New Ian McCaw Deposition

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Porteroso said:

This is such a colossal sh!storm. While I partially believe Ian, I can't help but to wonder at calling all of the regents racist. I can believe that the regents wanted bad stuff swept under the rug, but Ian by default must have been a part of that. He was the athletic director, not the fitness coach.

I would guess that his assessment of the regents is mostly accurate, but that calling them racist is an attempt to distance himself. I don't think it will work, now that this is public. There's no way that damning emails don't come out about Ian now.

In the end, the whole thing is so sad, and even more, so bad, and only going to get a lot worse. I hope Ian loses his job, I just cannot believe he is so full of integrity, if he knew of all of this, for so long, and only resigned once it started coming out. I really think Starr and briles might end up being the only upstanding ones in this mess, when all the facts are out. Probably 10 years from now. No wonder the board has remained silent.


They can all be racist or none be racist. Sometimes you just have to NOT be bubbled. When you're bubbled, you can foolishly believe you can spin a story in a way where everyone will agree with you.

All these things are fixed on the front end. They're fixed in policy and in board selection.
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Doc Holliday said:


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McCaw said Pepper Hamilton attorneys told him there would be three potential outcomes to their report: a "detailed document," a "summary report," or "to whitewash the whole thing." He said it was ultimately decided that Baylor regent J. Cary Gray would write a "false" and "misleading finding of fact skewed to make the football program look bad and cover up the campus-wide failings."
Yep.

I know it, you know it, we all know it.
some people on this board owe me an apology. I have been saying this from the beginning.
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TV55 said:

Forest Bueller said:

Porteroso said:

This is such a colossal sh!storm. While I partially believe Ian, I can't help but to wonder at calling all of the regents racist. I can believe that the regents wanted bad stuff swept under the rug, but Ian by default must have been a part of that. He was the athletic director, not the fitness coach.

I would guess that his assessment of the regents is mostly accurate, but that calling them racist is an attempt to distance himself. I don't think it will work, now that this is public. There's no way that damning emails don't come out about Ian now.

In the end, the whole thing is so sad, and even more, so bad, and only going to get a lot worse. I hope Ian loses his job, I just cannot believe he is so full of integrity, if he knew of all of this, for so long, and only resigned once it started coming out. I really think Starr and briles might end up being the only upstanding ones in this mess, when all the facts are out. Probably 10 years from now. No wonder the board has remained silent.
Yea, jackass move trying to label them all as racist. There was plenty of ammo without that.


The unfortunate irony of McCaw's accusations here are that they also likely sink any remaining chances of Briles coaching again. No one touches a coach where the R word has been referenced. Nobody.
Yep. Seen coaches actually survive or thrive when there were assault issues. Jimbo to aTm being a primary example.

If Briles had just shut up for a couple of years, he probably would have survived too.
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xiledinok said:

Osodecentx said:

xiledinok said:

Osodecentx said:

xiledinok said:

Ribbon clerk, this is America, you should have covered your tail with those phones.
Those text messages burn you badly.
The Canadian was the regent's boy.
Good to see he has the same character to cover his ass as to cover up.

Ian cannot get a job anywhere he wants to these days, so it's back to the drawing board for him. He must attack failed regent leadership. Another sideshow that will most likely end badly for McCaw.

Lying racist regents

Ian's cards are so bad that he's only left playing the race card.
There were reports on other websites that laid out the issues Baylor had with athletics. It was a Longhorn website. Pretty bad for Ian.
Instead of covering ass, all he had to do was have a few bad apples kicked off and everything would have been good. He has no one to blame but his white ass.
McCaw said he resigned because he "did not want to be part of some Enron cover-up scheme."

You can defend BOFR. McCaw tells the truth
He was basically fired. The regents needed him in place to fire Briles. Ian was getting fired and if it is Enron, who is Ian, Ken Lay or Jeff Skilling?
He wouldn't lie for BOFR

He quit
Gust Avrakotos
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where the F are Soze and The Dom?
GruntTuff
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I'm busy right now, but will someone please explain to this gentleman who "Buddy" and "Deary" are. And by the way, it's Dary, not Deary.

I find it borderline hilarious that anyone would have the audacity to respond with supposed authority to this issue and have no idea who "Buddy" and "Deary" are, and how their fingerprints are on the whole issue of how the Baylor BOR functioned in the past and continues until today.

