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If those allegations are true, anyone with an ounce of integrity would have resigned long before being fired.

Xiled: You said all along that McCaw was a POS. I didn't believe you. You were right.

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Give me a break - Xi has done nothing but run down Briles and defend the BOR. He has been almost exclusively wrong, but worse than that, he's been wreckless with a lot of his comments. I'm sure there were some good board members, but as a collective group, this looks really bad. Grunt nailed it when he noted that McCaw was testifying under oath under the penalty of perjury, and thus, has no reason not to be completely truthful.

I'm usually pretty skeptical about what I read, so I've been unwilling to condemn Briles because I just hadn't seen the evidence to justify the accusations. Now I'm hearing stuff equally hard to fathom about our BOR. I do blame the BOR for how they treated Briles but this? . . . I'm still trying to wrap my mind around everything, and I'm only on page 2 of this thread.

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Hold on there.
Who came up with the term "rogue regents" to describe a few of them and who exposed Willis as a ***** pump supplier? They never got a pass but made a choice to shut up and move on from it. The aren't running around like they had there tails just cut off.
Just because I don't support the past doesn't mean I don't want change on the board.
It would go from 39 to about 12 if x was in charge but I m not and I don't think I can muster a couple of hundred million to move their opinions.

Ian played it loose and fast. Name the racists and give specifics.

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Ian's just going to answer the questions posed to him in the deposition. Usually not wise to go any further than that. Maybe one day he will be more forthcoming, but this isn't a press release.

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Matt may have missed the part where McCaw acknowledged his mistakes in all this.

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I'm with Matt on this. Ian was a weakling as an AD. What he testified was probably mostly true but he was part and parcel complicit in every bit of it. He was the hired lackey of the BOR. Did he play a role in everything he described? Most likely.

It was all his version of the truth. CYA.

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This is the most credible poster on this board. The fastest way to catch up what is the truth is to read him like the Bible.

Ian comes out two years after the fact to throw out the race card. He was holding hands with those he now calls racist.

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I believe it was Pepper Hamilton that made mention of black athletes having consensual sex with white girls.

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I know for an absolute fact that PH asked one of the assistant coaches why there were so many black athletes on the team.
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Couple of years of making posts on this board and you trot that one out there now. Convenient timing for a memory recall, fact.

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Not a new revelation.

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Yea, several were saying that back in 2016 when this broke.

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I'm not interested in several. I was replying to one specific poster. If you know for a fact then you know the specific coach that said it. Was it the Defense Line coach or other staff that worked with that position. Many of the the accused players played on the defensive line.

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I stated it two days after everything went down.
Defensive line coaches boss.
Also has anyone ever wondered that if all of the texts were so damning why did Coach and Shack give PH their phones without putting a Hillary ( whitewash) on it??? They didn't just swarm in one day and take phones the coaches were told the time and day to bring their phones in.
Not guilty
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I'm lost in this.

Is your point that he was literally dumb enough to share texts where Briles asked if a massage therapist was a stripper or hooker?

Because that didn't look good. Just fyi.

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I see worse posted on these public forums by some every day.

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LOL.

Don't like the answer so changing the subject?

I for one and very glad that IF Briles and his staff were indeed racist that ALL OF THEM are now gone. Forever.

Let's all face it. We put up with Briles because he won games. He was a strange dude though. If indeed either he or members of his staff held racist beliefs (basically what many of you are insinuating above), I am glad they are ALL GONE. I want none of that at Baylor. It's wrong.

https://pilotonline.com/sports/college/elsewhere/football/article_ca48dc31-1ce0-5173-becc-c30a7bda4be2.html

Letter from ex-Baylor volleyball coach defends Art Briles as a 'good and faithful man'

By Mac Engel Fort Worth Star-Telegram (TNS)
20 hrs ago

Whenever ESPN finally produces a "30 for 30" documentary on the rape scandal at Baylor University that halted Art Briles' coaching career, it will most assuredly include the following letter.

A letter written by former Baylor volleyball coach Jim Barnes on behalf of Briles in the summer of 2017 has been sent to NCAA investigators. It shows how Briles handled at least one particular rape allegation and how he acted with concern for the victim.

