TexasScientist said:
Oldbear83 said:
TS: "Science cannot evaluate that which does not exist."
More precisely, humans cannot use Science to evaluate what they cannot comprehend.
Ergo, any entity that could be accurately be described as God, would necessarily be beyond human comprehension and therefore also beyond the scope of Science.
If something exists, it can be evaluated. We use science to evaluate what we cannot comprehend. That's how we have come to understand what we do know about the universe.
In order to accurately describe a god, there would have to be empirical physical evidence upon which to make that description, in order to take that god out of the imagination of men and into objective reality.
"If something exists, it can be evaluated"Not necessarily true. For example, we could not evaluate quantum mechanics until we had a means to observe them. Prior to the 20th Century, such phenomena existed but could not evaluated for that reason. Ergo, anything beyond our perception and observation must be beyond our evaluation.
"We use science to evaluate what we cannot comprehend"Not accurate. When we perceive phenomena we don't understand, we
speculate about that phenomena and adjust our guesses as we get more comprehension. The two go together, it's silly to imagine valid evaluation without comprehension.
" In order to accurately describe a god, we would have to have empirical physical evidence upon which to make that description"
That, if you pay attention, is just what the religions of men try to do. Supernatural events happen, and people try to describe the phenomena, using reason and the available facts.
" in order to take that god out of the imagination of men and into objective reality"And here is where you fail. Anything beyond the scope of man is something which we cannot fully understand, and therefore cannot be organized and neatly categorized by the rules by which we are bound.
We cannot comprehend eternity, for example. We not only live finite lives with dates of our birth and death, we also experience time subjectively, and so perceive it only in one aspect. If an entity existed which was able to control time, it could - at least in theory - exist without temporal limits.
You keep trying to define God by human limits. That's a circular argument,
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier