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https://texascpac.org/2021/03/02/texan-for-true-conservatives-announces-support-for-texas-independence-referendum/

Texans for True Conservatives PAC announces support for Texas Independence Referendum

On the 185th anniversary of Texas Independence, the Texans for True Conservatives PAC has announced that it will be supporting The Texas Independence Referendum Act (H.B. 1359) filed in the Texas Legislature by Republican Kyle Biedermann from Texas House District 73.

"Texans believe Washington, D.C. is irrevocably broken and corrupt. For too many years, federal overreach into the average Texan's liberty and freedoms have gone unchecked. In recent polling, the evidence is clear that the average Texan has reached the point where the overwhelming majority believe that Texas and Texans would be better served if Texas were to negotiate a 'Brexit-styled' negotiated separation," stated Texans for True Conservatives PAC founder and director, David Thomas Roberts.

H.B. 1359 does not call for the immediate separation from the United States but asks the legislature to place a referendum on the ballot next November for Texans to determine whether Texas should once again become an independent Republic.

"This is just the first step in a long process to achieve a new Republic of Texas. Even those legislators who may disagree with separation should not cloud their judgment whether Texans have the inalienable and God-given right to self-determination," added Roberts.

On the question of whether Texas could survive as an independent nation, Texas's GDP is larger than Russia, Canada, Korea, Mexico, Spain, and Australia and would rank as the 10th largest in the world using 2019 GDP data.

Asked about the legal question of a negotiated separation, Roberts said, "Texas independence is not a legal question; it's a political question. We've seen how political forces have changed the global landscape, sometimes seemingly overnight. From the fall of the Berlin wall to recent successful Brexit question in Great Britain."

"Texans feel disenfranchised. A final straw for many Texans occurred when Texas' electoral college votes were effectively canceled out by other states' highly questionable voter integrity processes. Additional disappointment in the Supreme Court ruling claiming Texas has 'no standing' in that cancellation of their electoral college votes have incensed many. To add insult, Texans are staring at funding financially irresponsible broken Democratic cities and states under the guise of Covid-19 relief with their hard-earned tax dollars. Texans have simply had enough of D.C. and the federal behemoth," added Roberts.

Our PAC will be massing the support of Texas legislators during this session. The PAC has a conservative pledge that certain candidates and legislators have taken and ultimately determines the gravity of support for (or against) current legislators. We fully expect our legislators who have taken the Conservative Pledge to fulfill their commitment to the ultimate resolution to Texas sovereignty by signing on and voting for H.B. 1359 and to sponsor a companion bill in the Texas Senate."

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There's no basis for the U.S. government to even start to negotiate or discuss with Texas its withdrawal from the Union. It's well established the Union is indivisible. HB 1359 will die in committee.

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whiterock said:

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Booray said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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https://texascpac.org/2021/03/02/texan-for-true-conservatives-announces-support-for-texas-independence-referendum/

Texans for True Conservatives PAC announces support for Texas Independence Referendum

On the 185th anniversary of Texas Independence, the Texans for True Conservatives PAC has announced that it will be supporting The Texas Independence Referendum Act (H.B. 1359) filed in the Texas Legislature by Republican Kyle Biedermann from Texas House District 73.

"Texans believe Washington, D.C. is irrevocably broken and corrupt. For too many years, federal overreach into the average Texan's liberty and freedoms have gone unchecked. In recent polling, the evidence is clear that the average Texan has reached the point where the overwhelming majority believe that Texas and Texans would be better served if Texas were to negotiate a 'Brexit-styled' negotiated separation," stated Texans for True Conservatives PAC founder and director, David Thomas Roberts.

H.B. 1359 does not call for the immediate separation from the United States but asks the legislature to place a referendum on the ballot next November for Texans to determine whether Texas should once again become an independent Republic.

"This is just the first step in a long process to achieve a new Republic of Texas. Even those legislators who may disagree with separation should not cloud their judgment whether Texans have the inalienable and God-given right to self-determination," added Roberts.

On the question of whether Texas could survive as an independent nation, Texas's GDP is larger than Russia, Canada, Korea, Mexico, Spain, and Australia and would rank as the 10th largest in the world using 2019 GDP data.

Asked about the legal question of a negotiated separation, Roberts said, "Texas independence is not a legal question; it's a political question. We've seen how political forces have changed the global landscape, sometimes seemingly overnight. From the fall of the Berlin wall to recent successful Brexit question in Great Britain."

"Texans feel disenfranchised. A final straw for many Texans occurred when Texas' electoral college votes were effectively canceled out by other states' highly questionable voter integrity processes. Additional disappointment in the Supreme Court ruling claiming Texas has 'no standing' in that cancellation of their electoral college votes have incensed many. To add insult, Texans are staring at funding financially irresponsible broken Democratic cities and states under the guise of Covid-19 relief with their hard-earned tax dollars. Texans have simply had enough of D.C. and the federal behemoth," added Roberts.

Our PAC will be massing the support of Texas legislators during this session. The PAC has a conservative pledge that certain candidates and legislators have taken and ultimately determines the gravity of support for (or against) current legislators. We fully expect our legislators who have taken the Conservative Pledge to fulfill their commitment to the ultimate resolution to Texas sovereignty by signing on and voting for H.B. 1359 and to sponsor a companion bill in the Texas Senate."

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There's no basis for the U.S. government to even start to negotiate or discuss with Texas its withdrawal from the Union. It's well established the Union is indivisible. HB 1359 will die in committee.

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The purpose of HB 1359 is to open a discussion within the state about ALL the potential barriers to succession in the event it should ever be seen as an option.

Thanks for listing one of the potential barriers. It sounds like you're onboard.

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We need the Texas legislature to authorize us to begin a discussion??

I thought the First Amendment allowed us to discuss ideas, even colossally stupid ideas like this one.

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Well, Critical Race Theory is a particularly stupid idea as well, and it's all the rage in polite society. If the left can have it's stupid ideas, why can't everybody else indulge in their own ideas? This particular stupid idea has the benefit of harming literally no one, unlike CRT which is pure poison.

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Booray said:

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whiterock said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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https://texascpac.org/2021/03/02/texan-for-true-conservatives-announces-support-for-texas-independence-referendum/

Texans for True Conservatives PAC announces support for Texas Independence Referendum

On the 185th anniversary of Texas Independence, the Texans for True Conservatives PAC has announced that it will be supporting The Texas Independence Referendum Act (H.B. 1359) filed in the Texas Legislature by Republican Kyle Biedermann from Texas House District 73.

"Texans believe Washington, D.C. is irrevocably broken and corrupt. For too many years, federal overreach into the average Texan's liberty and freedoms have gone unchecked. In recent polling, the evidence is clear that the average Texan has reached the point where the overwhelming majority believe that Texas and Texans would be better served if Texas were to negotiate a 'Brexit-styled' negotiated separation," stated Texans for True Conservatives PAC founder and director, David Thomas Roberts.

H.B. 1359 does not call for the immediate separation from the United States but asks the legislature to place a referendum on the ballot next November for Texans to determine whether Texas should once again become an independent Republic.

"This is just the first step in a long process to achieve a new Republic of Texas. Even those legislators who may disagree with separation should not cloud their judgment whether Texans have the inalienable and God-given right to self-determination," added Roberts.

On the question of whether Texas could survive as an independent nation, Texas's GDP is larger than Russia, Canada, Korea, Mexico, Spain, and Australia and would rank as the 10th largest in the world using 2019 GDP data.

Asked about the legal question of a negotiated separation, Roberts said, "Texas independence is not a legal question; it's a political question. We've seen how political forces have changed the global landscape, sometimes seemingly overnight. From the fall of the Berlin wall to recent successful Brexit question in Great Britain."

