Cubans in FL, Mexicans in south TX...it's why I'm surprised Trump didn't pick up more Hispanics in AZ.whitetrash said:Jefferson, Galveston and Nueces used to be the most reliable midsize blue counties in the state. All went for Trump.Brian Ethridge said:
Biden lost a county in the VALLEY! THE VALLEY!
Not a bad recap. Still a ton of balls up in the air.Booray said:
Recapping:
For Joe Biden to become President he must:
(1) Hold Nevada (pretty likely);
(2) Win Michigan and Wisconsin (Pretty likely)
(3) Win Az., Pa., Ga. or N.Car. (less likely individually but even money he gets at least one of the four. Note if it is Penn, he no longer need Nevada)
(4) Withstand the legal challenge to those results (not likely)
Yeah, that's pretty obvious reading this board. :-)Robert Wilson said:Not a bad recap. Still a ton of balls up in the air.Booray said:
Recapping:
For Joe Biden to become President he must:
(1) Hold Nevada (pretty likely);
(2) Win Michigan and Wisconsin (Pretty likely)
(3) Win Az., Pa., Ga. or N.Car. (less likely individually but even money he gets at least one of the four. Note if it is Penn, he no longer need Nevada)
(4) Withstand the legal challenge to those results (not likely)
But it's worth it.br53 said:Anybody but Popeyes, somehow it still takes them 30 minutes to scoop red beans and rice into a styrofoam container.LIB,MR BEARS said:I am all about states rights and each state is allowed to hold elections as they see fit. That being said, I am in full agreement with you regarding ID etc. I say we put ChicFillA in charge of voting in all states.nein51 said:I dont care who did it. This is an issue we should all be able to agree upon. Elections dont need to drag out for days. I believe voting should be done in person, with identification and Im not sure why that is so controversial, however, I dont much care what the method it doesnt need to take a month to figure this out. Early voting, vote by mail, in person...whatever, there's just no reason in 2020 this takes so much time and energy.BayNavFreak said:nein51 said:But it probably is how it should work, the exception being Americans living abroad whose vote should certainly count regardless of how long it takes the APO system to deliver it. For everyone else there is no reason we shouldnt simply have voting week with one day being a national holiday so everyone who wants to has the opportunity to vote.LTbear said:That's literally never how it has worked.chriscbear said:
You should have votes counted by election night
There is really no reason we need to count votes for a week or two or three or however long. FFS this is 2020, I can order a package from Amazon and have it to my house, usually the same day if not the next, there is no reason we cant find a way to vote that doesnt incur 2 hour lines and requires 3 days of counting paper ballots.
And yet Trump was the one blocking the early counting of mail in ballots:
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/522566-trump-campaign-asks-court-to-block-early-vote-counting-in-nevada
Im very much over all of the drama and conspiracy theories.
bear2be2 said:Doc Holliday said:You might be confused. This is what news media is reporting which shows 100%.bear2be2 said:Doc Holliday said:bear2be2 said:Doc Holliday said:Yes they were.Porteroso said:These weren't state-wide votes, they were from heavily blue populated areas. Also they're not 100% anyone.Doc Holliday said:It's statistically impossible that they're 100% for Biden.chriscbear said:
Sounds like a recount will happen in Mich and Wisc but that may not overcome the magic 200,000 and 138,000 ballots found last night , all mail in, something smells. If there legit, so be it, but it smells from here.
100% of these 128K+ votes were for Biden.
Source?
So tweets from hyper-partisan pseudo-journalists?
Are any legitimate news sources corroborating this report?
They've been wrong every step of the way. Either it gets corrected or there's a huge red flag here.
I am confused. I've watched multiple networks on both ends of the political spectrum and heard no mention of this. That would seem odd if this information was verified.
Robert Wilson said:Not a bad recap. Still a ton of balls up in the air.Booray said:
Recapping:
For Joe Biden to become President he must:
(1) Hold Nevada (pretty likely);
(2) Win Michigan and Wisconsin (Pretty likely)
(3) Win Az., Pa., Ga. or N.Car. (less likely individually but even money he gets at least one of the four. Note if it is Penn, he no longer need Nevada)
(4) Withstand the legal challenge to those results (not likely)
My gut says Trump wins NC, GA, PA; my gut says Biden holds Nevada and wins MI and WI. All 6 of those will be very close. Biden may win Nevada by about the population of Lorena (crazy to think about). I think it comes down to AZ which will be very close. Then, we get into the recounts and legal wrangling, and i think we will get into the legal wrangling. God only knows what happens then.
