation. What am I missing, how are any of those remotely similar to us airstriking our own vehicles and ammo dumps on purpose? I get that we scuttled some helicopters in those events, but I don't remember ever reading about doing it via airborne ordinance.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2014/8/8/5982501/the-us-is-now-bombing-its-own-military-equipment-in-iraq

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That was US aid to the Iraqi military, so while is was US manufactured I wouldn't necessarily call that "US equipment". Are you seriously going to the matt like this over one trivial statement by a CBS news journalist? It's ok to make a mistake sometimes, you don't have to dig the hole deeper.

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My first statement on this was "First time huh? Do you believe that?" You wanted proof from me so you got it.

Is anyone that proves you wrong and diagnosis your TDS going "to the mat" for something trivial? All you have to do is admit the reporter was wrong and you lapped it up. It's a common symptom of TDS.

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Thing is, you haven't shown the reporter to be wrong at all. Her tweet wasn't just about leaving equipment behind or disabling it before a retreat, it was about airstriking our own equipment and ammo dump after we left it behind, and none of your provided examples show us doing that exact thing. You even kind of acknowledged that your examples missed the mark and tried to cover it up with a vague reference to Korea and WWII, but that was so imprecise I just left it alone.

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You are going to see what you want to see. It wasn't the first time but it's okay with me if you cannot accept that.

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Like I said, if you know differently then please provide that citation. You haven't been able to able to, now you're mad about it and projecting your inability to accept it onto me (i.e. classic Trumpism).

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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HuMcK said:

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First time huh? Do you believe that?

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If you know differently then please share.

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Operation Eagle Claw
Operation Frequent Wind
Evacuation of US Embassy in Yemen

Finding those three took about 4-5 minutes. I can certainly understand a reporter not having that much time to research something before making a false statement. I can also understand you lapping it up because it matches what you want to believe.

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So that's a failed hostage rescue in Iran, the evacuation of Saigon, and an embassy evacuation. What am I missing, how are any of those remotely similar to us airstriking our own vehicles and ammo dumps on purpose? I get that we scuttled some helicopters in those events, but I don't remember ever reading about doing it via airborne ordinance.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2014/8/8/5982501/the-us-is-now-bombing-its-own-military-equipment-in-iraq

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That was US aid to the Iraqi military, so while is was US manufactured I wouldn't necessarily call that "US equipment". Are you seriously going to the matt like this over one trivial statement by a CBS news journalist? It's ok to make a mistake sometimes, you don't have to dig the hole deeper.

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My first statement on this was "First time huh? Do you believe that?" You wanted proof from me so you got it.

Is anyone that proves you wrong and diagnosis your TDS going "to the mat" for something trivial? All you have to do is admit the reporter was wrong and you lapped it up. It's a common symptom of TDS.

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Thing is, you haven't shown the reporter to be wrong at all. Her tweet wasn't just about leaving equipment behind or disabling it before a retreat, it was about airstriking our own equipment and ammo dump after we left it behind, and none of your provided examples show us doing that exact thing. You even kind of acknowledged that your examples missed the mark and tried to cover it up with a vague reference to Korea and WWII, but that was so imprecise I just left it alone.

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You are going to see what you want to see. It wasn't the first time but it's okay with me if you cannot accept that.

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Like I said, if you know differently then please provide that citation. You haven't been able to able to, now you're mad about it and projecting your inability to accept it onto me (i.e. classic Trumpism).

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I showed you several occurrences. You chose not to accept them. The strategy is called "denial of use" and many methods can be used including air-power.

You are literally whining about the method of destruction.

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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HuMcK said:

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First time huh? Do you believe that?

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If you know differently then please share.

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Operation Eagle Claw
Operation Frequent Wind
Evacuation of US Embassy in Yemen

Finding those three took about 4-5 minutes. I can certainly understand a reporter not having that much time to research something before making a false statement. I can also understand you lapping it up because it matches what you want to believe.

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So that's a failed hostage rescue in Iran, the evacuation of Saigon, and an embassy evacuation. What am I missing, how are any of those remotely similar to us airstriking our own vehicles and ammo dumps on purpose? I get that we scuttled some helicopters in those events, but I don't remember ever reading about doing it via airborne ordinance.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2014/8/8/5982501/the-us-is-now-bombing-its-own-military-equipment-in-iraq

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That was US aid to the Iraqi military, so while is was US manufactured I wouldn't necessarily call that "US equipment". Are you seriously going to the matt like this over one trivial statement by a CBS news journalist? It's ok to make a mistake sometimes, you don't have to dig the hole deeper.

