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CaliBear00 said:

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It appears that Baylor is serious about getting Lagway, and it's clear what the real intent is. This isn't a football move, it's purely a marketing move.

They know keeping Aranda was a wildly unpopular decision. Getting Lagway to sign on is a face saving move to sell tickets and generate hype, and that's all.

Lagway is unlikely to make the team any better, but at least Baylor would be spared the embarrassment of an empty stadium for the home opener.

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Theoretically, he could be a big difference.

Theoretically, Walker White can also do what he does (they both have cannon arms and tank bodies that are surprisingly fast/nimble).

Pure 'GM' mode: go big on every other position and trust Spav's QB room as is...
Pure 'Owner' mode: bring in the big name to juice excitement

There's no clearly right answer, but one of these feels more Jerry Jones, and one feels more Bob Kraft.

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Bringing in lagway might also convince some donors to give more because shows there actually might be something brewing with this team and it's easier to imagine a clear ROI.

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And some other solid Portal transfers to come to.

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CaliBear00 said:

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It appears that Baylor is serious about getting Lagway, and it's clear what the real intent is. This isn't a football move, it's purely a marketing move.

They know keeping Aranda was a wildly unpopular decision. Getting Lagway to sign on is a face saving move to sell tickets and generate hype, and that's all.

Lagway is unlikely to make the team any better, but at least Baylor would be spared the embarrassment of an empty stadium for the home opener.

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Agree.

It will be as big a mistake as Finn.

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Not that big. Lagway has at least competed against top level competition.

He's not terrible. He's got skills. He has potential to be better, perhaps in a new situation that might be a better fit.

I just don't want it to cost a couple of OL or DL in the process of getting him.

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I have no clue what they are saying on the premium board, but my own speculation is that some donor or group of donors are specifically willing to fit the bill for Lagway separate from the general NIL budget

Stefano DiMera said:

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I don't sports gamble like a lot of you degenerates on here.

What I do do.. is the horses .

Lagway would be like a thoroughbred dropping down in class to a maiden race coming from those SEC defense to Big 12 defenses

I'd always bet on that horse.

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That's exactly right. NIL and the transfer portal has widened the gap between the big 12 and SEC. They are just on a different level. TCU getting bent over a table in the championship game is a prime example of that.

Youre a clown said:

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Dia del DougO said:

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Realitybites said:

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CaliBear00 said:

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It appears that Baylor is serious about getting Lagway, and it's clear what the real intent is. This isn't a football move, it's purely a marketing move.

They know keeping Aranda was a wildly unpopular decision. Getting Lagway to sign on is a face saving move to sell tickets and generate hype, and that's all.

Lagway is unlikely to make the team any better, but at least Baylor would be spared the embarrassment of an empty stadium for the home opener.

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Agree.

It will be as big a mistake as Finn.

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Not that big. Lagway has at least competed against top level competition.

He's not terrible. He's got skills. He has potential to be better, perhaps in a new situation that might be a better fit.

I just don't want it to cost a couple of OL or DL in the process of getting him.

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I have no clue what they are saying on the premium board, but my own speculation is that some donor or group of donors are specifically willing to fit the bill for Lagway separate from the general NIL budget

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That would be cool. But if they were gonna do that I would still rather they pony up to buy the best offensive line possible with that money.

Lagway would be good for public relations, but he's maybe the most over-rated QB recruit in decades.

Dia del DougO said:

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Youre a clown said:

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Dia del DougO said:

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Realitybites said:

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CaliBear00 said:

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It appears that Baylor is serious about getting Lagway, and it's clear what the real intent is. This isn't a football move, it's purely a marketing move.

They know keeping Aranda was a wildly unpopular decision. Getting Lagway to sign on is a face saving move to sell tickets and generate hype, and that's all.

Lagway is unlikely to make the team any better, but at least Baylor would be spared the embarrassment of an empty stadium for the home opener.

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Agree.

It will be as big a mistake as Finn.

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Not that big. Lagway has at least competed against top level competition.

He's not terrible. He's got skills. He has potential to be better, perhaps in a new situation that might be a better fit.

I just don't want it to cost a couple of OL or DL in the process of getting him.

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I have no clue what they are saying on the premium board, but my own speculation is that some donor or group of donors are specifically willing to fit the bill for Lagway separate from the general NIL budget

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That would be cool. But if they were gonna do that I would still rather they pony up to buy the best offensive line possible with that money.

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I agree with you, but I think it's easier to sell the hype around former five star recruit and legacy than it is to sell the idea of using that same amount of money to buy two or three good offensive lineman.

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CaliBear00 said:

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It appears that Baylor is serious about getting Lagway, and it's clear what the real intent is. This isn't a football move, it's purely a marketing move.

They know keeping Aranda was a wildly unpopular decision. Getting Lagway to sign on is a face saving move to sell tickets and generate hype, and that's all.

