MarcelloSwisher said:

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My guess is Alan Bowman

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Forgot about him. Yeah, it probably is him. He had an interview a few days back where he mentioned that he wants to be closer to home. I think he and Shapen are probably about equal talent wise. Bowman had a great freshman season at Texas Tech and then dealt with a lot of injuries and sort of fell off the map

How much eligibility does Bowman have left?

boognish_bear said:

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How much eligibility does Bowman have left?

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One year. Which means we really still need like two or three more quarterbacks

Did you pay attention to the tweet. They don't want someone young who will compete for the starting job. The offensive staff is going to get Aranda fired soon and hence themselves if all of this is true.

Could we possibly have an NIL problem from an angle different than we all think. Perhaps a BMD has invested so much in Shapen, the coaches will be fired if they don't start him?

PartyBear said:

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Could we possibly have an NIL problem from an angle different than we all think. Perhaps a BMD has invested so much in Shapen, the coaches will be fired if they don't start him?

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I honestly just think that the coaches made the gut decision to go with shapen over the known commodity with a known ceiling in Bohannon, the players didn't like it, it backfired, so now we are seeing the sunk cost fallacy much like the Vietnam war where if we keep throwing resources into a lost cause, everything will get better

Any reports of Baylor receiving a transfer portal QB commit soon or anything regards to Baylor’s intentions at the position are inaccurate.

— Colt Barber (@Colt_Barber) January 4, 2023

No Quarterback said:

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PartyBear said:

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Could we possibly have an NIL problem from an angle different than we all think. Perhaps a BMD has invested so much in Shapen, the coaches will be fired if they don't start him?

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I honestly just think that the coaches made the gut decision to go with shapen over the known commodity with a known ceiling in Bohannon, the players didn't like it, it backfired, so now we are seeing the sunk cost fallacy much like the Vietnam war where if we keep throwing resources into a lost cause, everything will get better

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Well, the only problem I see is that GB ended up at USF, a train wreck. Drones, for all his sucking according to the talking heads in the know, ended up P5 at Va Tech. I guess Va Tech doesn't know how to evaluate QBs.

Traushon Ward from FSU is in the portal. This kid is a good RB.


Florida State loses star running back to NCAA Transfer Portal (msn.com)

bear2be2 said:

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Bigkahunaww said:

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Any reports of Baylor receiving a transfer portal QB commit soon or anything regards to Baylor’s intentions at the position are inaccurate.

— Colt Barber (@Colt_Barber) January 4, 2023

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None of these people know what the hell they're talking about. The fact that people pay for information that is consistently wrong is funny to me.

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No no no, their info is all based on reliable sources*
































source: trust me bro

RMF5630 said:

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No Quarterback said:

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PartyBear said:

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Could we possibly have an NIL problem from an angle different than we all think. Perhaps a BMD has invested so much in Shapen, the coaches will be fired if they don't start him?

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I honestly just think that the coaches made the gut decision to go with shapen over the known commodity with a known ceiling in Bohannon, the players didn't like it, it backfired, so now we are seeing the sunk cost fallacy much like the Vietnam war where if we keep throwing resources into a lost cause, everything will get better

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Well, the only problem I see is that GB ended up at USF, a train wreck. Drones, for all his sucking according to the talking heads in the know, ended up P5 at Va Tech. I guess Va Tech doesn't know how to evaluate QBs.

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Bohanon was transferring after spring ball. Drones after the season. There are going to be a lot more opportunities for the guy that transfers earlier. By the time spring ball is over, most programs already have that position (or at least the primary competitors for it) set.

bear2be2 said:

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RMF5630 said:

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No Quarterback said:

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PartyBear said:

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Could we possibly have an NIL problem from an angle different than we all think. Perhaps a BMD has invested so much in Shapen, the coaches will be fired if they don't start him?

