fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Redlining and credit discrimination are two examples, in addition to the mass incarceration we discussed on another thread.

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Credit discrimination?
Redlining?

Can you explain those?

When are we mass incarcerating people? White cops are round up black en mass and putting them into prisons? I had not heard that.

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Black neighborhoods became increasingly segregated and impoverished throughout the 20th century because blacks were denied access to mortgages and loans. This in turn reduced investment and destroyed job opportunities. The idea of a black ghetto became a self-fulfilling prophecy. "Mass incarceration" refers to the overall effect of the drug war. It doesn't necessarily mean that police sweep through neighborhoods rounding up prisoners en masse. However, that does happen more often than you'd guess.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/

https://www.thenation.com/article/new-jim-crow/

Sam Lowry said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Redlining and credit discrimination are two examples, in addition to the mass incarceration we discussed on another thread.

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Credit discrimination?
Redlining?

Can you explain those?

When are we mass incarcerating people? White cops are round up black en mass and putting them into prisons? I had not heard that.

---

Black neighborhoods became increasingly segregated and impoverished throughout the 20th century because blacks were denied access to mortgages and loans. This in turn reduced investment and destroyed job opportunities. The idea of a black ghetto became a self-fulfilling prophecy. "Mass incarceration" refers to the overall effect of the drug war. It doesn't necessarily mean that police sweep through neighborhoods rounding up prisoners en masse. However, that does happen more often than you'd guess.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/

https://www.thenation.com/article/new-jim-crow/

---

Why were blacks denied access to loans? and I'm not disputing anything before say the 80's.

Do you know who was behind the law against crack cocaine? Look up who pushed Reagan and the government into that...it wasn't white people.

http://prisontime.org/2013/08/12/timeline-black-support-for-the-war-on-drugs/

Also, laws and punishment for meth and significantly stronger that other drugs. Guess who uses that drug significantly more?

and no, white police rounding up mass blacks for prison does not happen...unless you can provide proof of that.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/19/upshot/race-class-white-and-black-men.html

Extensive Data Shows Punishing
Reach of Racism for Black Boys

https://www.epi.org/publication/african-americans-are-paid-less-than-whites-at-every-education-level/

African Americans are paid less than whites at every education level

fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Redlining and credit discrimination are two examples, in addition to the mass incarceration we discussed on another thread.

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Credit discrimination?
Redlining?

Can you explain those?

When are we mass incarcerating people? White cops are round up black en mass and putting them into prisons? I had not heard that.

---

Black neighborhoods became increasingly segregated and impoverished throughout the 20th century because blacks were denied access to mortgages and loans. This in turn reduced investment and destroyed job opportunities. The idea of a black ghetto became a self-fulfilling prophecy. "Mass incarceration" refers to the overall effect of the drug war. It doesn't necessarily mean that police sweep through neighborhoods rounding up prisoners en masse. However, that does happen more often than you'd guess.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/

https://www.thenation.com/article/new-jim-crow/

---

Why were blacks denied access to loans? and I'm not disputing anything before say the 80's.

Do you know who was behind the law against crack cocaine? Look up who pushed Reagan and the government into that...it wasn't white people.

http://prisontime.org/2013/08/12/timeline-black-support-for-the-war-on-drugs/

Also, laws and punishment for meth and significantly stronger that other drugs. Guess who uses that drug significantly more?

and no, white police rounding up mass blacks for prison does not happen...unless you can provide proof of that.

---

Most blacks support Planned Parenthood, too. Does that change the fact that they've killed more black people than the KKK?

Sam Lowry said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

---

Redlining and credit discrimination are two examples, in addition to the mass incarceration we discussed on another thread.

---

Credit discrimination?
Redlining?

Can you explain those?

When are we mass incarcerating people? White cops are round up black en mass and putting them into prisons? I had not heard that.

---

Black neighborhoods became increasingly segregated and impoverished throughout the 20th century because blacks were denied access to mortgages and loans. This in turn reduced investment and destroyed job opportunities. The idea of a black ghetto became a self-fulfilling prophecy. "Mass incarceration" refers to the overall effect of the drug war. It doesn't necessarily mean that police sweep through neighborhoods rounding up prisoners en masse. However, that does happen more often than you'd guess.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/

https://www.thenation.com/article/new-jim-crow/

---

Why were blacks denied access to loans? and I'm not disputing anything before say the 80's.

Do you know who was behind the law against crack cocaine? Look up who pushed Reagan and the government into that...it wasn't white people.

http://prisontime.org/2013/08/12/timeline-black-support-for-the-war-on-drugs/

Also, laws and punishment for meth and significantly stronger that other drugs. Guess who uses that drug significantly more?

and no, white police rounding up mass blacks for prison does not happen...unless you can provide proof of that.

---

Most blacks support Planned Parenthood, too. Does that change the fact that they've killed more black people than the KKK?

---

My point is that it is not about whites. It's amazing to be that we give the black community an "excuse" because of skin color. That to me is racist. Black people cannot dictate their future like whits, Hispanics, and Asians in America? C'mon. It's like your painting a picture of the lowly black American who is powerless sorry, I don't but that and from what I am reading, most educated blacks don't either (unless they stand to make a buck over it.)

fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

---

Redlining and credit discrimination are two examples, in addition to the mass incarceration we discussed on another thread.