In the letter Barnes writes: "At no time did Coach Briles try to cover this up in any way. We both did what we were told to do in this situation and that was report it to the Athletic Director."

This is the first piece of on-the-record evidence from a Baylor staffer outside of the football program to specifically cite examples that Briles made a victim a priority.

There was always another side to so many of the things that Baylor claimed after it fired Briles in May 2016.

One side is ex-Baylor athletic director Ian McCaw's deposition taken last week and partially released on Wednesday.

Barnes' letter, obtained by the Star-Telegram, was made available in conjunction with a note that Baylor authored last summer saying Briles was not in the wrong. The separate letters were made available for the Canadian Football League team that hired Briles last August. But facing intense public criticism, the Hamilton Tiger-Cats released Briles after one day.

The letter from Barnes is more evidence for Briles supporters who believe he was wrongly scapegoated by the university when it fired him in May 2016. At a minimum, it demonstrates just how badly the school botched this process from the beginning, including the expensive Title IX investigation by the Philadelphia law firm of Pepper Hamilton.

On Feb. 11, 2012, a Baylor volleyball player said she was gang raped by as many as eight football players. In a lawsuit filed in May 2017, she said she was also harassed by football players after the incident.

Barnes tells the rest in his letter:

"Below is my truthful statement in regards to the rape accusation that occurred in 2012 involving my former volleyball player. Here are the facts:

"I was informed by her in late April 2013. I took the information to the Athletic Director. I asked what could be done. He gave me the phone number to Judicial Affairs to give to the victim. I then met with Coach Briles and informed him."

Barnes writes that the victim and her parents met with Baylor's judicial affairs department. Despite pleading with her to file a report, she declined and left the school.

He also said he immediately met with Briles, who "responded with concern for my player and said she should prosecute

By that point, Barnes said four of the accused players had already been removed from the team.

He also met with Pepper Hamilton investigators in May 2016, shortly before Briles was fired, for a four-hour interview. They praised him, and he writes that he does not believe the investigators accurately described their meeting to the Baylor Board of Regents.

Barnes cites a lack of training, and writes that there was "no Title IX office" established.

"I was told by the AD there was nothing else that could be done since she did not want to report the rape that happened approx' a year prior," he writes.

He finished the letter by writing, "Because there is so much wrong information out there and Coach Briles has been accused of a cover-up, my player has fully endorsed me to make a statement. In fact she said Art Briles was a good and faithful man. She appreciated his support and she was very thankful that he kept her name out of this as well."

Barnes coached at Baylor from 2004 to 2014. After two straight losing seasons, he was fired by McCaw on Dec. 2, 2014. He was hired by Tulane in December 2015, where he is the head coach of the volleyball program.

He did not respond to a request for this column.

Not sure what else he could have said when his letter already said so much

Liberty is a great university. It has the largest student body getting their degrees through the internet. That part of the country is beautiful and historic. They are very open to minorities, and they proudly stand for traditional marriage, and allowing the unborn to be born. Plus, they whipped our a .

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If those allegations are true, anyone with an ounce of integrity would have resigned long before being fired.

Xiled: You said all along that McCaw was a POS. I didn't believe you. You were right.

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Give me a break - Xi has done nothing but run down Briles and defend the BOR. He has been almost exclusively wrong, but worse than that, he's been wreckless with a lot of his comments. I'm sure there were some good board members, but as a collective group, this looks really bad. Grunt nailed it when he noted that McCaw was testifying under oath under the penalty of perjury, and thus, has no reason not to be completely truthful.

I'm usually pretty skeptical about what I read, so I've been unwilling to condemn Briles because I just hadn't seen the evidence to justify the accusations. Now I'm hearing stuff equally hard to fathom about our BOR. I do blame the BOR for how they treated Briles but this? . . . I'm still trying to wrap my mind around everything, and I'm only on page 2 of this thread.

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Name the racists and give specifics.

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One thing is certain. It was not any of the minority members of the BOR.