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I honestly just think that the coaches made the gut decision to go with shapen over the known commodity with a known ceiling in Bohannon, the players didn't like it, it backfired, so now we are seeing the sunk cost fallacy much like the Vietnam war where if we keep throwing resources into a lost cause, everything will get better

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Well, the only problem I see is that GB ended up at USF, a train wreck. Drones, for all his sucking according to the talking heads in the know, ended up P5 at Va Tech. I guess Va Tech doesn't know how to evaluate QBs.

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Bohanon was transferring after spring ball. Drones after the season. There are going to be a lot more opportunities for the guy that transfers earlier. By the time spring ball is over, most programs already have that position (or at least the primary competitors for it) set.

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No P5 had a slot?

RMF5630 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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RMF5630 said:

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No Quarterback said:

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PartyBear said:

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Could we possibly have an NIL problem from an angle different than we all think. Perhaps a BMD has invested so much in Shapen, the coaches will be fired if they don't start him?

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I honestly just think that the coaches made the gut decision to go with shapen over the known commodity with a known ceiling in Bohannon, the players didn't like it, it backfired, so now we are seeing the sunk cost fallacy much like the Vietnam war where if we keep throwing resources into a lost cause, everything will get better

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Well, the only problem I see is that GB ended up at USF, a train wreck. Drones, for all his sucking according to the talking heads in the know, ended up P5 at Va Tech. I guess Va Tech doesn't know how to evaluate QBs.

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Bohanon was transferring after spring ball. Drones after the season. There are going to be a lot more opportunities for the guy that transfers earlier. By the time spring ball is over, most programs already have that position (or at least the primary competitors for it) set.

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No P5 had a slot?

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Not many. I know Missouri was interested. For whatever reason, he chose USF over them. BYU was rumored to be interested as well.

There weren't many P5's that took quarterback transfers that late, period.

bear2be2 said:

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RMF5630 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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RMF5630 said:

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No Quarterback said:

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PartyBear said:

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Could we possibly have an NIL problem from an angle different than we all think. Perhaps a BMD has invested so much in Shapen, the coaches will be fired if they don't start him?

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I honestly just think that the coaches made the gut decision to go with shapen over the known commodity with a known ceiling in Bohannon, the players didn't like it, it backfired, so now we are seeing the sunk cost fallacy much like the Vietnam war where if we keep throwing resources into a lost cause, everything will get better

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Well, the only problem I see is that GB ended up at USF, a train wreck. Drones, for all his sucking according to the talking heads in the know, ended up P5 at Va Tech. I guess Va Tech doesn't know how to evaluate QBs.

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Bohanon was transferring after spring ball. Drones after the season. There are going to be a lot more opportunities for the guy that transfers earlier. By the time spring ball is over, most programs already have that position (or at least the primary competitors for it) set.

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No P5 had a slot?

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Not many. I know Missouri was interested. For whatever reason, he chose USF over them.

There weren't many P5's that took quarterback transfers that late, period.

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Not a good decision. USF was a nightmare, I live in Central Florida. Since they got rid of Leavitt, they have gone from being ahead of UCF and dictating terms to play, to chasing UCF. Perfect example of no Coach is saving USF. They have to do a lot of internal stuff first.

RMF5630 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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RMF5630 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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RMF5630 said:

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No Quarterback said:

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PartyBear said:

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Could we possibly have an NIL problem from an angle different than we all think. Perhaps a BMD has invested so much in Shapen, the coaches will be fired if they don't start him?

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I honestly just think that the coaches made the gut decision to go with shapen over the known commodity with a known ceiling in Bohannon, the players didn't like it, it backfired, so now we are seeing the sunk cost fallacy much like the Vietnam war where if we keep throwing resources into a lost cause, everything will get better

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Well, the only problem I see is that GB ended up at USF, a train wreck. Drones, for all his sucking according to the talking heads in the know, ended up P5 at Va Tech. I guess Va Tech doesn't know how to evaluate QBs.

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Bohanon was transferring after spring ball. Drones after the season. There are going to be a lot more opportunities for the guy that transfers earlier. By the time spring ball is over, most programs already have that position (or at least the primary competitors for it) set.

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No P5 had a slot?

