YoakDaddy said:

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Thee University said:

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Dman said:

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Thee University said:

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Dman said:

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Thee University said:

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Briles will coach again. Somebody is going to hire him within the next year. Mark it down.

When it happens all of these little yapping chihuahuas will go orgasmic and start firing off posts left and right. Who cares? Buy a t-shirt and haul @$$. He ______ in our nest and bailed on us.

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Thee. That One too many shots to the head in the glory years is showing again.

Think what you want about Briles, love him or hate him, but be factually correct. He didn't "bail on us". He was terminated. He'd still be here if given the choice and had he be given the same option to "fix his own problems and implementing reform"...just like the BoR. Therein embodies the divide. Therein embodies the hypocrisy.

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It was more than one too many shots and there were no glory years. We were average Baylor. .565 ball unless you allow me to forget about 1977 and 1978. That means we were a .750 program. Wait, allow me to only count 1 year. 1980. I was a part of .833. That my Cub friend is how shots to the head can affect you.

He was trying to leave us for UT. Fact. He failed.
He knew the Baylor rules and he could not abide by

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Fact. Your statement was innacurate. He didn't leave. He was terminated

Fact. He'd still be here if given the same luxury as the BoR. No way of knowing for how long.

Fact. Your changing your statement now. But Yes. All successful P5 coaches look at other schools. We've debated this before. College coaching isn't about "loyalty". Schools aren't loyal to coaches. They fire them when they don't win. Coaches aren't loyal to schools..they leave when they win. It's a job. It's about the $$. Holding Briles to another standard in this regard is just bitter pills. Think we will be loyal to Rhule if he has 3 more 1 win seasons? Think Rhule will stay forever if he starts winning? If not...do you hate him already?

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Wrong. Trying to leave. Reading comprehension. Good grief. Did you got to TSTI?

Wrong. BORs are appointed. Arthur was hired. And fired. BOR can't be fired.

Wrong. I've been rock solid and right for all along. Flirting and positioning to leave for UT, of all schools, was where he really went too far. UT? I'd rather he gone to Aggie Land with Phil Bennett. Never mind...........the Ags would NEVER hire Bennett back.

You forget just how far Baylor went outside our Baylor Bubble to give him what he wanted. No other coach in the history of BU football got so much and bent the Baylor rules so far.

Baylor standards are way above other B12 schools and I have always been proud of that FACT.

You really are a TSTI grad aren't you? Paul Quinn?

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Easy there on the TSTI references. I know several grads from there who are plumbers or electricians that own their own businesses and make 4 or 5 times what some Baylor grads make. There's nothing wrong with the trades.

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Nothing wrong at all with the trades.

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Hey, Thee, shut your pie hole you arrogant *****. My son finished at TSTI and makes 6 figures. Great career, family, kids and friends. They're all believers. You're an idiot.

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Good for him and good for you. There are success stories everywhere.

I think if any of you have a sense of humor (most of you don't because you are arrogant dildos yourselves) that you understood what I meant. I don't and can't use the p-word you called me. It just seems so effeminate and yankee like.

You don't like it, don't read it. Dildo.

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You really don't know when to stop and get out of your own way...

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Thee University said:

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Timbear said:

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Hey, Thee, shut your pie hole you arrogant *****. My son finished at TSTI and makes 6 figures. Great career, family, kids and friends. They're all believers. You're an idiot.

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Good for him and good for you. There are success stories everywhere.

I think if any of you have a sense of humor (most of you don't because you are arrogant dildos yourselves) that you understood what I meant. I don't and can't use the p-word you called me. It just seems so effeminate and yankee like.

You don't like it, don't read it. Dildo.

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You really don't know when to stop and get out of your own way...

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a lot of his posts are absolute train wrecks.

Chuckroast said:

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Dman said:

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Thee University said:

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Timbear said:

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Hey, Thee, shut your pie hole you arrogant *****. My son finished at TSTI and makes 6 figures. Great career, family, kids and friends. They're all believers. You're an idiot.

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Good for him and good for you. There are success stories everywhere.

I think if any of you have a sense of humor (most of you don't because you are arrogant dildos yourselves) that you understood what I meant. I don't and can't use the p-word you called me. It just seems so effeminate and yankee like.

You don't like it, don't read it. Dildo.

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You really don't know when to stop and get out of your own way...

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a lot of his posts are absolute train wrecks.

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It's beyond normal social media "train wreck" and seems to be getting worse? I've offered for him to come on down to houston. We have some of the finest imaging and neurological teams in the country. He played during a time no one truly understood the impact of all those hits. We can disagree on a lot of things, but I truly Hope it's not going ignored.