"Texans feel disenfranchised. A final straw for many Texans occurred when Texas' electoral college votes were effectively canceled out by other states' highly questionable voter integrity processes. Additional disappointment in the Supreme Court ruling claiming Texas has 'no standing' in that cancellation of their electoral college votes have incensed many. To add insult, Texans are staring at funding financially irresponsible broken Democratic cities and states under the guise of Covid-19 relief with their hard-earned tax dollars. Texans have simply had enough of D.C. and the federal behemoth," added Roberts.

Our PAC will be massing the support of Texas legislators during this session. The PAC has a conservative pledge that certain candidates and legislators have taken and ultimately determines the gravity of support for (or against) current legislators. We fully expect our legislators who have taken the Conservative Pledge to fulfill their commitment to the ultimate resolution to Texas sovereignty by signing on and voting for H.B. 1359 and to sponsor a companion bill in the Texas Senate."

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There's no basis for the U.S. government to even start to negotiate or discuss with Texas its withdrawal from the Union. It's well established the Union is indivisible. HB 1359 will die in committee.

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The purpose of HB 1359 is to open a discussion within the state about ALL the potential barriers to succession in the event it should ever be seen as an option.

Thanks for listing one of the potential barriers. It sounds like you're onboard.

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We need the Texas legislature to authorize us to begin a discussion??

I thought the First Amendment allowed us to discuss ideas, even colossally stupid ideas like this one.

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Well, Critical Race Theory is a particularly stupid idea as well, and it's all the rage in polite society. If the left can have it's stupid ideas, why can't everybody else indulge in their own ideas? This particular stupid idea has the benefit of harming literally no one, unlike CRT which is pure poison.

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The Texas Legislature is not considering a bill to open discussion on CRT.

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Texasjeremy said:

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https://texascpac.org/2021/03/02/texan-for-true-conservatives-announces-support-for-texas-independence-referendum/

Texans for True Conservatives PAC announces support for Texas Independence Referendum

On the 185th anniversary of Texas Independence, the Texans for True Conservatives PAC has announced that it will be supporting The Texas Independence Referendum Act (H.B. 1359) filed in the Texas Legislature by Republican Kyle Biedermann from Texas House District 73.

"Texans believe Washington, D.C. is irrevocably broken and corrupt. For too many years, federal overreach into the average Texan's liberty and freedoms have gone unchecked. In recent polling, the evidence is clear that the average Texan has reached the point where the overwhelming majority believe that Texas and Texans would be better served if Texas were to negotiate a 'Brexit-styled' negotiated separation," stated Texans for True Conservatives PAC founder and director, David Thomas Roberts.

H.B. 1359 does not call for the immediate separation from the United States but asks the legislature to place a referendum on the ballot next November for Texans to determine whether Texas should once again become an independent Republic.

"This is just the first step in a long process to achieve a new Republic of Texas. Even those legislators who may disagree with separation should not cloud their judgment whether Texans have the inalienable and God-given right to self-determination," added Roberts.

On the question of whether Texas could survive as an independent nation, Texas's GDP is larger than Russia, Canada, Korea, Mexico, Spain, and Australia and would rank as the 10th largest in the world using 2019 GDP data.

Asked about the legal question of a negotiated separation, Roberts said, "Texas independence is not a legal question; it's a political question. We've seen how political forces have changed the global landscape, sometimes seemingly overnight. From the fall of the Berlin wall to recent successful Brexit question in Great Britain."

"Texans feel disenfranchised. A final straw for many Texans occurred when Texas' electoral college votes were effectively canceled out by other states' highly questionable voter integrity processes. Additional disappointment in the Supreme Court ruling claiming Texas has 'no standing' in that cancellation of their electoral college votes have incensed many. To add insult, Texans are staring at funding financially irresponsible broken Democratic cities and states under the guise of Covid-19 relief with their hard-earned tax dollars. Texans have simply had enough of D.C. and the federal behemoth," added Roberts.

Our PAC will be massing the support of Texas legislators during this session. The PAC has a conservative pledge that certain candidates and legislators have taken and ultimately determines the gravity of support for (or against) current legislators. We fully expect our legislators who have taken the Conservative Pledge to fulfill their commitment to the ultimate resolution to Texas sovereignty by signing on and voting for H.B. 1359 and to sponsor a companion bill in the Texas Senate."

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There's no basis for the U.S. government to even start to negotiate or discuss with Texas its withdrawal from the Union. It's well established the Union is indivisible. HB 1359 will die in committee.

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The purpose of HB 1359 is to open a discussion within the state about ALL the potential barriers to succession in the event it should ever be seen as an option.

Thanks for listing one of the potential barriers. It sounds like you're onboard.

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We need the Texas legislature to authorize us to begin a discussion??

I thought the First Amendment allowed us to discuss ideas, even colossally stupid ideas like this one.

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Well, Critical Race Theory is a particularly stupid idea as well, and it's all the rage in polite society. If the left can have it's stupid ideas, why can't everybody else indulge in their own ideas? This particular stupid idea has the benefit of harming literally no one, unlike CRT which is pure poison.

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The Texas Legislature is not considering a bill to open discussion on CRT.

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Booray said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Texasjeremy said:

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https://texascpac.org/2021/03/02/texan-for-true-conservatives-announces-support-for-texas-independence-referendum/

Texans for True Conservatives PAC announces support for Texas Independence Referendum

On the 185th anniversary of Texas Independence, the Texans for True Conservatives PAC has announced that it will be supporting The Texas Independence Referendum Act (H.B. 1359) filed in the Texas Legislature by Republican Kyle Biedermann from Texas House District 73.

"Texans believe Washington, D.C. is irrevocably broken and corrupt. For too many years, federal overreach into the average Texan's liberty and freedoms have gone unchecked. In recent polling, the evidence is clear that the average Texan has reached the point where the overwhelming majority believe that Texas and Texans would be better served if Texas were to negotiate a 'Brexit-styled' negotiated separation," stated Texans for True Conservatives PAC founder and director, David Thomas Roberts.

H.B. 1359 does not call for the immediate separation from the United States but asks the legislature to place a referendum on the ballot next November for Texans to determine whether Texas should once again become an independent Republic.

"This is just the first step in a long process to achieve a new Republic of Texas. Even those legislators who may disagree with separation should not cloud their judgment whether Texans have the inalienable and God-given right to self-determination," added Roberts.

On the question of whether Texas could survive as an independent nation, Texas's GDP is larger than Russia, Canada, Korea, Mexico, Spain, and Australia and would rank as the 10th largest in the world using 2019 GDP data.

Asked about the legal question of a negotiated separation, Roberts said, "Texas independence is not a legal question; it's a political question. We've seen how political forces have changed the global landscape, sometimes seemingly overnight. From the fall of the Berlin wall to recent successful Brexit question in Great Britain."

"Texans feel disenfranchised. A final straw for many Texans occurred when Texas' electoral college votes were effectively canceled out by other states' highly questionable voter integrity processes. Additional disappointment in the Supreme Court ruling claiming Texas has 'no standing' in that cancellation of their electoral college votes have incensed many. To add insult, Texans are staring at funding financially irresponsible broken Democratic cities and states under the guise of Covid-19 relief with their hard-earned tax dollars. Texans have simply had enough of D.C. and the federal behemoth," added Roberts.

Our PAC will be massing the support of Texas legislators during this session. The PAC has a conservative pledge that certain candidates and legislators have taken and ultimately determines the gravity of support for (or against) current legislators. We fully expect our legislators who have taken the Conservative Pledge to fulfill their commitment to the ultimate resolution to Texas sovereignty by signing on and voting for H.B. 1359 and to sponsor a companion bill in the Texas Senate."