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Rex will tell you it's those "liberal" women on the regent board.
I couldn't find a school that liberals would consider conservative and off limits to minorities more than Liberty.
Ian, you lowered yourself to a political pundit.

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Just so you know, Jerry Falwell is dead. I hope like Hell we don't schedule Oral Roberts!

Ian is untouchable at this point. He shot a scud missle that hasn't landed. Robemcdo and him floated it for months to prepare for testimony.

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If those allegations are true, anyone with an ounce of integrity would have resigned long before being fired.

Xiled: You said all along that McCaw was a POS. I didn't believe you. You were right.

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Give me a break - Xi has done nothing but run down Briles and defend the BOR. He has been almost exclusively wrong, but worse than that, he's been wreckless with a lot of his comments. I'm sure there were some good board members, but as a collective group, this looks really bad. Grunt nailed it when he noted that McCaw was testifying under oath under the penalty of perjury, and thus, has no reason not to be completely truthful.

I'm usually pretty skeptical about what I read, so I've been unwilling to condemn Briles because I just hadn't seen the evidence to justify the accusations. Now I'm hearing stuff equally hard to fathom about our BOR. I do blame the BOR for how they treated Briles but this? . . . I'm still trying to wrap my mind around everything, and I'm only on page 2 of this thread.

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It is very possible to hold the BOR and several administrators (Starr, RR, Baylor PD Chief) for a failure to implement Title IX and expose us to millions of dollars in lawsuits (pages 5-9 of FofF) Then at the same time feel that McCaw and Briles responsible for two convictions (exploded the media) and discipline issues (pages 10-14) that happened under their watch. Myself and others are able to understand that there are several complex issues involved in the "Baylor rape scandal" that has so tarnished the name of Baylor.

I don't have a problem with who is gone short of Hill and Crawford. They did miss a few like RR should have gone immediately after Starr.

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Ian is untouchable at this point. He shot a scud missle that hasn't landed. Robemcdo and him floated it for months to prepare for testimony.

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Robemcdo has been permanently banned. Not sure what he said, but he definitely upset someone.

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Liberty is a great university. It has the largest student body getting their degrees through the internet. That part of the country is beautiful and historic. They are very open to minorities, and they proudly stand for traditional marriage, and allowing the unborn to be born. Plus, they whipped our a .

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4 points ain't whipping anyone's a!! The University of Phoenix gives out online degrees and huge student debt too.
Liberty sounds like a conservative think tank more than a place for higher education . What does traditional marriage and protecting the unborn have to do with math, reading and arithmetic?
Baylor believes the same but it is not a selling point for the school. I know of no top students that want to mix their degree with politics.
Our first opponent in 2018 is Abilene Christian. They are a strong conservative Christian school that doesn't mix politics and the religion. Those Church of Christ just practice what they preach. I'm afraid they wouldn't hire Ian.

Really banned for life what in the world he could get worked up but he sure made you think

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Matt may have missed the part where McCaw acknowledged his mistakes in all this.

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I'm with Matt on this. Ian was a weakling as an AD. What he testified was probably mostly true but he was part and parcel complicit in every bit of it. He was the hired lackey of the BOR. Did he play a role in everything he described? Most likely.

It was all his version of the truth. CYA.

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This is the most credible poster on this board. The fastest way to catch up what is the truth is to read him like the Bible.

Ian comes out two years after the fact to throw out the race card. He was holding hands with those he now calls racist.

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I believe it was Pepper Hamilton that made mention of black athletes having consensual sex with white girls.

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I know for an absolute fact that PH asked one of the assistant coaches why there were so many black athletes on the team.
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Couple of years of making posts on this board and you trot that one out there now. Convenient timing for a memory recall, fact.

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Not a new revelation.

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Yea, several were saying that back in 2016 when this broke.

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I'm not interested in several. I was replying to one specific poster. If you know for a fact then you know the specific coach that said it. Was it the Defense Line coach or other staff that worked with that position. Many of the the accused players played on the defensive line.

