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Gameday Thread: Baylor Hits Road To Take On No. 16 Iowa State

October 4, 2024
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Baylor (2-3, 0-2) travels to face No. 16 Iowa State (4-0, 1-0) in its sixth game of the 2024 football season. Kickoff is set for 6:30 p.m. CT at Jack Trice Stadium in Ames on Saturday. Click here to read, listen and watch content pertaining to Baylor versus Air Force and more. 

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The Run Down

Baylor Iowa State
Head Coach Dave Aranda Matt Campbell
Team Record 2-3 4-0
Leading Passer Sawyer Robertson, QB
59/98, 787 yards, 6 TDs, 2 INT
Rocco Becht, QB
71/107, 896 yards, 7 TDs, 2 INT
Leading Rushers Bryson Washington, RB
35 carries, 158 yards, 1 TD

Dawson Pendergrass, RB
34 carries, 157 yards, 1 TD

Richard Reese, RB
37 carries, 143 yards, 1 TD

Abu Sama, RB
40 carries, 225 yards, 1 TDs

Jaylon Jackson, RB
33 carries, 188 yards

Carson Hansen, RB
26 carries, 144 yards, 2 TDs

Leading Receivers Josh Cameron, WR
16 rec, 267 yards, 3 TDs

Ashtyn Hawkins, WR
11 rec, 192 yards, 2 TDs

Hal Presley, WR
11 rec, 143 yards, 1 TD

Jaylin Noel, WR
19 rec, 353 yards, 2 TDs

Jayden Higgins, WR
25 rec, 287 yards, 4 TDs

Benjamin Brahmer, TE
5 rec, 96 yards

Defense Matt Jones, LB
44 tackles, 3 TFL, 1 sack

Keaton Thomas, LB
44 tackles, 3 TFL, 1 sack, 1 INT

Devyn Bobby, S
25 tackles, 1.5 TFL, 1 FR
Kooper Ebel, LB
27 tackles, 3 TFL, 1 sack

Beau Freyler, S
27 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 INT

Malik Verdon, S
26 tackles, 2.5 TFL, 1 INT
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Gameday Thread: Baylor Hits Road To Take On No. 16 Iowa State

64,952 Views | 633 Replies | Last: 1 mo ago by PaperBear89
boognish_bear
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BUATX2000 said:

If at this point, someone told me that if we keep Dave, Baylor would be guaranteed a national championship at some point in the next 20 years, I'd still pass.


That would mean somewhere in the next 20 years we've been dropped to D3
BBWCBear
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SEC is the only true product worth watching. I can't hold interest in the other b12… 16, whatever.
BearFan33
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Yogi said:

BearFan33 said:

boognish_bear said:

Stefano DiMera said:

Will y'all stop with this stupid narrative

.He has to win 7 minimum to return.


Do you really think Baylor will fire him if he gets to six wins and a bowl game?


I think a bowl game and dave keeps his job


You mean the Unicorn Bowl?


I think once we are mathematically eliminated from obtaining a bowl, Dave will be fired. Unfortunately it looks like that will be soon
BrainIsLikeAComputer
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https://i.imgur.com/0PTt6RD.png
Thanks Dave!
Quinton
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boognish_bear said:

Bearwhiz said:

boognish_bear said:

dycbaylor02 said:

Dia del DougO said:

I don't know if the team quit. It may be that ISU has just seen everything Baylor does, made adjustments, got matchups and figured it all out.

I don't think the players quit. They just don't quite have a plan that matches the talent they have and can't adjust like their opponents do. They showed a lot of scrap tonight, so I don't fault them for effort. They just still have a ways to go to play four quarters and beat a decent team.


There was some statistic that said our schedule technically gets easier after this ISU game. Dave needs to win 4 games to get out of jail. I don't see that happening



Our 3 conference games so far have been against 3 teams tied (with others) for first place in the conference. The combined record of those 3 teams is 14-1.

I don't know if TT can win at Arizona tonight...but if they do it will be another matchup for us against a team in first place. Winning on the road in Lubbock probably isn't happening.

That would make 4 straight losses. Will the team be able to stay together mentally?

After that it does get more doable. But if our defense can't get several things fixed I don't think it will matter.
So you don't expect to beat what you call good teams?


If you think I am fine with what we've seen this year you are misreading my post.