Chuckroast said:

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Thee University said:

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Dman said:

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Thee University said:

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Dman said:

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Thee University said:

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Briles will coach again. Somebody is going to hire him within the next year. Mark it down.

When it happens all of these little yapping chihuahuas will go orgasmic and start firing off posts left and right. Who cares? Buy a t-shirt and haul @$$. He ______ in our nest and bailed on us.

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Thee. That One too many shots to the head in the glory years is showing again.

Think what you want about Briles, love him or hate him, but be factually correct. He didn't "bail on us". He was terminated. He'd still be here if given the choice and had he be given the same option to "fix his own problems and implementing reform"...just like the BoR. Therein embodies the divide. Therein embodies the hypocrisy.

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It was more than one too many shots and there were no glory years. We were average Baylor. .565 ball unless you allow me to forget about 1977 and 1978. That means we were a .750 program. Wait, allow me to only count 1 year. 1980. I was a part of .833. That my Cub friend is how shots to the head can affect you.

He was trying to leave us for UT. Fact. He failed.
He knew the Baylor rules and he could not abide by

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Fact. Your statement was innacurate. He didn't leave. He was terminated

Fact. He'd still be here if given the same luxury as the BoR. No way of knowing for how long.

Fact. Your changing your statement now. But Yes. All successful P5 coaches look at other schools. We've debated this before. College coaching isn't about "loyalty". Schools aren't loyal to coaches. They fire them when they don't win. Coaches aren't loyal to schools..they leave when they win. It's a job. It's about the $$. Holding Briles to another standard in this regard is just bitter pills. Think we will be loyal to Rhule if he has 3 more 1 win seasons? Think Rhule will stay forever if he starts winning? If not...do you hate him already?

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Wrong. Trying to leave. Reading comprehension. Good grief. Did you got to TSTI?

Wrong. BORs are appointed. Arthur was hired. And fired. BOR can't be fired.

Wrong. I've been rock solid and right for all along. Flirting and positioning to leave for UT, of all schools, was where he really went too far. UT? I'd rather he gone to Aggie Land with Phil Bennett. Never mind...........the Ags would NEVER hire Bennett back.

You forget just how far Baylor went outside our Baylor Bubble to give him what he wanted. No other coach in the history of BU football got so much and bent the Baylor rules so far.

Baylor standards are way above other B12 schools and I have always been proud of that FACT.

You really are a TSTI grad aren't you? Paul Quinn?

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That's right, Baylor's standards are "way higher" because we're morally superior (tongue planted firmly in cheek). Makes you feel better about losing doesn't it? That's what really bugs me about the mindset of a lot of Baylor fans . . . and I worry - possibly many of our regents. I just hope the BOR didn't fire CAB in a knee jerk reaction to prove our supreme righteousness.

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They're only righteous between 9:30 and 12 on Sundays or at quarterly meetings in Waco.

Dman said:

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Chuckroast said:

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Dman said:

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Thee University said:

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Timbear said:

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Hey, Thee, shut your pie hole you arrogant *****. My son finished at TSTI and makes 6 figures. Great career, family, kids and friends. They're all believers. You're an idiot.

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Good for him and good for you. There are success stories everywhere.

I think if any of you have a sense of humor (most of you don't because you are arrogant dildos yourselves) that you understood what I meant. I don't and can't use the p-word you called me. It just seems so effeminate and yankee like.

You don't like it, don't read it. Dildo.

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You really don't know when to stop and get out of your own way...

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a lot of his posts are absolute train wrecks.

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It's beyond normal social media "train wreck" and seems to be getting worse? I've offered for him to come on down to houston. We have some of the finest imaging and neurological teams in the country. He played during a time no one truly understood the impact of all those hits. We can disagree on a lot of things, but I truly Hope it's not going ignored.

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Dman said:

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Thee University said:

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Timbear said:

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Hey, Thee, shut your pie hole you arrogant *****. My son finished at TSTI and makes 6 figures. Great career, family, kids and friends. They're all believers. You're an idiot.

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Good for him and good for you. There are success stories everywhere.

I think if any of you have a sense of humor (most of you don't because you are arrogant dildos yourselves) that you understood what I meant. I don't and can't use the p-word you called me. It just seems so effeminate and yankee like.

You don't like it, don't read it. Dildo.

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You really don't know when to stop and get out of your own way...

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Get thee back into the Baylor Bubble if your sweet little feelings get hurt.

You would think with all this support and high intelligence that Briles would have a job.
Maybe he should have gone away quietly. It would have been out of character but it he would have a job.
Baylor gave Briles that precious letter but from reading posts on this thread, everyone would agree the letter cannot be trusted.

xiledinok said:

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You would think with all this support and high intelligence that Briles would have a job.
Maybe he should have gone away quietly. It would have been out of character but it he would have a job.
Baylor gave Briles that precious letter but from reading posts on this thread, everyone would agree the letter cannot be trusted.

