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Sounds like a recount will happen in Mich and Wisc but that may not overcome the magic 200,000 and 138,000 ballots found last night , all mail in, something smells. If there legit, so be it, but it smells from here.

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It's statistically impossible that they're 100% for Biden.

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These weren't state-wide votes, they were from heavily blue populated areas. Also they're not 100% anyone.

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Yes they were.



100% of these 128K+ votes were for Biden.

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You should have votes counted by election night

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That's literally never how it has worked.

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But it probably is how it should work, the exception being Americans living abroad whose vote should certainly count regardless of how long it takes the APO system to deliver it. For everyone else there is no reason we shouldnt simply have voting week with one day being a national holiday so everyone who wants to has the opportunity to vote.

There is really no reason we need to count votes for a week or two or three or however long. FFS this is 2020, I can order a package from Amazon and have it to my house, usually the same day if not the next, there is no reason we cant find a way to vote that doesnt incur 2 hour lines and requires 3 days of counting paper ballots.

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And yet Trump was the one blocking the early counting of mail in ballots:
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/522566-trump-campaign-asks-court-to-block-early-vote-counting-in-nevada

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I dont care who did it. This is an issue we should all be able to agree upon. Elections dont need to drag out for days. I believe voting should be done in person, with identification and Im not sure why that is so controversial, however, I dont much care what the method it doesnt need to take a month to figure this out. Early voting, vote by mail, in person...whatever, there's just no reason in 2020 this takes so much time and energy.

Im very much over all of the drama and conspiracy theories.

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I am all about states rights and each state is allowed to hold elections as they see fit. That being said, I am in full agreement with you regarding ID etc. I say we put ChicFillA in charge of voting in all states.

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Anybody but Popeyes, somehow it still takes them 30 minutes to scoop red beans and rice into a styrofoam container.

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I bleeping love Popeyes but man they will hire anyone who walks in.

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They dont even have to be able to speak or have arms.

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Popeyes had turned around a good bit under Bachelder but the last three years it looks like they're sliding backwards again. I've noticed the local one often only has one person doing all of the counter work -- taking orders and filling orders. There is no way you can do that in a reasonable amount of time.

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Sounds like a recount will happen in Mich and Wisc but that may not overcome the magic 200,000 and 138,000 ballots found last night , all mail in, something smells. If there legit, so be it, but it smells from here.

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Again, where are y'all actually seeing that? I saw about 169,000 that came back 85% for Biden, as would be expected based on what those ballots were.

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OK, so please explain that one to me. How do you see 85% Biden anywhere in any Michigan county?

This smells like LBJ-level fraud.

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If you're arguing along the lines of whoever you quoted, show me where a magic 200,000 and 138,000 came in that was 100% Biden?

I didn't stay up all night by the way, so I am legitimately saying, please show me where these 100% Biden 138,000 and 200,000 vote dumps are. What I did see during the period I was awake was a increase in counted ballots that should have been for Biden based on where (not just county, but voting method) they were coming from.

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Sounds like a recount will happen in Mich and Wisc but that may not overcome the magic 200,000 and 138,000 ballots found last night , all mail in, something smells. If there legit, so be it, but it smells from here.

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It's statistically impossible that they're 100% for Biden.

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These weren't state-wide votes, they were from heavily blue populated areas. Also they're not 100% anyone.

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Yes they were.



100% of these 128K+ votes were for Biden.

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THANK YOU

It's like some of you are trying to get along. Please stop that nonsense. It's bad for R&P board business.

Where in the heck is cingue?

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chriscbear said:

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Sounds like a recount will happen in Mich and Wisc but that may not overcome the magic 200,000 and 138,000 ballots found last night , all mail in, something smells. If there legit, so be it, but it smells from here.

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It's statistically impossible that they're 100% for Biden.

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These weren't state-wide votes, they were from heavily blue populated areas. Also they're not 100% anyone.

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Yes they were.



