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Sam Lowry said:

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Pro - life is beyond the birth if not then you are simply pro birth.

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Pro-birth isn't much, but at least it's a start. Who are you to judge if you're not even that?

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I am pro life after the baby leaves the womb. I wish the gop was too

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How are you? What do you do that we don't?

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I am for the programs the gop is against.
Women: "Can I have birth control?"
Republicans: "No."
Women: "I couldn't get birth control so I got pregnant. Can I have an abortion?"
Republicans: "No."
Women: Can I have prenatal and post natal healthcare that I can afford?
Republicans: No
Women: Can I have affordable labor and birth care?
Republicans: No
Women: "I had the baby, but I'm out of work. Can I have WIC and food stamps until I get back on my feet?"
Republicans: "No."
Women: I found a job but it doesn't pay a livable wage. Can I have a $15 minimum wage.
Republicans: No
Women: "I found a job, but it doesn't offer me insurance. Can I have government guaranteed insurance?"
Republicans: "No."
Women: "My kid got sick and I got fired because I missed time caring for him. Can I get unemployment?"
Republicans: "No."
Women: "I'm having a hard time getting my kid from school consistently. Can we fund after-school programs?"
Republicans: "No."

Pro - life is beyond the birth if not then you are simply pro birth. The gop simply wants the maga base to vote with them.

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Calling the voices in your head "Republicans" does not make it so.

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Coke Bear said:

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I am asking "Is this Roman Catholic doctrine?"

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Baptism is a sacrament for the living. The Catholic Church cannot baptize still born or the dead. I believe that only LDS attempt to baptize the dead. I really shouldn't speak for them. Maybe someone here who is LDS or has LDS experience can clarify.

The mass is the highest form of prayer. Therefore, the Church does allow and encourage funeral masses for still born or miscarried babies.

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I am have baptized dead babies who, in my thinking, would have been baptized if they had lived. It was very important to these grieving children.

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this is insanity.

Baptism if for the living, as a sign of their decision to follow/obey God.

There is NO biblical justification for attempting a baptism of the dead... that is just crazy.

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Is his true?
The Catholic Church will not baptize a full term stillborn child that a mother gave birth to. Not only will they not baptize the baby, they will not allow the baby to have a funeral mass. The reason is that the baby never took a breath.
True?

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What?
Are you asking if a church will baptize a dead body?
What are you smoking?

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You owe me an apologize. My question was confirmed by the Roman Catholics here on this site. It was a legitimate question.

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First question... is English your second language?

Second... no.. I will not apologize for asking if you actually thought that a church should baptize a dead body. There is no biblical example of baptizing the dead... that is crazy.

ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Is his true?
The Catholic Church will not baptize a full term stillborn child that a mother gave birth to. Not only will they not baptize the baby, they will not allow the baby to have a funeral mass. The reason is that the baby never took a breath.
True?

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What?
Are you asking if a church will baptize a dead body?
What are you smoking?

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You owe me an apologize. My question was confirmed by the Roman Catholics here on this site. It was a legitimate question.

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First question... is English your second language?

Second... no.. I will not apologize for asking if you actually thought that a church should baptize a dead body. There is no biblical example of baptizing the dead... that is crazy.

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Still me owe an apology and you are calling Roman Catholics crazy. Maybe apologize to them too.

Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Is his true?
The Catholic Church will not baptize a full term stillborn child that a mother gave birth to. Not only will they not baptize the baby, they will not allow the baby to have a funeral mass. The reason is that the baby never took a breath.
True?

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What?
Are you asking if a church will baptize a dead body?
What are you smoking?

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You owe me an apologize. My question was confirmed by the Roman Catholics here on this site. It was a legitimate question.

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First question... is English your second language?

Second... no.. I will not apologize for asking if you actually thought that a church should baptize a dead body. There is no biblical example of baptizing the dead... that is crazy.

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Still me owe an apology and you are calling Roman Catholics crazy. Maybe apologize to them too.

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Again with the English....

As far as I can read, Roman Catholics do not baptize dead bodies. If there are some out there that do baptize dead bodies... then yeah... they are crazy too.

Dead bodies should be respectfully buried... that's it.

ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Is his true?
The Catholic Church will not baptize a full term stillborn child that a mother gave birth to. Not only will they not baptize the baby, they will not allow the baby to have a funeral mass. The reason is that the baby never took a breath.
True?

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What?
Are you asking if a church will baptize a dead body?
What are you smoking?

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You owe me an apologize. My question was confirmed by the Roman Catholics here on this site. It was a legitimate question.

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First question... is English your second language?

Second... no.. I will not apologize for asking if you actually thought that a church should baptize a dead body. There is no biblical example of baptizing the dead... that is crazy.

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Still me owe an apology and you are calling Roman Catholics crazy. Maybe apologize to them too.

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Dead bodies should be respectfully burned on a boat lit by a flaming arrow in the middle of a lake or river.. that's it.

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fixed

Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Is his true?
The Catholic Church will not baptize a full term stillborn child that a mother gave birth to. Not only will they not baptize the baby, they will not allow the baby to have a funeral mass. The reason is that the baby never took a breath.
True?

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What?
Are you asking if a church will baptize a dead body?
What are you smoking?

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You owe me an apologize. My question was confirmed by the Roman Catholics here on this site. It was a legitimate question.

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First question... is English your second language?

Second... no.. I will not apologize for asking if you actually thought that a church should baptize a dead body. There is no biblical example of baptizing the dead... that is crazy.

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Still me owe an apology and you are calling Roman Catholics crazy. Maybe apologize to them too.

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Your stupid ****ing Nazi ass owes every person you have every met an apology. Your pathetic, dysfunctional life's work boils down to little more that keeping the "undesirables" from breeding. You're a Klan eugenicist disguised as a Christian.

Then they should have no problem voting on it. https://t.co/AcWw1kWkO3

— Stephen L. Miller (@redsteeze) May 16, 2022

Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Is his true?
The Catholic Church will not baptize a full term stillborn child that a mother gave birth to. Not only will they not baptize the baby, they will not allow the baby to have a funeral mass. The reason is that the baby never took a breath.
True?

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What?
Are you asking if a church will baptize a dead body?
What are you smoking?

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You owe me an apologize. My question was confirmed by the Roman Catholics here on this site. It was a legitimate question.

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First question... is English your second language?

Second... no.. I will not apologize for asking if you actually thought that a church should baptize a dead body. There is no biblical example of baptizing the dead... that is crazy.

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Still me owe an apology and you are calling Roman Catholics crazy. Maybe apologize to them too.

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Roman Catholics don't baptize the dead. I don't know of any mainstream church that does. I think your point was supposed to be that not baptizing stillborn babies undermines the Church's position that the unborn are persons. It does not, because the Church doesn't baptize dead persons of any age. It does allow and encourage funerals or similar rites for persons of any age.

Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Is his true?
The Catholic Church will not baptize a full term stillborn child that a mother gave birth to. Not only will they not baptize the baby, they will not allow the baby to have a funeral mass. The reason is that the baby never took a breath.
True?

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What?
Are you asking if a church will baptize a dead body?
What are you smoking?

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You owe me an apologize. My question was confirmed by the Roman Catholics here on this site. It was a legitimate question.

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First question... is English your second language?

Second... no.. I will not apologize for asking if you actually thought that a church should baptize a dead body. There is no biblical example of baptizing the dead... that is crazy.

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Still me owe an apology and you are calling Roman Catholics crazy. Maybe apologize to them too.

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I'm really sorry. Sorry that this baptism-after-death thing you brought up that you thought sounded really smart in your friends' echo-chamber, but when trotted out into a wider audience of viewpoints here turned out to be viewd as inane and nonsensical. Very, very sorry. Hope that helps.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Is his true?
The Catholic Church will not baptize a full term stillborn child that a mother gave birth to. Not only will they not baptize the baby, they will not allow the baby to have a funeral mass. The reason is that the baby never took a breath.
True?

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What?
Are you asking if a church will baptize a dead body?
What are you smoking?

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You owe me an apologize. My question was confirmed by the Roman Catholics here on this site. It was a legitimate question.

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First question... is English your second language?

Second... no.. I will not apologize for asking if you actually thought that a church should baptize a dead body. There is no biblical example of baptizing the dead... that is crazy.