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I stated it two days after everything went down.
Defensive line coaches boss.
Also has anyone ever wondered that if all of the texts were so damning why did Coach and Shack give PH their phones without putting a Hillary ( whitewash) on it??? They didn't just swarm in one day and take phones the coaches were told the time and day to bring their phones in.
Not guilty
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I'm lost in this.

Is your point that he was literally dumb enough to share texts where Briles asked if a massage therapist was a stripper or hooker?

Because that didn't look good. Just fyi.

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I see worse posted on these public forums by some every day.

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LOL.

Don't like the answer so changing the subject?

I for one and very glad that IF Briles and his staff were indeed racist that ALL OF THEM are now gone. Forever.

Let's all face it. We put up with Briles because he won games. He was a strange dude though. If indeed either he or members of his staff held racist beliefs (basically what many of you are insinuating above), I am glad they are ALL GONE. I want none of that at Baylor. It's wrong.

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What did I miss? Where was it implied that CAB was racist?

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If those allegations are true, anyone with an ounce of integrity would have resigned long before being fired.

Xiled: You said all along that McCaw was a POS. I didn't believe you. You were right.

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Give me a break - Xi has done nothing but run down Briles and defend the BOR. He has been almost exclusively wrong, but worse than that, he's been wreckless with a lot of his comments. I'm sure there were some good board members, but as a collective group, this looks really bad. Grunt nailed it when he noted that McCaw was testifying under oath under the penalty of perjury, and thus, has no reason not to be completely truthful.

I'm usually pretty skeptical about what I read, so I've been unwilling to condemn Briles because I just hadn't seen the evidence to justify the accusations. Now I'm hearing stuff equally hard to fathom about our BOR. I do blame the BOR for how they treated Briles but this? . . . I'm still trying to wrap my mind around everything, and I'm only on page 2 of this thread.

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Name the racists and give specifics.

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One thing is certain. It was not any of the minority members of the BOR.

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I think practicing Christians are a minority on the BOR now, too.

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Liberty is a great university. It has the largest student body getting their degrees through the internet. That part of the country is beautiful and historic. They are very open to minorities, and they proudly stand for traditional marriage, and allowing the unborn to be born. Plus, they whipped our a .

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Damning with faint praise.

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Matt may have missed the part where McCaw acknowledged his mistakes in all this.

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I'm with Matt on this. Ian was a weakling as an AD. What he testified was probably mostly true but he was part and parcel complicit in every bit of it. He was the hired lackey of the BOR. Did he play a role in everything he described? Most likely.

It was all his version of the truth. CYA.

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This is the most credible poster on this board. The fastest way to catch up what is the truth is to read him like the Bible.

Ian comes out two years after the fact to throw out the race card. He was holding hands with those he now calls racist.

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I believe it was Pepper Hamilton that made mention of black athletes having consensual sex with white girls.

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I know for an absolute fact that PH asked one of the assistant coaches why there were so many black athletes on the team.
Fact

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Couple of years of making posts on this board and you trot that one out there now. Convenient timing for a memory recall, fact.

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Not a new revelation.

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Yea, several were saying that back in 2016 when this broke.

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I'm not interested in several. I was replying to one specific poster. If you know for a fact then you know the specific coach that said it. Was it the Defense Line coach or other staff that worked with that position. Many of the the accused players played on the defensive line.

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I stated it two days after everything went down.
Defensive line coaches boss.
Also has anyone ever wondered that if all of the texts were so damning why did Coach and Shack give PH their phones without putting a Hillary ( whitewash) on it??? They didn't just swarm in one day and take phones the coaches were told the time and day to bring their phones in.
Not guilty
Fact

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I'm lost in this.

Is your point that he was literally dumb enough to share texts where Briles asked if a massage therapist was a stripper or hooker?

Because that didn't look good. Just fyi.

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I see worse posted on these public forums by some every day.

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LOL.

Don't like the answer so changing the subject?

I for one and very glad that IF Briles and his staff were indeed racist that ALL OF THEM are now gone. Forever.

Let's all face it. We put up with Briles because he won games. He was a strange dude though. If indeed either he or members of his staff held racist beliefs (basically what many of you are insinuating above), I am glad they are ALL GONE. I want none of that at Baylor. It's wrong.