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Heads are getting ready to roll at Baylor, and none of them have the last name of Briles.

Hey Thee. You got my vote. I think your posts are funny. The YouTube touches on this page made me laugh.

These guys don't have a sense of humor at all. They are into themselves, highly offendable, and do take themselves way to serious. They can post all they want about their opinions and take shots but your posts back are out of line?! Whatever. I'm sure if I got to know anyone of them better they are the little sissy daddy's boys I didn't like at Baylor. Or the parents of.

Keep on keeping on sir!

YoakDaddy said:

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Chuckroast said:

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Thee University said:

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Dman said:

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Thee University said:

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Dman said:

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Thee University said:

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Briles will coach again. Somebody is going to hire him within the next year. Mark it down.

When it happens all of these little yapping chihuahuas will go orgasmic and start firing off posts left and right. Who cares? Buy a t-shirt and haul @$$. He ______ in our nest and bailed on us.

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Thee. That One too many shots to the head in the glory years is showing again.

Think what you want about Briles, love him or hate him, but be factually correct. He didn't "bail on us". He was terminated. He'd still be here if given the choice and had he be given the same option to "fix his own problems and implementing reform"...just like the BoR. Therein embodies the divide. Therein embodies the hypocrisy.

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It was more than one too many shots and there were no glory years. We were average Baylor. .565 ball unless you allow me to forget about 1977 and 1978. That means we were a .750 program. Wait, allow me to only count 1 year. 1980. I was a part of .833. That my Cub friend is how shots to the head can affect you.

He was trying to leave us for UT. Fact. He failed.
He knew the Baylor rules and he could not abide by

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Fact. Your statement was innacurate. He didn't leave. He was terminated

Fact. He'd still be here if given the same luxury as the BoR. No way of knowing for how long.

Fact. Your changing your statement now. But Yes. All successful P5 coaches look at other schools. We've debated this before. College coaching isn't about "loyalty". Schools aren't loyal to coaches. They fire them when they don't win. Coaches aren't loyal to schools..they leave when they win. It's a job. It's about the $$. Holding Briles to another standard in this regard is just bitter pills. Think we will be loyal to Rhule if he has 3 more 1 win seasons? Think Rhule will stay forever if he starts winning? If not...do you hate him already?

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Wrong. Trying to leave. Reading comprehension. Good grief. Did you got to TSTI?

Wrong. BORs are appointed. Arthur was hired. And fired. BOR can't be fired.

Wrong. I've been rock solid and right for all along. Flirting and positioning to leave for UT, of all schools, was where he really went too far. UT? I'd rather he gone to Aggie Land with Phil Bennett. Never mind...........the Ags would NEVER hire Bennett back.

You forget just how far Baylor went outside our Baylor Bubble to give him what he wanted. No other coach in the history of BU football got so much and bent the Baylor rules so far.

Baylor standards are way above other B12 schools and I have always been proud of that FACT.

You really are a TSTI grad aren't you? Paul Quinn?

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That's right, Baylor's standards are "way higher" because we're morally superior (tongue planted firmly in cheek). Makes you feel better about losing doesn't it? That's what really bugs me about the mindset of a lot of Baylor fans . . . and I worry - possibly many of our regents. I just hope the BOR didn't fire CAB in a knee jerk reaction to prove our supreme righteousness.

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They're only righteous between 9:30 and 12 on Sundays or at quarterly meetings in Waco.

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Why do you call the BOR un-Christian? I can see lots of words used; failed, asleep at the wheel, incompetent - we may forever disagree on the extent of those things, but those adjectives are OK. It seems very harsh.

If they are un-Christian, what about Starr, Briles, Shillinglaw, RR, and Bethany McCraw? Are they un-Christian too ? and if no why not?

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Hey Thee. You got my vote. I think your posts are funny. The YouTube touches on this page made me laugh.

These guys don't have a sense of humor at all. They are into themselves, highly offendable, and do take themselves way to serious. They can post all they want about their opinions and take shots but your posts back are out of line?! Whatever. I'm sure if I got to know anyone of them better they are the little sissy daddy's boys I didn't like at Baylor. Or the parents of.

Keep on keeping on sir!

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A post filled with humor and high IQ. Oh wait, it had neither. Just retorts most 3rd graders would have been embarrassed to have uttered on a playground.

I've found in life those who feel the need to pontificate (big word..use Siri if you need to) about their machismo behind the obscurity of a keyboard often are the ones most insecure about their own. Please tell us more about your testosterone filled life.