100% of these 128K+ votes were for Biden.

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Source?

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Sounds like a recount will happen in Mich and Wisc but that may not overcome the magic 200,000 and 138,000 ballots found last night , all mail in, something smells. If there legit, so be it, but it smells from here.

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Again, where are y'all actually seeing that? I saw about 169,000 that came back 85% for Biden, as would be expected based on what those ballots were.

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OK, so please explain that one to me. How do you see 85% Biden anywhere in any Michigan county?

This smells like LBJ-level fraud.

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It literally is which type of vote is counted when. It is sequencing.

In-person voting on Election Day was overwhelmingly Trump.

The early voters, the mail-in voters, were overwhelmingly Biden. In huge ways. If you said 85% of mail in votes were democrat in Michigan, the GOP would not challenge the number. It's why Trump went on his twitter vent last night; there were over 1.5 million early/mail ballots to count still in Pennsylvania alone.

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Sounds like a recount will happen in Mich and Wisc but that may not overcome the magic 200,000 and 138,000 ballots found last night , all mail in, something smells. If there legit, so be it, but it smells from here.

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It's statistically impossible that they're 100% for Biden.

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These weren't state-wide votes, they were from heavily blue populated areas. Also they're not 100% anyone.

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Yes they were.



100% of these 128K+ votes were for Biden.

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magic!

Ruh-roh,

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Sounds like a recount will happen in Mich and Wisc but that may not overcome the magic 200,000 and 138,000 ballots found last night , all mail in, something smells. If there legit, so be it, but it smells from here.

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It's statistically impossible that they're 100% for Biden.

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These weren't state-wide votes, they were from heavily blue populated areas. Also they're not 100% anyone.

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Yes they were.



100% of these 128K+ votes were for Biden.

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Source?

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It may be unclear to some, but the reason for the overwhelming majority of mail in ballots and early voting being for Biden is the fear Democrats have of voter suppression and purposeful delays in the USPS delivering ballots on time.

If Trump hadn't interfered or threatened to interfere with voting rights we wouldn't have so many early and mail in ballots.

This is what I was referencing earlier, and it's from a liberal rag so it carries even more weight, IMO.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-looks-screwed-even-wins-105830146.html

Biden looks screwed even if he wins

This is not the outcome Democrats expected.

Despite many bold predictions of a rout in which Democrats gained (or re-gained) Trumpian red territory of 2016, as of early Wednesday only one state Arizona had flipped from red to blue. Six states remain outstanding: Georgia, North Carolina, Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.

Assuming North Carolina and Georgia have slipped away from Biden Georgia is not out of reach for him and that Nevada remains blue, the best-case scenario for the former vice president is a 290-electoral vote victory. That's more than George W. Bush achieved in his two successful campaigns (271 in 2000 and 286 in 2004), but fewer than Barack Obama (365 in 2008 and 332 in 2012) and Donald Trump (304 in 2016).

A win, of course, is a win. But if Biden is victorious, it will be under radically curtailed circumstances from what Democrats had assumed.

There are few hints in the 2020 results of a realignment akin to what Ronald Reagan achieved when he made Jimmy Carter a one-term president in 1980 and ushered in the era of modern conservatism. There is no sense that Biden has reformed and re-invented the Democratic Party to be more competitive the way Bill Clinton did in 1992, when he defeated George H.W. Bush. There aren't yet hints that Biden has assembled a new coalition the way that Obama did in 2008.

Biden lost ground with Black voters and Latinos, though he gained some ground with white voters. Realignments are generally built around concrete ideas and specific policy platforms. But this campaign was always a referendum on Trump, rather than an affirmative endorsement of Biden and his agenda. That dynamic already cut against Biden claiming a strong positive mandate. He needed a crushing rejection of Trump to strengthen his case.

He also needed the Senate.