Lagway is unlikely to make the team any better, but at least Baylor would be spared the embarrassment of an empty stadium for the home opener.

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I disagree that lagway wouldn't make the team better. I will go on record saying that he will at least be a decent quarterback for us IF he can stay healthy, and that's a big if. My fear is that we're going to land him and he's going to get seriously injured by like game three. He's had a lot of injury issues. But in all fairness, he does have a lot of talent, and it isn't every day that Baylor lands a former five star recruit

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He wasn't a decent QB for UF, a team that had much more talent around him than BU will have next year.

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Florida started out 2024 (Lagway's freshman year) in a rut. Lagway became the starter and led the team to a 6 - 1 record in his seven starts. The team rallied behind him and finished really strong.

I went to the opening home game in the swamp this year, and the crowd was going nuts for Lagway. UF had a bad season, but Lagway has proven he can win and has some big wins.

He would be a huge get. I just hope we can build a team around him. Without him, I'm doubtful that we will have the mojo to make a splash in the transfer portal.

One theme I've heard from many college GMs/DPPs this month: Pretty tough to be in the $3+ million QB business.

Cost of retention keeps rising. Great ones are worth it. But not easy right now for the programs with lots of portal needs trying to stick to budget/cap.

— Max Olson (@max_olson) December 19, 2025

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Stefano DiMera said:

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I don't sports gamble like a lot of you degenerates on here.

What I do do.. is the horses .

Lagway would be like a thoroughbred dropping down in class to a maiden race coming from those SEC defense to Big 12 defenses

I'd always bet on that horse.

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That's exactly right. NIL and the transfer portal has widened the gap between the big 12 and SEC. They are just on a different level. TCU getting bent over a table in the championship game is a prime example of that.

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I am not saying that there isn't a gap, but people, especially Herbie, forget that TCU beat an undefeated Michigan team the game before. While I hate TCU, it pissed me off when Herbie kept saying that the game showed the different level that the Big 10 and SEC were on compared to other conferences.

RightRevBear said:

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Youre a clown said:

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Stefano DiMera said:

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I don't sports gamble like a lot of you degenerates on here.

What I do do.. is the horses .

Lagway would be like a thoroughbred dropping down in class to a maiden race coming from those SEC defense to Big 12 defenses

I'd always bet on that horse.

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That's exactly right. NIL and the transfer portal has widened the gap between the big 12 and SEC. They are just on a different level. TCU getting bent over a table in the championship game is a prime example of that.

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I am not saying that there isn't a gap, but people, especially Herbie, forget that TCU beat an undefeated Michigan team the game before. While I hate TCU, it pissed me off when Herbie kept saying that the game showed the different level that the Big 10 and SEC were on compared to other conferences.

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I'm not a huge fan of the guy, but the proof is in the pudding. That was one of the worst if not the worst national championship blowout. When you start comparing the best of the Big Ten/SEC to the best of other conferences, there's a massive gap. Texas Tech's budget is kind of the outlier for the big 12 though

CaliBear00 said:

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It appears that Baylor is serious about getting Lagway, and it's clear what the real intent is. This isn't a football move, it's purely a marketing move.

They know keeping Aranda was a wildly unpopular decision. Getting Lagway to sign on is a face saving move to sell tickets and generate hype, and that's all.

Lagway is unlikely to make the team any better, but at least Baylor would be spared the embarrassment of an empty stadium for the home opener.

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That's an interesting point of view. The highest rated player in Program history would be unlikely to make us better?!?

Look, Dave is not a good coach and there are holes to fill for sure, but you have to start somewhere. You also need to give a reason for talent to come to Waco under a coach whose seat might as well be satans throne it's so hot.

This would be a critical piece of that puzzle. It signals to the talent we are trying to get on the bus that we are serious about winning.

Lagway alone isn't going to turn the ship, but it at least slows us down as we barrel toward the iceberg.

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CaliBear00 said:

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It appears that Baylor is serious about getting Lagway, and it's clear what the real intent is. This isn't a football move, it's purely a marketing move.

They know keeping Aranda was a wildly unpopular decision. Getting Lagway to sign on is a face saving move to sell tickets and generate hype, and that's all.

Lagway is unlikely to make the team any better, but at least Baylor would be spared the embarrassment of an empty stadium for the home opener.

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That's an interesting point of view. The highest rated player in Program history would be unlikely to make us better?!?

Look, Dave is not a good coach and there are holes to fill for sure, but you have to start somewhere. You also need to give a reason for talent to come to Waco under a coach whose seat might as well be satans throne it's so hot.

This would be a critical piece of that puzzle. It signals to the talent we are trying to get on the bus that we are serious about winning.

Lagway alone isn't going to turn the ship, but it at least slows us down as we barrel toward the iceberg.