The post I was responding to mentioned that we would soon start facing less difficult opponents. That's what I was responding to.
The issue is Dave finds ways to lose.. even against absolute scrubs like Houston and KU. Its a very bad bet to believe he can beat anyone right now. The program is soft and the mentality is weak. And yes you are right, even a below average coach would find 6 wins with this schedule. The point makes sense but you're underestimating Dave's issues.
Killing Floor
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I love this for Vandy and I love it for college football. What a great day for the Dores.
Let’s Go!
boognish_bear
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At this point I don't even know what Dave can say to the guys in the locker room after so much losing the last two years.

He might as well just put on a Disney movie and walk off.
bear2be2
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Nice punt, Dave. You ****ing loser.
oldbear69
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Guitarbiscuit said:

Doc Holliday said:

boognish_bear said:

Stefano DiMera said:

Will y'all stop with this stupid narrative

.He has to win 7 minimum to return.


Do you really think Baylor will fire him if he gets to six wins and a bowl game?
Theres no way this team is getting 6 wins

Nope. I don't see us winning any more games. Houston maybe, but Houston has far better coaches than we do.
frogs are horrible but will kick our a$$$..
Killing Floor
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Dave's got the eye of the tiger
Let’s Go!
Yogi
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What would be more costly to Baylor University?

Replacing Dave Aranda or competing at a lower level of college athletics in 15 years.

And that's giving us the benefit of the value of that Waco market.
"Smarter than the Average Bear."
BUGWBBear
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They should play a loop of Carmen soundtrack for the rest of the game…
BearFan33
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Yogi said:

What would be more costly to Baylor University?

Replacing Dave Aranda or competing at a lower level of college athletics in 15 years.

And that's giving us the benefit of the value of that Waco market.


That's the big picture
Mjweye
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Unfortunately?? He should have been gone before this season even started. It was a waste of a year.
BUGWBBear
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Killing Floor said:

Dave's got the eye of the tiger


Tiger cub
BUATX2000
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Someone should explain the concept of seppuku to Dave. Do the honorable thing.
Daveisabovereproach
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Yogi said:

What would be more costly to Baylor University?

Replacing Dave Aranda or competing at a lower level of college athletics in 15 years.

And that's giving us the benefit of the value of that Waco market.


Don't expose our regents brilliant plan. You know they want to join that private school league with Rice, Mary Hardin, Dallas Baptist etc.
oldbear69
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Quinton said:

boognish_bear said:

Bearwhiz said:

boognish_bear said:

dycbaylor02 said:

Dia del DougO said:

I don't know if the team quit. It may be that ISU has just seen everything Baylor does, made adjustments, got matchups and figured it all out.

I don't think the players quit. They just don't quite have a plan that matches the talent they have and can't adjust like their opponents do. They showed a lot of scrap tonight, so I don't fault them for effort. They just still have a ways to go to play four quarters and beat a decent team.


There was some statistic that said our schedule technically gets easier after this ISU game. Dave needs to win 4 games to get out of jail. I don't see that happening



Our 3 conference games so far have been against 3 teams tied (with others) for first place in the conference. The combined record of those 3 teams is 14-1.

I don't know if TT can win at Arizona tonight...but if they do it will be another matchup for us against a team in first place. Winning on the road in Lubbock probably isn't happening.

That would make 4 straight losses. Will the team be able to stay together mentally?

After that it does get more doable. But if our defense can't get several things fixed I don't think it will matter.
So you don't expect to beat what you call good teams?


If you think I am fine with what we've seen this year you are misreading my post.

The post I was responding to mentioned that we would soon start facing less difficult opponents. That's what I was responding to.
The issue is Dave finds ways to lose.. even against absolute scrubs like Houston and KU. Its a very bad bet to believe he can beat anyone right now. The program is soft and the mentality is weak. And yes you are right, even a below average coach would find 6 wins with this schedule. The point makes sense but you're underestimating Dave's issues.
shouldve been fired after colorado game.....nobody could lose that game not even bill beall...
Jacques Strap
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Well I hope they find the money to allow the Bears to field a new winning coach but I'm not counting on it.

If I was a big money donor and they came to me for help it would be a hard pass, all my money would go to Scott Drew.
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Well Lincoln Riley lost to the Golden Gophers so there's that...
BBWCBear
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Just shut the crappy Loser program down.
Yogi
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Mjweye said:

Unfortunately?? He should have been gone before this season even started. It was a waste of a year.