But Democrats may fail to realize widespread predictions of re-taking the chamber. That would mean whoever prevails in the presidential race, Mitch McConnell might remain in charge of the upper chamber, retaining his role as arguably the most consequential politician in Washington. In that case Biden would be the first president in 32 years to come into office without control of Congress, another dynamic that would weaken claims of a mandate.

The Democrats' anti-filibuster movement and its interest in expanding the Supreme Court and the Senate, or any other process reforms to maximize a new Democratic president's power and influence, would be placed on pause. A President Biden's agenda would be defined by his ability to win over the entire Senate Democratic caucus, from Bernie Sanders to Joe Manchin, and then as many as 10 Republicans. Ultimately, Biden would have to deal with McConnell, who would undoubtedly reprise the role he played in the Obama era when he had no incentive to help Obama rack up legislative achievements.

Final results that fall short of a massive rejection of Trump, as seems likely, would fail to trigger the repudiation of Trumpism in the Republican Party that many Democrats and a minority of Republicans had hoped for. As John Harris argues, whatever the final numbers, Trump's appeal to half the country has proven to be durable. Even a narrow Biden victory would generate a larger debate about Trump's harm to Republicans, but the full-scale de-Trumpification of the GOP required a landslide.

To be sure, presidents who have won narrow victories have been able to turn them into consequential presidencies. Bill Clinton, a popular vote plurality victor, passed much of his first term agenda and comfortably won reelection. Circumstances can always intervene. George W. Bush, the lowest electoral vote winner in modern history, vastly expanded executive branch powers after 9/11 on his way to reelection.

But this is not the scenario many Democrats hoped and prepared for. They wanted a landslide that ended before midnight on Election Day, one that unambiguously crushed Trump and Trumpism, swept in a Democratic Senate, and showed a large majority for the Biden agenda.

Some of these goals could become more real as the final numbers post. But instead, at least for now, Democrats have an unsettled outcome, a real possibility of a second Trump term, and in that vacuum of uncertainty a president who immediately began sowing doubts about the final results, in a speech in the East Room at 2:30 a.m., and making threats to disenfranchise Americans.

In fairness, a lot of Biden advisers tried to tamp down expectations. A senior Biden adviser told me last week that the "path of least resistance" for a Biden victory was through Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, and the single electoral vote from Nebraska-2, a combination that wouldn't require North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, or even Pennsylvania. It would be just enough for 270 electoral votes.

On Wednesday morning that appeared to be one of the more likely paths for Biden to become president: a bare victory, but victory nonetheless.

Haven't verified accuracy.

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This is what I was referencing earlier, and it's from a liberal rag so it carries even more weight, IMO.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-looks-screwed-even-wins-105830146.html

Biden looks screwed even if he wins

This is not the outcome Democrats expected.

Despite many bold predictions of a rout in which Democrats gained (or re-gained) Trumpian red territory of 2016, as of early Wednesday only one state Arizona had flipped from red to blue. Six states remain outstanding: Georgia, North Carolina, Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.

Assuming North Carolina and Georgia have slipped away from Biden Georgia is not out of reach for him and that Nevada remains blue, the best-case scenario for the former vice president is a 290-electoral vote victory. That's more than George W. Bush achieved in his two successful campaigns (271 in 2000 and 286 in 2004), but fewer than Barack Obama (365 in 2008 and 332 in 2012) and Donald Trump (304 in 2016).

A win, of course, is a win. But if Biden is victorious, it will be under radically curtailed circumstances from what Democrats had assumed.

There are few hints in the 2020 results of a realignment akin to what Ronald Reagan achieved when he made Jimmy Carter a one-term president in 1980 and ushered in the era of modern conservatism. There is no sense that Biden has reformed and re-invented the Democratic Party to be more competitive the way Bill Clinton did in 1992, when he defeated George H.W. Bush. There aren't yet hints that Biden has assembled a new coalition the way that Obama did in 2008.