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this. I think there's a lot of negativity for the sake of being negative in this thread right now tbh. Like, I doubt Lagway is the next Cam Newton, but I think he's probably better than any of the other quarterbacks that we have i.e. two dudes with no P4 offers coming out of high school, and one guy that couldn't beat out Jackson Arnold at Auburn.

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Bearknuckle said:

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Strictly from a business standpoint, getting Lagway would be huge. Right now, the prospect of Baylor football next season being entertaining enough to choose watching it over "Taxi" reruns is slim to none. We're talking "The Ocho" all season long. But having a highly coveted 5 star for next season would generate a lot of interest and attention nationally and might even fill the stadium next year, at least in the beginning. Especially if they land a good WR and a couple OL in the portal. Not a fan of NIL/free agency college football, but for the sake of drawing eyeballs and hence $ and staying somewhat relevant, he'd be a real good get.

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This is absolutely correct.

That said if he's running for his life all game long because we couldn't afford him & enough OL transfers, or we're losing games 52-42 because we couldn't afford him along with enough OL & enough DL transfers, then the glowing narrative fades really fast as the Ls pile up.

So it really comes down to how much NIL we can generate. If our biggest boosters* get reengaged then we certainly could land DJ and the right OL & DL prospects to completely turn the program around in one year. If we're just a bit under that...is our QB room, as is, good enough to win big with a shiny new OL and a revamped Defense?

I do think that's very possible. Blowing out Auburn in Atlanta would get us in the spotlight instantly whoever is QB (although in agreement with the post above, DJ would maxx the intensity of that spotlight).

So I don't envy Doug, Aaron and Dave right now...I'm sure none of those three guys is getting much sleep right now...



*once again, I want to publicly thank Jeremy Fudge for sticking by the program we all love through thick and thin with amazing generosity.

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Absent being able to pay materially more money for the players that we want (which we can't do), I don't know how we attract good players to consider Baylor in the current state of our program. We need to make a splash and capture some positive headlines, and signing Lagway can certainly do that.

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Again, we can throw all the money we want on Lagway, but it won't make the team any better. In fact it'll be a net negative as he won't have nearly the supporting cast that he had
at Florida.

The skill players are all gone. The O-line will be comprised of backups entering the portal looking for a starting position. The defense is suspect until proven otherwise. Baylor will be lucky to make it to four wins next season.

We need to roll with the QB room that we have. We're all set at QB.

Getting Lagway on board is the equivalent of buying a Ferrari with bald tires and break lights that are out.

Where does this confidence that we're "all set" at quarterback come from? Again, we have an undersized guy with no P4 offers and no live experience, another guy with no P4 offers and no live experience, and a former highly rated guy from a small high school in Arkansas that couldn't beat out Jackson Arnold on a terrible Auburn team.

Maybe one of those guys is secretly amazing, but that on paper is not the definition of "all set"

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Where does this confidence that we're "all set" at quarterback come from? Again, we have an undersized guy with no P4 offers and no live experience, another guy with no P4 offers and no live experience, and a former highly rated guy from a small high school in Arkansas that couldn't beat out Jackson Arnold on a terrible Auburn team.

Maybe one of those guys is secretly amazing, but that on paper is not the definition of "all set"

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We will almost certainly bring in a QB with some experience. Why not bring in the one with the most overall talent since RGIII and the most arm talent possibly ever?

It's also fallacious to think that just b/c we spend x on him we take exactly that amount away from paying for line transfers. The funding process is dynamic and landing Lagway could induce additional investment from funders.

Football is a sport for QBs --- it's almost always worth it to get the best one you can.

And as a fan, I would love to have something to get excited about and look forward to in 2026 --- this would go a LONG way toward that.

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Youre a clown said:

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Where does this confidence that we're "all set" at quarterback come from? Again, we have an undersized guy with no P4 offers and no live experience, another guy with no P4 offers and no live experience, and a former highly rated guy from a small high school in Arkansas that couldn't beat out Jackson Arnold on a terrible Auburn team.

Maybe one of those guys is secretly amazing, but that on paper is not the definition of "all set"

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We will almost certainly bring in a QB with some experience. Why not bring in the one with the most overall talent since RGIII and the most arm talent possibly ever?

It's also fallacious to think that just b/c we spend x on him we take exactly that amount away from paying for line transfers. The funding process is dynamic and landing Lagway could induce additional investment from funders.

Football is a sport for QBs --- it's almost always worth it to get the best one you can.

And as a fan, I would love to have something to get excited about and look forward to in 2026 --- this would go a LONG way toward that.

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5 Star SEC athlete, large NIL, his advisors, support unit are making him aware of Baylor's situation, two eligibility years left to make it to the next level, almost guaranteed little to none OL in front him... possible injury, better programs out there to sign with yet there's "SMOKE" with him possibly coming to Baylor. Help me here, I really don't think I'm being negative just realistic. Daddy is going to have to be a persuasive and passionate Baptist preacher.