Loaded4Bear said:

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xiledinok said:

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You would think with all this support and high intelligence that Briles would have a job.
Maybe he should have gone away quietly. It would have been out of character but it he would have a job.
Baylor gave Briles that precious letter but from reading posts on this thread, everyone would agree the letter cannot be trusted.

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Heads are getting ready to roll at Baylor, and none of them have the last name of Briles.

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Briles' head and a few others have already rightfully rolled. A few others can be put on display at Waco Hall for Parents Weekend to remind parents that these guys are the reason for less donations and higher prices to educate their children.
I am all for it.


I m thinking in the end the NCAA will come along and just ban a few people. Send some boosters and coaches away for good. Put some administrators on notice that more money will be withheld. The trash keeps blowing around and I believe the NCAA will just end a few careers to get the message across that you best not blow trash all over the place when you get fired.

Keyser Soze said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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Chuckroast said:

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Thee University said:

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Dman said:

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Thee University said:

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Dman said:

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Thee University said:

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Briles will coach again. Somebody is going to hire him within the next year. Mark it down.

When it happens all of these little yapping chihuahuas will go orgasmic and start firing off posts left and right. Who cares? Buy a t-shirt and haul @$$. He ______ in our nest and bailed on us.

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Thee. That One too many shots to the head in the glory years is showing again.

Think what you want about Briles, love him or hate him, but be factually correct. He didn't "bail on us". He was terminated. He'd still be here if given the choice and had he be given the same option to "fix his own problems and implementing reform"...just like the BoR. Therein embodies the divide. Therein embodies the hypocrisy.

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It was more than one too many shots and there were no glory years. We were average Baylor. .565 ball unless you allow me to forget about 1977 and 1978. That means we were a .750 program. Wait, allow me to only count 1 year. 1980. I was a part of .833. That my Cub friend is how shots to the head can affect you.

He was trying to leave us for UT. Fact. He failed.
He knew the Baylor rules and he could not abide by

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Fact. Your statement was innacurate. He didn't leave. He was terminated

Fact. He'd still be here if given the same luxury as the BoR. No way of knowing for how long.

Fact. Your changing your statement now. But Yes. All successful P5 coaches look at other schools. We've debated this before. College coaching isn't about "loyalty". Schools aren't loyal to coaches. They fire them when they don't win. Coaches aren't loyal to schools..they leave when they win. It's a job. It's about the $$. Holding Briles to another standard in this regard is just bitter pills. Think we will be loyal to Rhule if he has 3 more 1 win seasons? Think Rhule will stay forever if he starts winning? If not...do you hate him already?

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Wrong. Trying to leave. Reading comprehension. Good grief. Did you got to TSTI?

Wrong. BORs are appointed. Arthur was hired. And fired. BOR can't be fired.

Wrong. I've been rock solid and right for all along. Flirting and positioning to leave for UT, of all schools, was where he really went too far. UT? I'd rather he gone to Aggie Land with Phil Bennett. Never mind...........the Ags would NEVER hire Bennett back.

You forget just how far Baylor went outside our Baylor Bubble to give him what he wanted. No other coach in the history of BU football got so much and bent the Baylor rules so far.

Baylor standards are way above other B12 schools and I have always been proud of that FACT.

You really are a TSTI grad aren't you? Paul Quinn?

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That's right, Baylor's standards are "way higher" because we're morally superior (tongue planted firmly in cheek). Makes you feel better about losing doesn't it? That's what really bugs me about the mindset of a lot of Baylor fans . . . and I worry - possibly many of our regents. I just hope the BOR didn't fire CAB in a knee jerk reaction to prove our supreme righteousness.

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They're only righteous between 9:30 and 12 on Sundays or at quarterly meetings in Waco.

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Why do you call the BOR un-Christian? I can see lots of words used; failed, asleep at the wheel, incompetent - we may forever disagree on the extent of those things, but those adjectives are OK. It seems very harsh.

If they are un-Christian, what about Starr, Briles, Shillinglaw, RR, and Bethany McCraw? Are they un-Christian too ? and if no why not?

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There's some idol worshipping going down on the board. What weak choices to look up to as an adult! Shill has no name except for being the worse handler in college football. I wouldn't let him babysit a pet rock!

Keyser Soze said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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Chuckroast said:

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Thee University said:

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Dman said:

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Thee University said:

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Dman said:

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Thee University said:

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Briles will coach again. Somebody is going to hire him within the next year. Mark it down.

When it happens all of these little yapping chihuahuas will go orgasmic and start firing off posts left and right. Who cares? Buy a t-shirt and haul @$$. He ______ in our nest and bailed on us.

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Thee. That One too many shots to the head in the glory years is showing again.