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Not many. I know Missouri was interested. For whatever reason, he chose USF over them.

There weren't many P5's that took quarterback transfers that late, period.

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Not a good decision. USF was a nightmare, I live in Central Florida. Since they got rid of Leavitt, they have gone from being ahead of UCF and dictating terms to play, to chasing UCF. Perfect example of no Coach is saving USF. They have to do a lot of internal stuff first.

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You don't have to tell me. I watched most of their games this past year. They had a good little running back and a couple of decent receivers, but their line play was atrocious and their defense was worse.

bear2be2 said:

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Bigkahunaww said:

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Any reports of Baylor receiving a transfer portal QB commit soon or anything regards to Baylor’s intentions at the position are inaccurate.

— Colt Barber (@Colt_Barber) January 4, 2023

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None of these people know what the hell they're talking about. The fact that people pay for information that is consistently wrong is funny to me.

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See this is what I think is wrong. Public Affairs office or at least SicEm should do a 1 on 1 interview with Aranda just to let the fans know what's going on.
Other schools know when we offer someone, so there's no secret there. To me it would keep the excitement for the fans. Good lord, after this season fans need some excitement.

🙏 pic.twitter.com/x3dbn76YuY

— Braedyn Locke (@Braedyn_Locke3) January 4, 2023

https://247sports.com/Player/Braedyn-Locke-46093750/

Some more really talented receivers are now available. Would be great is we got one more. We would go from barren to pretty stacked quickly. Wr room and rb room would both fit so much better.

Just missing a qb

Quinton said:

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Some more really talented receivers are now available. Would be great is we got one more. We would go from barren to pretty stacked quickly. Wr room and rb room would both fit so much better.

Just missing a qb

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Maybe we can adapt to some type of QB optional offense like the 49ers

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boognish_bear said:

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Well...this is not what I was hoping for.

Hearing Baylor is very close to a commitment from a transfer portal QB.

They are targeting an experienced guy who will serve as Blake Shapen’s backup rather than a young QB who can realistically compete for the starting job.

— Cameron Stuart (@realcamstuart) January 3, 2023

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Nor I. But it is what I was afraid of. This program has a Blake Shapen problem. If he doesn't improve dramatically next year, we're in big trouble.

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Doesn't this defeat the point of entering the portal. I thought it was about playing time for most kids. We already had people leave that didn't feel like they got a fair chance to play (right or wrong). He needs real competition to push him. His advantage is a 2 yr head start in the system, if Shapen can't beat out a newcomer then that's on him

ImwithBU said:

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bear2be2 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Well...this is not what I was hoping for.

Hearing Baylor is very close to a commitment from a transfer portal QB.

They are targeting an experienced guy who will serve as Blake Shapen’s backup rather than a young QB who can realistically compete for the starting job.

— Cameron Stuart (@realcamstuart) January 3, 2023

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Nor I. But it is what I was afraid of. This program has a Blake Shapen problem. If he doesn't improve dramatically next year, we're in big trouble.

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Doesn't this defeat the point of entering the portal. I thought it was about playing time for most kids. We already had people leave that didn't feel like they got a fair chance to play (right or wrong). He needs real competition to push him. His advantage is a 2 yr head start in the system, if Shapen can't beat out a newcomer then that's on him

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I'm with you, and I'm still holding out hope that we'll bring in a starting caliber transfer. But quarterbacks typically transfer for one of two reasons -- immediate playing time or NIL money. We're can't really offer either of those things currently.

This is one of the reasons I've said from the start that fans need to temper their expectations. We were never going to get a top guy. We were always destined to get a fringe P5 starter or a productive G5 starter with a limited offer list. Let's just hope that guy is good enough to push Shapen in the spring because if we get the same Shapen we had this past season, we can expect a similar disappointing record.

boognish_bear said:

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Well...this is not what I was hoping for.

Hearing Baylor is very close to a commitment from a transfer portal QB.

They are targeting an experienced guy who will serve as Blake Shapen’s backup rather than a young QB who can realistically compete for the starting job.