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Ewalker80 said:

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Youre a clown said:

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Where does this confidence that we're "all set" at quarterback come from? Again, we have an undersized guy with no P4 offers and no live experience, another guy with no P4 offers and no live experience, and a former highly rated guy from a small high school in Arkansas that couldn't beat out Jackson Arnold on a terrible Auburn team.

Maybe one of those guys is secretly amazing, but that on paper is not the definition of "all set"

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We will almost certainly bring in a QB with some experience. Why not bring in the one with the most overall talent since RGIII and the most arm talent possibly ever?

It's also fallacious to think that just b/c we spend x on him we take exactly that amount away from paying for line transfers. The funding process is dynamic and landing Lagway could induce additional investment from funders.

Football is a sport for QBs --- it's almost always worth it to get the best one you can.

And as a fan, I would love to have something to get excited about and look forward to in 2026 --- this would go a LONG way toward that.

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5 Star SEC athlete, large NIL, his advisors, support unit are making him aware of Baylor's situation, two eligibility years left to make it to the next level, almost guaranteed little to none OL in front him... possible injury, better programs out there to sign with yet there's "SMOKE" with him possibly coming to Baylor. Help me here, I really don't think I'm being negative just realistic. Daddy is going to have to be a persuasive and passionate Baptist preacher.

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Spav has about as good a record with QBs as anyone in the country. Only a few others can compare.

Not sure why so down on OL. That wasn't our biggest problem on offense in 2024 and we will spend to improve. We lost our top two RBs and OL coach.


We are a couple hours from his home.

We have some high rated wrs in the fold and will buy more.

He is basically assured starting job.

Legacy thing will get him extra press and exposure.


Lots to sell.

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Where does this confidence that we're "all set" at quarterback come from? Again, we have an undersized guy with no P4 offers and no live experience, another guy with no P4 offers and no live experience, and a former highly rated guy from a small high school in Arkansas that couldn't beat out Jackson Arnold on a terrible Auburn team.

Maybe one of those guys is secretly amazing, but that on paper is not the definition of "all set"

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A click or two would have saved you some trouble.

https://sicem365.com/s/17709/liberty-christian-2026-quarterback-quinn-murphy-commits-to-baylor

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Stefano DiMera said:

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I don't sports gamble like a lot of you degenerates on here.

What I do do.. is the horses .

Lagway would be like a thoroughbred dropping down in class to a maiden race coming from those SEC defense to Big 12 defenses

I'd always bet on that horse.

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That's exactly right. NIL and the transfer portal has widened the gap between the big 12 and SEC. They are just on a different level. TCU getting bent over a table in the championship game is a prime example of that.

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I am not saying that there isn't a gap, but people, especially Herbie, forget that TCU beat an undefeated Michigan team the game before. While I hate TCU, it pissed me off when Herbie kept saying that the game showed the different level that the Big 10 and SEC were on compared to other conferences.

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I'm not a huge fan of the guy, but the proof is in the pudding. That was one of the worst if not the worst national championship blowout. When you start comparing the best of the Big Ten/SEC to the best of other conferences, there's a massive gap. Texas Tech's budget is kind of the outlier for the big 12 though

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Did you not read my post? They beat an undefeated Michigan in the semi-final. Logically, you cannot say that this game shows that the Big 10 is on a different level when they beat the undefeated Big10 champion to get to it. You can use other arguments, but this situation does not support your point.

RightRevBear said:

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Youre a clown said:

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RightRevBear said:

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Youre a clown said:

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Stefano DiMera said:

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I don't sports gamble like a lot of you degenerates on here.

What I do do.. is the horses .

Lagway would be like a thoroughbred dropping down in class to a maiden race coming from those SEC defense to Big 12 defenses

I'd always bet on that horse.

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That's exactly right. NIL and the transfer portal has widened the gap between the big 12 and SEC. They are just on a different level. TCU getting bent over a table in the championship game is a prime example of that.

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I am not saying that there isn't a gap, but people, especially Herbie, forget that TCU beat an undefeated Michigan team the game before. While I hate TCU, it pissed me off when Herbie kept saying that the game showed the different level that the Big 10 and SEC were on compared to other conferences.

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I'm not a huge fan of the guy, but the proof is in the pudding. That was one of the worst if not the worst national championship blowout. When you start comparing the best of the Big Ten/SEC to the best of other conferences, there's a massive gap. Texas Tech's budget is kind of the outlier for the big 12 though

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Did you not read my post? They beat an undefeated Michigan in the semi-final. Logically, you cannot say that this game shows that the Big 10 is on a different level when they beat the undefeated Big10 champion to get to it. You can use other arguments, but this situation does not support your point.

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Alrighty, you can think what you want to.

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RightRevBear said:

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Youre a clown said:

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RightRevBear said:

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Youre a clown said:

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Stefano DiMera said:

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I don't sports gamble like a lot of you degenerates on here.

What I do do.. is the horses .