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There's no basis for the U.S. government to even start to negotiate or discuss with Texas its withdrawal from the Union. It's well established the Union is indivisible. HB 1359 will die in committee.

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The purpose of HB 1359 is to open a discussion within the state about ALL the potential barriers to succession in the event it should ever be seen as an option.

Thanks for listing one of the potential barriers. It sounds like you're onboard.

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We need the Texas legislature to authorize us to begin a discussion??

I thought the First Amendment allowed us to discuss ideas, even colossally stupid ideas like this one.

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Well, Critical Race Theory is a particularly stupid idea as well, and it's all the rage in polite society. If the left can have it's stupid ideas, why can't everybody else indulge in their own ideas? This particular stupid idea has the benefit of harming literally no one, unlike CRT which is pure poison.

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The Texas Legislature is not considering a bill to open discussion on CRT.

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whiterock said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Texasjeremy said:

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https://texascpac.org/2021/03/02/texan-for-true-conservatives-announces-support-for-texas-independence-referendum/

Texans for True Conservatives PAC announces support for Texas Independence Referendum

On the 185th anniversary of Texas Independence, the Texans for True Conservatives PAC has announced that it will be supporting The Texas Independence Referendum Act (H.B. 1359) filed in the Texas Legislature by Republican Kyle Biedermann from Texas House District 73.

"Texans believe Washington, D.C. is irrevocably broken and corrupt. For too many years, federal overreach into the average Texan's liberty and freedoms have gone unchecked. In recent polling, the evidence is clear that the average Texan has reached the point where the overwhelming majority believe that Texas and Texans would be better served if Texas were to negotiate a 'Brexit-styled' negotiated separation," stated Texans for True Conservatives PAC founder and director, David Thomas Roberts.

H.B. 1359 does not call for the immediate separation from the United States but asks the legislature to place a referendum on the ballot next November for Texans to determine whether Texas should once again become an independent Republic.

"This is just the first step in a long process to achieve a new Republic of Texas. Even those legislators who may disagree with separation should not cloud their judgment whether Texans have the inalienable and God-given right to self-determination," added Roberts.

On the question of whether Texas could survive as an independent nation, Texas's GDP is larger than Russia, Canada, Korea, Mexico, Spain, and Australia and would rank as the 10th largest in the world using 2019 GDP data.

Asked about the legal question of a negotiated separation, Roberts said, "Texas independence is not a legal question; it's a political question. We've seen how political forces have changed the global landscape, sometimes seemingly overnight. From the fall of the Berlin wall to recent successful Brexit question in Great Britain."

"Texans feel disenfranchised. A final straw for many Texans occurred when Texas' electoral college votes were effectively canceled out by other states' highly questionable voter integrity processes. Additional disappointment in the Supreme Court ruling claiming Texas has 'no standing' in that cancellation of their electoral college votes have incensed many. To add insult, Texans are staring at funding financially irresponsible broken Democratic cities and states under the guise of Covid-19 relief with their hard-earned tax dollars. Texans have simply had enough of D.C. and the federal behemoth," added Roberts.

Our PAC will be massing the support of Texas legislators during this session. The PAC has a conservative pledge that certain candidates and legislators have taken and ultimately determines the gravity of support for (or against) current legislators. We fully expect our legislators who have taken the Conservative Pledge to fulfill their commitment to the ultimate resolution to Texas sovereignty by signing on and voting for H.B. 1359 and to sponsor a companion bill in the Texas Senate."

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There's no basis for the U.S. government to even start to negotiate or discuss with Texas its withdrawal from the Union. It's well established the Union is indivisible. HB 1359 will die in committee.

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The purpose of HB 1359 is to open a discussion within the state about ALL the potential barriers to succession in the event it should ever be seen as an option.

Thanks for listing one of the potential barriers. It sounds like you're onboard.

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We need the Texas legislature to authorize us to begin a discussion??

I thought the First Amendment allowed us to discuss ideas, even colossally stupid ideas like this one.

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Well, Critical Race Theory is a particularly stupid idea as well, and it's all the rage in polite society. If the left can have it's stupid ideas, why can't everybody else indulge in their own ideas? This particular stupid idea has the benefit of harming literally no one, unlike CRT which is pure poison.

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The Texas Legislature is not considering a bill to open discussion on CRT.

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not a very good dodge, as far as dodges go....

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Booray said:

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whiterock said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Texasjeremy said:

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https://texascpac.org/2021/03/02/texan-for-true-conservatives-announces-support-for-texas-independence-referendum/

Texans for True Conservatives PAC announces support for Texas Independence Referendum

On the 185th anniversary of Texas Independence, the Texans for True Conservatives PAC has announced that it will be supporting The Texas Independence Referendum Act (H.B. 1359) filed in the Texas Legislature by Republican Kyle Biedermann from Texas House District 73.

"Texans believe Washington, D.C. is irrevocably broken and corrupt. For too many years, federal overreach into the average Texan's liberty and freedoms have gone unchecked. In recent polling, the evidence is clear that the average Texan has reached the point where the overwhelming majority believe that Texas and Texans would be better served if Texas were to negotiate a 'Brexit-styled' negotiated separation," stated Texans for True Conservatives PAC founder and director, David Thomas Roberts.

H.B. 1359 does not call for the immediate separation from the United States but asks the legislature to place a referendum on the ballot next November for Texans to determine whether Texas should once again become an independent Republic.

"This is just the first step in a long process to achieve a new Republic of Texas. Even those legislators who may disagree with separation should not cloud their judgment whether Texans have the inalienable and God-given right to self-determination," added Roberts.

On the question of whether Texas could survive as an independent nation, Texas's GDP is larger than Russia, Canada, Korea, Mexico, Spain, and Australia and would rank as the 10th largest in the world using 2019 GDP data.

Asked about the legal question of a negotiated separation, Roberts said, "Texas independence is not a legal question; it's a political question. We've seen how political forces have changed the global landscape, sometimes seemingly overnight. From the fall of the Berlin wall to recent successful Brexit question in Great Britain."

"Texans feel disenfranchised. A final straw for many Texans occurred when Texas' electoral college votes were effectively canceled out by other states' highly questionable voter integrity processes. Additional disappointment in the Supreme Court ruling claiming Texas has 'no standing' in that cancellation of their electoral college votes have incensed many. To add insult, Texans are staring at funding financially irresponsible broken Democratic cities and states under the guise of Covid-19 relief with their hard-earned tax dollars. Texans have simply had enough of D.C. and the federal behemoth," added Roberts.

Our PAC will be massing the support of Texas legislators during this session. The PAC has a conservative pledge that certain candidates and legislators have taken and ultimately determines the gravity of support for (or against) current legislators. We fully expect our legislators who have taken the Conservative Pledge to fulfill their commitment to the ultimate resolution to Texas sovereignty by signing on and voting for H.B. 1359 and to sponsor a companion bill in the Texas Senate."

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There's no basis for the U.S. government to even start to negotiate or discuss with Texas its withdrawal from the Union. It's well established the Union is indivisible. HB 1359 will die in committee.

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The purpose of HB 1359 is to open a discussion within the state about ALL the potential barriers to succession in the event it should ever be seen as an option.

Thanks for listing one of the potential barriers. It sounds like you're onboard.

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We need the Texas legislature to authorize us to begin a discussion??

I thought the First Amendment allowed us to discuss ideas, even colossally stupid ideas like this one.

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Well, Critical Race Theory is a particularly stupid idea as well, and it's all the rage in polite society. If the left can have it's stupid ideas, why can't everybody else indulge in their own ideas? This particular stupid idea has the benefit of harming literally no one, unlike CRT which is pure poison.

