Apply the law equally

ANTI-RELIGION: Pro Abortion protesters continue to protest directly outside of Brett Kavanaugh’s home last night attacking his Catholic faith by accusing him of being a “Christo Fascist” | @TPUSA pic.twitter.com/FXUcxz9QXl

— Drew Hernandez (@DrewHLive) June 23, 2022

How many were arrested out of this group?

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

We have basically transitioned to a full scale banana republic. We have fully weaponized the government to selectively enforce different laws. Between the January 6 hysterics to the lawfare launched against Donald Trump.

---

Let's cut out melodramatics, her kid had a kid. That doesn't give her the right to break law. What did she actually do in those 10 minutes and where was she. . Sick of the drama. .

---

She walked around the Capitol building…a public taxpayer owned building.

That's it

It's a building owned by the American people…not an imperial palace or some Chinese forbidden city.

Its Senate and Representative chambers are literally built with public balconies so that the public citizens can watch their servants carry out public business

---

.

You want to play games like it is a public building, Capitol Police said not to go in

---

No games…it's a serious question with constitutional implications.

When did we decided as a Nation that the people's house was off limits to the people?

Now maybe the Senate and House chambers specifically can maybe-perhaps be closed on certain (very limited) time frames for Senate and House business.

(Even then we have deal with the fact that the chambers themselves are built with public galleys/balconies so that the general public can come in off the street and watch public business talking place)

But the idea that the entire Capitol complex is closed to the people of the United States is suspect to say the least….certainly far outside the expectations of the Founding Fathers.

---

Serious response. You guys rail on personal responsibility, usually about finances because most on here are well off, how is this different?

You see the situation going south. There are Police barricades. People are breaking windows. People are scaling the walls, wearing military gear, waving Confederate flags. People popped smoke....

What do you do? Join the mob and go in? Or get out of there? Come on. It does not take military training to know to get away from that site! Go to any basic Krav Maga class, rule #1 get away from danger. Not tough stuff.

You join the mob, go inside take selfies while people are overrunning the Capital. You think this is the peoples house, they can't do anything? Or, no one will care that Congress had to be evacuated. Really, who f-ing thinks that way?

No, what this is about is these poor schmucks thought Donald was going to Pardon them all. They trusted Donald. He hung them out to dry. They now have criminal records while he walked away, covered himself with a BS "go peacefully", and turned it into a rally cry for 2024. These people believed in him, and he used them. You wonder why I hate Trump, look at Jan 6th and the aftermath for those people who believed in him. Most lives are at best set back and at worst ruined. He turned his back in a second, smirking...


You guys are villanizing law enforcement and the courts, they are doing their jobs. You CAN'T have Jan 6th and not come down hard. CIA guy knows that, but he likes Donald more than the poor schmucks Donald used.

Disagree, many do. Bannon has crafted a story these poor people want to believe.

---

I love how you throw in the Confederate flag like it's a bad thing.

It's a symbol of American state independence and resistance to Federal tyranny.

You seem to think it's big and scary…when its a symbol of protest…carried at a protest

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

We have basically transitioned to a full scale banana republic. We have fully weaponized the government to selectively enforce different laws. Between the January 6 hysterics to the lawfare launched against Donald Trump.

---

Let's cut out melodramatics, her kid had a kid. That doesn't give her the right to break law. What did she actually do in those 10 minutes and where was she. . Sick of the drama. .

---

She walked around the Capitol building…a public taxpayer owned building.

That's it

It's a building owned by the American people…not an imperial palace or some Chinese forbidden city.

Its Senate and Representative chambers are literally built with public balconies so that the public citizens can watch their servants carry out public business

---

.

You want to play games like it is a public building, Capitol Police said not to go in

---

No games…it's a serious question with constitutional implications.

When did we decided as a Nation that the people's house was off limits to the people?

Now maybe the Senate and House chambers specifically can maybe-perhaps be closed on certain (very limited) time frames for Senate and House business.

(Even then we have deal with the fact that the chambers themselves are built with public galleys/balconies so that the general public can come in off the street and watch public business talking place)

But the idea that the entire Capitol complex is closed to the people of the United States is suspect to say the least….certainly far outside the expectations of the Founding Fathers.

---

Serious response. You guys rail on personal responsibility, usually about finances because most on here are well off, how is this different?

You see the situation going south. There are Police barricades. People are breaking windows. People are scaling the walls, wearing military gear, waving Confederate flags. People popped smoke....

What do you do? Join the mob and go in? Or get out of there? Come on. It does not take military training to know to get away from that site! Go to any basic Krav Maga class, rule #1 get away from danger. Not tough stuff.

You join the mob, go inside take selfies while people are overrunning the Capital. You think this is the peoples house, they can't do anything? Or, no one will care that Congress had to be evacuated. Really, who f-ing thinks that way?

No, what this is about is these poor schmucks thought Donald was going to Pardon them all. They trusted Donald. He hung them out to dry. They now have criminal records while he walked away, covered himself with a BS "go peacefully", and turned it into a rally cry for 2024. These people believed in him, and he used them. You wonder why I hate Trump, look at Jan 6th and the aftermath for those people who believed in him. Most lives are at best set back and at worst ruined. He turned his back in a second, smirking...


You guys are villanizing law enforcement and the courts, they are doing their jobs. You CAN'T have Jan 6th and not come down hard. CIA guy knows that, but he likes Donald more than the poor schmucks Donald used.

Disagree, many do. Bannon has crafted a story these poor people want to believe.

---

I love how you throw in the Confederate flag like it's a bad thing.

It's a symbol of American state independence and resistance to Federal tyranny.

You seem to think it's big and scary…when its a symbol of protest…carried at a protest

---

So, how many events with people waving Confederate flags end well? Look, Marge. People waving Confederate flags, red smoke and people climbing through windows, let's go over there. What does tripadvisor say?


You are really going to take that out of my view of Donald f-ing over those poor schmucks that believed in him on Jan 6th? A little deflection because you know I am right...

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

We have basically transitioned to a full scale banana republic. We have fully weaponized the government to selectively enforce different laws. Between the January 6 hysterics to the lawfare launched against Donald Trump.

---

Let's cut out melodramatics, her kid had a kid. That doesn't give her the right to break law. What did she actually do in those 10 minutes and where was she. . Sick of the drama. .

---

She walked around the Capitol building…a public taxpayer owned building.

That's it

It's a building owned by the American people…not an imperial palace or some Chinese forbidden city.

Its Senate and Representative chambers are literally built with public balconies so that the public citizens can watch their servants carry out public business

---

.

You want to play games like it is a public building, Capitol Police said not to go in

---

No games…it's a serious question with constitutional implications.

When did we decided as a Nation that the people's house was off limits to the people?

Now maybe the Senate and House chambers specifically can maybe-perhaps be closed on certain (very limited) time frames for Senate and House business.

(Even then we have deal with the fact that the chambers themselves are built with public galleys/balconies so that the general public can come in off the street and watch public business talking place)

But the idea that the entire Capitol complex is closed to the people of the United States is suspect to say the least….certainly far outside the expectations of the Founding Fathers.

---

Serious response. You guys rail on personal responsibility, usually about finances because most on here are well off, how is this different?

You see the situation going south. There are Police barricades. People are breaking windows. People are scaling the walls, wearing military gear, waving Confederate flags. People popped smoke....

What do you do? Join the mob and go in? Or get out of there? Come on. It does not take military training to know to get away from that site! Go to any basic Krav Maga class, rule #1 get away from danger. Not tough stuff.

You join the mob, go inside take selfies while people are overrunning the Capital. You think this is the peoples house, they can't do anything? Or, no one will care that Congress had to be evacuated. Really, who f-ing thinks that way?

No, what this is about is these poor schmucks thought Donald was going to Pardon them all. They trusted Donald. He hung them out to dry. They now have criminal records while he walked away, covered himself with a BS "go peacefully", and turned it into a rally cry for 2024. These people believed in him, and he used them. You wonder why I hate Trump, look at Jan 6th and the aftermath for those people who believed in him. Most lives are at best set back and at worst ruined. He turned his back in a second, smirking...


You guys are villanizing law enforcement and the courts, they are doing their jobs. You CAN'T have Jan 6th and not come down hard. CIA guy knows that, but he likes Donald more than the poor schmucks Donald used.

Disagree, many do. Bannon has crafted a story these poor people want to believe.

---

I love how you throw in the Confederate flag like it's a bad thing.

It's a symbol of American state independence and resistance to Federal tyranny.

You seem to think it's big and scary…when its a symbol of protest…carried at a protest

---

So, how many events with people waving Confederate flags end well?

A little deflection because you know I am right...

---

Plenty end just fine

And it's no deflection….Confederate flags or no Confederate flags….American citizens have a right to protest.

At the Capitol or any other public place.

On Jan.6th or on any other day.

Its amazing how a right coded protest (vs the usually left coded protests) brings out the jackboots who want to see the State use power to crush dissidents

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

We have basically transitioned to a full scale banana republic. We have fully weaponized the government to selectively enforce different laws. Between the January 6 hysterics to the lawfare launched against Donald Trump.

---

Let's cut out melodramatics, her kid had a kid. That doesn't give her the right to break law. What did she actually do in those 10 minutes and where was she. . Sick of the drama. .

---

She walked around the Capitol building…a public taxpayer owned building.

That's it

It's a building owned by the American people…not an imperial palace or some Chinese forbidden city.

Its Senate and Representative chambers are literally built with public balconies so that the public citizens can watch their servants carry out public business

---

.

You want to play games like it is a public building, Capitol Police said not to go in

---

No games…it's a serious question with constitutional implications.

When did we decided as a Nation that the people's house was off limits to the people?

Now maybe the Senate and House chambers specifically can maybe-perhaps be closed on certain (very limited) time frames for Senate and House business.

(Even then we have deal with the fact that the chambers themselves are built with public galleys/balconies so that the general public can come in off the street and watch public business talking place)

But the idea that the entire Capitol complex is closed to the people of the United States is suspect to say the least….certainly far outside the expectations of the Founding Fathers.

---

Serious response. You guys rail on personal responsibility, usually about finances because most on here are well off, how is this different?

You see the situation going south. There are Police barricades. People are breaking windows. People are scaling the walls, wearing military gear, waving Confederate flags. People popped smoke....

What do you do? Join the mob and go in? Or get out of there? Come on. It does not take military training to know to get away from that site! Go to any basic Krav Maga class, rule #1 get away from danger. Not tough stuff.

You join the mob, go inside take selfies while people are overrunning the Capital. You think this is the peoples house, they can't do anything? Or, no one will care that Congress had to be evacuated. Really, who f-ing thinks that way?

No, what this is about is these poor schmucks thought Donald was going to Pardon them all. They trusted Donald. He hung them out to dry. They now have criminal records while he walked away, covered himself with a BS "go peacefully", and turned it into a rally cry for 2024. These people believed in him, and he used them. You wonder why I hate Trump, look at Jan 6th and the aftermath for those people who believed in him. Most lives are at best set back and at worst ruined. He turned his back in a second, smirking...


You guys are villanizing law enforcement and the courts, they are doing their jobs. You CAN'T have Jan 6th and not come down hard. CIA guy knows that, but he likes Donald more than the poor schmucks Donald used.

Disagree, many do. Bannon has crafted a story these poor people want to believe.

---

I love how you throw in the Confederate flag like it's a bad thing.

It's a symbol of American state independence and resistance to Federal tyranny.

You seem to think it's big and scary…when its a symbol of protest…carried at a protest

---

So, how many events with people waving Confederate flags end well?

A little deflection because you know I am right...

---

Plenty end just fine

And it's no deflection….Confederate flags or no Confederate flags….American citizens have a right to protest.

At the Capitol or any other public place.

On Jan.6th or on any other day.

Its amazing how a right coded protest (vs the usually left coded protests) brings out the jackboots who want to see the State use power to crush dissidents

---

You can protest all you want. Just don't break into Federal Buildings and stop Government functions, like the CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTION! That is not a "protest", that is an illegal act.

Protest all you want, be THE "Patriot", the one man willing to stand up to the "Man". Go for it. But than don't go little ***** when you get the punishment that comes with it. You seem to think that there are no consequences. If you lose, you will get slapped down. Be as big a man now when they lost as before as part of the mob.

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

We have basically transitioned to a full scale banana republic. We have fully weaponized the government to selectively enforce different laws. Between the January 6 hysterics to the lawfare launched against Donald Trump.

---

Let's cut out melodramatics, her kid had a kid. That doesn't give her the right to break law. What did she actually do in those 10 minutes and where was she. . Sick of the drama. .