Amen we had new uniforms and the FOC opening. Lots of mojo despite last season.
"Smarter than the Average Bear."
PaperBear89
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Bearsalwayswin said:

i don't get the recruiting y'all keep saying this class is good. can he coach, no but he's recruiting at a high level right now


Recruiting. Identifying talent that can best serve your team needs. Two different things. Mack Brown "recruited" well in his later years at Texas. It got him fired
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BUATX2000 said:

Someone should explain the concept of seppuku to Dave. Do the honorable thing.


If anyone should be doing that, it's Mack. He's the one that gave Dave a massive extension with a large buyout

Dave has Mack by the nutssack and he knows it
bear2be2
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BBWCBear said:

Just shut the crappy Loser program down.
Why would you do that? The program's not the problem. The coach is.

Fire his ass and go find one who's not a total loser.
Big12Fan2024
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Yogi said:

What would be more costly to Baylor University?

Replacing Dave Aranda or competing at a lower level of college athletics in 15 years.

And that's giving us the benefit of the value of that Waco market.

There are a good number of people in leadership who think Baylor has grown too large and would like to downsize. They would not mind that scenario at all.
boognish_bear
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In some thread someone mentioned piss poor attendance at the homecoming game against Oklahoma State would get admin attention.

We are about to find out because they will be lucky to fill that thing half way.
Yogi
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Speaking of the FOC, it is perfectly named for this program.

Every time you see them play, itt, they make you say it!
"Smarter than the Average Bear."
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Bearsalwayswin said:

i don't get the recruiting y'all keep saying this class is good. can he coach, no but he's recruiting at a high level right now


We pay players. That's the explanation. As soon as these guys get more lucrative offers, they gone, and much weeping and gnashing of teeth will ensue
Quinton
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oldbear69 said:

Guitarbiscuit said:

Doc Holliday said:

boognish_bear said:

Stefano DiMera said:

Will y'all stop with this stupid narrative

.He has to win 7 minimum to return.


Do you really think Baylor will fire him if he gets to six wins and a bowl game?
Theres no way this team is getting 6 wins

Nope. I don't see us winning any more games. Houston maybe, but Houston has far better coaches than we do.
frogs are horrible but will kick our a$$$..
Tcu and Houston are not good football teams, but Dave has nearly no shot. Tcu is close to quitting and showed weak effort yesterday but has decent players. Houston barely has an ounce of talent but plays hard and is very well coached.
dycbaylor02
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Quinton said:

oldbear69 said:

Guitarbiscuit said:

Doc Holliday said:

boognish_bear said:

Stefano DiMera said:

Will y'all stop with this stupid narrative

.He has to win 7 minimum to return.


Do you really think Baylor will fire him if he gets to six wins and a bowl game?
Theres no way this team is getting 6 wins

Nope. I don't see us winning any more games. Houston maybe, but Houston has far better coaches than we do.
frogs are horrible but will kick our a$$$..
Tcu and Houston are not good football teams, but Dave has nearly no shot. Tcu is close to quitting and showed weak effort yesterday but has decent players. Houston barely has an ounce of talent but plays hard and is very well coached.



I think Willie will have UH winning atleast 6 if he is given 4 years
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boognish_bear said:

In some thread someone mentioned piss poor attendance at the homecoming game against Oklahoma State would get admin attention.

We are about to find out because they will be lucky to fill that thing half way.

To be perfectly honest, I don't if ANYTHNG gets the attention of this administration. After allowing Aranda back this year, I gave up on them.
57Bear
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Who wrote the long contract with Aranda? Do you trust him to make the next selection?
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Guitarbiscuit said:

boognish_bear said:

In some thread someone mentioned piss poor attendance at the homecoming game against Oklahoma State would get admin attention.

We are about to find out because they will be lucky to fill that thing half way.

To be perfectly honest, I don't if ANYTHNG gets the attention of this administration. After allowing Aranda back this year, I gave up on them.


Have they responded to any of your emails? Ian responded to one of mine when I was a student
Killing Floor
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Should have been fired after Air Force but even if someone wants to make a tragically stupid statement that Air Force was good, that's air quotes around "good for a service academy".
Worst case
Should have been shown the door after Texas State.
Let’s Go!
 
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