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The Texas Legislature is not considering a bill to open discussion on CRT.

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not a very good dodge, as far as dodges go....

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Its not a dodge. Your position is the dodge.

The point I am responding to is that the purpose of the bill is to allow us to discuss secession's pros and cons. We don't need a bill for that and we don't need a bill to discuss CRT's pros and cons. But apparently there is a bill for the first, but not the second.

Are you for secession? Do you think there is any chance it would happen? Do you believe we need a bill to "open the discussion" about the issue?

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Texasjeremy said:

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https://texascpac.org/2021/03/02/texan-for-true-conservatives-announces-support-for-texas-independence-referendum/

Texans for True Conservatives PAC announces support for Texas Independence Referendum

On the 185th anniversary of Texas Independence, the Texans for True Conservatives PAC has announced that it will be supporting The Texas Independence Referendum Act (H.B. 1359) filed in the Texas Legislature by Republican Kyle Biedermann from Texas House District 73.

"Texans believe Washington, D.C. is irrevocably broken and corrupt. For too many years, federal overreach into the average Texan's liberty and freedoms have gone unchecked. In recent polling, the evidence is clear that the average Texan has reached the point where the overwhelming majority believe that Texas and Texans would be better served if Texas were to negotiate a 'Brexit-styled' negotiated separation," stated Texans for True Conservatives PAC founder and director, David Thomas Roberts.

H.B. 1359 does not call for the immediate separation from the United States but asks the legislature to place a referendum on the ballot next November for Texans to determine whether Texas should once again become an independent Republic.

"This is just the first step in a long process to achieve a new Republic of Texas. Even those legislators who may disagree with separation should not cloud their judgment whether Texans have the inalienable and God-given right to self-determination," added Roberts.

On the question of whether Texas could survive as an independent nation, Texas's GDP is larger than Russia, Canada, Korea, Mexico, Spain, and Australia and would rank as the 10th largest in the world using 2019 GDP data.

Asked about the legal question of a negotiated separation, Roberts said, "Texas independence is not a legal question; it's a political question. We've seen how political forces have changed the global landscape, sometimes seemingly overnight. From the fall of the Berlin wall to recent successful Brexit question in Great Britain."

"Texans feel disenfranchised. A final straw for many Texans occurred when Texas' electoral college votes were effectively canceled out by other states' highly questionable voter integrity processes. Additional disappointment in the Supreme Court ruling claiming Texas has 'no standing' in that cancellation of their electoral college votes have incensed many. To add insult, Texans are staring at funding financially irresponsible broken Democratic cities and states under the guise of Covid-19 relief with their hard-earned tax dollars. Texans have simply had enough of D.C. and the federal behemoth," added Roberts.

Our PAC will be massing the support of Texas legislators during this session. The PAC has a conservative pledge that certain candidates and legislators have taken and ultimately determines the gravity of support for (or against) current legislators. We fully expect our legislators who have taken the Conservative Pledge to fulfill their commitment to the ultimate resolution to Texas sovereignty by signing on and voting for H.B. 1359 and to sponsor a companion bill in the Texas Senate."

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There's no basis for the U.S. government to even start to negotiate or discuss with Texas its withdrawal from the Union. It's well established the Union is indivisible. HB 1359 will die in committee.

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The purpose of HB 1359 is to open a discussion within the state about ALL the potential barriers to succession in the event it should ever be seen as an option.

Thanks for listing one of the potential barriers. It sounds like you're onboard.

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TexasScientist said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Texasjeremy said:

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https://texascpac.org/2021/03/02/texan-for-true-conservatives-announces-support-for-texas-independence-referendum/

Texans for True Conservatives PAC announces support for Texas Independence Referendum

On the 185th anniversary of Texas Independence, the Texans for True Conservatives PAC has announced that it will be supporting The Texas Independence Referendum Act (H.B. 1359) filed in the Texas Legislature by Republican Kyle Biedermann from Texas House District 73.

"Texans believe Washington, D.C. is irrevocably broken and corrupt. For too many years, federal overreach into the average Texan's liberty and freedoms have gone unchecked. In recent polling, the evidence is clear that the average Texan has reached the point where the overwhelming majority believe that Texas and Texans would be better served if Texas were to negotiate a 'Brexit-styled' negotiated separation," stated Texans for True Conservatives PAC founder and director, David Thomas Roberts.

H.B. 1359 does not call for the immediate separation from the United States but asks the legislature to place a referendum on the ballot next November for Texans to determine whether Texas should once again become an independent Republic.

"This is just the first step in a long process to achieve a new Republic of Texas. Even those legislators who may disagree with separation should not cloud their judgment whether Texans have the inalienable and God-given right to self-determination," added Roberts.

On the question of whether Texas could survive as an independent nation, Texas's GDP is larger than Russia, Canada, Korea, Mexico, Spain, and Australia and would rank as the 10th largest in the world using 2019 GDP data.

Asked about the legal question of a negotiated separation, Roberts said, "Texas independence is not a legal question; it's a political question. We've seen how political forces have changed the global landscape, sometimes seemingly overnight. From the fall of the Berlin wall to recent successful Brexit question in Great Britain."

"Texans feel disenfranchised. A final straw for many Texans occurred when Texas' electoral college votes were effectively canceled out by other states' highly questionable voter integrity processes. Additional disappointment in the Supreme Court ruling claiming Texas has 'no standing' in that cancellation of their electoral college votes have incensed many. To add insult, Texans are staring at funding financially irresponsible broken Democratic cities and states under the guise of Covid-19 relief with their hard-earned tax dollars. Texans have simply had enough of D.C. and the federal behemoth," added Roberts.

Our PAC will be massing the support of Texas legislators during this session. The PAC has a conservative pledge that certain candidates and legislators have taken and ultimately determines the gravity of support for (or against) current legislators. We fully expect our legislators who have taken the Conservative Pledge to fulfill their commitment to the ultimate resolution to Texas sovereignty by signing on and voting for H.B. 1359 and to sponsor a companion bill in the Texas Senate."

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There's no basis for the U.S. government to even start to negotiate or discuss with Texas its withdrawal from the Union. It's well established the Union is indivisible. HB 1359 will die in committee.

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The purpose of HB 1359 is to open a discussion within the state about ALL the potential barriers to succession in the event it should ever be seen as an option.

Thanks for listing one of the potential barriers. It sounds like you're onboard.

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It's also requires the submission of a plan. How are you going to get a bill out of committee that doesn't have leadership support or large support for that matter? It won't happen.

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https://texascpac.org/2021/03/02/texan-for-true-conservatives-announces-support-for-texas-independence-referendum/

Texans for True Conservatives PAC announces support for Texas Independence Referendum

On the 185th anniversary of Texas Independence, the Texans for True Conservatives PAC has announced that it will be supporting The Texas Independence Referendum Act (H.B. 1359) filed in the Texas Legislature by Republican Kyle Biedermann from Texas House District 73.

"Texans believe Washington, D.C. is irrevocably broken and corrupt. For too many years, federal overreach into the average Texan's liberty and freedoms have gone unchecked. In recent polling, the evidence is clear that the average Texan has reached the point where the overwhelming majority believe that Texas and Texans would be better served if Texas were to negotiate a 'Brexit-styled' negotiated separation," stated Texans for True Conservatives PAC founder and director, David Thomas Roberts.

H.B. 1359 does not call for the immediate separation from the United States but asks the legislature to place a referendum on the ballot next November for Texans to determine whether Texas should once again become an independent Republic.