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It's not one trivial statement, as I'm sure you know. It's part of a narrative accusing Trump (as always) of something supposedly unprecedented which turns out to be quite routine.

For example, from Newsweek:

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The incident marks the first known instance of the U.S. having to destroy their own equipment, and was carried out after Trump executed his recent decision to withdraw troops out of areas in northern Syria.

https://www.newsweek.com/republican-congressman-condemns-trump-over-reports-us-bombed-own-munitions-storage-bunker-syria-1465848

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I'm sorry, but this is just stupid. LIB isn't the one who needs to be saving face here. This kind of thing happens all the time. The military produces manuals on how and when to do it.

McRaven pointed out what he said were examples of the US neglecting its duty to be the "the protectors of the less fortunate" - including Trump's recent decision to withdraw troops from Syria as Turkish-backed militants wage war against the once US-backed Kurdish militia.

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First time huh? Do you believe that?

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If you know differently then please share.

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Operation Eagle Claw
Operation Frequent Wind
Evacuation of US Embassy in Yemen

Finding those three took about 4-5 minutes. I can certainly understand a reporter not having that much time to research something before making a false statement. I can also understand you lapping it up because it matches what you want to believe.

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So that's a failed hostage rescue in Iran, the evacuation of Saigon, and an embassy evacuation. What am I missing, how are any of those remotely similar to us airstriking our own vehicles and ammo dumps on purpose? I get that we scuttled some helicopters in those events, but I don't remember ever reading about doing it via airborne ordinance.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2014/8/8/5982501/the-us-is-now-bombing-its-own-military-equipment-in-iraq

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That was US aid to the Iraqi military, so while is was US manufactured I wouldn't necessarily call that "US equipment". Are you seriously going to the matt like this over one trivial statement by a CBS news journalist? It's ok to make a mistake sometimes, you don't have to dig the hole deeper.

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My first statement on this was "First time huh? Do you believe that?" You wanted proof from me so you got it.

Is anyone that proves you wrong and diagnosis your TDS going "to the mat" for something trivial? All you have to do is admit the reporter was wrong and you lapped it up. It's a common symptom of TDS.

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Thing is, you haven't shown the reporter to be wrong at all. Her tweet wasn't just about leaving equipment behind or disabling it before a retreat, it was about airstriking our own equipment and ammo dump after we left it behind, and none of your provided examples show us doing that exact thing. You even kind of acknowledged that your examples missed the mark and tried to cover it up with a vague reference to Korea and WWII, but that was so imprecise I just left it alone.

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Well if we play word games then yes you are right. This is the first time we have used airstrikes to blow up our own equipment, in an ammo dump, in Syria.......


but it is not the first time we have left equipment behind. The first time we have destroyed equipment, nor bombed equipment.

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Could have just stopped with the admission in bold, the rest is just an attempt at saving face. To my knowledge (and that of the CBS reporter, which remains undisputed despite LIB's attempts), we have never before used an airstrike to destroy equipment who's last possessor was our own soldiers. That's the unique part here, we had to retreat so quickly that an airstrike was necessary to destroy our own equipment. Not sure why that gets so much pushback, but whatever.

And the irony in you, of all people, griping about word games is pretty thick. Props to you for having the chutzpah to post that comment in writing.

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There is nothing to admit. Other than you are an idiot.

We didn't retreat. We left. By our own choice.

We didn't want to take everything and couldn't. So we blew it up. By an air strike because that is the safest way.

Why you make such a big deal about it is stupid. It is a stretch to try and attack Trump about this. But if he didn't blow it up and someone used it against us you would cry about that.

And continue to ignore that Obama left equipment behind, let it get taken by our enemies and then decided to blow it up.

So yes by all means continue to focus on the air strike and pretend it is the first time we have used an air strike to blow up our own equipment when you have been proven wrong and shown we have done it before.

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First time huh? Do you believe that?

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If you know differently then please share.

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Operation Eagle Claw
Operation Frequent Wind
Evacuation of US Embassy in Yemen

Finding those three took about 4-5 minutes. I can certainly understand a reporter not having that much time to research something before making a false statement. I can also understand you lapping it up because it matches what you want to believe.