---

Credit discrimination?
Redlining?

Can you explain those?

When are we mass incarcerating people? White cops are round up black en mass and putting them into prisons? I had not heard that.

---

Black neighborhoods became increasingly segregated and impoverished throughout the 20th century because blacks were denied access to mortgages and loans. This in turn reduced investment and destroyed job opportunities. The idea of a black ghetto became a self-fulfilling prophecy. "Mass incarceration" refers to the overall effect of the drug war. It doesn't necessarily mean that police sweep through neighborhoods rounding up prisoners en masse. However, that does happen more often than you'd guess.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/

https://www.thenation.com/article/new-jim-crow/

---

Why were blacks denied access to loans? and I'm not disputing anything before say the 80's.

Do you know who was behind the law against crack cocaine? Look up who pushed Reagan and the government into that...it wasn't white people.

http://prisontime.org/2013/08/12/timeline-black-support-for-the-war-on-drugs/

Also, laws and punishment for meth and significantly stronger that other drugs. Guess who uses that drug significantly more?

and no, white police rounding up mass blacks for prison does not happen...unless you can provide proof of that.

---

Most blacks support Planned Parenthood, too. Does that change the fact that they've killed more black people than the KKK?

---

My point is that it is not about whites. It's amazing to be that we give the black community an "excuse" because of skin color. That to me is racist. Black people cannot dictate their future like whits, Hispanics, and Asians in America? C'mon. It's like your painting a picture of the lowly black American who is powerless sorry, I don't but that and from what I am reading, most educated blacks don't either (unless they stand to make a buck over it.)

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I'm not saying any of those things. I'm just saying privilege exists.

Whites have done a good job of dictating their own future in America, but it hasn't always been pretty. Maybe some day blacks will do as white Texans did when they were oppressed by Mexico, or as American colonists did when they were oppressed by England. Is that what we want?

Doc Holliday said:

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If you virtue signalers who think white privilege is real, why don't you abandon your ill gotten gains because of your white skin and give it up to a non white person?

Have you done this yet?

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No way.

fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

---

Redlining and credit discrimination are two examples, in addition to the mass incarceration we discussed on another thread.

---

Credit discrimination?
Redlining?

Can you explain those?

When are we mass incarcerating people? White cops are round up black en mass and putting them into prisons? I had not heard that.

---

Black neighborhoods became increasingly segregated and impoverished throughout the 20th century because blacks were denied access to mortgages and loans. This in turn reduced investment and destroyed job opportunities. The idea of a black ghetto became a self-fulfilling prophecy. "Mass incarceration" refers to the overall effect of the drug war. It doesn't necessarily mean that police sweep through neighborhoods rounding up prisoners en masse. However, that does happen more often than you'd guess.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/

https://www.thenation.com/article/new-jim-crow/

---

Why were blacks denied access to loans? and I'm not disputing anything before say the 80's.

Do you know who was behind the law against crack cocaine? Look up who pushed Reagan and the government into that...it wasn't white people.

http://prisontime.org/2013/08/12/timeline-black-support-for-the-war-on-drugs/

Also, laws and punishment for meth and significantly stronger that other drugs. Guess who uses that drug significantly more?

and no, white police rounding up mass blacks for prison does not happen...unless you can provide proof of that.

---

Most blacks support Planned Parenthood, too. Does that change the fact that they've killed more black people than the KKK?

---

My point is that it is not about whites. It's amazing to be that we give the black community an "excuse" because of skin color. That to me is racist. Black people cannot dictate their future like whits, Hispanics, and Asians in America? C'mon. It's like your painting a picture of the lowly black American who is powerless sorry, I don't but that and from what I am reading, most educated blacks don't either (unless they stand to make a buck over it.)

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You've written some ignorant racist stuff before, but this is your best work yet. How much of your hatred of black people is rooted in your own self hatred?

Sam Lowry said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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If you virtue signalers who think white privilege is real, why don't you abandon your ill gotten gains because of your white skin and give it up to a non white person?

Have you done this yet?

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No way.

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Why not?

cinque said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

---

Redlining and credit discrimination are two examples, in addition to the mass incarceration we discussed on another thread.

---

Credit discrimination?
Redlining?

Can you explain those?

When are we mass incarcerating people? White cops are round up black en mass and putting them into prisons? I had not heard that.

---

Black neighborhoods became increasingly segregated and impoverished throughout the 20th century because blacks were denied access to mortgages and loans. This in turn reduced investment and destroyed job opportunities. The idea of a black ghetto became a self-fulfilling prophecy. "Mass incarceration" refers to the overall effect of the drug war. It doesn't necessarily mean that police sweep through neighborhoods rounding up prisoners en masse. However, that does happen more often than you'd guess.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/

https://www.thenation.com/article/new-jim-crow/

---

Why were blacks denied access to loans? and I'm not disputing anything before say the 80's.