Lagway would be like a thoroughbred dropping down in class to a maiden race coming from those SEC defense to Big 12 defenses

I'd always bet on that horse.

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That's exactly right. NIL and the transfer portal has widened the gap between the big 12 and SEC. They are just on a different level. TCU getting bent over a table in the championship game is a prime example of that.

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I am not saying that there isn't a gap, but people, especially Herbie, forget that TCU beat an undefeated Michigan team the game before. While I hate TCU, it pissed me off when Herbie kept saying that the game showed the different level that the Big 10 and SEC were on compared to other conferences.

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I'm not a huge fan of the guy, but the proof is in the pudding. That was one of the worst if not the worst national championship blowout. When you start comparing the best of the Big Ten/SEC to the best of other conferences, there's a massive gap. Texas Tech's budget is kind of the outlier for the big 12 though

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Did you not read my post? They beat an undefeated Michigan in the semi-final. Logically, you cannot say that this game shows that the Big 10 is on a different level when they beat the undefeated Big10 champion to get to it. You can use other arguments, but this situation does not support your point.

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Alrighty, you can think what you want to.

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I agree that the rich schools in the SEC and Big 10 are playing on another level, but the game does not show that in reference to the Big 10.

RightRevBear said:

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Youre a clown said:

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RightRevBear said:

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Youre a clown said:

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Stefano DiMera said:

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I don't sports gamble like a lot of you degenerates on here.

What I do do.. is the horses .

Lagway would be like a thoroughbred dropping down in class to a maiden race coming from those SEC defense to Big 12 defenses

I'd always bet on that horse.

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That's exactly right. NIL and the transfer portal has widened the gap between the big 12 and SEC. They are just on a different level. TCU getting bent over a table in the championship game is a prime example of that.

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I am not saying that there isn't a gap, but people, especially Herbie, forget that TCU beat an undefeated Michigan team the game before. While I hate TCU, it pissed me off when Herbie kept saying that the game showed the different level that the Big 10 and SEC were on compared to other conferences.

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I'm not a huge fan of the guy, but the proof is in the pudding. That was one of the worst if not the worst national championship blowout. When you start comparing the best of the Big Ten/SEC to the best of other conferences, there's a massive gap. Texas Tech's budget is kind of the outlier for the big 12 though

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Did you not read my post? They beat an undefeated Michigan in the semi-final. Logically, you cannot say that this game shows that the Big 10 is on a different level when they beat the undefeated Big10 champion to get to it. You can use other arguments, but this situation does not support your point.

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there's some crucial context to that game.

2022 was the year Sign Stealing scandal took place - by the TCU playoff game it the word had spread amongst coaching circles and they threw Michigan off by using dummy signals. Michigan actually outscored TCU in the second half, once they realized they had to play it straight up, but they couldn't complete the comeback.

Michigan was a fraudulent team, quite literally, for all of 2022. If they'd have gotten outed earlier, TCU would have faced OSU or Bama or Tennessee, and probably would have lost...just not as badly as Jawja destroyed them.

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Ewalker80 said:

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Where does this confidence that we're "all set" at quarterback come from? Again, we have an undersized guy with no P4 offers and no live experience, another guy with no P4 offers and no live experience, and a former highly rated guy from a small high school in Arkansas that couldn't beat out Jackson Arnold on a terrible Auburn team.

Maybe one of those guys is secretly amazing, but that on paper is not the definition of "all set"

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We will almost certainly bring in a QB with some experience. Why not bring in the one with the most overall talent since RGIII and the most arm talent possibly ever?

It's also fallacious to think that just b/c we spend x on him we take exactly that amount away from paying for line transfers. The funding process is dynamic and landing Lagway could induce additional investment from funders.

Football is a sport for QBs --- it's almost always worth it to get the best one you can.

And as a fan, I would love to have something to get excited about and look forward to in 2026 --- this would go a LONG way toward that.

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5 Star SEC athlete, large NIL, his advisors, support unit are making him aware of Baylor's situation, two eligibility years left to make it to the next level, almost guaranteed little to none OL in front him... possible injury, better programs out there to sign with yet there's "SMOKE" with him possibly coming to Baylor. Help me here, I really don't think I'm being negative just realistic. Daddy is going to have to be a persuasive and passionate Baptist preacher.

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It's Christmas. We have to wish very hard

Stefano DiMera said:

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I don't sports gamble like a lot of you degenerates on here.

What I do do.. is the horses .

Lagway would be like a thoroughbred dropping down in class to a maiden race coming from those SEC defense to Big 12 defenses

I'd always bet on that horse.

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Would you bet on that horse if it left behind the stables, the stable hands, the jockeys and was running from a pack of wolves instead of other horses?

Please explain.

I don't have the grey matter to understand your post.

And I have been drinking watching Alabama and OU.

Anyone have any Lagway updates on this Friday night?