"This is just the first step in a long process to achieve a new Republic of Texas. Even those legislators who may disagree with separation should not cloud their judgment whether Texans have the inalienable and God-given right to self-determination," added Roberts.

On the question of whether Texas could survive as an independent nation, Texas's GDP is larger than Russia, Canada, Korea, Mexico, Spain, and Australia and would rank as the 10th largest in the world using 2019 GDP data.

Asked about the legal question of a negotiated separation, Roberts said, "Texas independence is not a legal question; it's a political question. We've seen how political forces have changed the global landscape, sometimes seemingly overnight. From the fall of the Berlin wall to recent successful Brexit question in Great Britain."

"Texans feel disenfranchised. A final straw for many Texans occurred when Texas' electoral college votes were effectively canceled out by other states' highly questionable voter integrity processes. Additional disappointment in the Supreme Court ruling claiming Texas has 'no standing' in that cancellation of their electoral college votes have incensed many. To add insult, Texans are staring at funding financially irresponsible broken Democratic cities and states under the guise of Covid-19 relief with their hard-earned tax dollars. Texans have simply had enough of D.C. and the federal behemoth," added Roberts.

Our PAC will be massing the support of Texas legislators during this session. The PAC has a conservative pledge that certain candidates and legislators have taken and ultimately determines the gravity of support for (or against) current legislators. We fully expect our legislators who have taken the Conservative Pledge to fulfill their commitment to the ultimate resolution to Texas sovereignty by signing on and voting for H.B. 1359 and to sponsor a companion bill in the Texas Senate."

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There's no basis for the U.S. government to even start to negotiate or discuss with Texas its withdrawal from the Union. It's well established the Union is indivisible. HB 1359 will die in committee.

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The purpose of HB 1359 is to open a discussion within the state about ALL the potential barriers to succession in the event it should ever be seen as an option.

Thanks for listing one of the potential barriers. It sounds like you're onboard.

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We need the Texas legislature to authorize us to begin a discussion??

I thought the First Amendment allowed us to discuss ideas, even colossally stupid ideas like this one.

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Well, Critical Race Theory is a particularly stupid idea as well, and it's all the rage in polite society. If the left can have it's stupid ideas, why can't everybody else indulge in their own ideas? This particular stupid idea has the benefit of harming literally no one, unlike CRT which is pure poison.

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The Texas Legislature is not considering a bill to open discussion on CRT.

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not a very good dodge, as far as dodges go....

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Its not a dodge. Your position is the dodge.

The point I am responding to is that the purpose of the bill is to allow us to discuss secession's pros and cons. We don't need a bill for that and we don't need a bill to discuss CRT's pros and cons. But apparently there is a bill for the first, but not the second.

Are you for secession? Do you think there is any chance it would happen? Do you believe we need a bill to "open the discussion" about the issue?

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My wife would love to jump into the decision of building a new home tomorrow. Im fine where we are at. Now, if we had the answers to property cost, building cost, taxes, utilities access, selling cost of our current home, time to sell, time to build, temp housing if needed and at least 2-3 new questions opened up by the answers to each of those questions above, it might cause her to tap the brakes. On the other hand, it may convince me it's a doable project that I may love when the sheet rock dust settles.

Are you always in favor of keeping people in the dark?

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Booray said:

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whiterock said:

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Booray said:

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whiterock said:

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https://texascpac.org/2021/03/02/texan-for-true-conservatives-announces-support-for-texas-independence-referendum/

Texans for True Conservatives PAC announces support for Texas Independence Referendum

On the 185th anniversary of Texas Independence, the Texans for True Conservatives PAC has announced that it will be supporting The Texas Independence Referendum Act (H.B. 1359) filed in the Texas Legislature by Republican Kyle Biedermann from Texas House District 73.

"Texans believe Washington, D.C. is irrevocably broken and corrupt. For too many years, federal overreach into the average Texan's liberty and freedoms have gone unchecked. In recent polling, the evidence is clear that the average Texan has reached the point where the overwhelming majority believe that Texas and Texans would be better served if Texas were to negotiate a 'Brexit-styled' negotiated separation," stated Texans for True Conservatives PAC founder and director, David Thomas Roberts.

H.B. 1359 does not call for the immediate separation from the United States but asks the legislature to place a referendum on the ballot next November for Texans to determine whether Texas should once again become an independent Republic.

"This is just the first step in a long process to achieve a new Republic of Texas. Even those legislators who may disagree with separation should not cloud their judgment whether Texans have the inalienable and God-given right to self-determination," added Roberts.

On the question of whether Texas could survive as an independent nation, Texas's GDP is larger than Russia, Canada, Korea, Mexico, Spain, and Australia and would rank as the 10th largest in the world using 2019 GDP data.

Asked about the legal question of a negotiated separation, Roberts said, "Texas independence is not a legal question; it's a political question. We've seen how political forces have changed the global landscape, sometimes seemingly overnight. From the fall of the Berlin wall to recent successful Brexit question in Great Britain."

"Texans feel disenfranchised. A final straw for many Texans occurred when Texas' electoral college votes were effectively canceled out by other states' highly questionable voter integrity processes. Additional disappointment in the Supreme Court ruling claiming Texas has 'no standing' in that cancellation of their electoral college votes have incensed many. To add insult, Texans are staring at funding financially irresponsible broken Democratic cities and states under the guise of Covid-19 relief with their hard-earned tax dollars. Texans have simply had enough of D.C. and the federal behemoth," added Roberts.

Our PAC will be massing the support of Texas legislators during this session. The PAC has a conservative pledge that certain candidates and legislators have taken and ultimately determines the gravity of support for (or against) current legislators. We fully expect our legislators who have taken the Conservative Pledge to fulfill their commitment to the ultimate resolution to Texas sovereignty by signing on and voting for H.B. 1359 and to sponsor a companion bill in the Texas Senate."

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There's no basis for the U.S. government to even start to negotiate or discuss with Texas its withdrawal from the Union. It's well established the Union is indivisible. HB 1359 will die in committee.

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The purpose of HB 1359 is to open a discussion within the state about ALL the potential barriers to succession in the event it should ever be seen as an option.

Thanks for listing one of the potential barriers. It sounds like you're onboard.

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We need the Texas legislature to authorize us to begin a discussion??

I thought the First Amendment allowed us to discuss ideas, even colossally stupid ideas like this one.

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Well, Critical Race Theory is a particularly stupid idea as well, and it's all the rage in polite society. If the left can have it's stupid ideas, why can't everybody else indulge in their own ideas? This particular stupid idea has the benefit of harming literally no one, unlike CRT which is pure poison.

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The Texas Legislature is not considering a bill to open discussion on CRT.

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not a very good dodge, as far as dodges go....

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Its not a dodge. Your position is the dodge.

The point I am responding to is that the purpose of the bill is to allow us to discuss secession's pros and cons. We don't need a bill for that and we don't need a bill to discuss CRT's pros and cons. But apparently there is a bill for the first, but not the second.

Are you for secession? Do you think there is any chance it would happen? Do you believe we need a bill to "open the discussion" about the issue?

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My wife would love to jump into the decision of building a new home tomorrow. Im fine where we are at. Now, if we had the answers to property cost, building cost, taxes, utilities access, selling cost of our current home, time to sell, time to build, temp housing if needed and at least 2-3 new questions opened up by the answers to each of those questions above, it might cause her to tap the brakes. On the other hand, it may convince me it's a doable project that I may love when the sheet rock dust settles.

Are you always in favor of keeping people in the dark?

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Do you need a state law to make this decision? Would you prevent people from making such a decision without the state's permission.

Do you like the taste of boot leather?