Do you know who was behind the law against crack cocaine? Look up who pushed Reagan and the government into that...it wasn't white people.

http://prisontime.org/2013/08/12/timeline-black-support-for-the-war-on-drugs/

Also, laws and punishment for meth and significantly stronger that other drugs. Guess who uses that drug significantly more?

and no, white police rounding up mass blacks for prison does not happen...unless you can provide proof of that.

---

Most blacks support Planned Parenthood, too. Does that change the fact that they've killed more black people than the KKK?

---

My point is that it is not about whites. It's amazing to be that we give the black community an "excuse" because of skin color. That to me is racist. Black people cannot dictate their future like whits, Hispanics, and Asians in America? C'mon. It's like your painting a picture of the lowly black American who is powerless sorry, I don't but that and from what I am reading, most educated blacks don't either (unless they stand to make a buck over it.)

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You've written some ignorant racist stuff before, but this is your best work yet. How much of your hatred of black people is rooted in your own self hatred?

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He's not being racist whatsoever. You're going to have to explain your logic at how you arrived at that conclusion...but we both know you won't.

My guess is that you would be 100% on board with genetic testing to determine if you're white, and if you are white then you would want whites to give up a portion of their income or abandon their ill gotten white privilege gains.

Doc Holliday said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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If you virtue signalers who think white privilege is real, why don't you abandon your ill gotten gains because of your white skin and give it up to a non white person?

Have you done this yet?

---

No way.

---

Why not?

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I think we have a universal obligation to all people as our neighbors, but our particular obligation to our families and communities is more immediate. Unless you're going into the priesthood, intentionally becoming poor is not a prudent thing to do.

Doc Holliday said:

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cinque said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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fadskier said:

---

Sam Lowry said:

---

Redlining and credit discrimination are two examples, in addition to the mass incarceration we discussed on another thread.

---

Credit discrimination?
Redlining?

Can you explain those?

When are we mass incarcerating people? White cops are round up black en mass and putting them into prisons? I had not heard that.

---

Black neighborhoods became increasingly segregated and impoverished throughout the 20th century because blacks were denied access to mortgages and loans. This in turn reduced investment and destroyed job opportunities. The idea of a black ghetto became a self-fulfilling prophecy. "Mass incarceration" refers to the overall effect of the drug war. It doesn't necessarily mean that police sweep through neighborhoods rounding up prisoners en masse. However, that does happen more often than you'd guess.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/

https://www.thenation.com/article/new-jim-crow/

---

Why were blacks denied access to loans? and I'm not disputing anything before say the 80's.

Do you know who was behind the law against crack cocaine? Look up who pushed Reagan and the government into that...it wasn't white people.

http://prisontime.org/2013/08/12/timeline-black-support-for-the-war-on-drugs/

Also, laws and punishment for meth and significantly stronger that other drugs. Guess who uses that drug significantly more?

and no, white police rounding up mass blacks for prison does not happen...unless you can provide proof of that.

---

Most blacks support Planned Parenthood, too. Does that change the fact that they've killed more black people than the KKK?

---

My point is that it is not about whites. It's amazing to be that we give the black community an "excuse" because of skin color. That to me is racist. Black people cannot dictate their future like whits, Hispanics, and Asians in America? C'mon. It's like your painting a picture of the lowly black American who is powerless sorry, I don't but that and from what I am reading, most educated blacks don't either (unless they stand to make a buck over it.)

---

You've written some ignorant racist stuff before, but this is your best work yet. How much of your hatred of black people is rooted in your own self hatred?

---

He's not being racist whatsoever. You're going to have to explain your logic at how you arrived at that conclusion...but we both know you won't.

My guess is that you would be 100% on board with genetic testing to determine if you're white, and if you are white then you would want whites to give up a portion of their income or abandon their ill gotten white privilege gains.

---

I'm not "going to have to explain" anything to you. You're a lost cause.

cinque said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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cinque said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

---

fadskier said:

---

Sam Lowry said:

---

Redlining and credit discrimination are two examples, in addition to the mass incarceration we discussed on another thread.

---

Credit discrimination?
Redlining?

Can you explain those?

When are we mass incarcerating people? White cops are round up black en mass and putting them into prisons? I had not heard that.

---

Black neighborhoods became increasingly segregated and impoverished throughout the 20th century because blacks were denied access to mortgages and loans. This in turn reduced investment and destroyed job opportunities. The idea of a black ghetto became a self-fulfilling prophecy. "Mass incarceration" refers to the overall effect of the drug war. It doesn't necessarily mean that police sweep through neighborhoods rounding up prisoners en masse. However, that does happen more often than you'd guess.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/

https://www.thenation.com/article/new-jim-crow/

---

Why were blacks denied access to loans? and I'm not disputing anything before say the 80's.

Do you know who was behind the law against crack cocaine? Look up who pushed Reagan and the government into that...it wasn't white people.

http://prisontime.org/2013/08/12/timeline-black-support-for-the-war-on-drugs/

Also, laws and punishment for meth and significantly stronger that other drugs. Guess who uses that drug significantly more?

and no, white police rounding up mass blacks for prison does not happen...unless you can provide proof of that.