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It wasn't that Briles or his staff held racist beliefs; it was believed racism, at least through insinuating phrasing, exists on the BOR as told under oath by McCaw.

'Some of my best friends are 300 lb. black linemen.'

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The If those allegations are true, anyone with an ounce of integrity would have resigned long before being fired.

Xiled: You said all along that McCaw was a POS. I didn't believe you. You were right.

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Give me a break - Xi has done nothing but run down Briles and defend the BOR. He has been almost exclusively wrong, but worse than that, he's been wreckless with a lot of his comments. I'm sure there were some good board members, but as a collective group, this looks really bad. Grunt nailed it when he noted that McCaw was testifying under oath under the penalty of perjury, and thus, has no reason not to be completely truthful.

I'm usually pretty skeptical about what I read, so I've been unwilling to condemn Briles because I just hadn't seen the evidence to justify the accusations. Now I'm hearing stuff equally hard to fathom about our BOR. I do blame the BOR for how they treated Briles but this? . . . I'm still trying to wrap my mind around everything, and I'm only on page 2 of this thread.

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Name the racists and give specifics.

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One thing is certain. It was not any of the minority members of the BOR.

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I think practicing Christians are a minority on the BOR now, too.

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IRonically, the board is short of people with academic experience.

And we, as alums, are supposed to believe that qualifies them to run a university.

But damn can they sing the company song..

The more troubling part of Baylor's board is that many of them:

a) have limited or no experiences with large organizations

b) have no experience with other boards

c) have no experience managing other universities

The board simply doesn't have a lot of leaders...

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The more troubling part of Baylor's board is that many of them:

a) have limited or no experiences with large organizations

b) have no experience with other boards

c) have no experience managing other universities

The board simply doesn't have a lot of leaders...

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These are the reasons they were appointed. The ones that have controlled the BOR for years want sheep to fill those spots.

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The more troubling part of Baylor's board is that many of them:

a) have limited or no experiences with large organizations

b) have no experience with other boards

c) have no experience managing other universities

The board simply doesn't have a lot of leaders...

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These are the reasons they were appointed. The ones that have controlled the BOR for years want sheep to fill those spots.

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Kaboom!

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The more troubling part of Baylor's board is that many of them:

a) have limited or no experiences with large organizations

b) have no experience with other boards

c) have no experience managing other universities

The board simply doesn't have a lot of leaders...

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This is what happens when the rich Baylor alum club just nominated and elects their friends and buddies.

I see that now we have 2 African American BOR members. Did we have any in 2016?

https://www.baylor.edu/boardofregents/index.php?id=937243

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The more troubling part of Baylor's board is that many of them:

a) have limited or no experiences with large organizations

b) have no experience with other boards

c) have no experience managing other universities

The board simply doesn't have a lot of leaders...

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This is what happens when the rich Baylor alum club just nominated and elects their friends and buddies.

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Uh, a lot of these people aren't rich either.

It's just a political clique.

When you hear the phrase, "They 'love' Baylor,' it's meant as a signal that you don't love Baylor as much as they do, and aren't qualified to be on the board.

I've got no problem with rich folks on the board, I just want to see them put some skin in the game.

Who is this? https://www.baylor.edu/boardofregents/index.php?id=937321

The only reason any school puts up with any coach is because they win games. It sure ain't because they lead great community service.

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a) have limited or no experiences with large organizations

b) have no experience with other boards

c) have no experience managing other universities

The board simply doesn't have a lot of leaders...

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This is what happens when the rich Baylor alum club just nominated and elects their friends and buddies.

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Uh, a lot of these people aren't rich either.

It's just a political clique.

When you hear the phrase, "They 'love' Baylor,' it's meant as a signal that you don't love Baylor as much as they do, and aren't qualified to be on the board.

I've got no problem with rich folks on the board, I just want to see them put some skin in the game.

Who is this? https://www.baylor.edu/boardofregents/index.php?id=937321

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I'm sure if we looked at the wealth of the board the majority of them are.

But you are right and said what I was trying to say.