---

She walked around the Capitol building…a public taxpayer owned building.

That's it

It's a building owned by the American people…not an imperial palace or some Chinese forbidden city.

Its Senate and Representative chambers are literally built with public balconies so that the public citizens can watch their servants carry out public business

---

.

You want to play games like it is a public building, Capitol Police said not to go in

---

No games…it's a serious question with constitutional implications.

When did we decided as a Nation that the people's house was off limits to the people?

Now maybe the Senate and House chambers specifically can maybe-perhaps be closed on certain (very limited) time frames for Senate and House business.

(Even then we have deal with the fact that the chambers themselves are built with public galleys/balconies so that the general public can come in off the street and watch public business talking place)

But the idea that the entire Capitol complex is closed to the people of the United States is suspect to say the least….certainly far outside the expectations of the Founding Fathers.

---

Serious response. You guys rail on personal responsibility, usually about finances because most on here are well off, how is this different?

You see the situation going south. There are Police barricades. People are breaking windows. People are scaling the walls, wearing military gear, waving Confederate flags. People popped smoke....

What do you do? Join the mob and go in? Or get out of there? Come on. It does not take military training to know to get away from that site! Go to any basic Krav Maga class, rule #1 get away from danger. Not tough stuff.

You join the mob, go inside take selfies while people are overrunning the Capital. You think this is the peoples house, they can't do anything? Or, no one will care that Congress had to be evacuated. Really, who f-ing thinks that way?

No, what this is about is these poor schmucks thought Donald was going to Pardon them all. They trusted Donald. He hung them out to dry. They now have criminal records while he walked away, covered himself with a BS "go peacefully", and turned it into a rally cry for 2024. These people believed in him, and he used them. You wonder why I hate Trump, look at Jan 6th and the aftermath for those people who believed in him. Most lives are at best set back and at worst ruined. He turned his back in a second, smirking...


You guys are villanizing law enforcement and the courts, they are doing their jobs. You CAN'T have Jan 6th and not come down hard. CIA guy knows that, but he likes Donald more than the poor schmucks Donald used.

Disagree, many do. Bannon has crafted a story these poor people want to believe.

---

I love how you throw in the Confederate flag like it's a bad thing.

It's a symbol of American state independence and resistance to Federal tyranny.

You seem to think it's big and scary…when its a symbol of protest…carried at a protest

---

So, how many events with people waving Confederate flags end well?

A little deflection because you know I am right...

---

Plenty end just fine

And it's no deflection….Confederate flags or no Confederate flags….American citizens have a right to protest.

At the Capitol or any other public place.

On Jan.6th or on any other day.

Its amazing how a right coded protest (vs the usually left coded protests) brings out the jackboots who want to see the State use power to crush dissidents

---

You can protest all you want. Just don't break into Federal Buildings and stop Government functions, like the CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTION! That is not a "protest", that is an illegal act.

---

How many of the protesters that day actually inferred in the certification process? 2 dozen? Less?

99% were charged for just entering the Capitol building and peacefully protesting…something that is their right.

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

We have basically transitioned to a full scale banana republic. We have fully weaponized the government to selectively enforce different laws. Between the January 6 hysterics to the lawfare launched against Donald Trump.

---

Let's cut out melodramatics, her kid had a kid. That doesn't give her the right to break law. What did she actually do in those 10 minutes and where was she. . Sick of the drama. .

---

She walked around the Capitol building…a public taxpayer owned building.

That's it

It's a building owned by the American people…not an imperial palace or some Chinese forbidden city.

Its Senate and Representative chambers are literally built with public balconies so that the public citizens can watch their servants carry out public business

---

.

You want to play games like it is a public building, Capitol Police said not to go in

---

No games…it's a serious question with constitutional implications.

When did we decided as a Nation that the people's house was off limits to the people?

Now maybe the Senate and House chambers specifically can maybe-perhaps be closed on certain (very limited) time frames for Senate and House business.

(Even then we have deal with the fact that the chambers themselves are built with public galleys/balconies so that the general public can come in off the street and watch public business talking place)

But the idea that the entire Capitol complex is closed to the people of the United States is suspect to say the least….certainly far outside the expectations of the Founding Fathers.

---

Serious response. You guys rail on personal responsibility, usually about finances because most on here are well off, how is this different?

You see the situation going south. There are Police barricades. People are breaking windows. People are scaling the walls, wearing military gear, waving Confederate flags. People popped smoke....

What do you do? Join the mob and go in? Or get out of there? Come on. It does not take military training to know to get away from that site! Go to any basic Krav Maga class, rule #1 get away from danger. Not tough stuff.

You join the mob, go inside take selfies while people are overrunning the Capital. You think this is the peoples house, they can't do anything? Or, no one will care that Congress had to be evacuated. Really, who f-ing thinks that way?

No, what this is about is these poor schmucks thought Donald was going to Pardon them all. They trusted Donald. He hung them out to dry. They now have criminal records while he walked away, covered himself with a BS "go peacefully", and turned it into a rally cry for 2024. These people believed in him, and he used them. You wonder why I hate Trump, look at Jan 6th and the aftermath for those people who believed in him. Most lives are at best set back and at worst ruined. He turned his back in a second, smirking...


You guys are villanizing law enforcement and the courts, they are doing their jobs. You CAN'T have Jan 6th and not come down hard. CIA guy knows that, but he likes Donald more than the poor schmucks Donald used.

Disagree, many do. Bannon has crafted a story these poor people want to believe.

---

I love how you throw in the Confederate flag like it's a bad thing.

It's a symbol of American state independence and resistance to Federal tyranny.

You seem to think it's big and scary…when its a symbol of protest…carried at a protest

---

So, how many events with people waving Confederate flags end well?

A little deflection because you know I am right...

---

Plenty end just fine

And it's no deflection….Confederate flags or no Confederate flags….American citizens have a right to protest.

At the Capitol or any other public place.

On Jan.6th or on any other day.

Its amazing how a right coded protest (vs the usually left coded protests) brings out the jackboots who want to see the State use power to crush dissidents

---

You can protest all you want. Just don't break into Federal Buildings and stop Government functions, like the CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTION! That is not a "protest", that is an illegal act.

---

How many of the protesters that day actually inferred in the certification process? 2 dozen? Less?

99% were charged for just entering the Capitol building and peacefully protesting…something that is their right.

---

You seriously believe that the people on the steps and inside the Capital should just walk? No harm, no foul... Let it go?

You seriously don't understand that the US Government HAS to come down hard on the behavior. That is a foreign concept to you? You honestly think they all should just walk. What percent of the total number that was there were charged? Trump has stated up to 80,000 people were there, I think closer to 30k, and 1250 were charged. How is that the Fed gone nuts?????

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

We have basically transitioned to a full scale banana republic. We have fully weaponized the government to selectively enforce different laws. Between the January 6 hysterics to the lawfare launched against Donald Trump.

---

Let's cut out melodramatics, her kid had a kid. That doesn't give her the right to break law. What did she actually do in those 10 minutes and where was she. . Sick of the drama. .

---

She walked around the Capitol building…a public taxpayer owned building.

That's it

It's a building owned by the American people…not an imperial palace or some Chinese forbidden city.

Its Senate and Representative chambers are literally built with public balconies so that the public citizens can watch their servants carry out public business

---

.

You want to play games like it is a public building, Capitol Police said not to go in

---

No games…it's a serious question with constitutional implications.

When did we decided as a Nation that the people's house was off limits to the people?

Now maybe the Senate and House chambers specifically can maybe-perhaps be closed on certain (very limited) time frames for Senate and House business.

(Even then we have deal with the fact that the chambers themselves are built with public galleys/balconies so that the general public can come in off the street and watch public business talking place)

But the idea that the entire Capitol complex is closed to the people of the United States is suspect to say the least….certainly far outside the expectations of the Founding Fathers.

---

Serious response. You guys rail on personal responsibility, usually about finances because most on here are well off, how is this different?

You see the situation going south. There are Police barricades. People are breaking windows. People are scaling the walls, wearing military gear, waving Confederate flags. People popped smoke....

What do you do? Join the mob and go in? Or get out of there? Come on. It does not take military training to know to get away from that site! Go to any basic Krav Maga class, rule #1 get away from danger. Not tough stuff.

You join the mob, go inside take selfies while people are overrunning the Capital. You think this is the peoples house, they can't do anything? Or, no one will care that Congress had to be evacuated. Really, who f-ing thinks that way?

No, what this is about is these poor schmucks thought Donald was going to Pardon them all. They trusted Donald. He hung them out to dry. They now have criminal records while he walked away, covered himself with a BS "go peacefully", and turned it into a rally cry for 2024. These people believed in him, and he used them. You wonder why I hate Trump, look at Jan 6th and the aftermath for those people who believed in him. Most lives are at best set back and at worst ruined. He turned his back in a second, smirking...


You guys are villanizing law enforcement and the courts, they are doing their jobs. You CAN'T have Jan 6th and not come down hard. CIA guy knows that, but he likes Donald more than the poor schmucks Donald used.

Disagree, many do. Bannon has crafted a story these poor people want to believe.

---

I love how you throw in the Confederate flag like it's a bad thing.

It's a symbol of American state independence and resistance to Federal tyranny.

You seem to think it's big and scary…when its a symbol of protest…carried at a protest

---

So, how many events with people waving Confederate flags end well?

A little deflection because you know I am right...

---

Plenty end just fine

And it's no deflection….Confederate flags or no Confederate flags….American citizens have a right to protest.

At the Capitol or any other public place.

On Jan.6th or on any other day.

Its amazing how a right coded protest (vs the usually left coded protests) brings out the jackboots who want to see the State use power to crush dissidents

---

You can protest all you want. Just don't break into Federal Buildings and stop Government functions, like the CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTION! That is not a "protest", that is an illegal act.

---

How many of the protesters that day actually inferred in the certification process? 2 dozen? Less?

99% were charged for just entering the Capitol building and peacefully protesting…something that is their right.

---

You seriously believe that the people on the steps and inside the Capital should just walk? No harm, no foul... Let it go?

---

Absolutely,

Any citizen not engaged in violence should not be prosecuted.

It's a pubic building owned by the taxpayers

It's wild to me that you want Americans prosecuted by the State for the non-violent crime or protesting on the steps (or inside) their national capitol building….

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

We have basically transitioned to a full scale banana republic. We have fully weaponized the government to selectively enforce different laws. Between the January 6 hysterics to the lawfare launched against Donald Trump.

---

Let's cut out melodramatics, her kid had a kid. That doesn't give her the right to break law. What did she actually do in those 10 minutes and where was she. . Sick of the drama. .

---

She walked around the Capitol building…a public taxpayer owned building.

That's it

It's a building owned by the American people…not an imperial palace or some Chinese forbidden city.

Its Senate and Representative chambers are literally built with public balconies so that the public citizens can watch their servants carry out public business

---

.

You want to play games like it is a public building, Capitol Police said not to go in

---

No games…it's a serious question with constitutional implications.

When did we decided as a Nation that the people's house was off limits to the people?

Now maybe the Senate and House chambers specifically can maybe-perhaps be closed on certain (very limited) time frames for Senate and House business.

(Even then we have deal with the fact that the chambers themselves are built with public galleys/balconies so that the general public can come in off the street and watch public business talking place)

But the idea that the entire Capitol complex is closed to the people of the United States is suspect to say the least….certainly far outside the expectations of the Founding Fathers.

---

Serious response. You guys rail on personal responsibility, usually about finances because most on here are well off, how is this different?

You see the situation going south. There are Police barricades. People are breaking windows. People are scaling the walls, wearing military gear, waving Confederate flags. People popped smoke....

What do you do? Join the mob and go in? Or get out of there? Come on. It does not take military training to know to get away from that site! Go to any basic Krav Maga class, rule #1 get away from danger. Not tough stuff.

You join the mob, go inside take selfies while people are overrunning the Capital. You think this is the peoples house, they can't do anything? Or, no one will care that Congress had to be evacuated. Really, who f-ing thinks that way?

No, what this is about is these poor schmucks thought Donald was going to Pardon them all. They trusted Donald. He hung them out to dry. They now have criminal records while he walked away, covered himself with a BS "go peacefully", and turned it into a rally cry for 2024. These people believed in him, and he used them. You wonder why I hate Trump, look at Jan 6th and the aftermath for those people who believed in him. Most lives are at best set back and at worst ruined. He turned his back in a second, smirking...


You guys are villanizing law enforcement and the courts, they are doing their jobs. You CAN'T have Jan 6th and not come down hard. CIA guy knows that, but he likes Donald more than the poor schmucks Donald used.