---

Most blacks support Planned Parenthood, too. Does that change the fact that they've killed more black people than the KKK?

---

My point is that it is not about whites. It's amazing to be that we give the black community an "excuse" because of skin color. That to me is racist. Black people cannot dictate their future like whits, Hispanics, and Asians in America? C'mon. It's like your painting a picture of the lowly black American who is powerless sorry, I don't but that and from what I am reading, most educated blacks don't either (unless they stand to make a buck over it.)

---

You've written some ignorant racist stuff before, but this is your best work yet. How much of your hatred of black people is rooted in your own self hatred?

---

He's not being racist whatsoever. You're going to have to explain your logic at how you arrived at that conclusion...but we both know you won't.

My guess is that you would be 100% on board with genetic testing to determine if you're white, and if you are white then you would want whites to give up a portion of their income or abandon their ill gotten white privilege gains.

---

I'm not "going to have to explain" anything to you. You're a lost cause.

---

You're incapable of explaining your positions because it will expose you as a fraud.

NOT ONCE have you explained anything to anyone on this forum. Not once have you backed up your statements.

You can't do it.

Doc Holliday said:

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cinque said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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cinque said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

---

fadskier said:

---

Sam Lowry said:

---

Redlining and credit discrimination are two examples, in addition to the mass incarceration we discussed on another thread.

---

Credit discrimination?
Redlining?

Can you explain those?

When are we mass incarcerating people? White cops are round up black en mass and putting them into prisons? I had not heard that.

---

Black neighborhoods became increasingly segregated and impoverished throughout the 20th century because blacks were denied access to mortgages and loans. This in turn reduced investment and destroyed job opportunities. The idea of a black ghetto became a self-fulfilling prophecy. "Mass incarceration" refers to the overall effect of the drug war. It doesn't necessarily mean that police sweep through neighborhoods rounding up prisoners en masse. However, that does happen more often than you'd guess.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/

https://www.thenation.com/article/new-jim-crow/

---

Why were blacks denied access to loans? and I'm not disputing anything before say the 80's.

Do you know who was behind the law against crack cocaine? Look up who pushed Reagan and the government into that...it wasn't white people.

http://prisontime.org/2013/08/12/timeline-black-support-for-the-war-on-drugs/

Also, laws and punishment for meth and significantly stronger that other drugs. Guess who uses that drug significantly more?

and no, white police rounding up mass blacks for prison does not happen...unless you can provide proof of that.

---

Most blacks support Planned Parenthood, too. Does that change the fact that they've killed more black people than the KKK?

---

My point is that it is not about whites. It's amazing to be that we give the black community an "excuse" because of skin color. That to me is racist. Black people cannot dictate their future like whits, Hispanics, and Asians in America? C'mon. It's like your painting a picture of the lowly black American who is powerless sorry, I don't but that and from what I am reading, most educated blacks don't either (unless they stand to make a buck over it.)

---

You've written some ignorant racist stuff before, but this is your best work yet. How much of your hatred of black people is rooted in your own self hatred?

---

He's not being racist whatsoever. You're going to have to explain your logic at how you arrived at that conclusion...but we both know you won't.

My guess is that you would be 100% on board with genetic testing to determine if you're white, and if you are white then you would want whites to give up a portion of their income or abandon their ill gotten white privilege gains.

---

I'm not "going to have to explain" anything to you. You're a lost cause.

---

You're incapable of explaining your positions because it will expose you as a fraud.

NOT ONCE have you explained anything to anyone on this forum. Not once have you backed up your statements.

You can't do it.

---

He's part of the dodge-squad...cinque, quash, bubba...don't explain, just deflect and accuse. But I have learned if I upset them, I'm spot on!

fadskier said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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cinque said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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cinque said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

---

fadskier said:

---

Sam Lowry said:

---

Redlining and credit discrimination are two examples, in addition to the mass incarceration we discussed on another thread.

---

Credit discrimination?
Redlining?

Can you explain those?

When are we mass incarcerating people? White cops are round up black en mass and putting them into prisons? I had not heard that.

---

Black neighborhoods became increasingly segregated and impoverished throughout the 20th century because blacks were denied access to mortgages and loans. This in turn reduced investment and destroyed job opportunities. The idea of a black ghetto became a self-fulfilling prophecy. "Mass incarceration" refers to the overall effect of the drug war. It doesn't necessarily mean that police sweep through neighborhoods rounding up prisoners en masse. However, that does happen more often than you'd guess.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/

https://www.thenation.com/article/new-jim-crow/

---

Why were blacks denied access to loans? and I'm not disputing anything before say the 80's.

Do you know who was behind the law against crack cocaine? Look up who pushed Reagan and the government into that...it wasn't white people.

http://prisontime.org/2013/08/12/timeline-black-support-for-the-war-on-drugs/

Also, laws and punishment for meth and significantly stronger that other drugs. Guess who uses that drug significantly more?

and no, white police rounding up mass blacks for prison does not happen...unless you can provide proof of that.

---

Most blacks support Planned Parenthood, too. Does that change the fact that they've killed more black people than the KKK?