Think what you want about Briles, love him or hate him, but be factually correct. He didn't "bail on us". He was terminated. He'd still be here if given the choice and had he be given the same option to "fix his own problems and implementing reform"...just like the BoR. Therein embodies the divide. Therein embodies the hypocrisy.

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It was more than one too many shots and there were no glory years. We were average Baylor. .565 ball unless you allow me to forget about 1977 and 1978. That means we were a .750 program. Wait, allow me to only count 1 year. 1980. I was a part of .833. That my Cub friend is how shots to the head can affect you.

He was trying to leave us for UT. Fact. He failed.
He knew the Baylor rules and he could not abide by

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Fact. Your statement was innacurate. He didn't leave. He was terminated

Fact. He'd still be here if given the same luxury as the BoR. No way of knowing for how long.

Fact. Your changing your statement now. But Yes. All successful P5 coaches look at other schools. We've debated this before. College coaching isn't about "loyalty". Schools aren't loyal to coaches. They fire them when they don't win. Coaches aren't loyal to schools..they leave when they win. It's a job. It's about the $$. Holding Briles to another standard in this regard is just bitter pills. Think we will be loyal to Rhule if he has 3 more 1 win seasons? Think Rhule will stay forever if he starts winning? If not...do you hate him already?

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Wrong. Trying to leave. Reading comprehension. Good grief. Did you got to TSTI?

Wrong. BORs are appointed. Arthur was hired. And fired. BOR can't be fired.

Wrong. I've been rock solid and right for all along. Flirting and positioning to leave for UT, of all schools, was where he really went too far. UT? I'd rather he gone to Aggie Land with Phil Bennett. Never mind...........the Ags would NEVER hire Bennett back.

You forget just how far Baylor went outside our Baylor Bubble to give him what he wanted. No other coach in the history of BU football got so much and bent the Baylor rules so far.

Baylor standards are way above other B12 schools and I have always been proud of that FACT.

You really are a TSTI grad aren't you? Paul Quinn?

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That's right, Baylor's standards are "way higher" because we're morally superior (tongue planted firmly in cheek). Makes you feel better about losing doesn't it? That's what really bugs me about the mindset of a lot of Baylor fans . . . and I worry - possibly many of our regents. I just hope the BOR didn't fire CAB in a knee jerk reaction to prove our supreme righteousness.

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They're only righteous between 9:30 and 12 on Sundays or at quarterly meetings in Waco.

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Why do you call the BOR un-Christian? I can see lots of words used; failed, asleep at the wheel, incompetent - we may forever disagree on the extent of those things, but those adjectives are OK. It seems very harsh.

If they are un-Christian, what about Starr, Briles, Shillinglaw, RR, and Bethany McCraw? Are they un-Christian too ? and if no why not?

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I see what you're saying, but yes. In fact, we are all
Capable of being un-Christian. The label of Christianity doesn't immunize anyone from un-Christian behavior. We are human,
There is good and bad in us all. Everyone you mentioned showed un-Christian characteristics at some point during this epic mess. Including you and I in how we've responded or not responded. Again, "we have ALL sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." This is the biggest complaint. Mistakes were in fact made. By ALL. Documented, undeniable mistakes. YES. EVEN THE BOR. Judging others and yet not holding yourself to the same standard is hypocrisy. It is in fact, un-Christian. That alone doesn't define them and make them "bad people". It does rule them out as trustworthy and Baylor's best option to move forward.

If being Christ-like is being Christian, we all can be called un-christian at times.

Even the supposed best of us.

Play the race card, play the faith card, and play the victim card, it still won't change the fact the general public believes all screwed up, embarrassed their employor, embarrassed their familes and embarrassed their mamas and daddies while ending careers.

Both sides don't have clean hands. Unless you love to mix politics and religion, this is not an example of how Christians should act and don't think for a minute it wasn't destiny that two loose running ships crashed into each other. Both sides were due from previous actions to get busted up in some "bad" or whatever they label it.

Forest Bueller said:

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If being Christ-like is being Christian, we all can be called un-christian at times.

Even the supposed best of us.

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Always considered Christians those who follow Christ - every last one of them is flawed, but I don't call them un-Christian

So would you call Briles & Starr un-Christian at times?

Keyser Soze said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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Chuckroast said:

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Thee University said:

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Dman said:

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Thee University said:

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Dman said:

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Thee University said:

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Briles will coach again. Somebody is going to hire him within the next year. Mark it down.

When it happens all of these little yapping chihuahuas will go orgasmic and start firing off posts left and right. Who cares? Buy a t-shirt and haul @$$. He ______ in our nest and bailed on us.