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https://texascpac.org/2021/03/02/texan-for-true-conservatives-announces-support-for-texas-independence-referendum/

Texans for True Conservatives PAC announces support for Texas Independence Referendum

On the 185th anniversary of Texas Independence, the Texans for True Conservatives PAC has announced that it will be supporting The Texas Independence Referendum Act (H.B. 1359) filed in the Texas Legislature by Republican Kyle Biedermann from Texas House District 73.

"Texans believe Washington, D.C. is irrevocably broken and corrupt. For too many years, federal overreach into the average Texan's liberty and freedoms have gone unchecked. In recent polling, the evidence is clear that the average Texan has reached the point where the overwhelming majority believe that Texas and Texans would be better served if Texas were to negotiate a 'Brexit-styled' negotiated separation," stated Texans for True Conservatives PAC founder and director, David Thomas Roberts.

H.B. 1359 does not call for the immediate separation from the United States but asks the legislature to place a referendum on the ballot next November for Texans to determine whether Texas should once again become an independent Republic.

"This is just the first step in a long process to achieve a new Republic of Texas. Even those legislators who may disagree with separation should not cloud their judgment whether Texans have the inalienable and God-given right to self-determination," added Roberts.

On the question of whether Texas could survive as an independent nation, Texas's GDP is larger than Russia, Canada, Korea, Mexico, Spain, and Australia and would rank as the 10th largest in the world using 2019 GDP data.

Asked about the legal question of a negotiated separation, Roberts said, "Texas independence is not a legal question; it's a political question. We've seen how political forces have changed the global landscape, sometimes seemingly overnight. From the fall of the Berlin wall to recent successful Brexit question in Great Britain."

"Texans feel disenfranchised. A final straw for many Texans occurred when Texas' electoral college votes were effectively canceled out by other states' highly questionable voter integrity processes. Additional disappointment in the Supreme Court ruling claiming Texas has 'no standing' in that cancellation of their electoral college votes have incensed many. To add insult, Texans are staring at funding financially irresponsible broken Democratic cities and states under the guise of Covid-19 relief with their hard-earned tax dollars. Texans have simply had enough of D.C. and the federal behemoth," added Roberts.

Our PAC will be massing the support of Texas legislators during this session. The PAC has a conservative pledge that certain candidates and legislators have taken and ultimately determines the gravity of support for (or against) current legislators. We fully expect our legislators who have taken the Conservative Pledge to fulfill their commitment to the ultimate resolution to Texas sovereignty by signing on and voting for H.B. 1359 and to sponsor a companion bill in the Texas Senate."

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There's no basis for the U.S. government to even start to negotiate or discuss with Texas its withdrawal from the Union. It's well established the Union is indivisible. HB 1359 will die in committee.

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The purpose of HB 1359 is to open a discussion within the state about ALL the potential barriers to succession in the event it should ever be seen as an option.

Thanks for listing one of the potential barriers. It sounds like you're onboard.

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We need the Texas legislature to authorize us to begin a discussion??

I thought the First Amendment allowed us to discuss ideas, even colossally stupid ideas like this one.

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Well, Critical Race Theory is a particularly stupid idea as well, and it's all the rage in polite society. If the left can have it's stupid ideas, why can't everybody else indulge in their own ideas? This particular stupid idea has the benefit of harming literally no one, unlike CRT which is pure poison.

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The Texas Legislature is not considering a bill to open discussion on CRT.

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not a very good dodge, as far as dodges go....

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Its not a dodge. Your position is the dodge.

The point I am responding to is that the purpose of the bill is to allow us to discuss secession's pros and cons. We don't need a bill for that and we don't need a bill to discuss CRT's pros and cons. But apparently there is a bill for the first, but not the second.

Are you for secession? Do you think there is any chance it would happen? Do you believe we need a bill to "open the discussion" about the issue?

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My wife would love to jump into the decision of building a new home tomorrow. Im fine where we are at. Now, if we had the answers to property cost, building cost, taxes, utilities access, selling cost of our current home, time to sell, time to build, temp housing if needed and at least 2-3 new questions opened up by the answers to each of those questions above, it might cause her to tap the brakes. On the other hand, it may convince me it's a doable project that I may love when the sheet rock dust settles.

Are you always in favor of keeping people in the dark?

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Booray said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Booray said:

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whiterock said:

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Booray said:

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whiterock said:

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Booray said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Texasjeremy said:

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https://texascpac.org/2021/03/02/texan-for-true-conservatives-announces-support-for-texas-independence-referendum/

Texans for True Conservatives PAC announces support for Texas Independence Referendum

On the 185th anniversary of Texas Independence, the Texans for True Conservatives PAC has announced that it will be supporting The Texas Independence Referendum Act (H.B. 1359) filed in the Texas Legislature by Republican Kyle Biedermann from Texas House District 73.

"Texans believe Washington, D.C. is irrevocably broken and corrupt. For too many years, federal overreach into the average Texan's liberty and freedoms have gone unchecked. In recent polling, the evidence is clear that the average Texan has reached the point where the overwhelming majority believe that Texas and Texans would be better served if Texas were to negotiate a 'Brexit-styled' negotiated separation," stated Texans for True Conservatives PAC founder and director, David Thomas Roberts.

H.B. 1359 does not call for the immediate separation from the United States but asks the legislature to place a referendum on the ballot next November for Texans to determine whether Texas should once again become an independent Republic.

"This is just the first step in a long process to achieve a new Republic of Texas. Even those legislators who may disagree with separation should not cloud their judgment whether Texans have the inalienable and God-given right to self-determination," added Roberts.

On the question of whether Texas could survive as an independent nation, Texas's GDP is larger than Russia, Canada, Korea, Mexico, Spain, and Australia and would rank as the 10th largest in the world using 2019 GDP data.

Asked about the legal question of a negotiated separation, Roberts said, "Texas independence is not a legal question; it's a political question. We've seen how political forces have changed the global landscape, sometimes seemingly overnight. From the fall of the Berlin wall to recent successful Brexit question in Great Britain."

"Texans feel disenfranchised. A final straw for many Texans occurred when Texas' electoral college votes were effectively canceled out by other states' highly questionable voter integrity processes. Additional disappointment in the Supreme Court ruling claiming Texas has 'no standing' in that cancellation of their electoral college votes have incensed many. To add insult, Texans are staring at funding financially irresponsible broken Democratic cities and states under the guise of Covid-19 relief with their hard-earned tax dollars. Texans have simply had enough of D.C. and the federal behemoth," added Roberts.

Our PAC will be massing the support of Texas legislators during this session. The PAC has a conservative pledge that certain candidates and legislators have taken and ultimately determines the gravity of support for (or against) current legislators. We fully expect our legislators who have taken the Conservative Pledge to fulfill their commitment to the ultimate resolution to Texas sovereignty by signing on and voting for H.B. 1359 and to sponsor a companion bill in the Texas Senate."

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There's no basis for the U.S. government to even start to negotiate or discuss with Texas its withdrawal from the Union. It's well established the Union is indivisible. HB 1359 will die in committee.

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The purpose of HB 1359 is to open a discussion within the state about ALL the potential barriers to succession in the event it should ever be seen as an option.

Thanks for listing one of the potential barriers. It sounds like you're onboard.

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We need the Texas legislature to authorize us to begin a discussion??

I thought the First Amendment allowed us to discuss ideas, even colossally stupid ideas like this one.

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Well, Critical Race Theory is a particularly stupid idea as well, and it's all the rage in polite society. If the left can have it's stupid ideas, why can't everybody else indulge in their own ideas? This particular stupid idea has the benefit of harming literally no one, unlike CRT which is pure poison.

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The Texas Legislature is not considering a bill to open discussion on CRT.

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not a very good dodge, as far as dodges go....