---

My point is that it is not about whites. It's amazing to be that we give the black community an "excuse" because of skin color. That to me is racist. Black people cannot dictate their future like whits, Hispanics, and Asians in America? C'mon. It's like your painting a picture of the lowly black American who is powerless sorry, I don't but that and from what I am reading, most educated blacks don't either (unless they stand to make a buck over it.)

---

You've written some ignorant racist stuff before, but this is your best work yet. How much of your hatred of black people is rooted in your own self hatred?

---

He's not being racist whatsoever. You're going to have to explain your logic at how you arrived at that conclusion...but we both know you won't.

My guess is that you would be 100% on board with genetic testing to determine if you're white, and if you are white then you would want whites to give up a portion of their income or abandon their ill gotten white privilege gains.

---

I'm not "going to have to explain" anything to you. You're a lost cause.

---

You're incapable of explaining your positions because it will expose you as a fraud.

NOT ONCE have you explained anything to anyone on this forum. Not once have you backed up your statements.

You can't do it.

---

He's part of the dodge-squad...cinque, quash, bubba...don't explain, just deflect and accuse. But I have learned if I upset them, I'm spot on!

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As a miseducated, underexposed guy in his 20's, you take yourself what too seriously and would benefit greatly from allowing you closed mind to be expanded with information not filtered through Q'anon.

fadskier said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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cinque said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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cinque said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

---

fadskier said:

---

Sam Lowry said:

---

Redlining and credit discrimination are two examples, in addition to the mass incarceration we discussed on another thread.

---

Credit discrimination?
Redlining?

Can you explain those?

When are we mass incarcerating people? White cops are round up black en mass and putting them into prisons? I had not heard that.

---

Black neighborhoods became increasingly segregated and impoverished throughout the 20th century because blacks were denied access to mortgages and loans. This in turn reduced investment and destroyed job opportunities. The idea of a black ghetto became a self-fulfilling prophecy. "Mass incarceration" refers to the overall effect of the drug war. It doesn't necessarily mean that police sweep through neighborhoods rounding up prisoners en masse. However, that does happen more often than you'd guess.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/

https://www.thenation.com/article/new-jim-crow/

---

Why were blacks denied access to loans? and I'm not disputing anything before say the 80's.

Do you know who was behind the law against crack cocaine? Look up who pushed Reagan and the government into that...it wasn't white people.

http://prisontime.org/2013/08/12/timeline-black-support-for-the-war-on-drugs/

Also, laws and punishment for meth and significantly stronger that other drugs. Guess who uses that drug significantly more?

and no, white police rounding up mass blacks for prison does not happen...unless you can provide proof of that.

---

Most blacks support Planned Parenthood, too. Does that change the fact that they've killed more black people than the KKK?

---

My point is that it is not about whites. It's amazing to be that we give the black community an "excuse" because of skin color. That to me is racist. Black people cannot dictate their future like whits, Hispanics, and Asians in America? C'mon. It's like your painting a picture of the lowly black American who is powerless sorry, I don't but that and from what I am reading, most educated blacks don't either (unless they stand to make a buck over it.)

---

You've written some ignorant racist stuff before, but this is your best work yet. How much of your hatred of black people is rooted in your own self hatred?

---

He's not being racist whatsoever. You're going to have to explain your logic at how you arrived at that conclusion...but we both know you won't.

My guess is that you would be 100% on board with genetic testing to determine if you're white, and if you are white then you would want whites to give up a portion of their income or abandon their ill gotten white privilege gains.

---

I'm not "going to have to explain" anything to you. You're a lost cause.

---

You're incapable of explaining your positions because it will expose you as a fraud.

NOT ONCE have you explained anything to anyone on this forum. Not once have you backed up your statements.

You can't do it.

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He's part of the dodge-squad...cinque, quash, bubba...don't explain, just deflect and accuse. But I have learned if I upset them, I'm spot on!

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Yep.

Lately that group has been on the whole "comrade", "do you speak Russian" etc. thing. They learned this from leftists.

And they pretend like they're not Democratic party shills.

Sam Lowry said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Redlining and credit discrimination are two examples, in addition to the mass incarceration we discussed on another thread.

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Credit discrimination?
Redlining?

Can you explain those?

When are we mass incarcerating people? White cops are round up black en mass and putting them into prisons? I had not heard that.

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Black neighborhoods became increasingly segregated and impoverished throughout the 20th century because blacks were denied access to mortgages and loans. This in turn reduced investment and destroyed job opportunities. The idea of a black ghetto became a self-fulfilling prophecy. "Mass incarceration" refers to the overall effect of the drug war. It doesn't necessarily mean that police sweep through neighborhoods rounding up prisoners en masse. However, that does happen more often than you'd guess.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/

https://www.thenation.com/article/new-jim-crow/

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Recent legal immigrants also live in the poor neighborhoods with reduced investment and reduced job opportunities. But, second generation immigrants make way more money than their parents, graduate college at much higher rates, are much more likely to own homes, and far less likely to be in poverty.

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/02/07/second-generation-americans/

Why do immigrants from the same housing situation improve in as little as 20 years but the same does not happen for blacks in the same areas who are born here?