It's a clique and "members only" are allowed. If you aren't in the inner circle of this group you aren't getting on the board.

Blame the rich all you want, but that's not the story here.

They aren't necessarily 'wealthy' as opposed to maybe having a high income. I realize that's a stereotype you prefer but save for the obvious Drayton McLane, Hurd, many are not.

Obviously Hurd, McLane have money. And FTR, I think McLane Ian a great asset.

But the rest? Prove it. Don't see the donations or the investment,

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I see that now we have 2 African American BOR members. Did we have any in 2016?

https://www.baylor.edu/boardofregents/index.php?id=937243

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Christopher Howard resigned in September of 2016. He knew what was coming and didn't want any part of this mess. I understand he doesn't even list his stint on the Baylor BOR on his resume'. That is very telling.

A damn shame he left. He was probably the smartest of the whole bunch.

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I see that now we have 2 African American BOR members. Did we have any in 2016?

https://www.baylor.edu/boardofregents/index.php?id=937243

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Christopher Howard resigned in September of 2016. He knew what was coming and didn't want any part of this mess. I understand he doesn't even list his stint on the Baylor BOR on his resume'. That is very telling.

A damn shame he left. He was probably the smartest of the whole bunch.

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https://www.dallasnews.com/news/higher-education/2016/09/06/2-baylor-university-regents-resign

Howard resigned to dedicate more of his time to his role as president of Robert Morris University in Pennsylvania, a position he assumed in February, the Tribune-Herald reported.

Wright is now a member of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's staff, a position that prevents her from remaining on the board, Fogleman said.

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The only reason any school puts up with any coach is because they win games. It sure ain't because they lead great community service.

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Ohio State and Oklahoma fired Tressel and Switzer. They put up with them until they had become a large liability.
Both were wise enough to quietly go away for several years and they both aren't remembered for their firings.
Briles would be coaching somewhere today had his crew not set the neighborhood on fire going out the back door to the point all the advertiser and tv money was furious.

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Liberty is a great university. It has the largest student body getting their degrees through the internet. That part of the country is beautiful and historic. They are very open to minorities, and they proudly stand for traditional marriage, and allowing the unborn to be born. Plus, they whipped our a .

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Lynchburg, VA, is a nice place.

Liberty is a god-awful university, and made worse by the number of on-line degrees that are just revenue generators.

Steele would have been fired the day Tevin Elliot was arrested .... it's definitely a sliding scale

I thought it was a god- fearing university. Their BOR beats the H- our if ours.

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I thought it was a god- fearing university. Their BOR beats the H- our if ours.

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Liberty is ran by one guy. They have a history of trying to reincarnate people. Don't you remember Jim and Tammye Faye?
If God fearing is a commercial industry, they have it down.

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https://www.dallasnews.com/news/higher-education/2016/09/06/2-baylor-university-regents-resign

Howard resigned to dedicate more of his time to his role as president of Robert Morris University in Pennsylvania, a position he assumed in February, the Tribune-Herald reported.

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Is that the real reason that he resigned In September 2016?

In January 2017, it was announced that Howard was selected to be a member of the College Football Playoff Selection Committee. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_B._Howard

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https://www.dallasnews.com/news/higher-education/2016/09/06/2-baylor-university-regents-resign

Howard resigned to dedicate more of his time to his role as president of Robert Morris University in Pennsylvania, a position he assumed in February, the Tribune-Herald reported.

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Is that the real reason that he resigned In September 2016?

In January 2017, it was announced that Howard was selected to be a member of the College Football Playoff Selection Committee. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_B._Howard

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The article said they gave notice of their resignations in July of 2016.

xiledinok said:

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Timbear said:

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The only reason any school puts up with any coach is because they win games. It sure ain't because they lead great community service.

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Ohio State and Oklahoma fired Tressel and Switzer. They put up with them until they had become a large liability.
Both were wise enough to quietly go away for several years and they both aren't remembered for their firings.
Briles would be coaching somewhere today had his crew not set the neighborhood on fire going out the back door to the point all the advertiser and tv money was furious.

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You remembered them.