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Thee. That One too many shots to the head in the glory years is showing again.

Think what you want about Briles, love him or hate him, but be factually correct. He didn't "bail on us". He was terminated. He'd still be here if given the choice and had he be given the same option to "fix his own problems and implementing reform"...just like the BoR. Therein embodies the divide. Therein embodies the hypocrisy.

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It was more than one too many shots and there were no glory years. We were average Baylor. .565 ball unless you allow me to forget about 1977 and 1978. That means we were a .750 program. Wait, allow me to only count 1 year. 1980. I was a part of .833. That my Cub friend is how shots to the head can affect you.

He was trying to leave us for UT. Fact. He failed.
He knew the Baylor rules and he could not abide by

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Fact. Your statement was innacurate. He didn't leave. He was terminated

Fact. He'd still be here if given the same luxury as the BoR. No way of knowing for how long.

Fact. Your changing your statement now. But Yes. All successful P5 coaches look at other schools. We've debated this before. College coaching isn't about "loyalty". Schools aren't loyal to coaches. They fire them when they don't win. Coaches aren't loyal to schools..they leave when they win. It's a job. It's about the $$. Holding Briles to another standard in this regard is just bitter pills. Think we will be loyal to Rhule if he has 3 more 1 win seasons? Think Rhule will stay forever if he starts winning? If not...do you hate him already?

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Wrong. Trying to leave. Reading comprehension. Good grief. Did you got to TSTI?

Wrong. BORs are appointed. Arthur was hired. And fired. BOR can't be fired.

Wrong. I've been rock solid and right for all along. Flirting and positioning to leave for UT, of all schools, was where he really went too far. UT? I'd rather he gone to Aggie Land with Phil Bennett. Never mind...........the Ags would NEVER hire Bennett back.

You forget just how far Baylor went outside our Baylor Bubble to give him what he wanted. No other coach in the history of BU football got so much and bent the Baylor rules so far.

Baylor standards are way above other B12 schools and I have always been proud of that FACT.

You really are a TSTI grad aren't you? Paul Quinn?

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That's right, Baylor's standards are "way higher" because we're morally superior (tongue planted firmly in cheek). Makes you feel better about losing doesn't it? That's what really bugs me about the mindset of a lot of Baylor fans . . . and I worry - possibly many of our regents. I just hope the BOR didn't fire CAB in a knee jerk reaction to prove our supreme righteousness.

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They're only righteous between 9:30 and 12 on Sundays or at quarterly meetings in Waco.

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Why do you call the BOR un-Christian? I can see lots of words used; failed, asleep at the wheel, incompetent - we may forever disagree on the extent of those things, but those adjectives are OK. It seems very harsh.

If they are un-Christian, what about Starr, Briles, Shillinglaw, RR, and Bethany McCraw? Are they un-Christian too ? and if no why not?

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Zero resignations indicates they believe they are beyond rebuke. I'll point to a quote in the Trib from 10/2016....

"The board bears "significant, significant" responsibility in the scandal, Regent Jeff Reeter said. When asked how the board would be held accountable for that responsibility, he said the board is held accountable by a "very high calling."

I'll also add sanctimonious.

Briles at least went on camera for that ESPN Tom Rinaldi interview and apologized. Pretty sure Starr did too but don't have time right now to confirm.

xiledinok said:

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Play the race card, play the faith card, and play the victim card, it still won't change the fact the general public believes all screwed up, embarrassed their employor, embarrassed their familes and embarrassed their mamas and daddies while ending careers.

Both sides don't have clean hands. Unless you love to mix politics and religion, this is not an example of how Christians should act and don't think for a minute it wasn't destiny that two loose running ships crashed into each other. Both sides were due from previous actions to get busted up in some "bad" or whatever they label it.

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There are these times we see things from a very similar perspective.

Keyser Soze said:

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Forest Bueller said:

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If being Christ-like is being Christian, we all can be called un-christian at times.

Even the supposed best of us.

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Always considered Christians those who follow Christ - every last one of them is flawed, but I don't call them un-Christian

So would you call Briles & Starr un-Christian at times?

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I might say someone is acting in an unchristian manner, but then like I said we all do at times, Briles and Starr included.

Anybody who claims to follow Christ, I can't be the judge of them or anybody else for that matter.

We all fall short in many ways, doesn't have an exclusion clause, except for Christ himself.

Keyser Soze said:

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Forest Bueller said:

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If being Christ-like is being Christian, we all can be called un-christian at times.

Even the supposed best of us.

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Always considered Christians those who follow Christ - every last one of them is flawed, but I don't call them un-Christian

So would you call Briles & Starr un-Christian at times?

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Well one is actions & mistakes category and one is character category. Great point by Keyser.