Biden lost ground with Black voters and Latinos, though he gained some ground with white voters. Realignments are generally built around concrete ideas and specific policy platforms. But this campaign was always a referendum on Trump, rather than an affirmative endorsement of Biden and his agenda. That dynamic already cut against Biden claiming a strong positive mandate. He needed a crushing rejection of Trump to strengthen his case.

He also needed the Senate.

But Democrats may fail to realize widespread predictions of re-taking the chamber. That would mean whoever prevails in the presidential race, Mitch McConnell might remain in charge of the upper chamber, retaining his role as arguably the most consequential politician in Washington. In that case Biden would be the first president in 32 years to come into office without control of Congress, another dynamic that would weaken claims of a mandate.

The Democrats' anti-filibuster movement and its interest in expanding the Supreme Court and the Senate, or any other process reforms to maximize a new Democratic president's power and influence, would be placed on pause. A President Biden's agenda would be defined by his ability to win over the entire Senate Democratic caucus, from Bernie Sanders to Joe Manchin, and then as many as 10 Republicans. Ultimately, Biden would have to deal with McConnell, who would undoubtedly reprise the role he played in the Obama era when he had no incentive to help Obama rack up legislative achievements.

Final results that fall short of a massive rejection of Trump, as seems likely, would fail to trigger the repudiation of Trumpism in the Republican Party that many Democrats and a minority of Republicans had hoped for. As John Harris argues, whatever the final numbers, Trump's appeal to half the country has proven to be durable. Even a narrow Biden victory would generate a larger debate about Trump's harm to Republicans, but the full-scale de-Trumpification of the GOP required a landslide.

To be sure, presidents who have won narrow victories have been able to turn them into consequential presidencies. Bill Clinton, a popular vote plurality victor, passed much of his first term agenda and comfortably won reelection. Circumstances can always intervene. George W. Bush, the lowest electoral vote winner in modern history, vastly expanded executive branch powers after 9/11 on his way to reelection.

But this is not the scenario many Democrats hoped and prepared for. They wanted a landslide that ended before midnight on Election Day, one that unambiguously crushed Trump and Trumpism, swept in a Democratic Senate, and showed a large majority for the Biden agenda.

Some of these goals could become more real as the final numbers post. But instead, at least for now, Democrats have an unsettled outcome, a real possibility of a second Trump term, and in that vacuum of uncertainty a president who immediately began sowing doubts about the final results, in a speech in the East Room at 2:30 a.m., and making threats to disenfranchise Americans.

In fairness, a lot of Biden advisers tried to tamp down expectations. A senior Biden adviser told me last week that the "path of least resistance" for a Biden victory was through Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, and the single electoral vote from Nebraska-2, a combination that wouldn't require North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, or even Pennsylvania. It would be just enough for 270 electoral votes.

On Wednesday morning that appeared to be one of the more likely paths for Biden to become president: a bare victory, but victory nonetheless.

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None of this matters because the intent was never for Biden to transform or create a coalition. Biden's job was to win the election, and get 25th'd by the end of next year.

Just told there are 3.6M registered voters in WI. So that isn't accurate that is a heckuva high %.

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Wisconsin dumped 138,000 votes during the night into the system and almost 135,000 went for Biden. This is not possible. Put someone in jail then this will change.

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No one is going to jail.

Soon it will be online 'voting' .

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How can states find extra votes to achieve their desired result, if it is done online. I'm not worried, they would find a way.

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Sounds like a recount will happen in Mich and Wisc but that may not overcome the magic 200,000 and 138,000 ballots found last night , all mail in, something smells. If there legit, so be it, but it smells from here.

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It's statistically impossible that they're 100% for Biden.

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These weren't state-wide votes, they were from heavily blue populated areas. Also they're not 100% anyone.

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Yes they were.



100% of these 128K+ votes were for Biden.

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Source?

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So tweets from hyper-partisan pseudo-journalists?

Are any legitimate news sources corroborating this report?

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Just told there are 3.6M registered voters in WI. So that isn't accurate that is a heckuva high %.