Edmond Bear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Redlining and credit discrimination are two examples, in addition to the mass incarceration we discussed on another thread.

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Credit discrimination?
Redlining?

Can you explain those?

When are we mass incarcerating people? White cops are round up black en mass and putting them into prisons? I had not heard that.

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Black neighborhoods became increasingly segregated and impoverished throughout the 20th century because blacks were denied access to mortgages and loans. This in turn reduced investment and destroyed job opportunities. The idea of a black ghetto became a self-fulfilling prophecy. "Mass incarceration" refers to the overall effect of the drug war. It doesn't necessarily mean that police sweep through neighborhoods rounding up prisoners en masse. However, that does happen more often than you'd guess.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/

https://www.thenation.com/article/new-jim-crow/

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Recent legal immigrants also live in the poor neighborhoods with reduced investment and reduced job opportunities. But, second generation immigrants make way more money than their parents, graduate college at much higher rates, are much more likely to own homes, and far less likely to be in poverty.

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/02/07/second-generation-americans/

Why do immigrants from the same housing situation improve in as little as 20 years but the same does not happen for blacks in the same areas who are born here?

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What evidence do you have that the same is not true for blacks?

Someone will have to quote cinque. I have him/her on ignore.

Edmond Bear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Redlining and credit discrimination are two examples, in addition to the mass incarceration we discussed on another thread.

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Credit discrimination?
Redlining?

Can you explain those?

When are we mass incarcerating people? White cops are round up black en mass and putting them into prisons? I had not heard that.

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Black neighborhoods became increasingly segregated and impoverished throughout the 20th century because blacks were denied access to mortgages and loans. This in turn reduced investment and destroyed job opportunities. The idea of a black ghetto became a self-fulfilling prophecy. "Mass incarceration" refers to the overall effect of the drug war. It doesn't necessarily mean that police sweep through neighborhoods rounding up prisoners en masse. However, that does happen more often than you'd guess.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/

https://www.thenation.com/article/new-jim-crow/

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Recent legal immigrants also live in the poor neighborhoods with reduced investment and reduced job opportunities. But, second generation immigrants make way more money than their parents, graduate college at much higher rates, are much more likely to own homes, and far less likely to be in poverty.

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/02/07/second-generation-americans/

Why do immigrants from the same housing situation improve in as little as 20 years but the same does not happen for blacks in the same areas who are born here?

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Culture.
Everything revolves around culture.

Blacks are used as pawns by the Democrat party for a perpetual voting source.
Democrats make sure to perpetuate cultural issues on them:

Ex. Tell them they can't succeed. Tell them virtually everything negative in their lives is not because of their own doing, but because of other races.

It's a divide and conquer tactic used in several leftist and communistic societies.

Literally Cinque here is opposed to everything MLK Jr. said: judge by character only.

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Someone will have to quote cinque. I have him/her on ignore.

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Why would you and others like you in this and similar threads choose to talk with other white people about black people rather than hear from a black person with a lived experience of being black?

Yeah, Cinque I can tell that you used my quote but have no idea what you're saying. That's how the 'Ignore' function works. Life is more intelligent and real when you are on ignore.

Edmond Bear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Redlining and credit discrimination are two examples, in addition to the mass incarceration we discussed on another thread.

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Credit discrimination?
Redlining?

Can you explain those?

When are we mass incarcerating people? White cops are round up black en mass and putting them into prisons? I had not heard that.

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Black neighborhoods became increasingly segregated and impoverished throughout the 20th century because blacks were denied access to mortgages and loans. This in turn reduced investment and destroyed job opportunities. The idea of a black ghetto became a self-fulfilling prophecy. "Mass incarceration" refers to the overall effect of the drug war. It doesn't necessarily mean that police sweep through neighborhoods rounding up prisoners en masse. However, that does happen more often than you'd guess.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/

https://www.thenation.com/article/new-jim-crow/

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Recent legal immigrants also live in the poor neighborhoods with reduced investment and reduced job opportunities. But, second generation immigrants make way more money than their parents, graduate college at much higher rates, are much more likely to own homes, and far less likely to be in poverty.

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/02/07/second-generation-americans/

Why do immigrants from the same housing situation improve in as little as 20 years but the same does not happen for blacks in the same areas who are born here?

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I think there are a number of reasons. Blacks are still much more vulnerable to predatory lending, which affects not only their own credit worthiness but also that of their families, friends, and acquaintances. Credit ratings may be technically color blind, but the factors that go into credit algorithms have already been skewed by decades of discrimination. In this way old injustices are perpetuated. Like all catastrophes, the sexual revolution has done the most damage to those who were poorest and most vulnerable to begin with. Illegitimacy and promiscuity lead to even more poverty and violence. So the cycle continues.

I'll give you credit Sam. You made some good points although I may not totally agree with you. When I ask bubba, quash and others to explain white privilege, they can't Instead they double down on accusations, say that if they explain, I won't agree or that I won't understand. They can't refute any facts that I have presented. Basically it tells me that they want to believe something that they don't even understand.