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So that's a failed hostage rescue in Iran, the evacuation of Saigon, and an embassy evacuation. What am I missing, how are any of those remotely similar to us airstriking our own vehicles and ammo dumps on purpose? I get that we scuttled some helicopters in those events, but I don't remember ever reading about doing it via airborne ordinance.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2014/8/8/5982501/the-us-is-now-bombing-its-own-military-equipment-in-iraq

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That was US aid to the Iraqi military, so while is was US manufactured I wouldn't necessarily call that "US equipment". Are you seriously going to the matt like this over one trivial statement by a CBS news journalist? It's ok to make a mistake sometimes, you don't have to dig the hole deeper.

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My first statement on this was "First time huh? Do you believe that?" You wanted proof from me so you got it.

Is anyone that proves you wrong and diagnosis your TDS going "to the mat" for something trivial? All you have to do is admit the reporter was wrong and you lapped it up. It's a common symptom of TDS.

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Thing is, you haven't shown the reporter to be wrong at all. Her tweet wasn't just about leaving equipment behind or disabling it before a retreat, it was about airstriking our own equipment and ammo dump after we left it behind, and none of your provided examples show us doing that exact thing. You even kind of acknowledged that your examples missed the mark and tried to cover it up with a vague reference to Korea and WWII, but that was so imprecise I just left it alone.

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You are going to see what you want to see. It wasn't the first time but it's okay with me if you cannot accept that.

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Like I said, if you know differently then please provide that citation. You haven't been able to able to, now you're mad about it and projecting your inability to accept it onto me (i.e. classic Trumpism).

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It has been shown to you. With the article about us blowing up our own equipment after leaving Iraq.... by air strike......

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HuMcK said:

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First time huh? Do you believe that?

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If you know differently then please share.

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Operation Eagle Claw
Operation Frequent Wind
Evacuation of US Embassy in Yemen

Finding those three took about 4-5 minutes. I can certainly understand a reporter not having that much time to research something before making a false statement. I can also understand you lapping it up because it matches what you want to believe.

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So that's a failed hostage rescue in Iran, the evacuation of Saigon, and an embassy evacuation. What am I missing, how are any of those remotely similar to us airstriking our own vehicles and ammo dumps on purpose? I get that we scuttled some helicopters in those events, but I don't remember ever reading about doing it via airborne ordinance.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2014/8/8/5982501/the-us-is-now-bombing-its-own-military-equipment-in-iraq

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That was US aid to the Iraqi military, so while is was US manufactured I wouldn't necessarily call that "US equipment". Are you seriously going to the matt like this over one trivial statement by a CBS news journalist? It's ok to make a mistake sometimes, you don't have to dig the hole deeper.

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My first statement on this was "First time huh? Do you believe that?" You wanted proof from me so you got it.

Is anyone that proves you wrong and diagnosis your TDS going "to the mat" for something trivial? All you have to do is admit the reporter was wrong and you lapped it up. It's a common symptom of TDS.

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Thing is, you haven't shown the reporter to be wrong at all. Her tweet wasn't just about leaving equipment behind or disabling it before a retreat, it was about airstriking our own equipment and ammo dump after we left it behind, and none of your provided examples show us doing that exact thing. You even kind of acknowledged that your examples missed the mark and tried to cover it up with a vague reference to Korea and WWII, but that was so imprecise I just left it alone.

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You are going to see what you want to see. It wasn't the first time but it's okay with me if you cannot accept that.

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Like I said, if you know differently then please provide that citation. You haven't been able to able to, now you're mad about it and projecting your inability to accept it onto me (i.e. classic Trumpism).

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It has been shown to you. With the article about us blowing up our own equipment after leaving Iraq.... by air strike......

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That's good thing? It was a hasty, stupid retreat of DT's making, hence chaos, expensive, inhumane, and stupid.

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First time huh? Do you believe that?

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If you know differently then please share.

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Operation Eagle Claw
Operation Frequent Wind
Evacuation of US Embassy in Yemen

Finding those three took about 4-5 minutes. I can certainly understand a reporter not having that much time to research something before making a false statement. I can also understand you lapping it up because it matches what you want to believe.