Disagree, many do. Bannon has crafted a story these poor people want to believe.

---

I love how you throw in the Confederate flag like it's a bad thing.

It's a symbol of American state independence and resistance to Federal tyranny.

You seem to think it's big and scary…when its a symbol of protest…carried at a protest

---

So, how many events with people waving Confederate flags end well?

A little deflection because you know I am right...

---

Plenty end just fine

And it's no deflection….Confederate flags or no Confederate flags….American citizens have a right to protest.

At the Capitol or any other public place.

On Jan.6th or on any other day.

Its amazing how a right coded protest (vs the usually left coded protests) brings out the jackboots who want to see the State use power to crush dissidents

---

You can protest all you want. Just don't break into Federal Buildings and stop Government functions, like the CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTION! That is not a "protest", that is an illegal act.

---

How many of the protesters that day actually inferred in the certification process? 2 dozen? Less?

99% were charged for just entering the Capitol building and peacefully protesting…something that is their right.

---

You seriously believe that the people on the steps and inside the Capital should just walk? No harm, no foul... Let it go?

---

Absolutely,

Any citizen not engaged in violence should not be prosecuted.

It's a pubic building owned by the taxpayers

It's wild to me that you want Americans prosecuted by the State for the non-violent crime or protesting on the steps (or inside) their national capitol building….

---

If it was a normal day and the building was open, I agree.

The Building was closed and the Capital Police told them it was off limits. I would bet the vast majority that was just there and watched, not go in the building. Were not charged. Anyone that threatened or put security in a defensive position, should be charged.

After accusing Goodwyn of believing "disinformation" about the 2020 election and Jan 6, Walton--as is common among DC judges--offers his own set of lies about police conduct and fatalities tied to J6 including the myth about the untimely and tragic death of Brian Sicknick. pic.twitter.com/5SmexDpd2N

— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) April 6, 2024

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

We have basically transitioned to a full scale banana republic. We have fully weaponized the government to selectively enforce different laws. Between the January 6 hysterics to the lawfare launched against Donald Trump.

---

Let's cut out melodramatics, her kid had a kid. That doesn't give her the right to break law. What did she actually do in those 10 minutes and where was she. . Sick of the drama. .

---

She walked around the Capitol building…a public taxpayer owned building.

That's it

It's a building owned by the American people…not an imperial palace or some Chinese forbidden city.

Its Senate and Representative chambers are literally built with public balconies so that the public citizens can watch their servants carry out public business

---

.

You want to play games like it is a public building, Capitol Police said not to go in

---

No games…it's a serious question with constitutional implications.

When did we decided as a Nation that the people's house was off limits to the people?

Now maybe the Senate and House chambers specifically can maybe-perhaps be closed on certain (very limited) time frames for Senate and House business.

(Even then we have deal with the fact that the chambers themselves are built with public galleys/balconies so that the general public can come in off the street and watch public business talking place)

But the idea that the entire Capitol complex is closed to the people of the United States is suspect to say the least….certainly far outside the expectations of the Founding Fathers.

---

Serious response. You guys rail on personal responsibility, usually about finances because most on here are well off, how is this different?

You see the situation going south. There are Police barricades. People are breaking windows. People are scaling the walls, wearing military gear, waving Confederate flags. People popped smoke....

What do you do? Join the mob and go in? Or get out of there? Come on. It does not take military training to know to get away from that site! Go to any basic Krav Maga class, rule #1 get away from danger. Not tough stuff.

You join the mob, go inside take selfies while people are overrunning the Capital. You think this is the peoples house, they can't do anything? Or, no one will care that Congress had to be evacuated. Really, who f-ing thinks that way?

No, what this is about is these poor schmucks thought Donald was going to Pardon them all. They trusted Donald. He hung them out to dry. They now have criminal records while he walked away, covered himself with a BS "go peacefully", and turned it into a rally cry for 2024. These people believed in him, and he used them. You wonder why I hate Trump, look at Jan 6th and the aftermath for those people who believed in him. Most lives are at best set back and at worst ruined. He turned his back in a second, smirking...


You guys are villanizing law enforcement and the courts, they are doing their jobs. You CAN'T have Jan 6th and not come down hard. CIA guy knows that, but he likes Donald more than the poor schmucks Donald used.

Disagree, many do. Bannon has crafted a story these poor people want to believe.

---

I love how you throw in the Confederate flag like it's a bad thing.

It's a symbol of American state independence and resistance to Federal tyranny.

You seem to think it's big and scary…when its a symbol of protest…carried at a protest

---

So, how many events with people waving Confederate flags end well?

A little deflection because you know I am right...

---

Plenty end just fine

And it's no deflection….Confederate flags or no Confederate flags….American citizens have a right to protest.

At the Capitol or any other public place.

On Jan.6th or on any other day.

Its amazing how a right coded protest (vs the usually left coded protests) brings out the jackboots who want to see the State use power to crush dissidents

---

You can protest all you want. Just don't break into Federal Buildings and stop Government functions, like the CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTION! That is not a "protest", that is an illegal act.

---

How many of the protesters that day actually inferred in the certification process? 2 dozen? Less?

99% were charged for just entering the Capitol building and peacefully protesting…something that is their right.

---

You seriously believe that the people on the steps and inside the Capital should just walk? No harm, no foul... Let it go?

You seriously don't understand that the US Government HAS to come down hard on the behavior. That is a foreign concept to you? You honestly think they all should just walk. What percent of the total number that was there were charged? Trump has stated up to 80,000 people were there, I think closer to 30k, and 1250 were charged. How is that the Fed gone nuts?????

---

The criminals broke windows & attacked police. Patriots don't do that

Osodecentx said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

We have basically transitioned to a full scale banana republic. We have fully weaponized the government to selectively enforce different laws. Between the January 6 hysterics to the lawfare launched against Donald Trump.

---

Let's cut out melodramatics, her kid had a kid. That doesn't give her the right to break law. What did she actually do in those 10 minutes and where was she. . Sick of the drama. .

---

She walked around the Capitol building…a public taxpayer owned building.

That's it

It's a building owned by the American people…not an imperial palace or some Chinese forbidden city.

Its Senate and Representative chambers are literally built with public balconies so that the public citizens can watch their servants carry out public business

---

.

You want to play games like it is a public building, Capitol Police said not to go in

---

No games…it's a serious question with constitutional implications.

When did we decided as a Nation that the people's house was off limits to the people?

Now maybe the Senate and House chambers specifically can maybe-perhaps be closed on certain (very limited) time frames for Senate and House business.

(Even then we have deal with the fact that the chambers themselves are built with public galleys/balconies so that the general public can come in off the street and watch public business talking place)

But the idea that the entire Capitol complex is closed to the people of the United States is suspect to say the least….certainly far outside the expectations of the Founding Fathers.

---

Serious response. You guys rail on personal responsibility, usually about finances because most on here are well off, how is this different?

You see the situation going south. There are Police barricades. People are breaking windows. People are scaling the walls, wearing military gear, waving Confederate flags. People popped smoke....

What do you do? Join the mob and go in? Or get out of there? Come on. It does not take military training to know to get away from that site! Go to any basic Krav Maga class, rule #1 get away from danger. Not tough stuff.

You join the mob, go inside take selfies while people are overrunning the Capital. You think this is the peoples house, they can't do anything? Or, no one will care that Congress had to be evacuated. Really, who f-ing thinks that way?

No, what this is about is these poor schmucks thought Donald was going to Pardon them all. They trusted Donald. He hung them out to dry. They now have criminal records while he walked away, covered himself with a BS "go peacefully", and turned it into a rally cry for 2024. These people believed in him, and he used them. You wonder why I hate Trump, look at Jan 6th and the aftermath for those people who believed in him. Most lives are at best set back and at worst ruined. He turned his back in a second, smirking...


You guys are villanizing law enforcement and the courts, they are doing their jobs. You CAN'T have Jan 6th and not come down hard. CIA guy knows that, but he likes Donald more than the poor schmucks Donald used.

Disagree, many do. Bannon has crafted a story these poor people want to believe.

---

I love how you throw in the Confederate flag like it's a bad thing.

It's a symbol of American state independence and resistance to Federal tyranny.

You seem to think it's big and scary…when its a symbol of protest…carried at a protest

---

So, how many events with people waving Confederate flags end well?

A little deflection because you know I am right...

---

Plenty end just fine

And it's no deflection….Confederate flags or no Confederate flags….American citizens have a right to protest.

At the Capitol or any other public place.

On Jan.6th or on any other day.

Its amazing how a right coded protest (vs the usually left coded protests) brings out the jackboots who want to see the State use power to crush dissidents

---

You can protest all you want. Just don't break into Federal Buildings and stop Government functions, like the CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTION! That is not a "protest", that is an illegal act.

---

How many of the protesters that day actually inferred in the certification process? 2 dozen? Less?

99% were charged for just entering the Capitol building and peacefully protesting…something that is their right.

---

You seriously believe that the people on the steps and inside the Capital should just walk? No harm, no foul... Let it go?

You seriously don't understand that the US Government HAS to come down hard on the behavior. That is a foreign concept to you? You honestly think they all should just walk. What percent of the total number that was there were charged? Trump has stated up to 80,000 people were there, I think closer to 30k, and 1250 were charged. How is that the Fed gone nuts?????

---

The criminals broke windows & attacked police. Patriots don't do that

---

They don't?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Tree_Riot

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party

Jack and DP said:

---

Apply the law equally

ANTI-RELIGION: Pro Abortion protesters continue to protest directly outside of Brett Kavanaugh’s home last night attacking his Catholic faith by accusing him of being a “Christo Fascist” | @TPUSA pic.twitter.com/FXUcxz9QXl

— Drew Hernandez (@DrewHLive) June 23, 2022

---

Fascist protection using fascist tactics, although not necessarily as violent this time. The fascists have lots of violence in their recent history: BLM, antifa, etc.

Redbrickbear said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

We have basically transitioned to a full scale banana republic. We have fully weaponized the government to selectively enforce different laws. Between the January 6 hysterics to the lawfare launched against Donald Trump.

---

Let's cut out melodramatics, her kid had a kid. That doesn't give her the right to break law. What did she actually do in those 10 minutes and where was she. . Sick of the drama. .

---

She walked around the Capitol building…a public taxpayer owned building.

That's it

It's a building owned by the American people…not an imperial palace or some Chinese forbidden city.

Its Senate and Representative chambers are literally built with public balconies so that the public citizens can watch their servants carry out public business

---

.

You want to play games like it is a public building, Capitol Police said not to go in

---

No games…it's a serious question with constitutional implications.

When did we decided as a Nation that the people's house was off limits to the people?

Now maybe the Senate and House chambers specifically can maybe-perhaps be closed on certain (very limited) time frames for Senate and House business.

(Even then we have deal with the fact that the chambers themselves are built with public galleys/balconies so that the general public can come in off the street and watch public business talking place)

But the idea that the entire Capitol complex is closed to the people of the United States is suspect to say the least….certainly far outside the expectations of the Founding Fathers.

---

Serious response. You guys rail on personal responsibility, usually about finances because most on here are well off, how is this different?

You see the situation going south. There are Police barricades. People are breaking windows. People are scaling the walls, wearing military gear, waving Confederate flags. People popped smoke....

What do you do? Join the mob and go in? Or get out of there? Come on. It does not take military training to know to get away from that site! Go to any basic Krav Maga class, rule #1 get away from danger. Not tough stuff.

You join the mob, go inside take selfies while people are overrunning the Capital. You think this is the peoples house, they can't do anything? Or, no one will care that Congress had to be evacuated. Really, who f-ing thinks that way?

No, what this is about is these poor schmucks thought Donald was going to Pardon them all. They trusted Donald. He hung them out to dry. They now have criminal records while he walked away, covered himself with a BS "go peacefully", and turned it into a rally cry for 2024. These people believed in him, and he used them. You wonder why I hate Trump, look at Jan 6th and the aftermath for those people who believed in him. Most lives are at best set back and at worst ruined. He turned his back in a second, smirking...


You guys are villanizing law enforcement and the courts, they are doing their jobs. You CAN'T have Jan 6th and not come down hard. CIA guy knows that, but he likes Donald more than the poor schmucks Donald used.

Disagree, many do. Bannon has crafted a story these poor people want to believe.

---

I love how you throw in the Confederate flag like it's a bad thing.

It's a symbol of American state independence and resistance to Federal tyranny.

You seem to think it's big and scary…when its a symbol of protest…carried at a protest

---

So, how many events with people waving Confederate flags end well?

A little deflection because you know I am right...