And if no one has the time to bring him up to speed, he might just try using Google to learn a bit about Buddy and Deary and their association with Baylor.
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Osodecentx said:

xiledinok said:

Osodecentx said:

xiledinok said:

Osodecentx said:

xiledinok said:

Ribbon clerk, this is America, you should have covered your tail with those phones.
Those text messages burn you badly.
The Canadian was the regent's boy.
Good to see he has the same character to cover his ass as to cover up.

Ian cannot get a job anywhere he wants to these days, so it's back to the drawing board for him. He must attack failed regent leadership. Another sideshow that will most likely end badly for McCaw.

Lying racist regents

Ian's cards are so bad that he's only left playing the race card.
There were reports on other websites that laid out the issues Baylor had with athletics. It was a Longhorn website. Pretty bad for Ian.
Instead of covering ass, all he had to do was have a few bad apples kicked off and everything would have been good. He has no one to blame but his white ass.
McCaw said he resigned because he "did not want to be part of some Enron cover-up scheme."

You can defend BOFR. McCaw tells the truth
He was basically fired. The regents needed him in place to fire Briles. Ian was getting fired and if it is Enron, who is Ian, Ken Lay or Jeff Skilling?
He wouldn't lie for BOFR

He quit


You've always defended the boy. Did it occur to you that he might have lied to you?
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Robert Wilson
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Gust Avrakotos said:

where the F are Soze and The Dom?
Talking points are being developed.
xiledinok
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Wait till PH and Bunning start hitting back.
I thought Briles ended up in the worse position than anyone else. Ian is going to be stuck at Liberty for life and he knows it. He eliminated any chance for the major players to coach again or handle again.
I don't know why Ian and crew want to act like football's numbers weren't exponentially higher than the normal students or specific groups with similar numbers on campus. Call it "Paul Harvey's 'The rest of the story AND the real rest of the story". Great manipulation for carnival workers and angry old church ladies.
Party Crawford's big moment on tv came opposite of the World Series with the Chicago Cubs playing in the series. It is forgotten and reeled of sour grapes. It was a pop out to second but no one outside of Baylor took notice.
Chicago Cubs WS versus ______________________.

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xiledinok said:

Ian is going to be stuck at Liberty for life
If so, we'll always be 0-1 against him.
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Robert Wilson said:

xiledinok said:

Ian is going to be stuck at Liberty for life
If so, we'll always be 0-1 against him.
He is at Liberty and life is not a football game. Do you believe he won?
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Just remeber that this is not a report by a disinterested party seeking the truth, and it isn't even an interview given by a disgruntled former employee. It is a filing by an attorney trying to force more discovery for an ongoing lawsuit and is based in part on a sealed deposition. As such, we do not know what McCaw actually said or whether the characterization of what he said is fair or accurate.
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Supposition here, but gave me a grin: So, Ian gets served with a subpoena in January. He marches in to Falwell, Jr. and shows him what he just received. "Jerry, do you want me to have selective amnesia, or do you want me to tell what I know?" Falwell: "Dang, this is a great chance to slit old Baylor's throat.....heck....tell the danged truth....remember everything.....go for the jugular". We all know Ian's the kind of guy who does what he's told.

You think this might just have a kernel of truth to it?

Stanger's right.....McCaw was a figurehead....looked like Mr. Rogers and likely was a go-along, see no evil, hear no evil guy. Attended all the banquets, returned calls, etc. But, he was at Baylor long enough to figure out who ran the show.....and how they would do anything to keep their britches clean.

Notice that McCaw just points out 6 regents and two administrators....because most regents, other than the ones who just HAVE to run the show....it's in their DNA.....just did like McCaw.....go along and get along and enjoy the fried chicken dinners.

I bet Falwell, Jr. is laughing his derriere off tonight.
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xiledinok said:

Robert Wilson said:

xiledinok said:

Ian is going to be stuck at Liberty for life
If so, we'll always be 0-1 against him.
He is at Liberty and life is not a football game. Do you believe he won?
Do you believe we did?

There were no winners here. It was a colossal dumpster fire.
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There have been two people put to the oath in this whole matter, Jim Barnes and Ian McCaw. Anything anybody else has said is worthless, especially that bogus bird cage liner known as the Findings of Fact.
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Malbec said:

There have been two people put to the oath in this whole matter, Jim Barnes and Ian McCaw. Anything anybody else has said is worthless, especially that bogus bird cage liner known as the Findings of Fact.
Yep. And are all the people on here who forever called Ian "wishy washy" or "limp-wristed" or "pencil necked" now going to try to paint him as some sort of audacious lying scumbag? Because that's what he would have to be to spin a tale like this one.
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TV55 said:

GruntTuff said:

In most situations like this, the truth eventually finds its way to the light of day.