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Its not a dodge. Your position is the dodge.

The point I am responding to is that the purpose of the bill is to allow us to discuss secession's pros and cons. We don't need a bill for that and we don't need a bill to discuss CRT's pros and cons. But apparently there is a bill for the first, but not the second.

Are you for secession? Do you think there is any chance it would happen? Do you believe we need a bill to "open the discussion" about the issue?

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My wife would love to jump into the decision of building a new home tomorrow. Im fine where we are at. Now, if we had the answers to property cost, building cost, taxes, utilities access, selling cost of our current home, time to sell, time to build, temp housing if needed and at least 2-3 new questions opened up by the answers to each of those questions above, it might cause her to tap the brakes. On the other hand, it may convince me it's a doable project that I may love when the sheet rock dust settles.

Are you always in favor of keeping people in the dark?

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I recognize that I can't afford a $10,000,000.00 home under any circumstance, so I don't waste my time investigating something that will never happen.

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Booray said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Booray said:

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whiterock said:

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Booray said:

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whiterock said:

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Booray said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Texasjeremy said:

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https://texascpac.org/2021/03/02/texan-for-true-conservatives-announces-support-for-texas-independence-referendum/

Texans for True Conservatives PAC announces support for Texas Independence Referendum

On the 185th anniversary of Texas Independence, the Texans for True Conservatives PAC has announced that it will be supporting The Texas Independence Referendum Act (H.B. 1359) filed in the Texas Legislature by Republican Kyle Biedermann from Texas House District 73.

"Texans believe Washington, D.C. is irrevocably broken and corrupt. For too many years, federal overreach into the average Texan's liberty and freedoms have gone unchecked. In recent polling, the evidence is clear that the average Texan has reached the point where the overwhelming majority believe that Texas and Texans would be better served if Texas were to negotiate a 'Brexit-styled' negotiated separation," stated Texans for True Conservatives PAC founder and director, David Thomas Roberts.

H.B. 1359 does not call for the immediate separation from the United States but asks the legislature to place a referendum on the ballot next November for Texans to determine whether Texas should once again become an independent Republic.

"This is just the first step in a long process to achieve a new Republic of Texas. Even those legislators who may disagree with separation should not cloud their judgment whether Texans have the inalienable and God-given right to self-determination," added Roberts.

On the question of whether Texas could survive as an independent nation, Texas's GDP is larger than Russia, Canada, Korea, Mexico, Spain, and Australia and would rank as the 10th largest in the world using 2019 GDP data.

Asked about the legal question of a negotiated separation, Roberts said, "Texas independence is not a legal question; it's a political question. We've seen how political forces have changed the global landscape, sometimes seemingly overnight. From the fall of the Berlin wall to recent successful Brexit question in Great Britain."

"Texans feel disenfranchised. A final straw for many Texans occurred when Texas' electoral college votes were effectively canceled out by other states' highly questionable voter integrity processes. Additional disappointment in the Supreme Court ruling claiming Texas has 'no standing' in that cancellation of their electoral college votes have incensed many. To add insult, Texans are staring at funding financially irresponsible broken Democratic cities and states under the guise of Covid-19 relief with their hard-earned tax dollars. Texans have simply had enough of D.C. and the federal behemoth," added Roberts.

Our PAC will be massing the support of Texas legislators during this session. The PAC has a conservative pledge that certain candidates and legislators have taken and ultimately determines the gravity of support for (or against) current legislators. We fully expect our legislators who have taken the Conservative Pledge to fulfill their commitment to the ultimate resolution to Texas sovereignty by signing on and voting for H.B. 1359 and to sponsor a companion bill in the Texas Senate."

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There's no basis for the U.S. government to even start to negotiate or discuss with Texas its withdrawal from the Union. It's well established the Union is indivisible. HB 1359 will die in committee.

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The purpose of HB 1359 is to open a discussion within the state about ALL the potential barriers to succession in the event it should ever be seen as an option.

Thanks for listing one of the potential barriers. It sounds like you're onboard.

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We need the Texas legislature to authorize us to begin a discussion??

I thought the First Amendment allowed us to discuss ideas, even colossally stupid ideas like this one.

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Well, Critical Race Theory is a particularly stupid idea as well, and it's all the rage in polite society. If the left can have it's stupid ideas, why can't everybody else indulge in their own ideas? This particular stupid idea has the benefit of harming literally no one, unlike CRT which is pure poison.

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The Texas Legislature is not considering a bill to open discussion on CRT.

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not a very good dodge, as far as dodges go....

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Its not a dodge. Your position is the dodge.

The point I am responding to is that the purpose of the bill is to allow us to discuss secession's pros and cons. We don't need a bill for that and we don't need a bill to discuss CRT's pros and cons. But apparently there is a bill for the first, but not the second.

Are you for secession? Do you think there is any chance it would happen? Do you believe we need a bill to "open the discussion" about the issue?

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My wife would love to jump into the decision of building a new home tomorrow. Im fine where we are at. Now, if we had the answers to property cost, building cost, taxes, utilities access, selling cost of our current home, time to sell, time to build, temp housing if needed and at least 2-3 new questions opened up by the answers to each of those questions above, it might cause her to tap the brakes. On the other hand, it may convince me it's a doable project that I may love when the sheet rock dust settles.

Are you always in favor of keeping people in the dark?

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I recognize that I can't afford a $10,000,000.00 home under any circumstance, so I don't waste my time investigating something that will never happen.

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quash said:

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Booray said:

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whiterock said:

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Booray said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Texasjeremy said:

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https://texascpac.org/2021/03/02/texan-for-true-conservatives-announces-support-for-texas-independence-referendum/

Texans for True Conservatives PAC announces support for Texas Independence Referendum

On the 185th anniversary of Texas Independence, the Texans for True Conservatives PAC has announced that it will be supporting The Texas Independence Referendum Act (H.B. 1359) filed in the Texas Legislature by Republican Kyle Biedermann from Texas House District 73.

"Texans believe Washington, D.C. is irrevocably broken and corrupt. For too many years, federal overreach into the average Texan's liberty and freedoms have gone unchecked. In recent polling, the evidence is clear that the average Texan has reached the point where the overwhelming majority believe that Texas and Texans would be better served if Texas were to negotiate a 'Brexit-styled' negotiated separation," stated Texans for True Conservatives PAC founder and director, David Thomas Roberts.

H.B. 1359 does not call for the immediate separation from the United States but asks the legislature to place a referendum on the ballot next November for Texans to determine whether Texas should once again become an independent Republic.

"This is just the first step in a long process to achieve a new Republic of Texas. Even those legislators who may disagree with separation should not cloud their judgment whether Texans have the inalienable and God-given right to self-determination," added Roberts.

On the question of whether Texas could survive as an independent nation, Texas's GDP is larger than Russia, Canada, Korea, Mexico, Spain, and Australia and would rank as the 10th largest in the world using 2019 GDP data.

Asked about the legal question of a negotiated separation, Roberts said, "Texas independence is not a legal question; it's a political question. We've seen how political forces have changed the global landscape, sometimes seemingly overnight. From the fall of the Berlin wall to recent successful Brexit question in Great Britain."

"Texans feel disenfranchised. A final straw for many Texans occurred when Texas' electoral college votes were effectively canceled out by other states' highly questionable voter integrity processes. Additional disappointment in the Supreme Court ruling claiming Texas has 'no standing' in that cancellation of their electoral college votes have incensed many. To add insult, Texans are staring at funding financially irresponsible broken Democratic cities and states under the guise of Covid-19 relief with their hard-earned tax dollars. Texans have simply had enough of D.C. and the federal behemoth," added Roberts.