---

Plenty end just fine

And it's no deflection….Confederate flags or no Confederate flags….American citizens have a right to protest.

At the Capitol or any other public place.

On Jan.6th or on any other day.

Its amazing how a right coded protest (vs the usually left coded protests) brings out the jackboots who want to see the State use power to crush dissidents

---

You can protest all you want. Just don't break into Federal Buildings and stop Government functions, like the CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTION! That is not a "protest", that is an illegal act.

---

How many of the protesters that day actually inferred in the certification process? 2 dozen? Less?

99% were charged for just entering the Capitol building and peacefully protesting…something that is their right.

---

You seriously believe that the people on the steps and inside the Capital should just walk? No harm, no foul... Let it go?

You seriously don't understand that the US Government HAS to come down hard on the behavior. That is a foreign concept to you? You honestly think they all should just walk. What percent of the total number that was there were charged? Trump has stated up to 80,000 people were there, I think closer to 30k, and 1250 were charged. How is that the Fed gone nuts?????

---

The criminals broke windows & attacked police. Patriots don't do that

---

They don't?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Tree_Riot

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party

---

You do realize that those that took part and caught were imprisoned and the others left Boston? The Government didn't just give a pass. There are always consequences, except in your world. In your world they should just be let go. Breaking in and forcing Congress out is a right? Not only a right, but immune from consequences no matter what they do. Just say protest...

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

We have basically transitioned to a full scale banana republic. We have fully weaponized the government to selectively enforce different laws. Between the January 6 hysterics to the lawfare launched against Donald Trump.

---

Let's cut out melodramatics, her kid had a kid. That doesn't give her the right to break law. What did she actually do in those 10 minutes and where was she. . Sick of the drama. .

---

She walked around the Capitol building…a public taxpayer owned building.

That's it

It's a building owned by the American people…not an imperial palace or some Chinese forbidden city.

Its Senate and Representative chambers are literally built with public balconies so that the public citizens can watch their servants carry out public business

---

.

You want to play games like it is a public building, Capitol Police said not to go in

---

No games…it's a serious question with constitutional implications.

When did we decided as a Nation that the people's house was off limits to the people?

Now maybe the Senate and House chambers specifically can maybe-perhaps be closed on certain (very limited) time frames for Senate and House business.

(Even then we have deal with the fact that the chambers themselves are built with public galleys/balconies so that the general public can come in off the street and watch public business talking place)

But the idea that the entire Capitol complex is closed to the people of the United States is suspect to say the least….certainly far outside the expectations of the Founding Fathers.

---

Serious response. You guys rail on personal responsibility, usually about finances because most on here are well off, how is this different?

You see the situation going south. There are Police barricades. People are breaking windows. People are scaling the walls, wearing military gear, waving Confederate flags. People popped smoke....

What do you do? Join the mob and go in? Or get out of there? Come on. It does not take military training to know to get away from that site! Go to any basic Krav Maga class, rule #1 get away from danger. Not tough stuff.

You join the mob, go inside take selfies while people are overrunning the Capital. You think this is the peoples house, they can't do anything? Or, no one will care that Congress had to be evacuated. Really, who f-ing thinks that way?

No, what this is about is these poor schmucks thought Donald was going to Pardon them all. They trusted Donald. He hung them out to dry. They now have criminal records while he walked away, covered himself with a BS "go peacefully", and turned it into a rally cry for 2024. These people believed in him, and he used them. You wonder why I hate Trump, look at Jan 6th and the aftermath for those people who believed in him. Most lives are at best set back and at worst ruined. He turned his back in a second, smirking...


You guys are villanizing law enforcement and the courts, they are doing their jobs. You CAN'T have Jan 6th and not come down hard. CIA guy knows that, but he likes Donald more than the poor schmucks Donald used.

Disagree, many do. Bannon has crafted a story these poor people want to believe.

---

I love how you throw in the Confederate flag like it's a bad thing.

It's a symbol of American state independence and resistance to Federal tyranny.

You seem to think it's big and scary…when its a symbol of protest…carried at a protest

---

So, how many events with people waving Confederate flags end well?

A little deflection because you know I am right...

---

Plenty end just fine

And it's no deflection….Confederate flags or no Confederate flags….American citizens have a right to protest.

At the Capitol or any other public place.

On Jan.6th or on any other day.

Its amazing how a right coded protest (vs the usually left coded protests) brings out the jackboots who want to see the State use power to crush dissidents

---

You can protest all you want. Just don't break into Federal Buildings and stop Government functions, like the CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTION! That is not a "protest", that is an illegal act.

---

How many of the protesters that day actually inferred in the certification process? 2 dozen? Less?

99% were charged for just entering the Capitol building and peacefully protesting…something that is their right.

---

You seriously believe that the people on the steps and inside the Capital should just walk? No harm, no foul... Let it go?

You seriously don't understand that the US Government HAS to come down hard on the behavior. That is a foreign concept to you? You honestly think they all should just walk. What percent of the total number that was there were charged? Trump has stated up to 80,000 people were there, I think closer to 30k, and 1250 were charged. How is that the Fed gone nuts?????

---

The criminals broke windows & attacked police. Patriots don't do that

---

They don't?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Tree_Riot

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party

---

You do realize that those that took part and caught were imprisoned and the others left Boston? The Government didn't just give a pass. There are always consequences, except in your world....

---

What is "my world"?

The point is that the Patriots were the original "rebels", "insurrectionists", and "secessionists" of their time…patriotism often means rebellion against central authority

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

We have basically transitioned to a full scale banana republic. We have fully weaponized the government to selectively enforce different laws. Between the January 6 hysterics to the lawfare launched against Donald Trump.

---

Let's cut out melodramatics, her kid had a kid. That doesn't give her the right to break law. What did she actually do in those 10 minutes and where was she. . Sick of the drama. .

---

She walked around the Capitol building…a public taxpayer owned building.

That's it

It's a building owned by the American people…not an imperial palace or some Chinese forbidden city.

Its Senate and Representative chambers are literally built with public balconies so that the public citizens can watch their servants carry out public business

---

.

You want to play games like it is a public building, Capitol Police said not to go in

---

No games…it's a serious question with constitutional implications.

When did we decided as a Nation that the people's house was off limits to the people?

Now maybe the Senate and House chambers specifically can maybe-perhaps be closed on certain (very limited) time frames for Senate and House business.

(Even then we have deal with the fact that the chambers themselves are built with public galleys/balconies so that the general public can come in off the street and watch public business talking place)

But the idea that the entire Capitol complex is closed to the people of the United States is suspect to say the least….certainly far outside the expectations of the Founding Fathers.

---

Serious response. You guys rail on personal responsibility, usually about finances because most on here are well off, how is this different?

You see the situation going south. There are Police barricades. People are breaking windows. People are scaling the walls, wearing military gear, waving Confederate flags. People popped smoke....

What do you do? Join the mob and go in? Or get out of there? Come on. It does not take military training to know to get away from that site! Go to any basic Krav Maga class, rule #1 get away from danger. Not tough stuff.

You join the mob, go inside take selfies while people are overrunning the Capital. You think this is the peoples house, they can't do anything? Or, no one will care that Congress had to be evacuated. Really, who f-ing thinks that way?

No, what this is about is these poor schmucks thought Donald was going to Pardon them all. They trusted Donald. He hung them out to dry. They now have criminal records while he walked away, covered himself with a BS "go peacefully", and turned it into a rally cry for 2024. These people believed in him, and he used them. You wonder why I hate Trump, look at Jan 6th and the aftermath for those people who believed in him. Most lives are at best set back and at worst ruined. He turned his back in a second, smirking...


You guys are villanizing law enforcement and the courts, they are doing their jobs. You CAN'T have Jan 6th and not come down hard. CIA guy knows that, but he likes Donald more than the poor schmucks Donald used.

Disagree, many do. Bannon has crafted a story these poor people want to believe.

---

I love how you throw in the Confederate flag like it's a bad thing.

It's a symbol of American state independence and resistance to Federal tyranny.

You seem to think it's big and scary…when its a symbol of protest…carried at a protest

---

So, how many events with people waving Confederate flags end well?

A little deflection because you know I am right...

---

Plenty end just fine

And it's no deflection….Confederate flags or no Confederate flags….American citizens have a right to protest.

At the Capitol or any other public place.

On Jan.6th or on any other day.

Its amazing how a right coded protest (vs the usually left coded protests) brings out the jackboots who want to see the State use power to crush dissidents

---

You can protest all you want. Just don't break into Federal Buildings and stop Government functions, like the CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTION! That is not a "protest", that is an illegal act.

---

How many of the protesters that day actually inferred in the certification process? 2 dozen? Less?

99% were charged for just entering the Capitol building and peacefully protesting…something that is their right.

---

You seriously believe that the people on the steps and inside the Capital should just walk? No harm, no foul... Let it go?

You seriously don't understand that the US Government HAS to come down hard on the behavior. That is a foreign concept to you? You honestly think they all should just walk. What percent of the total number that was there were charged? Trump has stated up to 80,000 people were there, I think closer to 30k, and 1250 were charged. How is that the Fed gone nuts?????

---

The criminals broke windows & attacked police. Patriots don't do that

---

They don't?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Tree_Riot

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party

---

You do realize that those that took part and caught were imprisoned and the others left Boston? The Government didn't just give a pass. There are always consequences, except in your world....

---

What is "my world"?

The point is that the Patriots were the original "rebels", "insurrectionists", and "secessionists" of their time…patriotism often means rebellion against central authority

---

Your world seems to be that breaking the law in the name of "protest" gives the person a pass from consequences.

This Baylor Board seems to be "personal accountability" unless it involves breaking the law either as a protest or you are Trump. Let some poor teacher making 48k take advantage of a Student Loan program or some 68 year old using MEDICARE and they are scumbag Libs sucking at the public teat. There is more to personal accountability than finances, I realize most on here excelled at Finances so they love making sure people are accountable to the penny. The other stuff, not so much...

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

We have basically transitioned to a full scale banana republic. We have fully weaponized the government to selectively enforce different laws. Between the January 6 hysterics to the lawfare launched against Donald Trump.

---

Let's cut out melodramatics, her kid had a kid. That doesn't give her the right to break law. What did she actually do in those 10 minutes and where was she. . Sick of the drama. .

---

She walked around the Capitol building…a public taxpayer owned building.

That's it

It's a building owned by the American people…not an imperial palace or some Chinese forbidden city.

Its Senate and Representative chambers are literally built with public balconies so that the public citizens can watch their servants carry out public business

---

.

You want to play games like it is a public building, Capitol Police said not to go in

---

No games…it's a serious question with constitutional implications.

When did we decided as a Nation that the people's house was off limits to the people?

Now maybe the Senate and House chambers specifically can maybe-perhaps be closed on certain (very limited) time frames for Senate and House business.

(Even then we have deal with the fact that the chambers themselves are built with public galleys/balconies so that the general public can come in off the street and watch public business talking place)

But the idea that the entire Capitol complex is closed to the people of the United States is suspect to say the least….certainly far outside the expectations of the Founding Fathers.

---

Serious response. You guys rail on personal responsibility, usually about finances because most on here are well off, how is this different?

You see the situation going south. There are Police barricades. People are breaking windows. People are scaling the walls, wearing military gear, waving Confederate flags. People popped smoke....

What do you do? Join the mob and go in? Or get out of there? Come on. It does not take military training to know to get away from that site! Go to any basic Krav Maga class, rule #1 get away from danger. Not tough stuff.

You join the mob, go inside take selfies while people are overrunning the Capital. You think this is the peoples house, they can't do anything? Or, no one will care that Congress had to be evacuated. Really, who f-ing thinks that way?

No, what this is about is these poor schmucks thought Donald was going to Pardon them all. They trusted Donald. He hung them out to dry. They now have criminal records while he walked away, covered himself with a BS "go peacefully", and turned it into a rally cry for 2024. These people believed in him, and he used them. You wonder why I hate Trump, look at Jan 6th and the aftermath for those people who believed in him. Most lives are at best set back and at worst ruined. He turned his back in a second, smirking...


You guys are villanizing law enforcement and the courts, they are doing their jobs. You CAN'T have Jan 6th and not come down hard. CIA guy knows that, but he likes Donald more than the poor schmucks Donald used.

Disagree, many do. Bannon has crafted a story these poor people want to believe.

---

I love how you throw in the Confederate flag like it's a bad thing.

It's a symbol of American state independence and resistance to Federal tyranny.

You seem to think it's big and scary…when its a symbol of protest…carried at a protest

---

So, how many events with people waving Confederate flags end well?