— Cameron Stuart (@realcamstuart) January 3, 2023

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Sad

Bigkahunaww said:

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🙏 pic.twitter.com/x3dbn76YuY

— Braedyn Locke (@Braedyn_Locke3) January 4, 2023

https://247sports.com/Player/Braedyn-Locke-46093750/

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Hell yes. We need to be on this like ugly on an ape. This was a guy I really wanted us to look at in the 2022 class when we were putting all are eggs in the Novosad basket. Dude was a scoring machine over at Rockwall IIRC

RMF5630 said:

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Traushon Ward from FSU is in the portal. This kid is a good RB.


Florida State loses star running back to NCAA Transfer Portal (msn.com)

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Baylor already picked up Oklahoma State's RB starter, so it's unlikely that another higher end transfer RB would commit to Baylor in this cycle.

Aberzombie1892 said:

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RMF5630 said:

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Traushon Ward from FSU is in the portal. This kid is a good RB.


Florida State loses star running back to NCAA Transfer Portal (msn.com)

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Baylor already picked up Oklahoma State's RB starter, so it's unlikely that another higher end transfer RB would commit to Baylor in this cycle.

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Who do you think is the better back?

RMF5630 said:

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No Quarterback said:

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PartyBear said:

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Could we possibly have an NIL problem from an angle different than we all think. Perhaps a BMD has invested so much in Shapen, the coaches will be fired if they don't start him?

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I honestly just think that the coaches made the gut decision to go with shapen over the known commodity with a known ceiling in Bohannon, the players didn't like it, it backfired, so now we are seeing the sunk cost fallacy much like the Vietnam war where if we keep throwing resources into a lost cause, everything will get better

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Well, the only problem I see is that GB ended up at USF, a train wreck. Drones, for all his sucking according to the talking heads in the know, ended up P5 at Va Tech. I guess Va Tech doesn't know how to evaluate QBs.

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That will not be answered until he plays.

No Quarterback said:

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Bigkahunaww said:

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🙏 pic.twitter.com/x3dbn76YuY

— Braedyn Locke (@Braedyn_Locke3) January 4, 2023

https://247sports.com/Player/Braedyn-Locke-46093750/

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Hell yes. We need to be on this like ugly on an ape. This was a guy I really wanted us to look at in the 2022 class when we were putting all are eggs in the Novosad basket. Dude was a scoring machine over at Rockwall IIRC

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Looks reasonably athletic and throws well on the run. Watching the highlights we may need to pick up some of his offensive line.

blackie said:

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RMF5630 said:

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No Quarterback said:

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PartyBear said:

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Could we possibly have an NIL problem from an angle different than we all think. Perhaps a BMD has invested so much in Shapen, the coaches will be fired if they don't start him?

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I honestly just think that the coaches made the gut decision to go with shapen over the known commodity with a known ceiling in Bohannon, the players didn't like it, it backfired, so now we are seeing the sunk cost fallacy much like the Vietnam war where if we keep throwing resources into a lost cause, everything will get better

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Well, the only problem I see is that GB ended up at USF, a train wreck. Drones, for all his sucking according to the talking heads in the know, ended up P5 at Va Tech. I guess Va Tech doesn't know how to evaluate QBs.

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That will not be answered until he plays.

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Haven't they both played already? Can't look up on phone right now.

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No Quarterback said:

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Bigkahunaww said:

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🙏 pic.twitter.com/x3dbn76YuY

— Braedyn Locke (@Braedyn_Locke3) January 4, 2023

https://247sports.com/Player/Braedyn-Locke-46093750/

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Hell yes. We need to be on this like ugly on an ape. This was a guy I really wanted us to look at in the 2022 class when we were putting all are eggs in the Novosad basket. Dude was a scoring machine over at Rockwall IIRC

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Looks reasonably athletic and throws well on the run. Watching the highlights we may need to pick up some of his offensive line.