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Still me owe an apology and you are calling Roman Catholics crazy. Maybe apologize to them too.

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Your stupid ****ing Nazi ass owes every person you have every met an apology. Your pathetic, dysfunctional life's work boils down to little more that keeping the "undesirables" from breeding. You're a Klan eugenicist disguised as a Christian.

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You get him.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Is his true?
The Catholic Church will not baptize a full term stillborn child that a mother gave birth to. Not only will they not baptize the baby, they will not allow the baby to have a funeral mass. The reason is that the baby never took a breath.
True?

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What?
Are you asking if a church will baptize a dead body?
What are you smoking?

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You owe me an apologize. My question was confirmed by the Roman Catholics here on this site. It was a legitimate question.

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First question... is English your second language?

Second... no.. I will not apologize for asking if you actually thought that a church should baptize a dead body. There is no biblical example of baptizing the dead... that is crazy.

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Still me owe an apology and you are calling Roman Catholics crazy. Maybe apologize to them too.

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Your stupid ****ing Nazi Marxist ass owes every person you have every met an apology. Your pathetic, dysfunctional life's work boils down to little more that keeping the "undesirables" from breeding. You're a Klan eugenicist disguised as a Christian.

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FIFY to avoid befalling Godwin's Law.

My response quotes the Catholic Catachism and from Catholic Hospital. Stillborn dead before baptized, funeral rites. You cannot baptize a dead person. Logically, if dead, soul has departed.

I guess somewhere someone believes you can baptize dead.

Maybe just mostly dead. If so, try a Miracle Max chocolate covered pill first. Than funeral rites if doesn't wotk.

Sam Lowry said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Is his true?
The Catholic Church will not baptize a full term stillborn child that a mother gave birth to. Not only will they not baptize the baby, they will not allow the baby to have a funeral mass. The reason is that the baby never took a breath.
True?

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What?
Are you asking if a church will baptize a dead body?
What are you smoking?

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You owe me an apologize. My question was confirmed by the Roman Catholics here on this site. It was a legitimate question.

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First question... is English your second language?

Second... no.. I will not apologize for asking if you actually thought that a church should baptize a dead body. There is no biblical example of baptizing the dead... that is crazy.

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Still me owe an apology and you are calling Roman Catholics crazy. Maybe apologize to them too.

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Roman Catholics don't baptize the dead. I don't know of any mainstream church that does. I think your point was supposed to be that not baptizing stillborn babies undermines the Church's position that the unborn are persons. It does not, because the Church doesn't baptize dead persons of any age. It does allow and encourage funerals or similar rites for persons of any age.

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Yea, Waco is a strange guy.

No major Jewish or Christian sect Baptizes the dead.

The LDS/Mormons (off shoot of Christianity) does this but they don't baptize the dead body...a living person stands in for the deceased at some later time for the ceremony.

Waco1947 said:

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Is his true?
The Catholic Church will not baptize a full term stillborn child that a mother gave birth to. Not only will they not baptize the baby, they will not allow the baby to have a funeral mass. The reason is that the baby never took a breath.
True?

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Frequently Asked Questions: The baptism of a stillborn infant. (catholicdoors.com)

Ghostrider said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Is his true?
The Catholic Church will not baptize a full term stillborn child that a mother gave birth to. Not only will they not baptize the baby, they will not allow the baby to have a funeral mass. The reason is that the baby never took a breath.
True?

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Frequently Asked Questions: The baptism of a stillborn infant. (catholicdoors.com)

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well... it looks like I was right.

no need to apologize to the Catholic Church or anyone else... because only Waco had the insane idea that it is right to baptize a dead body.

ShooterTX said:

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Ghostrider said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Is his true?
The Catholic Church will not baptize a full term stillborn child that a mother gave birth to. Not only will they not baptize the baby, they will not allow the baby to have a funeral mass. The reason is that the baby never took a breath.
True?

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Frequently Asked Questions: The baptism of a stillborn infant. (catholicdoors.com)

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well... it looks like I was right.

no need to apologize to the Catholic Church or anyone else... because only Waco had the insane idea that it is right to baptize a dead body.