Here's another black american talking about the non-existence and excuse making

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I'll give you credit Sam. You made some good points although I may not totally agree with you. When I ask bubba, quash and others to explain white privilege, they can't Instead they double down on accusations, say that if they explain, I won't agree or that I won't understand. They can't refute any facts that I have presented. Basically it tells me that they want to believe something that they don't even understand.

Here's another black american talking about the non-existence and excuse making

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Quash is a good guy. He gets frustrated from always explaining that he's a libertarian and not a Democrat. Used to happen to me when I was a libertarian, too.

Edmond Bear said:

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Yeah, Cinque I can tell that you used my quote but have no idea what you're saying. That's how the 'Ignore' function works. Life is more intelligent and real when you are on ignore.

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Somebody should let you know the ignore feature is failing you. Badly.

Doc Holliday said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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If you virtue signalers who think white privilege is real, why don't you abandon your ill gotten gains because of your white skin and give it up to a non white person?

Have you done this yet?

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No way.

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Why not?

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All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.

Sir Hillary Rodent Clinton

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Someone will have to quote cinque. I have him/her on ignore.

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She/he/lt is now crawfishing away from her/his/it's false claims of "white privilege".

Same shiite... different day.

fadskier said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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cinque said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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cinque said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Redlining and credit discrimination are two examples, in addition to the mass incarceration we discussed on another thread.

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Credit discrimination?
Redlining?

Can you explain those?

When are we mass incarcerating people? White cops are round up black en mass and putting them into prisons? I had not heard that.

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Black neighborhoods became increasingly segregated and impoverished throughout the 20th century because blacks were denied access to mortgages and loans. This in turn reduced investment and destroyed job opportunities. The idea of a black ghetto became a self-fulfilling prophecy. "Mass incarceration" refers to the overall effect of the drug war. It doesn't necessarily mean that police sweep through neighborhoods rounding up prisoners en masse. However, that does happen more often than you'd guess.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/

https://www.thenation.com/article/new-jim-crow/

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Why were blacks denied access to loans? and I'm not disputing anything before say the 80's.

Do you know who was behind the law against crack cocaine? Look up who pushed Reagan and the government into that...it wasn't white people.

http://prisontime.org/2013/08/12/timeline-black-support-for-the-war-on-drugs/

Also, laws and punishment for meth and significantly stronger that other drugs. Guess who uses that drug significantly more?

and no, white police rounding up mass blacks for prison does not happen...unless you can provide proof of that.

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Most blacks support Planned Parenthood, too. Does that change the fact that they've killed more black people than the KKK?

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My point is that it is not about whites. It's amazing to be that we give the black community an "excuse" because of skin color. That to me is racist. Black people cannot dictate their future like whits, Hispanics, and Asians in America? C'mon. It's like your painting a picture of the lowly black American who is powerless sorry, I don't but that and from what I am reading, most educated blacks don't either (unless they stand to make a buck over it.)

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You've written some ignorant racist stuff before, but this is your best work yet. How much of your hatred of black people is rooted in your own self hatred?

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He's not being racist whatsoever. You're going to have to explain your logic at how you arrived at that conclusion...but we both know you won't.

My guess is that you would be 100% on board with genetic testing to determine if you're white, and if you are white then you would want whites to give up a portion of their income or abandon their ill gotten white privilege gains.

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I'm not "going to have to explain" anything to you. You're a lost cause.

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You're incapable of explaining your positions because it will expose you as a fraud.

NOT ONCE have you explained anything to anyone on this forum. Not once have you backed up your statements.

You can't do it.

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He's part of the dodge-squad...cinque, quash, bubba...don't explain, just deflect and accuse. But I have learned if I upset them, I'm spot on!

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That is a horrible gauge of accuracy. Educate yourself.

quash said:

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fadskier said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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cinque said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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cinque said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Redlining and credit discrimination are two examples, in addition to the mass incarceration we discussed on another thread.

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Credit discrimination?
Redlining?

Can you explain those?

When are we mass incarcerating people? White cops are round up black en mass and putting them into prisons? I had not heard that.

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Black neighborhoods became increasingly segregated and impoverished throughout the 20th century because blacks were denied access to mortgages and loans. This in turn reduced investment and destroyed job opportunities. The idea of a black ghetto became a self-fulfilling prophecy. "Mass incarceration" refers to the overall effect of the drug war. It doesn't necessarily mean that police sweep through neighborhoods rounding up prisoners en masse. However, that does happen more often than you'd guess.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/

https://www.thenation.com/article/new-jim-crow/

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Why were blacks denied access to loans? and I'm not disputing anything before say the 80's.

Do you know who was behind the law against crack cocaine? Look up who pushed Reagan and the government into that...it wasn't white people.

http://prisontime.org/2013/08/12/timeline-black-support-for-the-war-on-drugs/

Also, laws and punishment for meth and significantly stronger that other drugs. Guess who uses that drug significantly more?

and no, white police rounding up mass blacks for prison does not happen...unless you can provide proof of that.

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Most blacks support Planned Parenthood, too. Does that change the fact that they've killed more black people than the KKK?