A little deflection because you know I am right...

---

Plenty end just fine

And it's no deflection….Confederate flags or no Confederate flags….American citizens have a right to protest.

At the Capitol or any other public place.

On Jan.6th or on any other day.

Its amazing how a right coded protest (vs the usually left coded protests) brings out the jackboots who want to see the State use power to crush dissidents

---

You can protest all you want. Just don't break into Federal Buildings and stop Government functions, like the CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTION! That is not a "protest", that is an illegal act.

---

How many of the protesters that day actually inferred in the certification process? 2 dozen? Less?

99% were charged for just entering the Capitol building and peacefully protesting…something that is their right.

---

You seriously believe that the people on the steps and inside the Capital should just walk? No harm, no foul... Let it go?

You seriously don't understand that the US Government HAS to come down hard on the behavior. That is a foreign concept to you? You honestly think they all should just walk. What percent of the total number that was there were charged? Trump has stated up to 80,000 people were there, I think closer to 30k, and 1250 were charged. How is that the Fed gone nuts?????

---

The criminals broke windows & attacked police. Patriots don't do that

---

They don't?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Tree_Riot

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party

---

You do realize that those that took part and caught were imprisoned and the others left Boston? The Government didn't just give a pass. There are always consequences, except in your world....

---

What is "my world"?

The point is that the Patriots were the original "rebels", "insurrectionists", and "secessionists" of their time…patriotism often means rebellion against central authority

---

Your world seems to be that breaking the law in the name of "protest" gives the person a pass from consequences.

...

---

I specifically said anyone engaging in violence against police should have been prosecuted. (Less than 5% of the people there on Jan.6)

I will never stop pointing out its wrong to prosecute American citizens for peaceful protest inside a publicly owned building where their government is located (95% of the people that day)

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

We have basically transitioned to a full scale banana republic. We have fully weaponized the government to selectively enforce different laws. Between the January 6 hysterics to the lawfare launched against Donald Trump.

---

Let's cut out melodramatics, her kid had a kid. That doesn't give her the right to break law. What did she actually do in those 10 minutes and where was she. . Sick of the drama. .

---

She walked around the Capitol building…a public taxpayer owned building.

That's it

It's a building owned by the American people…not an imperial palace or some Chinese forbidden city.

Its Senate and Representative chambers are literally built with public balconies so that the public citizens can watch their servants carry out public business

---

.

You want to play games like it is a public building, Capitol Police said not to go in

---

No games…it's a serious question with constitutional implications.

When did we decided as a Nation that the people's house was off limits to the people?

Now maybe the Senate and House chambers specifically can maybe-perhaps be closed on certain (very limited) time frames for Senate and House business.

(Even then we have deal with the fact that the chambers themselves are built with public galleys/balconies so that the general public can come in off the street and watch public business talking place)

But the idea that the entire Capitol complex is closed to the people of the United States is suspect to say the least….certainly far outside the expectations of the Founding Fathers.

---

Serious response. You guys rail on personal responsibility, usually about finances because most on here are well off, how is this different?

You see the situation going south. There are Police barricades. People are breaking windows. People are scaling the walls, wearing military gear, waving Confederate flags. People popped smoke....

What do you do? Join the mob and go in? Or get out of there? Come on. It does not take military training to know to get away from that site! Go to any basic Krav Maga class, rule #1 get away from danger. Not tough stuff.

You join the mob, go inside take selfies while people are overrunning the Capital. You think this is the peoples house, they can't do anything? Or, no one will care that Congress had to be evacuated. Really, who f-ing thinks that way?

No, what this is about is these poor schmucks thought Donald was going to Pardon them all. They trusted Donald. He hung them out to dry. They now have criminal records while he walked away, covered himself with a BS "go peacefully", and turned it into a rally cry for 2024. These people believed in him, and he used them. You wonder why I hate Trump, look at Jan 6th and the aftermath for those people who believed in him. Most lives are at best set back and at worst ruined. He turned his back in a second, smirking...


You guys are villanizing law enforcement and the courts, they are doing their jobs. You CAN'T have Jan 6th and not come down hard. CIA guy knows that, but he likes Donald more than the poor schmucks Donald used.

Disagree, many do. Bannon has crafted a story these poor people want to believe.

---

I love how you throw in the Confederate flag like it's a bad thing.

It's a symbol of American state independence and resistance to Federal tyranny.

You seem to think it's big and scary…when its a symbol of protest…carried at a protest

---

So, how many events with people waving Confederate flags end well?

A little deflection because you know I am right...

---

Plenty end just fine

And it's no deflection….Confederate flags or no Confederate flags….American citizens have a right to protest.

At the Capitol or any other public place.

On Jan.6th or on any other day.

Its amazing how a right coded protest (vs the usually left coded protests) brings out the jackboots who want to see the State use power to crush dissidents

---

You can protest all you want. Just don't break into Federal Buildings and stop Government functions, like the CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTION! That is not a "protest", that is an illegal act.

---

How many of the protesters that day actually inferred in the certification process? 2 dozen? Less?

99% were charged for just entering the Capitol building and peacefully protesting…something that is their right.

---

You seriously believe that the people on the steps and inside the Capital should just walk? No harm, no foul... Let it go?

You seriously don't understand that the US Government HAS to come down hard on the behavior. That is a foreign concept to you? You honestly think they all should just walk. What percent of the total number that was there were charged? Trump has stated up to 80,000 people were there, I think closer to 30k, and 1250 were charged. How is that the Fed gone nuts?????

---

The criminals broke windows & attacked police. Patriots don't do that

---

They don't?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Tree_Riot

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party

---

You do realize that those that took part and caught were imprisoned and the others left Boston? The Government didn't just give a pass. There are always consequences, except in your world....

---

What is "my world"?

The point is that the Patriots were the original "rebels", "insurrectionists", and "secessionists" of their time…patriotism often means rebellion against central authority

---

Your world seems to be that breaking the law in the name of "protest" gives the person a pass from consequences.

...

---

I specifically said anyone engaging in violence against police should have been prosecuted. (Less than 5% of the people there on Jan.6)

I will never stop pointing out its wrong to prosecute American citizens for peaceful protest inside a publicly owned building where their government is located (95% of the people that day)

---

You do realize that less that 5% of the people that were there were charged? The ones charged were inside the Capital after the Police barricades were overrun.

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

We have basically transitioned to a full scale banana republic. We have fully weaponized the government to selectively enforce different laws. Between the January 6 hysterics to the lawfare launched against Donald Trump.

---

Let's cut out melodramatics, her kid had a kid. That doesn't give her the right to break law. What did she actually do in those 10 minutes and where was she. . Sick of the drama. .

---

She walked around the Capitol building…a public taxpayer owned building.

That's it

It's a building owned by the American people…not an imperial palace or some Chinese forbidden city.

Its Senate and Representative chambers are literally built with public balconies so that the public citizens can watch their servants carry out public business

---

.

You want to play games like it is a public building, Capitol Police said not to go in

---

No games…it's a serious question with constitutional implications.

When did we decided as a Nation that the people's house was off limits to the people?

Now maybe the Senate and House chambers specifically can maybe-perhaps be closed on certain (very limited) time frames for Senate and House business.

(Even then we have deal with the fact that the chambers themselves are built with public galleys/balconies so that the general public can come in off the street and watch public business talking place)

But the idea that the entire Capitol complex is closed to the people of the United States is suspect to say the least….certainly far outside the expectations of the Founding Fathers.

---

Serious response. You guys rail on personal responsibility, usually about finances because most on here are well off, how is this different?

You see the situation going south. There are Police barricades. People are breaking windows. People are scaling the walls, wearing military gear, waving Confederate flags. People popped smoke....

What do you do? Join the mob and go in? Or get out of there? Come on. It does not take military training to know to get away from that site! Go to any basic Krav Maga class, rule #1 get away from danger. Not tough stuff.

You join the mob, go inside take selfies while people are overrunning the Capital. You think this is the peoples house, they can't do anything? Or, no one will care that Congress had to be evacuated. Really, who f-ing thinks that way?

No, what this is about is these poor schmucks thought Donald was going to Pardon them all. They trusted Donald. He hung them out to dry. They now have criminal records while he walked away, covered himself with a BS "go peacefully", and turned it into a rally cry for 2024. These people believed in him, and he used them. You wonder why I hate Trump, look at Jan 6th and the aftermath for those people who believed in him. Most lives are at best set back and at worst ruined. He turned his back in a second, smirking...


You guys are villanizing law enforcement and the courts, they are doing their jobs. You CAN'T have Jan 6th and not come down hard. CIA guy knows that, but he likes Donald more than the poor schmucks Donald used.

Disagree, many do. Bannon has crafted a story these poor people want to believe.

---

I love how you throw in the Confederate flag like it's a bad thing.

It's a symbol of American state independence and resistance to Federal tyranny.

You seem to think it's big and scary…when its a symbol of protest…carried at a protest

---

So, how many events with people waving Confederate flags end well?

A little deflection because you know I am right...

---

Plenty end just fine

And it's no deflection….Confederate flags or no Confederate flags….American citizens have a right to protest.

At the Capitol or any other public place.

On Jan.6th or on any other day.

Its amazing how a right coded protest (vs the usually left coded protests) brings out the jackboots who want to see the State use power to crush dissidents

---

You can protest all you want. Just don't break into Federal Buildings and stop Government functions, like the CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTION! That is not a "protest", that is an illegal act.

---

How many of the protesters that day actually inferred in the certification process? 2 dozen? Less?

99% were charged for just entering the Capitol building and peacefully protesting…something that is their right.

---

You seriously believe that the people on the steps and inside the Capital should just walk? No harm, no foul... Let it go?

You seriously don't understand that the US Government HAS to come down hard on the behavior. That is a foreign concept to you? You honestly think they all should just walk. What percent of the total number that was there were charged? Trump has stated up to 80,000 people were there, I think closer to 30k, and 1250 were charged. How is that the Fed gone nuts?????

---

The criminals broke windows & attacked police. Patriots don't do that

---

They don't?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Tree_Riot

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party

---

You do realize that those that took part and caught were imprisoned and the others left Boston? The Government didn't just give a pass. There are always consequences, except in your world....

---

What is "my world"?

The point is that the Patriots were the original "rebels", "insurrectionists", and "secessionists" of their time…patriotism often means rebellion against central authority

---

Your world seems to be that breaking the law in the name of "protest" gives the person a pass from consequences.

...

---

I specifically said anyone engaging in violence against police should have been prosecuted. (Less than 5% of the people there on Jan.6)

I will never stop pointing out its wrong to prosecute American citizens for peaceful protest inside a publicly owned building where their government is located (95% of the people that day)

---

You do realize that less that 5% of the people that were there were charged? The ones charged were inside the Capital after the Police barricades were overrun.

---

Entering the Capitol building is a non-violent crime.

No one should have been charged for that

Especially after all the rioters who went uncharged for all kinds of mayhem: arson, vandalism, theft, assault, etc. I'm not sure but there may have even been a few murders.

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

We have basically transitioned to a full scale banana republic. We have fully weaponized the government to selectively enforce different laws. Between the January 6 hysterics to the lawfare launched against Donald Trump.

---

Let's cut out melodramatics, her kid had a kid. That doesn't give her the right to break law. What did she actually do in those 10 minutes and where was she. . Sick of the drama. .

---

She walked around the Capitol building…a public taxpayer owned building.

That's it

It's a building owned by the American people…not an imperial palace or some Chinese forbidden city.

Its Senate and Representative chambers are literally built with public balconies so that the public citizens can watch their servants carry out public business

---

.

You want to play games like it is a public building, Capitol Police said not to go in

---

No games…it's a serious question with constitutional implications.

When did we decided as a Nation that the people's house was off limits to the people?

Now maybe the Senate and House chambers specifically can maybe-perhaps be closed on certain (very limited) time frames for Senate and House business.

(Even then we have deal with the fact that the chambers themselves are built with public galleys/balconies so that the general public can come in off the street and watch public business talking place)

But the idea that the entire Capitol complex is closed to the people of the United States is suspect to say the least….certainly far outside the expectations of the Founding Fathers.

---

Serious response. You guys rail on personal responsibility, usually about finances because most on here are well off, how is this different?

You see the situation going south. There are Police barricades. People are breaking windows. People are scaling the walls, wearing military gear, waving Confederate flags. People popped smoke....

What do you do? Join the mob and go in? Or get out of there? Come on. It does not take military training to know to get away from that site! Go to any basic Krav Maga class, rule #1 get away from danger. Not tough stuff.