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I believe it is up to the parent. I don't think you need to baptize a dead body, but certainly understand any parent that would want to.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Is his true?
The Catholic Church will not baptize a full term stillborn child that a mother gave birth to. Not only will they not baptize the baby, they will not allow the baby to have a funeral mass. The reason is that the baby never took a breath.
True?

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What?
Are you asking if a church will baptize a dead body?
What are you smoking?

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You owe me an apologize. My question was confirmed by the Roman Catholics here on this site. It was a legitimate question.

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First question... is English your second language?

Second... no.. I will not apologize for asking if you actually thought that a church should baptize a dead body. There is no biblical example of baptizing the dead... that is crazy.

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Still me owe an apology and you are calling Roman Catholics crazy. Maybe apologize to them too.

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Roman Catholics don't baptize the dead. I don't know of any mainstream church that does. I think your point was supposed to be that not baptizing stillborn babies undermines the Church's position that the unborn are persons. It does not, because the Church doesn't baptize dead persons of any age. It does allow and encourage funerals or similar rites for persons of any age.

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Thank you for A kind answer. But I still don't understand the point that you were making about not baptizing dead people of any age. thank you

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Thank you for A kind answer. But I still don't understand the point that you were making about not baptizing dead people of any age. thank you

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Not trying to speak for Sam; however, ...

According to the Catholic Church baptism removes the stain of original sin and makes an indelible mark on one's soul.

If a person is dead, the soul is no longer present. Maybe that's why he stated that we should not baptize the dead. It is not efficacious. All it does is get them wet.

Coke Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Thank you for A kind answer. But I still don't understand the point that you were making about not baptizing dead people of any age. thank you

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Not trying to speak for Sam; however, ...

According to the Catholic Church baptism removes the stain of original sin and makes an indelible mark on one's soul.

If a person is dead, the soul is no longer present. Maybe that's why he stated that we should not baptize the dead. It is not efficacious. All it does is get them wet.

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Thank you for your kind answer but 47 still doesn't understand your point.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Is his true?
The Catholic Church will not baptize a full term stillborn child that a mother gave birth to. Not only will they not baptize the baby, they will not allow the baby to have a funeral mass. The reason is that the baby never took a breath.
True?

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What?
Are you asking if a church will baptize a dead body?
What are you smoking?

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You owe me an apologize. My question was confirmed by the Roman Catholics here on this site. It was a legitimate question.

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First question... is English your second language?

Second... no.. I will not apologize for asking if you actually thought that a church should baptize a dead body. There is no biblical example of baptizing the dead... that is crazy.

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Still me owe an apology and you are calling Roman Catholics crazy. Maybe apologize to them too.

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Roman Catholics don't baptize the dead. I don't know of any mainstream church that does. I think your point was supposed to be that not baptizing stillborn babies undermines the Church's position that the unborn are persons. It does not, because the Church doesn't baptize dead persons of any age. It does allow and encourage funerals or similar rites for persons of any age.

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Thank you for A kind answer. But I still don't understand the point that you were making about not baptizing dead people of any age. thank you

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The reason Catholics don't baptize a stillborn baby is not that it never took a breath, or that it never left the womb, or that it isn't fully a person. It's the same reason we don't baptize dead people in general. We don't believe it has any effect.

Coke Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Thank you for A kind answer. But I still don't understand the point that you were making about not baptizing dead people of any age. thank you

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Not trying to speak for Sam; however, ...

According to the Catholic Church baptism removes the stain of original sin and makes an indelible mark on one's soul.

If a person is dead, the soul is no longer present. Maybe that's why he stated that we should not baptize the dead. It is not efficacious. All it does is get them wet.

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Thank you. Now I get it.

SCOOP: The U.S. government is bracing for a potential surge in political violence once the Supreme Court hands down the ruling that's expected to overturn Roe v. Wade, according to a Department of Homeland Security memo obtained by Axios. https://t.co/4XZAvUcLvI

— Axios (@axios) May 18, 2022

I think they meant "peaceful protests."

Q: "Do you believe that men can become pregnant and have abortions?" -@RepDanBishop

A: "Yes." -Democrat witness pic.twitter.com/TfxboajSJU

— House Judiciary GOP (@JudiciaryGOP) May 18, 2022

RMF5630 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Is his true?
The Catholic Church will not baptize a full term stillborn child that a mother gave birth to. Not only will they not baptize the baby, they will not allow the baby to have a funeral mass. The reason is that the baby never took a breath.
True?