At the end of it, based on what's happened in the House (Dem majority but not super majority) and Senate (likely Republican majority) races, plus the Supreme Court makeup, we are probably looking at stagnated / quagmire government no matter what. I view that as good news.
br53 said:Robert Wilson said:Not a bad recap. Still a ton of balls up in the air.Booray said:
Recapping:
For Joe Biden to become President he must:
(1) Hold Nevada (pretty likely);
(2) Win Michigan and Wisconsin (Pretty likely)
(3) Win Az., Pa., Ga. or N.Car. (less likely individually but even money he gets at least one of the four. Note if it is Penn, he no longer need Nevada)
(4) Withstand the legal challenge to those results (not likely)
My gut says Trump wins NC, GA, PA; my gut says Biden holds Nevada and wins MI and WI. All 6 of those will be very close. Biden may win Nevada by about the population of Lorena (crazy to think about). I think it comes down to AZ which will be very close. Then, we get into the recounts and legal wrangling, and i think we will get into the legal wrangling. God only knows what happens then.
At the end of it, based on what's happened in the House (Dem majority but not super majority) and Senate (likely Republican majority) races, plus the Supreme Court makeup, we are probably looking at stagnated / quagmire government no matter what. I view that as good news.
We all know if there are balls in the air, Kamala will swallow em right up.
Normal or suspicious? Seem kind an odd thing to do. Close down counting for a couple of days.Jack Bauer said:NV will not start recounting votes until Thursday at noonForest Bueller_bf said:Yep, no updates since last night.Mothra said:Hope this is true, but I am not seeing any change in the numbers yet.riflebear said:
No updates in NV either.
But there are certainly more voted to be counted in both states.
It's Nevada.Rawhide said:Normal or suspicious? Seem kind an odd thing to do. Close down counting for a couple of days.Jack Bauer said:NV will not start recounting votes until Thursday at noonForest Bueller_bf said:Yep, no updates since last night.Mothra said:Hope this is true, but I am not seeing any change in the numbers yet.riflebear said:
No updates in NV either.
But there are certainly more voted to be counted in both states.
Good thig we actually vote instead of leaving it up to the polls. Same reason we play football games despite the predictions.Jack Bauer said:
Susan Collins never led in one single poll and has just been reelected to the Senate.
whitetrash said:It's Nevada.Rawhide said:Normal or suspicious? Seem kind an odd thing to do. Close down counting for a couple of days.Jack Bauer said:NV will not start recounting votes until Thursday at noonForest Bueller_bf said:Yep, no updates since last night.Mothra said:Hope this is true, but I am not seeing any change in the numbers yet.riflebear said:
No updates in NV either.
But there are certainly more voted to be counted in both states.
Teams aren't as influenced by the line as voters are by polls. It's a negative talking point that was repeated over and over in tons of races.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:Good thig we actually vote instead of leaving it up to the polls. Same reason we play football games despite the predictions.Jack Bauer said:
Susan Collins never led in one single poll and has just been reelected to the Senate.
Because people exercised their right to vote for 1 of the 2 options you didn't vote for? The moral high road is astounding these days.Brian Ethridge said:I can't believe Galveston went blue, Brooks must to rolling over on his drive across the causeway.whitetrash said:Jefferson, Galveston and Nueces used to be the most reliable midsize blue counties in the state. All went for Trump.Brian Ethridge said:
Biden lost a county in the VALLEY! THE VALLEY!
Galveston County has been blue for decades. Brooks is a buddy of mine and lives there, like I did. There is no moral high road in the comment, just astonishment of the shift there.Porteroso said:Because people exercised their right to vote for 1 of the 2 options you didn't vote for? The moral high road is astounding these days.Brian Ethridge said:I can't believe Galveston went blue, Brooks must to rolling over on his drive across the causeway.whitetrash said:Jefferson, Galveston and Nueces used to be the most reliable midsize blue counties in the state. All went for Trump.Brian Ethridge said:
Biden lost a county in the VALLEY! THE VALLEY!
Being right all the time is just hard work man.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
Pollsters predict the future. Some are better than others. None are always accurate. Remember the predictions of the giant red flood I think our president made along with several posters here?
You seem sensitive.Porteroso said:Because people exercised their right to vote for 1 of the 2 options you didn't vote for? The moral high road is astounding these days.Brian Ethridge said:I can't believe Galveston went blue, Brooks must to rolling over on his drive across the causeway.whitetrash said:Jefferson, Galveston and Nueces used to be the most reliable midsize blue counties in the state. All went for Trump.Brian Ethridge said:
Biden lost a county in the VALLEY! THE VALLEY!
I wonderATL Bear said:
Why haven't they declared the Alaska Senate seat? What's the hold up?
It's Alaska and the dog hasn't shown up with all the votes as he's stuck in a blizzard?Osodecentx said:I wonderATL Bear said:
Why haven't they declared the Alaska Senate seat? What's the hold up?