You join the mob, go inside take selfies while people are overrunning the Capital. You think this is the peoples house, they can't do anything? Or, no one will care that Congress had to be evacuated. Really, who f-ing thinks that way?

No, what this is about is these poor schmucks thought Donald was going to Pardon them all. They trusted Donald. He hung them out to dry. They now have criminal records while he walked away, covered himself with a BS "go peacefully", and turned it into a rally cry for 2024. These people believed in him, and he used them. You wonder why I hate Trump, look at Jan 6th and the aftermath for those people who believed in him. Most lives are at best set back and at worst ruined. He turned his back in a second, smirking...


You guys are villanizing law enforcement and the courts, they are doing their jobs. You CAN'T have Jan 6th and not come down hard. CIA guy knows that, but he likes Donald more than the poor schmucks Donald used.

Disagree, many do. Bannon has crafted a story these poor people want to believe.

---

I love how you throw in the Confederate flag like it's a bad thing.

It's a symbol of American state independence and resistance to Federal tyranny.

You seem to think it's big and scary…when its a symbol of protest…carried at a protest

---

So, how many events with people waving Confederate flags end well?

A little deflection because you know I am right...

---

Plenty end just fine

And it's no deflection….Confederate flags or no Confederate flags….American citizens have a right to protest.

At the Capitol or any other public place.

On Jan.6th or on any other day.

Its amazing how a right coded protest (vs the usually left coded protests) brings out the jackboots who want to see the State use power to crush dissidents

---

You can protest all you want. Just don't break into Federal Buildings and stop Government functions, like the CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTION! That is not a "protest", that is an illegal act.

---

How many of the protesters that day actually inferred in the certification process? 2 dozen? Less?

99% were charged for just entering the Capitol building and peacefully protesting…something that is their right.

---

You seriously believe that the people on the steps and inside the Capital should just walk? No harm, no foul... Let it go?

You seriously don't understand that the US Government HAS to come down hard on the behavior. That is a foreign concept to you? You honestly think they all should just walk. What percent of the total number that was there were charged? Trump has stated up to 80,000 people were there, I think closer to 30k, and 1250 were charged. How is that the Fed gone nuts?????

---

Let me try to explain it to you. But I cannot understand it for you.

The problem than I and most have is the way January 6 is being used as political theater and the selective prosecutions.

The government is spending millions and locking people up for doing little more than walking through the Capitol. Meanwhile, myriad other criminals that actually committed serious crimes are not charged because of politics. More violence occurred in D.C. during Trump's inauguration and during Burn Loot Murder - remember when they fire-bombed a historic church? - but no one was charged. This is all just Stalin-style disinformation to get morons worked up.

If you actually think a senior citizen peacefully walking through the Capitol is a THREAT TO DEMOCRACY then you're lost intellectually and there is no way reason can impact your worldview.

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

We have basically transitioned to a full scale banana republic. We have fully weaponized the government to selectively enforce different laws. Between the January 6 hysterics to the lawfare launched against Donald Trump.

---

Let's cut out melodramatics, her kid had a kid. That doesn't give her the right to break law. What did she actually do in those 10 minutes and where was she. . Sick of the drama. .

---

She walked around the Capitol building…a public taxpayer owned building.

That's it

It's a building owned by the American people…not an imperial palace or some Chinese forbidden city.

Its Senate and Representative chambers are literally built with public balconies so that the public citizens can watch their servants carry out public business

---

.

You want to play games like it is a public building, Capitol Police said not to go in

---

No games…it's a serious question with constitutional implications.

When did we decided as a Nation that the people's house was off limits to the people?

Now maybe the Senate and House chambers specifically can maybe-perhaps be closed on certain (very limited) time frames for Senate and House business.

(Even then we have deal with the fact that the chambers themselves are built with public galleys/balconies so that the general public can come in off the street and watch public business talking place)

But the idea that the entire Capitol complex is closed to the people of the United States is suspect to say the least….certainly far outside the expectations of the Founding Fathers.

---

Serious response. You guys rail on personal responsibility, usually about finances because most on here are well off, how is this different?

You see the situation going south. There are Police barricades. People are breaking windows. People are scaling the walls, wearing military gear, waving Confederate flags. People popped smoke....

What do you do? Join the mob and go in? Or get out of there? Come on. It does not take military training to know to get away from that site! Go to any basic Krav Maga class, rule #1 get away from danger. Not tough stuff.

You join the mob, go inside take selfies while people are overrunning the Capital. You think this is the peoples house, they can't do anything? Or, no one will care that Congress had to be evacuated. Really, who f-ing thinks that way?

No, what this is about is these poor schmucks thought Donald was going to Pardon them all. They trusted Donald. He hung them out to dry. They now have criminal records while he walked away, covered himself with a BS "go peacefully", and turned it into a rally cry for 2024. These people believed in him, and he used them. You wonder why I hate Trump, look at Jan 6th and the aftermath for those people who believed in him. Most lives are at best set back and at worst ruined. He turned his back in a second, smirking...


You guys are villanizing law enforcement and the courts, they are doing their jobs. You CAN'T have Jan 6th and not come down hard. CIA guy knows that, but he likes Donald more than the poor schmucks Donald used.

Disagree, many do. Bannon has crafted a story these poor people want to believe.

---

I love how you throw in the Confederate flag like it's a bad thing.

It's a symbol of American state independence and resistance to Federal tyranny.

You seem to think it's big and scary…when its a symbol of protest…carried at a protest

---

So, how many events with people waving Confederate flags end well?

A little deflection because you know I am right...

---

Plenty end just fine

And it's no deflection….Confederate flags or no Confederate flags….American citizens have a right to protest.

At the Capitol or any other public place.

On Jan.6th or on any other day.

Its amazing how a right coded protest (vs the usually left coded protests) brings out the jackboots who want to see the State use power to crush dissidents

---

You can protest all you want. Just don't break into Federal Buildings and stop Government functions, like the CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTION! That is not a "protest", that is an illegal act.

---

How many of the protesters that day actually inferred in the certification process? 2 dozen? Less?

99% were charged for just entering the Capitol building and peacefully protesting…something that is their right.

---

You seriously believe that the people on the steps and inside the Capital should just walk? No harm, no foul... Let it go?

You seriously don't understand that the US Government HAS to come down hard on the behavior. That is a foreign concept to you? You honestly think they all should just walk. What percent of the total number that was there were charged? Trump has stated up to 80,000 people were there, I think closer to 30k, and 1250 were charged. How is that the Fed gone nuts?????

---

The criminals broke windows & attacked police. Patriots don't do that

---

They don't?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Tree_Riot

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party

---

You do realize that those that took part and caught were imprisoned and the others left Boston? The Government didn't just give a pass. There are always consequences, except in your world....

---

What is "my world"?

The point is that the Patriots were the original "rebels", "insurrectionists", and "secessionists" of their time…patriotism often means rebellion against central authority

---

Your world seems to be that breaking the law in the name of "protest" gives the person a pass from consequences.

...

---

I specifically said anyone engaging in violence against police should have been prosecuted. (Less than 5% of the people there on Jan.6)

I will never stop pointing out its wrong to prosecute American citizens for peaceful protest inside a publicly owned building where their government is located (95% of the people that day)

---

You do realize that less that 5% of the people that were there were charged? The ones charged were inside the Capital after the Police barricades were overrun.

---

Entering the Capitol building is a non-violent crime.

No one should have been charged for that

---

Do you believe that the Police have the Authority to close a Public Building? Do people have to listen to the Police or Federal Officers on Federal land??? A Wild Life Officer tells you you can't go by a geyser, sure you can you own the public land... Right? You don't have to leave a museum or historic site, it is public land. The "People's Parks"...

What you think SHOULD happen and law are two different things.

What you are condoning is a slippery slope. You agree this time with why they did it, next time when a different group does it?

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

We have basically transitioned to a full scale banana republic. We have fully weaponized the government to selectively enforce different laws. Between the January 6 hysterics to the lawfare launched against Donald Trump.

---

Let's cut out melodramatics, her kid had a kid. That doesn't give her the right to break law. What did she actually do in those 10 minutes and where was she. . Sick of the drama. .

---

She walked around the Capitol building…a public taxpayer owned building.

That's it

It's a building owned by the American people…not an imperial palace or some Chinese forbidden city.

Its Senate and Representative chambers are literally built with public balconies so that the public citizens can watch their servants carry out public business

---

.

You want to play games like it is a public building, Capitol Police said not to go in

---

No games…it's a serious question with constitutional implications.

When did we decided as a Nation that the people's house was off limits to the people?

Now maybe the Senate and House chambers specifically can maybe-perhaps be closed on certain (very limited) time frames for Senate and House business.

(Even then we have deal with the fact that the chambers themselves are built with public galleys/balconies so that the general public can come in off the street and watch public business talking place)

But the idea that the entire Capitol complex is closed to the people of the United States is suspect to say the least….certainly far outside the expectations of the Founding Fathers.

---

Serious response. You guys rail on personal responsibility, usually about finances because most on here are well off, how is this different?

You see the situation going south. There are Police barricades. People are breaking windows. People are scaling the walls, wearing military gear, waving Confederate flags. People popped smoke....

What do you do? Join the mob and go in? Or get out of there? Come on. It does not take military training to know to get away from that site! Go to any basic Krav Maga class, rule #1 get away from danger. Not tough stuff.

You join the mob, go inside take selfies while people are overrunning the Capital. You think this is the peoples house, they can't do anything? Or, no one will care that Congress had to be evacuated. Really, who f-ing thinks that way?

No, what this is about is these poor schmucks thought Donald was going to Pardon them all. They trusted Donald. He hung them out to dry. They now have criminal records while he walked away, covered himself with a BS "go peacefully", and turned it into a rally cry for 2024. These people believed in him, and he used them. You wonder why I hate Trump, look at Jan 6th and the aftermath for those people who believed in him. Most lives are at best set back and at worst ruined. He turned his back in a second, smirking...


You guys are villanizing law enforcement and the courts, they are doing their jobs. You CAN'T have Jan 6th and not come down hard. CIA guy knows that, but he likes Donald more than the poor schmucks Donald used.

Disagree, many do. Bannon has crafted a story these poor people want to believe.

---

I love how you throw in the Confederate flag like it's a bad thing.

It's a symbol of American state independence and resistance to Federal tyranny.

You seem to think it's big and scary…when its a symbol of protest…carried at a protest

---

So, how many events with people waving Confederate flags end well?

A little deflection because you know I am right...

---

Plenty end just fine

And it's no deflection….Confederate flags or no Confederate flags….American citizens have a right to protest.

At the Capitol or any other public place.

On Jan.6th or on any other day.

Its amazing how a right coded protest (vs the usually left coded protests) brings out the jackboots who want to see the State use power to crush dissidents

---

You can protest all you want. Just don't break into Federal Buildings and stop Government functions, like the CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTION! That is not a "protest", that is an illegal act.

---

How many of the protesters that day actually inferred in the certification process? 2 dozen? Less?

99% were charged for just entering the Capitol building and peacefully protesting…something that is their right.

---

You seriously believe that the people on the steps and inside the Capital should just walk? No harm, no foul... Let it go?

You seriously don't understand that the US Government HAS to come down hard on the behavior. That is a foreign concept to you? You honestly think they all should just walk. What percent of the total number that was there were charged? Trump has stated up to 80,000 people were there, I think closer to 30k, and 1250 were charged. How is that the Fed gone nuts?????

---

The criminals broke windows & attacked police. Patriots don't do that

---

They don't?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Tree_Riot

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party

---

You do realize that those that took part and caught were imprisoned and the others left Boston? The Government didn't just give a pass. There are always consequences, except in your world....

---

What is "my world"?

The point is that the Patriots were the original "rebels", "insurrectionists", and "secessionists" of their time…patriotism often means rebellion against central authority

---

Your world seems to be that breaking the law in the name of "protest" gives the person a pass from consequences.

...

---

I specifically said anyone engaging in violence against police should have been prosecuted. (Less than 5% of the people there on Jan.6)

I will never stop pointing out its wrong to prosecute American citizens for peaceful protest inside a publicly owned building where their government is located (95% of the people that day)

---

You do realize that less that 5% of the people that were there were charged? The ones charged were inside the Capital after the Police barricades were overrun.

---

Entering the Capitol building is a non-violent crime.

No one should have been charged for that

---

Do you believe that the Police have the Authority to close a Public Building? Do people have to listen to the Police or Federal Officers on Federal land??? A Wild Life Officer tells you you can't go by a geyser, sure you can you own the public land... Right? You don't have to leave a museum or historic site, it is public land. The "People's Parks"...

What you think SHOULD happen and law are two different things.