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What?
Are you asking if a church will baptize a dead body?
What are you smoking?

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A stillborn is issued a birth and death certificate. Photos are taken for closure. Funeral rites are appropriate. There are also blessings that are used "Order for Blessing of Parents After a Miscarriage. The Order of Christian Funerals ".

"Indeed the great mercy of God who desires that all men should be saved and Jesus' tenderness toward children which caused him to say: "Let them come to me, do not hinder them" allow us to hope that there is a way of salvation for children who have died without baptism (Catechism of the Catholic Church 1261).

Basically, without baptism, there is no way of knowing. So we hope. But the church does not just toss em aside., as implied.

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So the answer is "no".

And whether this is Barrett or not is not the point. It is a belief too many White people have: if they have or adopt a child of color, then they can't be racist.

— Ibram X. Kendi (@DrIbram) September 26, 2020

Jack Bauer said:

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And whether this is Barrett or not is not the point. It is a belief too many White people have: if they have or adopt a child of color, then they can't be racist.

— Ibram X. Kendi (@DrIbram) September 26, 2020

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Prime examples of the moral and ethical rot, that comes from leftist views.
These comments are disgusting.

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Jack Bauer said:

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And whether this is Barrett or not is not the point. It is a belief too many White people have: if they have or adopt a child of color, then they can't be racist.

— Ibram X. Kendi (@DrIbram) September 26, 2020

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Prime examples of the moral and ethical rot, that comes from leftist views.
These comments are disgusting.

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Yep. Change brown to white and evangelical to Muslim, and she would be cancelled. Usual anti-intellectual, anti-data views from the authoritarians ... I know have many friends that have adopted "brown" children, and to a kid they're all thriving and successful.

Why does everyone think roe v wade gonna help dems in November..

NEW: @QuinnipiacPoll

2022 Generic Congressional Ballot (RV)
Republicans 47% (+4)
Democrats 43%

2022 Generic Senate Ballot (RV)
Republicans 48% (+4)
Democrats 44%

Generic Ballot Trends
Before SCOTUS leak: R+3
After SCOTUS leak: R+4

1,421 RV | 5/12-5/16

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Why does everyone think roe v wade gonna help dems in November..

NEW: @QuinnipiacPoll

2022 Generic Congressional Ballot (RV)
Republicans 47% (+4)
Democrats 43%

2022 Generic Senate Ballot (RV)
Republicans 48% (+4)
Democrats 44%

Generic Ballot Trends
Before SCOTUS leak: R+3
After SCOTUS leak: R+4

1,421 RV | 5/12-5/16

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I think this can partially be explained by another story in the news... the amount of fake and bot accounts on Social Media platforms.

It appears that for the past several years, Twitter has been creating a very, very false "reality" which favored the leftist agenda. They have made the Twitter-verse into a far left leaning world, and a lot of people believed that Twitter was an accurate reflection of the real world. Within the Social Media world, abortion is supported by the VAST majority and pro-lifers are universally condemned as Nazis. The numbers you posted reflect what is happening in the real world, not the online world.

Most people don't care so much about Roe v Wade, and the nation has slowly been moving away from the more radical pro-abortion side towards a more rational view of abortion only in extreme circumstances. Technology has played a major role, as the 3D sonogram makes it impossible to believe the "clump of cells" lie that was so effective in the 60s and 70s. It should be no surprise that the most radical pro-aborts are folks over 65. They have committed way too much of their life & identity to abortion, so it is very hard for them to face the truth.

Women vote. They are looking for a party that cares about them. The gop is not that party.

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Women vote. They are looking for a party that cares about them. The gop is not that party.

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Babies grow up to vote. They are looking for a party that cares about them and will protect their lives. The Democrats are not that party.

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Women vote. They are looking for a party that cares about them. The gop is not that party.

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Babies grow up to vote. They are looking for a party that cares about them and will protect their lives. The Democrats are not that party.

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Maybe the GOP should pay more attention to the post-unborn vote.