Dman said:

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xiledinok said:

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Play the race card, play the faith card, and play the victim card, it still won't change the fact the general public believes all screwed up, embarrassed their employor, embarrassed their familes and embarrassed their mamas and daddies while ending careers.

Both sides don't have clean hands. Unless you love to mix politics and religion, this is not an example of how Christians should act and don't think for a minute it wasn't destiny that two loose running ships crashed into each other. Both sides were due from previous actions to get busted up in some "bad" or whatever they label it.

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There are these times we see things from a very similar perspective.

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I think banning boosters, a few coaches, a few former regents, a few regents, a former athletic director, former Baylor employees and a few former support staffers would really be the right thing to do for the NCAA.
Baylor is back in compliance (no thanks to those needing to be banned).

Both sides screwed up and the collision they caused needs to be disposed of by the NCAA as soon as possible.
Good coaches and boosters have been banned in the past. I knew of one coach that was banned that was one of the most popular coaches in football during the 1990s and left his legacy for all to relish.
I knew of one booster that was banned. He was a terrific man and didn't take it personal.

A few banned egos would be the right remedy.

TheDom said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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Forest Bueller said:

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If being Christ-like is being Christian, we all can be called un-christian at times.

Even the supposed best of us.

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Always considered Christians those who follow Christ - every last one of them is flawed, but I don't call them un-Christian

So would you call Briles & Starr un-Christian at times?

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Well one is actions & mistakes category and one is character category. Great point by Keyser.

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An absurdly one sided spin and interpretation, and tone deaf to the situation entirely. The splinter in their eye versus the log in yours...he without sin cast the first stone. So many appropriate versus coming to mind if you want to go there...

Let's leave pretense righteousness/character debates out of this conversation. It's laughbale to anyone on the outside that one side claims a moral high ground.

Perverted little tarts says hello.

We pretty much agreed to shut down the similiar conversation on the premium thread till new info comes out...have we not already said everything to be said on this thread for now at least? Maybe shut it down till the next info breaks? Just a thought...

This is what I love about a Baylor bulletin board.

We go from football to chit chat to religion and politics quicker than any fan base.

Since we have now flipped over to religion I am going to pray that the season gets here fast so that this board can purge and start talking football again.

2 years of gnashing of teeth over a football coach firing is killing me. You guys have to be eating and drinking smoothies since you have no teeth left. Hillbillies!

TheDom said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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Forest Bueller said:

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If being Christ-like is being Christian, we all can be called un-christian at times.

Even the supposed best of us.

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Always considered Christians those who follow Christ - every last one of them is flawed, but I don't call them un-Christian

So would you call Briles & Starr un-Christian at times?

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Well one is actions & mistakes category and one is character category. Great point by Keyser.

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Oh I see, the old errors and omissions clause. Looking at the backgrounds of these folks it is a very blurry line to try and distinguish, one group just made a few mistakes and another has bad character.

Looking at the actions on both sides, I would say there was plenty of character issues to go around.

Thee University said:

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This is what I love about a Baylor bulletin board.

We go from football to chit chat to religion and politics quicker than any fan base.

Since we have now flipped over to religion I am going to pray that the season gets here fast so that this board can purge and start talking football again.

2 years of gnashing of teeth over a football coach firing is killing me. You guys have to be eating and drinking smoothies since you have no teeth left. Hillbillies!

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Wow. I agree with 3/4 of your post. Change one sentence to "2 years of defending selective outrage and accountability" and we are on the same page.

Religion has no place in his conversation. Our first game can't get here soon enough.

You are the self righteous one buddy. You are the one that likes to cast stones. Judgment stones and insult stones. I read your nonsense posts over and over. You love to dish it out but can't take it.

Thee University said:

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This is what I love about a Baylor bulletin board.

We go from football to chit chat to religion and politics quicker than any fan base.

Since we have now flipped over to religion I am going to pray that the season gets here fast so that this board can purge and start talking football again.

2 years of gnashing of teeth over a football coach firing is killing me. You guys have to be eating and drinking smoothies since you have no teeth left. Hillbillies!

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As a native of the Missouri Ozarks with ancestry dating back to the 1830s in the Branson area (moving from Tennessee so 200 years invested in this lifestyle), I would have to ask what your problem is with Hillbillies? You didn't mind a few at the Alamo.