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Strictly from a business standpoint, getting Lagway would be huge. Right now, the prospect of Baylor football next season being entertaining enough to choose watching it over "Taxi" reruns is slim to none. We're talking "The Ocho" all season long. But having a highly coveted 5 star for next season would generate a lot of interest and attention nationally and might even fill the stadium next year, at least in the beginning. Especially if they land a good WR and a couple OL in the portal. Not a fan of NIL/free agency college football, but for the sake of drawing eyeballs and hence $ and staying somewhat relevant, he'd be a real good get.

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This is absolutely correct.

That said if he's running for his life all game long because we couldn't afford him & enough OL transfers, or we're losing games 52-42 because we couldn't afford him along with enough OL & enough DL transfers, then the glowing narrative fades really fast as the Ls pile up.

So it really comes down to how much NIL we can generate. If our biggest boosters* get reengaged then we certainly could land DJ and the right OL & DL prospects to completely turn the program around in one year. If we're just a bit under that...is our QB room, as is, good enough to win big with a shiny new OL and a revamped Defense?

I do think that's very possible. Blowing out Auburn in Atlanta would get us in the spotlight instantly whoever is QB (although in agreement with the post above, DJ would maxx the intensity of that spotlight).

So I don't envy Doug, Aaron and Dave right now...I'm sure none of those three guys is getting much sleep right now...



*once again, I want to publicly thank Jeremy Fudge for sticking by the program we all love through thick and thin with amazing generosity.

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Absent being able to pay materially more money for the players that we want (which we can't do), I don't know how we attract good players to consider Baylor in the current state of our program. We need to make a splash and capture some positive headlines, and signing Lagway can certainly do that.

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Again, we can throw all the money we want on Lagway, but it won't make the team any better. In fact it'll be a net negative as he won't have nearly the supporting cast that he had
at Florida.

The skill players are all gone. The O-line will be comprised of backups entering the portal looking for a starting position. The defense is suspect until proven otherwise. Baylor will be lucky to make it to four wins next season.

We need to roll with the QB room that we have. We're all set at QB.

Getting Lagway on board is the equivalent of buying a Ferrari with bald tires and break lights that are out.

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I'm not saying we automatically go to the playoffs with Lagway or anything like that. Getting him would show that our program is still relevant and that we refuse to accept mediocrity.

I don't get the thinking that just accepts that our team will suck next year and that we shouldn't even attempt to try to improve it.

Chuckroast said:

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CaliBear00 said:

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Chuckroast said:

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Bearknuckle said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Strictly from a business standpoint, getting Lagway would be huge. Right now, the prospect of Baylor football next season being entertaining enough to choose watching it over "Taxi" reruns is slim to none. We're talking "The Ocho" all season long. But having a highly coveted 5 star for next season would generate a lot of interest and attention nationally and might even fill the stadium next year, at least in the beginning. Especially if they land a good WR and a couple OL in the portal. Not a fan of NIL/free agency college football, but for the sake of drawing eyeballs and hence $ and staying somewhat relevant, he'd be a real good get.

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This is absolutely correct.

That said if he's running for his life all game long because we couldn't afford him & enough OL transfers, or we're losing games 52-42 because we couldn't afford him along with enough OL & enough DL transfers, then the glowing narrative fades really fast as the Ls pile up.

So it really comes down to how much NIL we can generate. If our biggest boosters* get reengaged then we certainly could land DJ and the right OL & DL prospects to completely turn the program around in one year. If we're just a bit under that...is our QB room, as is, good enough to win big with a shiny new OL and a revamped Defense?

I do think that's very possible. Blowing out Auburn in Atlanta would get us in the spotlight instantly whoever is QB (although in agreement with the post above, DJ would maxx the intensity of that spotlight).

So I don't envy Doug, Aaron and Dave right now...I'm sure none of those three guys is getting much sleep right now...



*once again, I want to publicly thank Jeremy Fudge for sticking by the program we all love through thick and thin with amazing generosity.

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Absent being able to pay materially more money for the players that we want (which we can't do), I don't know how we attract good players to consider Baylor in the current state of our program. We need to make a splash and capture some positive headlines, and signing Lagway can certainly do that.

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Again, we can throw all the money we want on Lagway, but it won't make the team any better. In fact it'll be a net negative as he won't have nearly the supporting cast that he had
at Florida.

The skill players are all gone. The O-line will be comprised of backups entering the portal looking for a starting position. The defense is suspect until proven otherwise. Baylor will be lucky to make it to four wins next season.

We need to roll with the QB room that we have. We're all set at QB.

Getting Lagway on board is the equivalent of buying a Ferrari with bald tires and break lights that are out.

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I'm not saying we automatically go to the playoffs with Lagway or anything like that. Getting him would show that our program is still relevant and that we refuse to accept mediocrity.

I don't get the thinking that just accepts that our team will suck next year and that we shouldn't even attempt to try to improve it.

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We have to start making moves that work…so far the portal has been pretty much a net neutral for us with a slight lean towards loss.