Buddy and Dary ran Baylor like their own private business. Remember the email from Buddy about the drinking sorority girls? Think for a moment about what kind of person would send that email?

This was the guy in charge....forget the university president....forget anybody....he ran the place.

So, if any of you folks think it would be not be in his nature to hide facts that didn't fit his narrative, you're far worse than sticking your head in the sand.

If this is true (and remember, this was testimony taken under oath, under threat of perjury) Baylor may be in immense trouble. Conferences don't like a member school being ascribed as racist at the top.

This deal is still unraveling, but ultimately this testimony, if true, could result in serious scrutiny by the Big 12 as to whether it wants to retain Baylor as a member.


I don't know any of the people you mention (Buddy and Deary) but your insinuation that a couple of dudes singlehandedly ran Baylor is laugh out loud funny. Same for the reference to being in trouble with the Big 12 (our current AD was just named to an NCAA committee...which completely bunker busts your wild ass theories).

What else you got?

Alien involvement?
Russian government?
Kim Kardashian publicity stunt?

C'mon people ... these "revelations" come out 2+ years after The Big Disaster? Someone either wants money or is angling for a job. Seriously, these lawyers think Baylor Nation is stupid. Maybe we once were. Not anymore.

Maybe you're new around here so I'm not gonna call you ignorant or some such. Ask around, we've had a war around here for years (since Sloan) and Buddy and his lap dog, Dary literally ran Baylor for over a decade. They are still trying. Buddy was responsible for nearly all BOR appointments and most of them are still in those seats.
Therefore the BOR is, for the most part, still tainted with his stench.

Starr, Ian, Ramsower, Tommye Lou and others took DAILY marching orders from Buddy and Dary. Accreditation even became in danger because of the board chairman giving direct instruction to administration officials.

These rogue regents even declared an open war against the official alumni association which lasted several years and basically destroyed it before a settlement was reached.

During that time there were musical chairs in the president's office and the VPs. Two presidents were fired and a good one was run off. There was also a palace coup attempt to put one of their cronies in that seat. That attempt failed.

Though still a bit murky as to the details but Briles was dismissed by this same cartel.

The cartel still exists and holds power to this minute.

And you thought the only swamp is in Washington D.C..

Wise up.
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Robert Wilson said:

xiledinok said:

Robert Wilson said:

xiledinok said:

Ian is going to be stuck at Liberty for life
If so, we'll always be 0-1 against him.
He is at Liberty and life is not a football game. Do you believe he won?
Do you believe we did?

There were no winners here. It was a colossal dumpster fire.
Sadly, in the USA of 2018, Liberty's going to be the winner. Fundamentalist without apology. Willing to sniff Trump's backside without apology. Not burdened with trying to appease the Baylor divorced "family".....it's Falwell's way or the highway and he's tapped in to the uber conservative, fundamentalist group that seems to now make up about 50% of America. That's a big trough to drink from.

Baylor's connection with only one denomination is a hindrance. Just like Baptist churches of the traditional sort are dying and independent mega-churches are taking over the landscape....Falwell U (Liberty) is incredibly well positioned.

I wouldn't personally set foot on the campus but Falwell U seems to be on the winning side now.
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Stranger said:

TV55 said:

GruntTuff said:

In most situations like this, the truth eventually finds its way to the light of day.

Buddy and Dary ran Baylor like their own private business. Remember the email from Buddy about the drinking sorority girls? Think for a moment about what kind of person would send that email?

This was the guy in charge....forget the university president....forget anybody....he ran the place.

So, if any of you folks think it would be not be in his nature to hide facts that didn't fit his narrative, you're far worse than sticking your head in the sand.

If this is true (and remember, this was testimony taken under oath, under threat of perjury) Baylor may be in immense trouble. Conferences don't like a member school being ascribed as racist at the top.

This deal is still unraveling, but ultimately this testimony, if true, could result in serious scrutiny by the Big 12 as to whether it wants to retain Baylor as a member.


I don't know any of the people you mention (Buddy and Deary) but your insinuation that a couple of dudes singlehandedly ran Baylor is laugh out loud funny. Same for the reference to being in trouble with the Big 12 (our current AD was just named to an NCAA committee...which completely bunker busts your wild ass theories).

What else you got?

Alien involvement?
Russian government?
Kim Kardashian publicity stunt?

C'mon people ... these "revelations" come out 2+ years after The Big Disaster? Someone either wants money or is angling for a job. Seriously, these lawyers think Baylor Nation is stupid. Maybe we once were. Not anymore.

Maybe you're new around here so I'm not gonna call you ignorant or some such. Ask around, we've had a war around here for years (since Sloan) and Buddy and his lap dog, Dary literally ran Baylor for over a decade. They are still trying. Buddy was responsible for nearly all BOR appointments and most of them are still in those seats.
Therefore the BOR is, for the most part, still tainted with his stench.

Starr, Ian, Ramsower, Tommye Lou and others took DAILY marching orders from Buddy and Dary. Accreditation even became in danger because of the board chairman giving direct instruction to administration officials.

These rogue regents even declared an open war against the official alumni association which lasted several years and basically destroyed it before a settlement was reached.

During that time there were musical chairs in the president's office and the VPs. Two presidents were fired and a good one was run off. There was also a palace coup attempt to put one of their cronies in that seat. That attempt failed.

Though still a bit murky as to the details but Briles was dismissed by this same cartel.

The cartel still exists and holds power to this minute.

And you thought the only swamp is in Washington D.C..

Wise up.
Dang, Stranger, you write like you got a good Baylor education....back in the day when 70 year old tenured professors taught us mere freshmen. But, that's another story. Well said. I hope the youngster learned something.
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Just what you want potential recruits to see...

'Baylor has no shame after regents 'scapegoated' black football players in rape scandal'

https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/mac-engel/article213931159.html#navlink=Lead
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An off season thread that is interesting. It's about time!

Question... does this mean the Big12 will ask that all of our games be moved to Facebook?
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TV55 said:

GruntTuff said:

In most situations like this, the truth eventually finds its way to the light of day.

Buddy and Dary ran Baylor like their own private business. Remember the email from Buddy about the drinking sorority girls? Think for a moment about what kind of person would send that email?

This was the guy in charge....forget the university president....forget anybody....he ran the place.

So, if any of you folks think it would be not be in his nature to hide facts that didn't fit his narrative, you're far worse than sticking your head in the sand.

If this is true (and remember, this was testimony taken under oath, under threat of perjury) Baylor may be in immense trouble. Conferences don't like a member school being ascribed as racist at the top.

This deal is still unraveling, but ultimately this testimony, if true, could result in serious scrutiny by the Big 12 as to whether it wants to retain Baylor as a member.


I don't know any of the people you mention (Buddy and Deary) but your insinuation that a couple of dudes singlehandedly ran Baylor is laugh out loud funny. Same for the reference to being in trouble with the Big 12 (our current AD was just named to an NCAA committee...which completely bunker busts your wild ass theories).

What else you got?

Alien involvement?
Russian government?
Kim Kardashian publicity stunt?

C'mon people ... these "revelations" come out 2+ years after The Big Disaster? Someone either wants money or is angling for a job. Seriously, these lawyers think Baylor Nation is stupid. Maybe we once were. Not anymore.
I know for a fact that Dary called a Baylor Coach directly and told him what to do about a certain situation. This crap will come out eventually.
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BearN said:

57Bear said:

xiledinok said:

57Bear said:

whitetrash said:

From the WTH:

Quote:

McCaw: Baylor regents displayed racism, preferred misleading report on rape scandal

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Liberty University Athletic Director Ian McCaw in a deposition said Baylor University undertook "an elaborate plan that essentially scapegoated black football players and the football program for being responsible for what was a decades-long, university-wide sexual assault scandal," according to a motion filed in Waco's U.S. District Court on Wednesday.
McCaw said he was "disgusted" by Baylor regents' racism and by a "phony" 13-page document held up by the board as a summary of a nine-month investigation into how Baylor responded to reports of sexual assault. ...

Dr. Christopher Howard (a distinguished graduate of the United States Air Force Academy earned a doctorate in politics as a Rhodes Scholar from the University of Oxford. He also has an MBA with distinction from Harvard Business School) was on the BU bor when the brouhaha took place - he resigned in September 2016. None of his current write-ups mention his time as a bor member at BU.

He got another job and he could not serve the regent board. It's not like he resigned out of protest. ...