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I remember being impressed by his high school highlights. Very accurate arm from what I remember. Mike Leach didn't recruit quarterbacks that sucked, so that's an endorsement

This is starting to feel like the smaller schools are turning into a farm system for the bigger schools...I wonder if bigger schools will start giving less and less scholarships spots to HS kids in favor of "ready to play" seasoned kids they can grab out of the portal.

Former Ball State RB Carson Steele has transferred to UCLA, he announced

Only Bijan Robinson had more missed tackles forced this season pic.twitter.com/tC2cCxmMNm

— PFF College (@PFF_College) January 4, 2023

UCLA has now signed QB Collin Schlee (Kent State) and RB Carson Steele (Ball State)

I am HERE for Chip’s MAC rebrand pic.twitter.com/VsJi2LGLAk

— Thor Nystrom (@thorku) January 4, 2023

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Big_Pumpin said:

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Bigkahunaww said:

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Staff is following this kid.

Good size. Two sport athlete in football, and basketball

Thank you Iowa.

I have entered the Transfer Portal with 4 years of eligibility remaining. pic.twitter.com/0x3eZZITdT

— Carson May (@CarsonMay_3) January 3, 2023

https://247sports.com/player/carson-may-46102478/

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6'5"? Holy smokes. I bet he would have seen Ben Sims

https://n.rivals.com/content/athletes/carson-may-249700?view=pv

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His only offers were Iowa and Old Dominion. Played 2A Oklahoma football. Look, I'm sure this is a really nice kid, but if this is the state our offense is in, we are in for a world of hurt next year

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We have no depth. If he wants to come here great. Coaches get paid at this level to develop players and adapt their system to the player's strengths

ImwithBU said:

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No Quarterback said:

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Big_Pumpin said:

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Bigkahunaww said:

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Staff is following this kid.

Good size. Two sport athlete in football, and basketball

Thank you Iowa.

I have entered the Transfer Portal with 4 years of eligibility remaining. pic.twitter.com/0x3eZZITdT

— Carson May (@CarsonMay_3) January 3, 2023

https://247sports.com/player/carson-may-46102478/

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6'5"? Holy smokes. I bet he would have seen Ben Sims

https://n.rivals.com/content/athletes/carson-may-249700?view=pv

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His only offers were Iowa and Old Dominion. Played 2A Oklahoma football. Look, I'm sure this is a really nice kid, but if this is the state our offense is in, we are in for a world of hurt next year

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We have no depth. If he wants to come here great. Coaches get paid at this level to develop players and adapt their system to the player's strengths

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Coaches get paid to do that, but it doesn't mean that they have shown the ability to do so. We do indeed need depth, so I wouldn't be surprised if we take two or three of these guys. I like this guy more than Alan Bowman. Someone with one year of eligibility doesn't do much for us at this point

No Quarterback said:

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ImwithBU said:

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No Quarterback said:

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Big_Pumpin said:

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Bigkahunaww said:

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Staff is following this kid.

Good size. Two sport athlete in football, and basketball

Thank you Iowa.

I have entered the Transfer Portal with 4 years of eligibility remaining. pic.twitter.com/0x3eZZITdT

— Carson May (@CarsonMay_3) January 3, 2023

https://247sports.com/player/carson-may-46102478/

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6'5"? Holy smokes. I bet he would have seen Ben Sims

https://n.rivals.com/content/athletes/carson-may-249700?view=pv

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His only offers were Iowa and Old Dominion. Played 2A Oklahoma football. Look, I'm sure this is a really nice kid, but if this is the state our offense is in, we are in for a world of hurt next year

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We have no depth. If he wants to come here great. Coaches get paid at this level to develop players and adapt their system to the player's strengths

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Coaches get paid to do that, but it doesn't mean that they have shown the ability to do so. We do indeed need depth, so I wouldn't be surprised if we take two or three of these guys. I like this guy more than Alan Bowman. Someone with one year of eligibility doesn't do much for us at this point

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I think we need both -- one short-termer to provide competition for Shapen in 2023 and one young guy to provide long-term depth.