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So that's a failed hostage rescue in Iran, the evacuation of Saigon, and an embassy evacuation. What am I missing, how are any of those remotely similar to us airstriking our own vehicles and ammo dumps on purpose? I get that we scuttled some helicopters in those events, but I don't remember ever reading about doing it via airborne ordinance.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2014/8/8/5982501/the-us-is-now-bombing-its-own-military-equipment-in-iraq

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That was US aid to the Iraqi military, so while is was US manufactured I wouldn't necessarily call that "US equipment". Are you seriously going to the matt like this over one trivial statement by a CBS news journalist? It's ok to make a mistake sometimes, you don't have to dig the hole deeper.

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My first statement on this was "First time huh? Do you believe that?" You wanted proof from me so you got it.

Is anyone that proves you wrong and diagnosis your TDS going "to the mat" for something trivial? All you have to do is admit the reporter was wrong and you lapped it up. It's a common symptom of TDS.

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Thing is, you haven't shown the reporter to be wrong at all. Her tweet wasn't just about leaving equipment behind or disabling it before a retreat, it was about airstriking our own equipment and ammo dump after we left it behind, and none of your provided examples show us doing that exact thing. You even kind of acknowledged that your examples missed the mark and tried to cover it up with a vague reference to Korea and WWII, but that was so imprecise I just left it alone.

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You are going to see what you want to see. It wasn't the first time but it's okay with me if you cannot accept that.

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Like I said, if you know differently then please provide that citation. You haven't been able to able to, now you're mad about it and projecting your inability to accept it onto me (i.e. classic Trumpism).

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It has been shown to you. With the article about us blowing up our own equipment after leaving Iraq.... by air strike......

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That's good thing? It was a hasty, stupid retreat of DT's making, hence chaos, expensive, inhumane, and stupid.

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Lol

It's a retreat when trump does it.

But when your savior Obama does it it is a pull out and you ignore the cost (even though it was billions more) and led to this current mess.

Ahhhh! That response begs the question. This pullout is on dt.

What most people don't realize is that Putin won this game a long time ago. By insisting on regime change in Syria, the Obama administration doomed any peace talks and opened the door for Russia to broker a deal between Syria and Turkey. All Trump is doing, unlike some other presidents, is to acknowledge the reality of the situation and spare our troops the trouble of standing in the way.

If you want to know how we lost credibility in the Middle East, don't look at Trump. Look at the old, unimaginative policies of his predecessors.

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What most people don't realize is that Putin won this game a long time ago. By insisting on regime change in Syria, the Obama administration doomed any peace talks and opened the door for Russia to broker a deal between Syria and Turkey. All Trump is doing, unlike some other presidents, is to acknowledge the reality of the situation and spare our troops the trouble of standing in the way.

If you want to know how we lost credibility in the Middle East, don't look at Trump. Look at the old, unimaginative policies of his predecessors.

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On his watch. That's how the game is scored around here.

All glory to Trump: the sun came up today.

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What most people don't realize is that Putin won this game a long time ago. By insisting on regime change in Syria, the Obama administration doomed any peace talks and opened the door for Russia to broker a deal between Syria and Turkey. All Trump is doing, unlike some other presidents, is to acknowledge the reality of the situation and spare our troops the trouble of standing in the way.

If you want to know how we lost credibility in the Middle East, don't look at Trump. Look at the old, unimaginative policies of his predecessors.

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On his watch. That's how the game is scored around here.

All glory to Trump: the sun came up today.

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I don't know how other people score it, but you didn't see me blaming Obama for Bush's mistakes in Iraq. He made all new ones (or the same ones in a new venue), which Trump now has to deal with.

The good news is that instead of doubling down, Trump is opening the conversation to better ideas.

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What most people don't realize is that Putin won this game a long time ago. By insisting on regime change in Syria, the Obama administration doomed any peace talks and opened the door for Russia to broker a deal between Syria and Turkey. All Trump is doing, unlike some other presidents, is to acknowledge the reality of the situation and spare our troops the trouble of standing in the way.

If you want to know how we lost credibility in the Middle East, don't look at Trump. Look at the old, unimaginative policies of his predecessors.

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On his watch. That's how the game is scored around here.

All glory to Trump: the sun came up today.

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I don't know how other people score it, but you didn't see me blaming Obama for Bush's mistakes in Iraq. He made all new ones (or the same ones in a new venue), which Trump now has to deal with.

The good news is that instead of doubling down, Trump is opening the conversation to better ideas.

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Let's hope he hears one he likes. GTFO is my favorite.