What you are condoning is a slippery slope. You agree this time with why they did it, next time when a different group does it?

---

1. The peoples house is different from a mere government department building.

The American people should not be barred from entering it to protest

2. We saw what happens with left coded groups riot and tear down statues….the charges get dropped

[The vast majority of citations and charges against George Floyd protesters were ultimately dropped, dismissed or otherwise not filed, according to a Guardian analysis of law enforcement records and media reports in a dozen jurisdictions around the nation]

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/17/george-floyd-protesters-charges-citations-analysis

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

We have basically transitioned to a full scale banana republic. We have fully weaponized the government to selectively enforce different laws. Between the January 6 hysterics to the lawfare launched against Donald Trump.

---

Let's cut out melodramatics, her kid had a kid. That doesn't give her the right to break law. What did she actually do in those 10 minutes and where was she. . Sick of the drama. .

---

She walked around the Capitol building…a public taxpayer owned building.

That's it

It's a building owned by the American people…not an imperial palace or some Chinese forbidden city.

Its Senate and Representative chambers are literally built with public balconies so that the public citizens can watch their servants carry out public business

---

.

You want to play games like it is a public building, Capitol Police said not to go in

---

No games…it's a serious question with constitutional implications.

When did we decided as a Nation that the people's house was off limits to the people?

Now maybe the Senate and House chambers specifically can maybe-perhaps be closed on certain (very limited) time frames for Senate and House business.

(Even then we have deal with the fact that the chambers themselves are built with public galleys/balconies so that the general public can come in off the street and watch public business talking place)

But the idea that the entire Capitol complex is closed to the people of the United States is suspect to say the least….certainly far outside the expectations of the Founding Fathers.

---

Serious response. You guys rail on personal responsibility, usually about finances because most on here are well off, how is this different?

You see the situation going south. There are Police barricades. People are breaking windows. People are scaling the walls, wearing military gear, waving Confederate flags. People popped smoke....

What do you do? Join the mob and go in? Or get out of there? Come on. It does not take military training to know to get away from that site! Go to any basic Krav Maga class, rule #1 get away from danger. Not tough stuff.

You join the mob, go inside take selfies while people are overrunning the Capital. You think this is the peoples house, they can't do anything? Or, no one will care that Congress had to be evacuated. Really, who f-ing thinks that way?

No, what this is about is these poor schmucks thought Donald was going to Pardon them all. They trusted Donald. He hung them out to dry. They now have criminal records while he walked away, covered himself with a BS "go peacefully", and turned it into a rally cry for 2024. These people believed in him, and he used them. You wonder why I hate Trump, look at Jan 6th and the aftermath for those people who believed in him. Most lives are at best set back and at worst ruined. He turned his back in a second, smirking...


You guys are villanizing law enforcement and the courts, they are doing their jobs. You CAN'T have Jan 6th and not come down hard. CIA guy knows that, but he likes Donald more than the poor schmucks Donald used.

Disagree, many do. Bannon has crafted a story these poor people want to believe.

---

I love how you throw in the Confederate flag like it's a bad thing.

It's a symbol of American state independence and resistance to Federal tyranny.

You seem to think it's big and scary…when its a symbol of protest…carried at a protest

---

So, how many events with people waving Confederate flags end well?

A little deflection because you know I am right...

---

Plenty end just fine

And it's no deflection….Confederate flags or no Confederate flags….American citizens have a right to protest.

At the Capitol or any other public place.

On Jan.6th or on any other day.

Its amazing how a right coded protest (vs the usually left coded protests) brings out the jackboots who want to see the State use power to crush dissidents

---

You can protest all you want. Just don't break into Federal Buildings and stop Government functions, like the CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTION! That is not a "protest", that is an illegal act.

---

How many of the protesters that day actually inferred in the certification process? 2 dozen? Less?

99% were charged for just entering the Capitol building and peacefully protesting…something that is their right.

---

You seriously believe that the people on the steps and inside the Capital should just walk? No harm, no foul... Let it go?

You seriously don't understand that the US Government HAS to come down hard on the behavior. That is a foreign concept to you? You honestly think they all should just walk. What percent of the total number that was there were charged? Trump has stated up to 80,000 people were there, I think closer to 30k, and 1250 were charged. How is that the Fed gone nuts?????

---

The criminals broke windows & attacked police. Patriots don't do that

---

They don't?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Tree_Riot

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party

---

You do realize that those that took part and caught were imprisoned and the others left Boston? The Government didn't just give a pass. There are always consequences, except in your world....

---

What is "my world"?

The point is that the Patriots were the original "rebels", "insurrectionists", and "secessionists" of their time…patriotism often means rebellion against central authority

---

Your world seems to be that breaking the law in the name of "protest" gives the person a pass from consequences.

...

---

I specifically said anyone engaging in violence against police should have been prosecuted. (Less than 5% of the people there on Jan.6)

I will never stop pointing out its wrong to prosecute American citizens for peaceful protest inside a publicly owned building where their government is located (95% of the people that day)

---

You do realize that less that 5% of the people that were there were charged? The ones charged were inside the Capital after the Police barricades were overrun.

---

Entering the Capitol building is a non-violent crime.

No one should have been charged for that

---

Do you believe that the Police have the Authority to close a Public Building? Do people have to listen to the Police or Federal Officers on Federal land??? A Wild Life Officer tells you you can't go by a geyser, sure you can you own the public land... Right? You don't have to leave a museum or historic site, it is public land. The "People's Parks"...

What you think SHOULD happen and law are two different things.

What you are condoning is a slippery slope. You agree this time with why they did it, next time when a different group does it?

---

1. The peoples house is different from a mere government department building.

The American people should not be barred from entering it to protest

2. We saw what happens with left coded groups riot and tear down statues….the charges get dropped

[The vast majority of citations and charges against George Floyd protesters were ultimately dropped, dismissed or otherwise not filed, according to a Guardian analysis of law enforcement records and media reports in a dozen jurisdictions around the nation]

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/17/george-floyd-protesters-charges-citations-analysis

---

Funny, "Peoples House" wasn't a term used to describe the Capital until Pelosi and Pence used it! The Peoples House was the White House. Even so, the Capital has not been open 24/7 for over 70 years. None of the Federal properties are open and the Capital is always closed for joint sessions. This peoples house open all the time is BS.

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

We have basically transitioned to a full scale banana republic. We have fully weaponized the government to selectively enforce different laws. Between the January 6 hysterics to the lawfare launched against Donald Trump.

---

Let's cut out melodramatics, her kid had a kid. That doesn't give her the right to break law. What did she actually do in those 10 minutes and where was she. . Sick of the drama. .

---

She walked around the Capitol building…a public taxpayer owned building.

That's it

It's a building owned by the American people…not an imperial palace or some Chinese forbidden city.

Its Senate and Representative chambers are literally built with public balconies so that the public citizens can watch their servants carry out public business

---

.

You want to play games like it is a public building, Capitol Police said not to go in

---

No games…it's a serious question with constitutional implications.

When did we decided as a Nation that the people's house was off limits to the people?

Now maybe the Senate and House chambers specifically can maybe-perhaps be closed on certain (very limited) time frames for Senate and House business.

(Even then we have deal with the fact that the chambers themselves are built with public galleys/balconies so that the general public can come in off the street and watch public business talking place)

But the idea that the entire Capitol complex is closed to the people of the United States is suspect to say the least….certainly far outside the expectations of the Founding Fathers.

---

Serious response. You guys rail on personal responsibility, usually about finances because most on here are well off, how is this different?

You see the situation going south. There are Police barricades. People are breaking windows. People are scaling the walls, wearing military gear, waving Confederate flags. People popped smoke....

What do you do? Join the mob and go in? Or get out of there? Come on. It does not take military training to know to get away from that site! Go to any basic Krav Maga class, rule #1 get away from danger. Not tough stuff.

You join the mob, go inside take selfies while people are overrunning the Capital. You think this is the peoples house, they can't do anything? Or, no one will care that Congress had to be evacuated. Really, who f-ing thinks that way?

No, what this is about is these poor schmucks thought Donald was going to Pardon them all. They trusted Donald. He hung them out to dry. They now have criminal records while he walked away, covered himself with a BS "go peacefully", and turned it into a rally cry for 2024. These people believed in him, and he used them. You wonder why I hate Trump, look at Jan 6th and the aftermath for those people who believed in him. Most lives are at best set back and at worst ruined. He turned his back in a second, smirking...


You guys are villanizing law enforcement and the courts, they are doing their jobs. You CAN'T have Jan 6th and not come down hard. CIA guy knows that, but he likes Donald more than the poor schmucks Donald used.

Disagree, many do. Bannon has crafted a story these poor people want to believe.

---

I love how you throw in the Confederate flag like it's a bad thing.

It's a symbol of American state independence and resistance to Federal tyranny.

You seem to think it's big and scary…when its a symbol of protest…carried at a protest

---

So, how many events with people waving Confederate flags end well?

A little deflection because you know I am right...

---

Plenty end just fine

And it's no deflection….Confederate flags or no Confederate flags….American citizens have a right to protest.

At the Capitol or any other public place.

On Jan.6th or on any other day.

Its amazing how a right coded protest (vs the usually left coded protests) brings out the jackboots who want to see the State use power to crush dissidents

---

You can protest all you want. Just don't break into Federal Buildings and stop Government functions, like the CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTION! That is not a "protest", that is an illegal act.

---

How many of the protesters that day actually inferred in the certification process? 2 dozen? Less?

99% were charged for just entering the Capitol building and peacefully protesting…something that is their right.

---

You seriously believe that the people on the steps and inside the Capital should just walk? No harm, no foul... Let it go?

You seriously don't understand that the US Government HAS to come down hard on the behavior. That is a foreign concept to you? You honestly think they all should just walk. What percent of the total number that was there were charged? Trump has stated up to 80,000 people were there, I think closer to 30k, and 1250 were charged. How is that the Fed gone nuts?????

---

The criminals broke windows & attacked police. Patriots don't do that

---

They don't?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Tree_Riot

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party

---

You do realize that those that took part and caught were imprisoned and the others left Boston? The Government didn't just give a pass. There are always consequences, except in your world....

---

What is "my world"?

The point is that the Patriots were the original "rebels", "insurrectionists", and "secessionists" of their time…patriotism often means rebellion against central authority

---

Your world seems to be that breaking the law in the name of "protest" gives the person a pass from consequences.

...

---

I specifically said anyone engaging in violence against police should have been prosecuted. (Less than 5% of the people there on Jan.6)

I will never stop pointing out its wrong to prosecute American citizens for peaceful protest inside a publicly owned building where their government is located (95% of the people that day)

---

You do realize that less that 5% of the people that were there were charged? The ones charged were inside the Capital after the Police barricades were overrun.

---

Entering the Capitol building is a non-violent crime.

No one should have been charged for that

---

Do you believe that the Police have the Authority to close a Public Building? Do people have to listen to the Police or Federal Officers on Federal land??? A Wild Life Officer tells you you can't go by a geyser, sure you can you own the public land... Right? You don't have to leave a museum or historic site, it is public land. The "People's Parks"...

What you think SHOULD happen and law are two different things.

What you are condoning is a slippery slope. You agree this time with why they did it, next time when a different group does it?

---

1. The peoples house is different from a mere government department building.

The American people should not be barred from entering it to protest

2. We saw what happens with left coded groups riot and tear down statues….the charges get dropped

[The vast majority of citations and charges against George Floyd protesters were ultimately dropped, dismissed or otherwise not filed, according to a Guardian analysis of law enforcement records and media reports in a dozen jurisdictions around the nation]

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/17/george-floyd-protesters-charges-citations-analysis

---

Funny, "Peoples House" wasn't a term used to describe the Capital until Pelosi and Pence used it! The Peoples House was the White House. Even so, the Capital has not been open 24/7 for over 70 years. None of the Federal properties are open and the Capital is always closed for joint sessions. This peoples house open all the time is BS.

---

It's not BS…it's position and an opinion.

It's the national capitol building and owned by the taxpayers.

It should be open for the taxpayers to visit or protest in as they see fit.

As it was 70 years ago before DC began to take on an increasingly imperial character.

(Now certain chambers might be closed to the pubic for very short periods…but never the entire building)

We are quibbling about details. The Capitol might have been closed on J6 but the Capitol Police opened the doors for the protestors & even escorted some inside. I've seen the video of the guy with the crazy costume walking through the hallway with a police escort. He was not cuffed or under arrest. He looked like he was being given a guided tour.