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My point is that it is not about whites. It's amazing to be that we give the black community an "excuse" because of skin color. That to me is racist. Black people cannot dictate their future like whits, Hispanics, and Asians in America? C'mon. It's like your painting a picture of the lowly black American who is powerless sorry, I don't but that and from what I am reading, most educated blacks don't either (unless they stand to make a buck over it.)

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You've written some ignorant racist stuff before, but this is your best work yet. How much of your hatred of black people is rooted in your own self hatred?

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He's not being racist whatsoever. You're going to have to explain your logic at how you arrived at that conclusion...but we both know you won't.

My guess is that you would be 100% on board with genetic testing to determine if you're white, and if you are white then you would want whites to give up a portion of their income or abandon their ill gotten white privilege gains.

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I'm not "going to have to explain" anything to you. You're a lost cause.

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You're incapable of explaining your positions because it will expose you as a fraud.

NOT ONCE have you explained anything to anyone on this forum. Not once have you backed up your statements.

You can't do it.

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He's part of the dodge-squad...cinque, quash, bubba...don't explain, just deflect and accuse. But I have learned if I upset them, I'm spot on!

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That is a horrible gauge of accuracy. Educate yourself.

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^^^ Fadskier is again ...... "spot on" apparently

Quash comes through making Fadskier's point

LOL

Here are others who can't defend/explain facts:

bubbadog said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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cinque said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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#fakenews justification from the left to lay failure blame on anyone but themselves.

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It's not fake news to assert that you're oblivious to your attendant white privilege until it's no longer there.

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Being white (or brown or black or pink or purple) has zero bearing. I had equal opportunity as the kids of color in my hometown. I chose to go to study hard, chose to go to college, chose to get a job, chose to go to church, etc. We had the same opportunities and same choices; therefore, white privilege is a bullshlt excuse and lays blame of failure on others.

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That's what I always thought, too. I never felt privileged. We were lower middle class. We worked hard for everything.

But did you know that the GI Bill originally did not apply to African-Americans? I didn't until a couple of years ago. And in a way, that gave me an advantage when I got my first job out of Baylor, even though the GI Bill didn't directly apply to me.

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The bolded above is false.

It did apply to African Americans. From the start. Private companies like banks and mortgage lenders refused to give blacks loans. Most universities were still segregated and would not accept blacks. HBU's or HBC's couldn't financially handle a large influx of applications/students and therefore had to deny some applicants. But the law never said they were not eligible.


https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/us-history/postwarera/postwar-era/a/african-americans-women-and-the-gi-bill

http://progressive.org/dispatches/how-african-american-wwii-veterans-were-scorned-by-the-g-i-b/

Sam Lowry said:

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Edmond Bear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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fadskier said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Redlining and credit discrimination are two examples, in addition to the mass incarceration we discussed on another thread.

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Credit discrimination?
Redlining?

Can you explain those?

When are we mass incarcerating people? White cops are round up black en mass and putting them into prisons? I had not heard that.

---

Black neighborhoods became increasingly segregated and impoverished throughout the 20th century because blacks were denied access to mortgages and loans. This in turn reduced investment and destroyed job opportunities. The idea of a black ghetto became a self-fulfilling prophecy. "Mass incarceration" refers to the overall effect of the drug war. It doesn't necessarily mean that police sweep through neighborhoods rounding up prisoners en masse. However, that does happen more often than you'd guess.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/

https://www.thenation.com/article/new-jim-crow/

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Recent legal immigrants also live in the poor neighborhoods with reduced investment and reduced job opportunities. But, second generation immigrants make way more money than their parents, graduate college at much higher rates, are much more likely to own homes, and far less likely to be in poverty.

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/02/07/second-generation-americans/

Why do immigrants from the same housing situation improve in as little as 20 years but the same does not happen for blacks in the same areas who are born here?

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I think there are a number of reasons. Blacks are still much more vulnerable to predatory lending, which affects not only their own credit worthiness but also that of their families, friends, and acquaintances. Credit ratings may be technically color blind, but the factors that go into credit algorithms have already been skewed by decades of discrimination. In this way old injustices are perpetuated. Like all catastrophes, the sexual revolution has done the most damage to those who were poorest and most vulnerable to begin with. Illegitimacy and promiscuity lead to even more poverty and violence. So the cycle continues.

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Hi Sam, thank you for a reasoned discussion. I appreciate your willingness to offer different ideas and have a conversation.

My response on credit worthiness would be to note that the same thing happens in immigrant neighborhoods. Recent immigrants are exposed to the same level of predatory lending as blacks.

I do think you hit it correctly when you noted that illegitimacy and promiscuity are the cause. The highest correlating factor to poverty is not education spending, rate of minimum wage, welfare spending, or even the unemployment rate.

The single highest predictor of poverty is families led by a single mom. And, this is true across all races. Link to Study

IMO, the problem is not race. It doesn't matter which race is making babies without the continual presence of a father in the household. The problem is culture.

In today's paper, George Will said:

"Unfortunately, the best predictor of a school's performance is the quality of family life from which the children come -- the quantity and quality of reading matter in the home, the amount of homework done there -- and most important, the number of parents in the home."