Really wish that statement was true, but unfortunately religion, or should I say denomination [ Baptist ] played a HUGE part in this mess. ESPN and other media took special delight in crucifying Baylor over an issue that has happened to many other universities over time because of the religious affiliation to the university . It was like Christmas every day, with each new revelation or accusation taken to the extreme. Didn't really matter if the facts were correct or actually known at the time. This was in addition to their financial conflict of interest concerning LN network. Our BOR, in Baptist tradition, brown bagged the issue of SA for years hoping it would go unnoticed and by not seeking the truth, made the situation even more dire. They could claim innocence from lack of knowledge of the facts. [ generally called plausible deniability ] . I am not saying all of them, but enough of them that control the BOR and it's actions. As for politics, do you really believe Judge Starr didn't see the Title IX expansion as an unconstitutional imposition on universities ? He stated this many times. If you have a board that really doesn't want to know and a president that thinks it is unconstitutional, how could this not have ended up in a head on collision !. I am not saying that any of these people are in any way not fine people, but their ideologies took precedent over reality. If they were in the corporate world, they would have been dismissed, but I dare say if their livelihood depended on those decisions, like they do in the corporate world, the decisions would likely have different as well.

There is enough blame to go around for everyone involved including Art, Ian and others, but the overall current of this thread seems to be an attempt to assign different degrees of accountability according to each persons views. If the neighbors dogs take a dump in your front yard, does it matter if you are madder at the toy poodle than the great dane . They both dumped in your yard !

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Really wish that statement was true, but unfortunately religion, or should I say denomination [ Baptist ] played a HUGE part in this mess. ESPN and other media took special delight in crucifying Baylor over an issue that has happened to many other universities over time because of the religious affiliation to the university . It was like Christmas every day, with each new revelation or accusation taken to the extreme. Didn't really matter if the facts were correct or actually known at the time. This was in addition to their financial conflict of interest concerning LN network. Our BOR, in Baptist tradition, brown bagged the issue of SA for years hoping it would go unnoticed and by not seeking the truth, made the situation even more dire. They could claim innocence from lack of knowledge of the facts. [ generally called plausible deniability ] . I am not saying all of them, but enough of them that control the BOR and it's actions. As for politics, do you really believe Judge Starr didn't see the Title IX expansion as an unconstitutional imposition on universities ? He stated this many times. If you have a board that really doesn't want to know and a president that thinks it is unconstitutional, how could this not have ended up in a head on collision !. I am not saying that any of these people are in any way not fine people, but their ideologies took precedent over reality. If they were in the corporate world, they would have been dismissed, but I dare say if their livelihood depended on those decisions, like they do in the corporate world, the decisions would likely have different as well.

There is enough blame to go around for everyone involved including Art, Ian and others, but the overall current of this thread seems to be an attempt to assign different degrees of accountability according to each persons views. If the neighbors dogs take a dump in your front yard, does it matter if you are madder at the toy poodle than the great dane . They both dumped in your yard !

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Actually yes...

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You are the self righteous one buddy. You are the one that likes to cast stones. Judgment stones and insult stones. I read your nonsense posts over and over. You love to dish it out but can't take it.

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I'm still waiting for you or someone dish worthy to give it to me. So disappointing. All I've gotten here are pencil necks, limp wrists, concave chests and a few estrogen infused pretenders. The only dish around here are dishwater hands and manicured nails.

I think the good ones have gone on vacation during the off season. Maybe they finally realized that Briles is gone (after 2 long years!), the BOR is still in place and that the Baptist power struggles have ALWAYS gone on just like this for decades.

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Thee University said:

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This is what I love about a Baylor bulletin board.

We go from football to chit chat to religion and politics quicker than any fan base.

Since we have now flipped over to religion I am going to pray that the season gets here fast so that this board can purge and start talking football again.

2 years of gnashing of teeth over a football coach firing is killing me. You guys have to be eating and drinking smoothies since you have no teeth left. Hillbillies!

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As a native of the Missouri Ozarks with ancestry dating back to the 1830s in the Branson area (moving from Tennessee so 200 years invested in this lifestyle), I would have to ask what your problem is with Hillbillies? You didn't mind a few at the Alamo.

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Right on!

I recently moved back to be near my roots. I live about 5 miles from where I once saw deer jumping out though open windows of a house to come greet us as we drove up. They were like dogs coming to greet us!

Top that one.

Forest Bueller said:

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TheDom said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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Forest Bueller said:

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If being Christ-like is being Christian, we all can be called un-christian at times.

Even the supposed best of us.

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Always considered Christians those who follow Christ - every last one of them is flawed, but I don't call them un-Christian

So would you call Briles & Starr un-Christian at times?

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Well one is actions & mistakes category and one is character category. Great point by Keyser.

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Oh I see, the old errors and omissions clause. Looking at the backgrounds of these folks it is a very blurry line to try and distinguish, one group just made a few mistakes and another has bad character.

Looking at the actions on both sides, I would say there was plenty of character issues to go around.

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Keyser judging one's Christianity?