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That would be an unprecedented high voter participation. 89%?

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Just told there are 3.6M registered voters in WI. So that isn't accurate that is a heckuva high %.

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That would be an unprecedented high voter participation. 89%?

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That's what I just texted someone.

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Just told there are 3.6M registered voters in WI. So that isn't accurate that is a heckuva high %.

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How many of them were registered yesterday?

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Sounds like a recount will happen in Mich and Wisc but that may not overcome the magic 200,000 and 138,000 ballots found last night , all mail in, something smells. If there legit, so be it, but it smells from here.

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It's statistically impossible that they're 100% for Biden.

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These weren't state-wide votes, they were from heavily blue populated areas. Also they're not 100% anyone.

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Yes they were.



100% of these 128K+ votes were for Biden.

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Source?

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So tweets from hyper-partisan pseudo-journalists?

Are any legitimate news sources corroborating this report?

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You might be confused. This is what news media is reporting which shows 100%.

They've been wrong every step of the way. Either it gets corrected or there's a huge red flag here.

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Just told there are 3.6M registered voters in WI. So that isn't accurate that is a heckuva high %.

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How many of them were registered yesterday?

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And how many listed this as their place of residence?

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It may be unclear to some, but the reason for the overwhelming majority of mail in ballots and early voting being for Biden is the fear Democrats have of voter suppression and purposeful delays in the USPS delivering ballots on time.

If Trump hadn't interfered or threatened to interfere with voting rights we wouldn't have so many early and mail in ballots.

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majority is not 100% of a ballot count dump... come on man!

Big tech is in controll. Liberal media is in controll. Liberal educators are in controll. The globalist are in controll. None of this is good. The good news is God is actually still in controll. God bless.

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Big tech is in controll. Liberal media is in controll. Liberal educators are in controll. The globalist are in controll. None of this is good. The good news is God is actually still in controll. God bless.

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That bad news is, you spelled control wrong 4 times in 7 very short, very broken sentences.

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Sounds like a recount will happen in Mich and Wisc but that may not overcome the magic 200,000 and 138,000 ballots found last night , all mail in, something smells. If there legit, so be it, but it smells from here.

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It's statistically impossible that they're 100% for Biden.

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These weren't state-wide votes, they were from heavily blue populated areas. Also they're not 100% anyone.

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Yes they were.



100% of these 128K+ votes were for Biden.

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Source?

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So tweets from hyper-partisan pseudo-journalists?

Are any legitimate news sources corroborating this report?

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You might be confused. This is what news media is reporting which shows 100%.

They've been wrong every step of the way. Either it gets corrected or there's a huge red flag here.

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I am confused. I've watched multiple networks on both ends of the political spectrum and heard no mention of this. That would seem odd if this information was verified.

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It's like some of you are trying to get along. Please stop that nonsense. It's bad for R&P board business.

Where in the heck is cingue?

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Probably meeting up with his ANTIFA buddies in DC.

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Haven't verified accuracy.

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It isn't accurate. It's more of the BS being thrown up on social media.

There are 3.6 million registered in WI. About 3.25 million counted so far.

An AZ voter I know just received this.

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Please Arizona! If you come through for us I promise my next vacation will be to Arizona and I will spend a ****load of $$$$$!

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It's like some of you are trying to get along. Please stop that nonsense. It's bad for R&P board business.

Where in the heck is cingue?

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Probably meeting up with his ANTIFA buddies in DC.

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Or passed out on a street corner in Portland shot up full of newly-legal heroin and meth.

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Haven't verified accuracy.

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It isn't accurate. It's more of the BS being thrown up on social media.

There are 3.6 million registered in WI. About 3.25 million counted so far.

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NM

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Throw in another $80mm plus for MJ Fatass, with an additional 10% margin.

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Why is it necessary to insult Hegar's appearance to make a political point?

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I agree. I think calling her the Biker Babe would be much more appropriate.

Another text making the rounds in AZ.

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