Many of the charges against these people are bogus and clearly politically motivated, especially when contrasted with the months of rioting that preceded J6 with few if any investigations, arrests, or imprisonments. Plus, the FBI was there in force (& maybe the CIA) instigating the melee to create something more. Trump tried to send the National Guard but Pelosi refused. She's possibly as guilty of crime as anyone else who was there. Much of it was a set up.

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

We have basically transitioned to a full scale banana republic. We have fully weaponized the government to selectively enforce different laws. Between the January 6 hysterics to the lawfare launched against Donald Trump.

---

Let's cut out melodramatics, her kid had a kid. That doesn't give her the right to break law. What did she actually do in those 10 minutes and where was she. . Sick of the drama. .

---

She walked around the Capitol building…a public taxpayer owned building.

That's it

It's a building owned by the American people…not an imperial palace or some Chinese forbidden city.

Its Senate and Representative chambers are literally built with public balconies so that the public citizens can watch their servants carry out public business

---

.

You want to play games like it is a public building, Capitol Police said not to go in

---

No games…it's a serious question with constitutional implications.

When did we decided as a Nation that the people's house was off limits to the people?

Now maybe the Senate and House chambers specifically can maybe-perhaps be closed on certain (very limited) time frames for Senate and House business.

(Even then we have deal with the fact that the chambers themselves are built with public galleys/balconies so that the general public can come in off the street and watch public business talking place)

But the idea that the entire Capitol complex is closed to the people of the United States is suspect to say the least….certainly far outside the expectations of the Founding Fathers.

---

Serious response. You guys rail on personal responsibility, usually about finances because most on here are well off, how is this different?

You see the situation going south. There are Police barricades. People are breaking windows. People are scaling the walls, wearing military gear, waving Confederate flags. People popped smoke....

What do you do? Join the mob and go in? Or get out of there? Come on. It does not take military training to know to get away from that site! Go to any basic Krav Maga class, rule #1 get away from danger. Not tough stuff.

You join the mob, go inside take selfies while people are overrunning the Capital. You think this is the peoples house, they can't do anything? Or, no one will care that Congress had to be evacuated. Really, who f-ing thinks that way?

No, what this is about is these poor schmucks thought Donald was going to Pardon them all. They trusted Donald. He hung them out to dry. They now have criminal records while he walked away, covered himself with a BS "go peacefully", and turned it into a rally cry for 2024. These people believed in him, and he used them. You wonder why I hate Trump, look at Jan 6th and the aftermath for those people who believed in him. Most lives are at best set back and at worst ruined. He turned his back in a second, smirking...


You guys are villanizing law enforcement and the courts, they are doing their jobs. You CAN'T have Jan 6th and not come down hard. CIA guy knows that, but he likes Donald more than the poor schmucks Donald used.

Disagree, many do. Bannon has crafted a story these poor people want to believe.

---

I love how you throw in the Confederate flag like it's a bad thing.

It's a symbol of American state independence and resistance to Federal tyranny.

You seem to think it's big and scary…when its a symbol of protest…carried at a protest

---

So, how many events with people waving Confederate flags end well?

A little deflection because you know I am right...

---

Plenty end just fine

And it's no deflection….Confederate flags or no Confederate flags….American citizens have a right to protest.

At the Capitol or any other public place.

On Jan.6th or on any other day.

Its amazing how a right coded protest (vs the usually left coded protests) brings out the jackboots who want to see the State use power to crush dissidents

---

You can protest all you want. Just don't break into Federal Buildings and stop Government functions, like the CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTION! That is not a "protest", that is an illegal act.

---

How many of the protesters that day actually inferred in the certification process? 2 dozen? Less?

99% were charged for just entering the Capitol building and peacefully protesting…something that is their right.

---

You seriously believe that the people on the steps and inside the Capital should just walk? No harm, no foul... Let it go?

You seriously don't understand that the US Government HAS to come down hard on the behavior. That is a foreign concept to you? You honestly think they all should just walk. What percent of the total number that was there were charged? Trump has stated up to 80,000 people were there, I think closer to 30k, and 1250 were charged. How is that the Fed gone nuts?????

---

The criminals broke windows & attacked police. Patriots don't do that

---

They don't?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Tree_Riot

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party

---

You do realize that those that took part and caught were imprisoned and the others left Boston? The Government didn't just give a pass. There are always consequences, except in your world....

---

What is "my world"?

The point is that the Patriots were the original "rebels", "insurrectionists", and "secessionists" of their time…patriotism often means rebellion against central authority

---

Your world seems to be that breaking the law in the name of "protest" gives the person a pass from consequences.

...

---

I specifically said anyone engaging in violence against police should have been prosecuted. (Less than 5% of the people there on Jan.6)

I will never stop pointing out its wrong to prosecute American citizens for peaceful protest inside a publicly owned building where their government is located (95% of the people that day)

---

You do realize that less that 5% of the people that were there were charged? The ones charged were inside the Capital after the Police barricades were overrun.

---

Entering the Capitol building is a non-violent crime.

No one should have been charged for that

---

Do you believe that the Police have the Authority to close a Public Building? Do people have to listen to the Police or Federal Officers on Federal land??? A Wild Life Officer tells you you can't go by a geyser, sure you can you own the public land... Right? You don't have to leave a museum or historic site, it is public land. The "People's Parks"...

What you think SHOULD happen and law are two different things.

What you are condoning is a slippery slope. You agree this time with why they did it, next time when a different group does it?

---

1. The peoples house is different from a mere government department building.

The American people should not be barred from entering it to protest

2. We saw what happens with left coded groups riot and tear down statues….the charges get dropped

[The vast majority of citations and charges against George Floyd protesters were ultimately dropped, dismissed or otherwise not filed, according to a Guardian analysis of law enforcement records and media reports in a dozen jurisdictions around the nation]

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/17/george-floyd-protesters-charges-citations-analysis

---

Funny, "Peoples House" wasn't a term used to describe the Capital until Pelosi and Pence used it! The Peoples House was the White House. Even so, the Capital has not been open 24/7 for over 70 years. None of the Federal properties are open and the Capital is always closed for joint sessions. This peoples house open all the time is BS.

---

It's not BS…it's position and an opinion.

It's the national capitol building and owned by the taxpayers.

It should be open for the taxpayers to visit or protest in as they see fit.

As it was 70 years ago before DC began to take on an increasingly imperial character.

(Now certain chambers might be closed to the pubic for very short periods…but never the entire building)

---

You really believe that the Capital should be open all the time. That the Capital Police should not be able to close the building under any circumstances, even if Congress is in session?

A nation of 365M, post-911. Should we still put a big wheel of cheese out on January 21st?

The Capitol Police opened the doors and escorted American citizens through the building.

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Redbrickbear said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

We have basically transitioned to a full scale banana republic. We have fully weaponized the government to selectively enforce different laws. Between the January 6 hysterics to the lawfare launched against Donald Trump.

---

Let's cut out melodramatics, her kid had a kid. That doesn't give her the right to break law. What did she actually do in those 10 minutes and where was she. . Sick of the drama. .

---

She walked around the Capitol building…a public taxpayer owned building.

That's it

It's a building owned by the American people…not an imperial palace or some Chinese forbidden city.

Its Senate and Representative chambers are literally built with public balconies so that the public citizens can watch their servants carry out public business

---

.

You want to play games like it is a public building, Capitol Police said not to go in

---

No games…it's a serious question with constitutional implications.

When did we decided as a Nation that the people's house was off limits to the people?

Now maybe the Senate and House chambers specifically can maybe-perhaps be closed on certain (very limited) time frames for Senate and House business.

(Even then we have deal with the fact that the chambers themselves are built with public galleys/balconies so that the general public can come in off the street and watch public business talking place)

But the idea that the entire Capitol complex is closed to the people of the United States is suspect to say the least….certainly far outside the expectations of the Founding Fathers.

---

Serious response. You guys rail on personal responsibility, usually about finances because most on here are well off, how is this different?

You see the situation going south. There are Police barricades. People are breaking windows. People are scaling the walls, wearing military gear, waving Confederate flags. People popped smoke....

What do you do? Join the mob and go in? Or get out of there? Come on. It does not take military training to know to get away from that site! Go to any basic Krav Maga class, rule #1 get away from danger. Not tough stuff.

You join the mob, go inside take selfies while people are overrunning the Capital. You think this is the peoples house, they can't do anything? Or, no one will care that Congress had to be evacuated. Really, who f-ing thinks that way?

No, what this is about is these poor schmucks thought Donald was going to Pardon them all. They trusted Donald. He hung them out to dry. They now have criminal records while he walked away, covered himself with a BS "go peacefully", and turned it into a rally cry for 2024. These people believed in him, and he used them. You wonder why I hate Trump, look at Jan 6th and the aftermath for those people who believed in him. Most lives are at best set back and at worst ruined. He turned his back in a second, smirking...


You guys are villanizing law enforcement and the courts, they are doing their jobs. You CAN'T have Jan 6th and not come down hard. CIA guy knows that, but he likes Donald more than the poor schmucks Donald used.

Disagree, many do. Bannon has crafted a story these poor people want to believe.

---

I love how you throw in the Confederate flag like it's a bad thing.

It's a symbol of American state independence and resistance to Federal tyranny.

You seem to think it's big and scary…when its a symbol of protest…carried at a protest

---

So the kk is open for business

Redbrickbear said:

---

After accusing Goodwyn of believing "disinformation" about the 2020 election and Jan 6, Walton--as is common among DC judges--offers his own set of lies about police conduct and fatalities tied to J6 including the myth about the untimely and tragic death of Brian Sicknick. pic.twitter.com/5SmexDpd2N

— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) April 6, 2024

---

Irony abounds. I had forgotten about the Brian Siknick Big Lie.

The reason many moderates do not trust you is because you're untrustworthy.

This is really simple: If January 6 was an actual THREAT TO DEMOCRACY like the LARPers claim, then charge everyone with treason and hang them on the steps of the Capitol if convicted. Otherwise, treat them equally to every other LWNJ that trespassed in the Capitol or attacked other federal buildings (looking at you Portland).

historian said:

---

The Capitol Police opened the doors and escorted American citizens through the building.

---

If only there was video footage.

historian said:

---

The Capitol Police opened the doors and escorted American citizens through the building.

---

You did see the Capital Police Chief testimony under oath on that? They broke through a baracade before the Police backed off. The Police were outnumbered 100 to 1. So, I guess iwhen we retreat we are legally allowing them to cross a border???

Using your logic, the "illegals" at the Border are not illegal. They were let in. They were released from facilities so they are good to be here. No legal charges can be made. After all, they were let in... Ridiculous.



PolitiFact | Ask PolitiFact: Did Capitol Police let mob of Trump supporters in?

FLBear5630 said:

---

historian said:

---

The Capitol Police opened the doors and escorted American citizens through the building.

---

You did see the Capital Police Chief testimony under oath on that? They broke through a baracade before the Police backed off. The Police were outnumbered 100 to 1. So, I guess iwhen we retreat we are legally allowing them to cross a border???

Using your logic, the "illegals" at the Border are not illegal. They were let in. They were released from facilities so they are good to be here. No legal charges can be made. After all, they were let in... Ridiculous.



PolitiFact | Ask PolitiFact: Did Capitol Police let mob of Trump supporters in?

---

This is the sane Capitol Policeman that claimed he was attacked and yet he is clearly seen on video never once attacked. Do you think the videos of the Capitol Police opening the doors and letting in protesters are deep fakes?

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

FLBear5630 said:

---

historian said:

---

The Capitol Police opened the doors and escorted American citizens through the building.

---

You did see the Capital Police Chief testimony under oath on that? They broke through a baracade before the Police backed off. The Police were outnumbered 100 to 1. So, I guess iwhen we retreat we are legally allowing them to cross a border???

Using your logic, the "illegals" at the Border are not illegal. They were let in. They were released from facilities so they are good to be here. No legal charges can be made. After all, they were let in... Ridiculous.



PolitiFact | Ask PolitiFact: Did Capitol Police let mob of Trump supporters in?

---

This is the sane Capitol Policeman that claimed he was attacked and yet he is clearly seen on video never once attacked. Do you think the videos of the Capitol Police opening the doors and letting in protesters are deep fakes?

---

The building was closed, period. First because of the Pandemic and Second because of the Joint Session of Congress. There were Barricades they had to go through to get in. They were told not to enter.

I really do not get the big mystery here. What Nation can allow an overrun of its Capital with the Legislative Body actively Certifying the election and say after the riot: "It's OK, no charges"?????? What the Hell did they expect would happen? Everyone on Jan 6th KNEW the Feds HAVE to throw the book at them and make it so no one wants to do that again.