Our PAC will be massing the support of Texas legislators during this session. The PAC has a conservative pledge that certain candidates and legislators have taken and ultimately determines the gravity of support for (or against) current legislators. We fully expect our legislators who have taken the Conservative Pledge to fulfill their commitment to the ultimate resolution to Texas sovereignty by signing on and voting for H.B. 1359 and to sponsor a companion bill in the Texas Senate."

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There's no basis for the U.S. government to even start to negotiate or discuss with Texas its withdrawal from the Union. It's well established the Union is indivisible. HB 1359 will die in committee.

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The purpose of HB 1359 is to open a discussion within the state about ALL the potential barriers to succession in the event it should ever be seen as an option.

Thanks for listing one of the potential barriers. It sounds like you're onboard.

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We need the Texas legislature to authorize us to begin a discussion??

I thought the First Amendment allowed us to discuss ideas, even colossally stupid ideas like this one.

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Well, Critical Race Theory is a particularly stupid idea as well, and it's all the rage in polite society. If the left can have it's stupid ideas, why can't everybody else indulge in their own ideas? This particular stupid idea has the benefit of harming literally no one, unlike CRT which is pure poison.

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The Texas Legislature is not considering a bill to open discussion on CRT.

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Sort of. There's at least one diversity training bill on file.

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Oklahoma will want to come with us.

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You keep dodging the point: why do we need a state law to have the discussion?

That's not an analogy, it is a question.

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there are 121 more nations in the world today than there were in 1945. Did any of those 121 have the attitude,"this is too hard"?

Can you point to a time in world history when the number of nations remained static?

Should the people in Puerto Rico give up all hope of statehood?

I understand there are people that have zero interest in Texas seceding. I'm not big on the idea but, I'm not scared of the conversation or a detailed look at what it would take.

If it is doable I'd like to know.

If it's not doable, I'd like to know.

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We've been "programmed" for years to not dare consider seceding.

It's just like everything else in our country...............we take the easy way out and are told to not dare think of looking deep, deep into the pros and cons of anything that takes away $$$$$ from the country hog trough.

The wussification of our country continues unabated because the hogs in DC don't want to go on a diet or try harder to live within their means. They are used to making decisions that are not in Texas' best interest and our Texas leadership by and large does not have the nads to stand up to northern aggression which has been stripping away $$$ to keep afloat grossly managed cities/states since the Revolutionary War.

But this goes far beyond frivolous spending and pork.

We can do better. We deserve better. Let's seriously look into considering it.

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You keep dodging the point: why do we need a state law to have the discussion?

That's not an analogy, it is a question.

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Because without knowing all the obstacles, it's tough to have an intelligent conversation.

If it were to happen, there would be, not only known consequences but, unintended consequences. An informed electorate will make informed decisions.

Look at the lack of informed conversation post Snowpocalyps. Very few people knew who had authority or enforcement powers regarding the power grid. A lot of venom was spewed because there was not a lot of information. If there is to be a serious conversation, it should at least be an informed one.

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quash said:

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quash said:

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You keep dodging the point: why do we need a state law to have the discussion?

That's not an analogy, it is a question.

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Because without knowing all the obstacles, it's tough to have an intelligent conversation.

If it were to happen, there would be, not only known consequences but, unintended consequences. An informed electorate will make informed decisions.

Look at the lack of informed conversation post Snowpocalyps. Very few people knew who had authority or enforcement powers regarding the power grid. A lot of venom was spewed because there was not a lot of information. If there is to be a serious conversation, it should at least be an informed one.

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Dude, you don't need the government's permission to find out what the obstacles may be, that comes from the discussions among free people, not the state for crying out loud.

"May it please his Highness, I would like to know whether Jackery or Rockpals makes a better generator."

Can we get a law authorizing discussion of The Brackets, I can't pick without a law...

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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quash said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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quash said:

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You keep dodging the point: why do we need a state law to have the discussion?

That's not an analogy, it is a question.

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Because without knowing all the obstacles, it's tough to have an intelligent conversation.

If it were to happen, there would be, not only known consequences but, unintended consequences. An informed electorate will make informed decisions.

Look at the lack of informed conversation post Snowpocalyps. Very few people knew who had authority or enforcement powers regarding the power grid. A lot of venom was spewed because there was not a lot of information. If there is to be a serious conversation, it should at least be an informed one.

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Dude, you don't need the government's permission to find out what the obstacles may be, that comes from the discussions among free people, not the state for crying out loud.

"May it please his Highness, I would like to know whether Jackery or Rockpals makes a better generator."

Can we get a law authorizing discussion of The Brackets, I can't pick without a law...

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Think of it as similar to freedom of information. That information can lead to an intelligent conversation and not the usual bull session at the donut shop with all the old retired guys.

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quash said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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quash said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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quash said:

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You keep dodging the point: why do we need a state law to have the discussion?

That's not an analogy, it is a question.

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Because without knowing all the obstacles, it's tough to have an intelligent conversation.

If it were to happen, there would be, not only known consequences but, unintended consequences. An informed electorate will make informed decisions.

Look at the lack of informed conversation post Snowpocalyps. Very few people knew who had authority or enforcement powers regarding the power grid. A lot of venom was spewed because there was not a lot of information. If there is to be a serious conversation, it should at least be an informed one.

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Dude, you don't need the government's permission to find out what the obstacles may be, that comes from the discussions among free people, not the state for crying out loud.

"May it please his Highness, I would like to know whether Jackery or Rockpals makes a better generator."

Can we get a law authorizing discussion of The Brackets, I can't pick without a law...

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Think of it as similar to freedom of information. That information can lead to an intelligent conversation and not the usual bull session at the donut shop with all the old retired guys.

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I'm trying to figure out why you need a law to get information. Explain?

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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quash said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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quash said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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quash said:

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You keep dodging the point: why do we need a state law to have the discussion?

That's not an analogy, it is a question.

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Because without knowing all the obstacles, it's tough to have an intelligent conversation.

If it were to happen, there would be, not only known consequences but, unintended consequences. An informed electorate will make informed decisions.

Look at the lack of informed conversation post Snowpocalyps. Very few people knew who had authority or enforcement powers regarding the power grid. A lot of venom was spewed because there was not a lot of information. If there is to be a serious conversation, it should at least be an informed one.

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Dude, you don't need the government's permission to find out what the obstacles may be, that comes from the discussions among free people, not the state for crying out loud.

"May it please his Highness, I would like to know whether Jackery or Rockpals makes a better generator."

Can we get a law authorizing discussion of The Brackets, I can't pick without a law...

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Think of it as similar to freedom of information. That information can lead to an intelligent conversation and not the usual bull session at the donut shop with all the old retired guys.

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I'm trying to figure out why you need a law to get information. Explain?

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I believe there would be roadblocks to getting the information needed. Has your experience with bureaucracy always been smooth sailing?

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Constitution of the United States, Tenth Amendment said:

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"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

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Texas Constitution, Article 1 Section 1 said:

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Texas is a free and independent State, subject only to the Constitution of the United States, and the maintenance of our free institutions and the perpetuity of the Union depend upon the preservation of the right of local self-government, unimpaired to all the States.

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Texas Constitution, Article 1 Section 2 said:

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All political power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority and instituted for their benefit. The faith of the people of Texas stands pledged to the preservation of a republican form of government, and, subject to this limitation only, they have at all times the inalienable right to alter, reform or abolish their government in such manner as they may think expedient.

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Redbrickbear said:

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Libs:

TEXAS has 30,000,000 million people and the 11th largest economy in the world.

But even though it has a larger population than 70 other countries....and is physically larger than 37 others.

It just can' handle being a free and independent nation.

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