Getting a guy like lagway sends a message to other players that Baylor still wants to win and helps Dave have a narrative to sell other than "come help me save my job"


Having lagway next year doesn't guarantee a single additional win. But he might be able to help us attract better talent to help him win games.

BUATX2000 said:

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Chuckroast said:

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CaliBear00 said:

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Chuckroast said:

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Bearknuckle said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Strictly from a business standpoint, getting Lagway would be huge. Right now, the prospect of Baylor football next season being entertaining enough to choose watching it over "Taxi" reruns is slim to none. We're talking "The Ocho" all season long. But having a highly coveted 5 star for next season would generate a lot of interest and attention nationally and might even fill the stadium next year, at least in the beginning. Especially if they land a good WR and a couple OL in the portal. Not a fan of NIL/free agency college football, but for the sake of drawing eyeballs and hence $ and staying somewhat relevant, he'd be a real good get.

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This is absolutely correct.

That said if he's running for his life all game long because we couldn't afford him & enough OL transfers, or we're losing games 52-42 because we couldn't afford him along with enough OL & enough DL transfers, then the glowing narrative fades really fast as the Ls pile up.

So it really comes down to how much NIL we can generate. If our biggest boosters* get reengaged then we certainly could land DJ and the right OL & DL prospects to completely turn the program around in one year. If we're just a bit under that...is our QB room, as is, good enough to win big with a shiny new OL and a revamped Defense?

I do think that's very possible. Blowing out Auburn in Atlanta would get us in the spotlight instantly whoever is QB (although in agreement with the post above, DJ would maxx the intensity of that spotlight).

So I don't envy Doug, Aaron and Dave right now...I'm sure none of those three guys is getting much sleep right now...



*once again, I want to publicly thank Jeremy Fudge for sticking by the program we all love through thick and thin with amazing generosity.

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Absent being able to pay materially more money for the players that we want (which we can't do), I don't know how we attract good players to consider Baylor in the current state of our program. We need to make a splash and capture some positive headlines, and signing Lagway can certainly do that.

---

Again, we can throw all the money we want on Lagway, but it won't make the team any better. In fact it'll be a net negative as he won't have nearly the supporting cast that he had
at Florida.

The skill players are all gone. The O-line will be comprised of backups entering the portal looking for a starting position. The defense is suspect until proven otherwise. Baylor will be lucky to make it to four wins next season.

We need to roll with the QB room that we have. We're all set at QB.

Getting Lagway on board is the equivalent of buying a Ferrari with bald tires and break lights that are out.

---

I'm not saying we automatically go to the playoffs with Lagway or anything like that. Getting him would show that our program is still relevant and that we refuse to accept mediocrity.

I don't get the thinking that just accepts that our team will suck next year and that we shouldn't even attempt to try to improve it.

---

We have to start making moves that work…so far the portal has been pretty much a net neutral for us with a slight lean towards loss.

Getting a guy like lagway sends a message to other players that Baylor still wants to win and helps Dave have a narrative to sell other than "come help me save my job"


Having lagway next year doesn't guarantee a single additional win. But he might be able to help us attract better talent to help him win games.

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I see it differently. I think without him, we decline. It's not fun when you have no chance of a bowl by October.

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BUATX2000 said:

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Chuckroast said:

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CaliBear00 said:

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Chuckroast said:

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Bearknuckle said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Strictly from a business standpoint, getting Lagway would be huge. Right now, the prospect of Baylor football next season being entertaining enough to choose watching it over "Taxi" reruns is slim to none. We're talking "The Ocho" all season long. But having a highly coveted 5 star for next season would generate a lot of interest and attention nationally and might even fill the stadium next year, at least in the beginning. Especially if they land a good WR and a couple OL in the portal. Not a fan of NIL/free agency college football, but for the sake of drawing eyeballs and hence $ and staying somewhat relevant, he'd be a real good get.

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This is absolutely correct.

That said if he's running for his life all game long because we couldn't afford him & enough OL transfers, or we're losing games 52-42 because we couldn't afford him along with enough OL & enough DL transfers, then the glowing narrative fades really fast as the Ls pile up.

So it really comes down to how much NIL we can generate. If our biggest boosters* get reengaged then we certainly could land DJ and the right OL & DL prospects to completely turn the program around in one year. If we're just a bit under that...is our QB room, as is, good enough to win big with a shiny new OL and a revamped Defense?

I do think that's very possible. Blowing out Auburn in Atlanta would get us in the spotlight instantly whoever is QB (although in agreement with the post above, DJ would maxx the intensity of that spotlight).

So I don't envy Doug, Aaron and Dave right now...I'm sure none of those three guys is getting much sleep right now...



*once again, I want to publicly thank Jeremy Fudge for sticking by the program we all love through thick and thin with amazing generosity.