How do you know his motive for resigning? Source?

He was a college president when he was on the board. He moved to another college as its president and in January 2017, it was announced that Howard was selected to be a member of the College Football Playoff Selection Committee. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_B._Howard

His time on the Baylor board is listed in this .pdf of his bio, which I got off the RMU.edu site. From the main page with his info, you have to click on the link that says "read President Howard's full bio."

http://www.rmu.edu/about-rmu/OfficeOfThePresident/AboutDrHoward

http://rmu.edu/about-rmu/OfficeOfThePresident/cmp-media/docs/President/christopherhoward_bio.pdf


Thanks BearN - I had not seen that URL..
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What I'm afraid will happen is that given the events of today, Baylor's settlement offers will increase to the point the plaintiffs will fold. When that happens it will be difficult, if not impossible, for the truth to ever come out.

Then we'd be stuck with the same band of brothers going forward, but with immense damage having been done and those with dirt on their hands walk......and deny......and deflect.......hoping people forget. Most will.
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GruntTuff said:

What I'm afraid will happen is that given the events of today, Baylor's settlement offers will increase to the point the plaintiffs will fold. When that happens it will be difficult, if not impossible, for the truth to ever come out.

Then we'd be stuck with the same band of brothers going forward, but with immense damage having been done and those with dirt on their hands walk......and deny......and deflect.......hoping people forget. Most will.


I agree with you Grunt. I smell another HUGE sealed out of court settlement. The truth will never see the light of day. That is how our "Christian" university rolls these days. Hope you guys are ready to dig deeper. Perhaps TV55 can set up a Facebook GoFundMe page.
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TV55 said:

GruntTuff said:

In most situations like this, the truth eventually finds its way to the light of day.

Buddy and Dary ran Baylor like their own private business. Remember the email from Buddy about the drinking sorority girls? Think for a moment about what kind of person would send that email?

This was the guy in charge....forget the university president....forget anybody....he ran the place.

So, if any of you folks think it would be not be in his nature to hide facts that didn't fit his narrative, you're far worse than sticking your head in the sand.

If this is true (and remember, this was testimony taken under oath, under threat of perjury) Baylor may be in immense trouble. Conferences don't like a member school being ascribed as racist at the top.

This deal is still unraveling, but ultimately this testimony, if true, could result in serious scrutiny by the Big 12 as to whether it wants to retain Baylor as a member.


I don't know any of the people you mention (Buddy and Deary) but your insinuation that a couple of dudes singlehandedly ran Baylor is laugh out loud funny. Same for the reference to being in trouble with the Big 12 (our current AD was just named to an NCAA committee...which completely bunker busts your wild ass theories).

What else you got?

Alien involvement?
Russian government?
Kim Kardashian publicity stunt?

C'mon people ... these "revelations" come out 2+ years after The Big Disaster? Someone either wants money or is angling for a job. Seriously, these lawyers think Baylor Nation is stupid. Maybe we once were. Not anymore.

So naive. You really don't know anything if you don't fathom how precarious our spot innthe Big12 was and, now after this release, still is.
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80sBEAR said:

GruntTuff said:

What I'm afraid will happen is that given the events of today, Baylor's settlement offers will increase to the point the plaintiffs will fold. When that happens it will be difficult, if not impossible, for the truth to ever come out.

Then we'd be stuck with the same band of brothers going forward, but with immense damage having been done and those with dirt on their hands walk......and deny......and deflect.......hoping people forget. Most will.


I agree with you Grunt. I smell another HUGE sealed out of court settlement. The truth will never see the light of day. That is how our "Christian" university rolls these days. Hope you guys are ready to dig deeper. Perhaps TV55 can set up a Facebook GoFundMe page.
He might ask Deary for his first contribution....then Buddy will kick in the rest.
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Gust Avrakotos said:

where the F are Soze and The Dom?

With Milli getting their talking points.
57Bear
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Houston attorney and Baylor alumnus John Eddie Williams, a member of the Bears for Leadership Reform group that has been critical of regents, said the statements attributed to McCaw reflect the group's belief that Baylor's principal problem has been "at the top level, that being the board of regents."

"While there has been turnover, half of the board was in place when these events transpired, and we have not seen any true transparency and accountability," Williams said. "I look forward with great anticipation to someone finally deposes the regents who were involved and puts them under oath."


https://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/college/article/Former-AD-describes-an-Enron-coverup-scheme-13032088.php
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TV55 said:

Forest Bueller said:

Porteroso said:

This is such a colossal sh!storm. While I partially believe Ian, I can't help but to wonder at calling all of the regents racist. I can believe that the regents wanted bad stuff swept under the rug, but Ian by default must have been a part of that. He was the athletic director, not the fitness coach.

I would guess that his assessment of the regents is mostly accurate, but that calling them racist is an attempt to distance himself. I don't think it will work, now that this is public. There's no way that damning emails don't come out about Ian now.

In the end, the whole thing is so sad, and even more, so bad, and only going to get a lot worse. I hope Ian loses his job, I just cannot believe he is so full of integrity, if he knew of all of this, for so long, and only resigned once it started coming out. I really think Starr and briles might end up being the only upstanding ones in this mess, when all the facts are out. Probably 10 years from now. No wonder the board has remained silent.
Yea, jackass move trying to label them all as racist. There was plenty of ammo without that.


The unfortunate irony of McCaw's accusations here are that they also likely sink any remaining chances of Briles coaching again. No one touches a coach where the R word has been referenced. Nobody.

He wasn't talking about CAB tho. He was talking about regents. Briles, if deposed, could say the same thing as Ian.
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GruntTuff said:

What I'm afraid will happen is that given the events of today, Baylor's settlement offers will increase to the point the plaintiffs will fold. When that happens it will be difficult, if not impossible, for the truth to ever come out.

Then we'd be stuck with the same band of brothers going forward, but with immense damage having been done and those with dirt on their hands walk......and deny......and deflect.......hoping people forget. Most will.

I hope not.

What I hope will happen is that a bunch of regents who were previously not aware of the actions and words of those other 4-5 regents leading this shltshow will come out publicly and repudiate the actions noted given in the deposition under oath. If I remember correctly wasn't there a section in the 105 Recommendations that required the addition of regent removal procedures If so, utilize that in light of previously unknown information to run some of those scoundrels off.
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Jacques Strap said:

An off season thread that is interesting. It's about time!

Question... does this mean the Big12 will ask that all of our games be moved to Facebook?

It doesn't matter. We are 75 percent members until the next realignment at best, then Baylor will be kicked to the fringe curb.
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TV55 said:

SIC EM 94 said:

TV55 said:

Osodecentx said:

Lying racist regents


Such an easy narrative, isn't it? Goes down like Kool Aid....

We all know this is a final money grab by the plaintiffs lawyers. They see the school, the program and the fan base have moved on (except for the 3 of you here on this board and your 10 fake accounts each where you circle <bleep> each other's comments).

Let's read BU counsels rebuttal to these revelations and THEN decide, right?
Spoken like a good little BOR clown. You are a fool if you believe "the program and the fan base have moved on". You can wish that were the case all you want, but the only ones pushing the whole "moving on" agenda are those ultimately responsible for this sh*t show to begin with!


Not really. It's been, what, over 2 years? You really should move on or seek professional help doing so. Living in the past is no way to lead a productive future.

I wish you the best. I really do.


I'm not going to stop supporting Baylor financially, or quit going to football games, just because a handful of people have yet to be held accountable for this mess. Sure it sucks that that same handful of POS individuals benefit from my loyalty to Baylor, but I will never let them drive me away from my school. In addition, I will never "move on" from wanting the individuals responsible for this disaster to be held accountable and face the consequences of their complete failure.
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How long do you want to ignore this user?
Gust Avrakotos said:

Doc Holliday said:


Quote:

McCaw said Pepper Hamilton attorneys told him there would be three potential outcomes to their report: a "detailed document," a "summary report," or "to whitewash the whole thing." He said it was ultimately decided that Baylor regent J. Cary Gray would write a "false" and "misleading finding of fact skewed to make the football program look bad and cover up the campus-wide failings."
Yep.

I know it, you know it, we all know it.
some people on this board owe me an apology. I have been saying this from the beginning.


I will be waiting with you for that apology.

It seems odd to me that any of this is really news. I thought this all was common knowledge among those that care to explore the truth.
"We are unaware of any situation where you personally had contact with anyone who directly reported to you being the victim of sexual assault or that you directly discouraged the victim of an alleged sexual assault from reporting to law enforcement or university officials. Nor are we aware of any situation where you played a student athlete who had been found responsible for sexual assault.”
- Chris Holmes, Baylor General Counsel
 
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