---

Absent being able to pay materially more money for the players that we want (which we can't do), I don't know how we attract good players to consider Baylor in the current state of our program. We need to make a splash and capture some positive headlines, and signing Lagway can certainly do that.

---

Again, we can throw all the money we want on Lagway, but it won't make the team any better. In fact it'll be a net negative as he won't have nearly the supporting cast that he had
at Florida.

The skill players are all gone. The O-line will be comprised of backups entering the portal looking for a starting position. The defense is suspect until proven otherwise. Baylor will be lucky to make it to four wins next season.

We need to roll with the QB room that we have. We're all set at QB.

Getting Lagway on board is the equivalent of buying a Ferrari with bald tires and break lights that are out.

---

I'm not saying we automatically go to the playoffs with Lagway or anything like that. Getting him would show that our program is still relevant and that we refuse to accept mediocrity.

I don't get the thinking that just accepts that our team will suck next year and that we shouldn't even attempt to try to improve it.

---

We have to start making moves that work…so far the portal has been pretty much a net neutral for us with a slight lean towards loss.

Getting a guy like lagway sends a message to other players that Baylor still wants to win and helps Dave have a narrative to sell other than "come help me save my job"


Having lagway next year doesn't guarantee a single additional win. But he might be able to help us attract better talent to help him win games.

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Agree - I think that's our best opportunity to get some momentum in the portal.

Plus, I have seen the impact that Lagway has on his team during the season (one of my daughters goes there). The Florida team in 2024 was a completely different team when Lagway started. The whole team played really inspired when he was on the field.

Napier was fired midseason this year, so I wouldn't put this year solely on the shoulders of Lagway. They did give Georgia a great game and beat Texas, so they were a good team that was really inconsistent at times.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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BUATX2000 said:

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Chuckroast said:

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CaliBear00 said:

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Chuckroast said:

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Bearknuckle said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Strictly from a business standpoint, getting Lagway would be huge. Right now, the prospect of Baylor football next season being entertaining enough to choose watching it over "Taxi" reruns is slim to none. We're talking "The Ocho" all season long. But having a highly coveted 5 star for next season would generate a lot of interest and attention nationally and might even fill the stadium next year, at least in the beginning. Especially if they land a good WR and a couple OL in the portal. Not a fan of NIL/free agency college football, but for the sake of drawing eyeballs and hence $ and staying somewhat relevant, he'd be a real good get.

---

This is absolutely correct.

That said if he's running for his life all game long because we couldn't afford him & enough OL transfers, or we're losing games 52-42 because we couldn't afford him along with enough OL & enough DL transfers, then the glowing narrative fades really fast as the Ls pile up.

So it really comes down to how much NIL we can generate. If our biggest boosters* get reengaged then we certainly could land DJ and the right OL & DL prospects to completely turn the program around in one year. If we're just a bit under that...is our QB room, as is, good enough to win big with a shiny new OL and a revamped Defense?

I do think that's very possible. Blowing out Auburn in Atlanta would get us in the spotlight instantly whoever is QB (although in agreement with the post above, DJ would maxx the intensity of that spotlight).

So I don't envy Doug, Aaron and Dave right now...I'm sure none of those three guys is getting much sleep right now...



*once again, I want to publicly thank Jeremy Fudge for sticking by the program we all love through thick and thin with amazing generosity.

---

Absent being able to pay materially more money for the players that we want (which we can't do), I don't know how we attract good players to consider Baylor in the current state of our program. We need to make a splash and capture some positive headlines, and signing Lagway can certainly do that.

---

Again, we can throw all the money we want on Lagway, but it won't make the team any better. In fact it'll be a net negative as he won't have nearly the supporting cast that he had
at Florida.

The skill players are all gone. The O-line will be comprised of backups entering the portal looking for a starting position. The defense is suspect until proven otherwise. Baylor will be lucky to make it to four wins next season.

We need to roll with the QB room that we have. We're all set at QB.

Getting Lagway on board is the equivalent of buying a Ferrari with bald tires and break lights that are out.

---

I'm not saying we automatically go to the playoffs with Lagway or anything like that. Getting him would show that our program is still relevant and that we refuse to accept mediocrity.

I don't get the thinking that just accepts that our team will suck next year and that we shouldn't even attempt to try to improve it.

---

We have to start making moves that work…so far the portal has been pretty much a net neutral for us with a slight lean towards loss.

Getting a guy like lagway sends a message to other players that Baylor still wants to win and helps Dave have a narrative to sell other than "come help me save my job"


Having lagway next year doesn't guarantee a single additional win. But he might be able to help us attract better talent to help him win games.

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I see it differently. I think without him, we decline. It's not fun when you have no chance of a bowl by October.

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I agree with this as well. I think we are a program on the decline, and signing Lagway would be a huge shot in the arm.

Ya he has arguably the best natural tools of any Qb in the country. Given where Baylor is right now how is that possibly not a huge boost of juice to your program?