Elon, Vivek & the D.O.G.E.

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historian
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I never said it was easy. I don't know if anyone who did. Doing something really important rarely is, especially doing it correctly.

TBH, smaller government is desirable on its own merits. A govt that understands its constitutional role accurately and doesn't try to be everyone's "sugar daddy" is one that will actually pursue justice and won't be a threat to the people. That's why the Founding Fathers created for us a republic. "If you can keep it," Ben Franklin said after the constitutional convention.

FTR, I think we agree most of the time, at least from what I've seen of your posts.
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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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bearassnekkid said:

J.R. said:

historian said:

boognish_bear said:



Great idea but make it 10%

Ultimately, I'd like to see the income tax abolished completely. It was never a good idea, makes government more tyrannical, & encourages government to spend too much money on worthless garbage. Ideally, it's none of their business how much money you make.

However, I don't really believe it will happen since it would require a constitutional amendment to repeal the 16th & 75% of the states to ratify. More than 80% of states have their own income taxes and those politicians will not want to kill the cash cow. It also would require lots of people to rethink how things are done: what government does & its relationship to citizens.
Everyone would love to see the IT abolished, but that is fantasy. How would the govt function? Listening.
Tax consumption instead of income. You keep 100% of your pay. You pay taxes when you buy stuff. Wealthy people pay more tax because they buy more. The collection mechanism is already in place because we already collect state sales tax at transactions. The math is feasible and has been worked out. Of course it should also come in conjunction with massive government spending cuts, but that should be true regardless of the taxation/collection method.
Huge difference between totally abolishing the IT (Ludicris) . A flat consumption tax has always made entirely too much sense to me. However, I don't think it would ever happen. Accounting and other lobbies will come out of the woodwork .
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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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nein51 said:

According to SBA (consider the source) 99.9% of US businesses are small business which is fewer than 500 employees.

97.5% have fewer than 100 employees.

I often hear people like me say "I shouldn't be responsible for collecting the states money" and I understand why. We are militant about our taxes because I don't want to go to jail but I can tell you we are definitely in the minority.

I had one guy tell me "how would I afford my boat if I paid my sales taxes correctly". lol
Same way he pays his state sales tax, FICA, and withholding obligations. Upon collection of revenues, he deposits the tax obligation into a different account(s) than the one he operates his business on. That's what I did. Don't you?

Nearly all of these small businesses of any consequence at all are already doing what is required. Very little extra effort here.
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whiterock said:

nein51 said:

According to SBA (consider the source) 99.9% of US businesses are small business which is fewer than 500 employees.

97.5% have fewer than 100 employees.

I often hear people like me say "I shouldn't be responsible for collecting the states money" and I understand why. We are militant about our taxes because I don't want to go to jail but I can tell you we are definitely in the minority.

I had one guy tell me "how would I afford my boat if I paid my sales taxes correctly". lol
Same way he pays his state sales tax, FICA, and withholding obligations. Upon collection of revenues, he deposits the tax obligation into a different account(s) than the one he operates his business on. That's what I did. Don't you?

Nearly all of these small businesses of any consequence at all are already doing what is required. Very little extra effort here.

Yes we keep separate accounts. But you've got your head buried deep in the sand if you think that's how everyone does it. We have 3400 franchisees in the same business; I bet I couldn't find 10% that keep separate accounts for taxes.
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nein51 said:

whiterock said:

nein51 said:

According to SBA (consider the source) 99.9% of US businesses are small business which is fewer than 500 employees.

97.5% have fewer than 100 employees.

I often hear people like me say "I shouldn't be responsible for collecting the states money" and I understand why. We are militant about our taxes because I don't want to go to jail but I can tell you we are definitely in the minority.

I had one guy tell me "how would I afford my boat if I paid my sales taxes correctly". lol
Same way he pays his state sales tax, FICA, and withholding obligations. Upon collection of revenues, he deposits the tax obligation into a different account(s) than the one he operates his business on. That's what I did. Don't you?

Nearly all of these small businesses of any consequence at all are already doing what is required. Very little extra effort here.

Yes we keep separate accounts. But you've got your head buried deep in the sand if you think that's how everyone does it. We have 3400 franchisees in the same business; I bet I couldn't find 10% that keep separate accounts for taxes.
Good business practices should be promoted, particularly by the franchisor to the franchisee......
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whiterock said:

nein51 said:

whiterock said:

nein51 said:

According to SBA (consider the source) 99.9% of US businesses are small business which is fewer than 500 employees.

97.5% have fewer than 100 employees.

I often hear people like me say "I shouldn't be responsible for collecting the states money" and I understand why. We are militant about our taxes because I don't want to go to jail but I can tell you we are definitely in the minority.

I had one guy tell me "how would I afford my boat if I paid my sales taxes correctly". lol
Same way he pays his state sales tax, FICA, and withholding obligations. Upon collection of revenues, he deposits the tax obligation into a different account(s) than the one he operates his business on. That's what I did. Don't you?

Nearly all of these small businesses of any consequence at all are already doing what is required. Very little extra effort here.

Yes we keep separate accounts. But you've got your head buried deep in the sand if you think that's how everyone does it. We have 3400 franchisees in the same business; I bet I couldn't find 10% that keep separate accounts for taxes.
Good business practices should be promoted, particularly by the franchisor to the franchisee......

Franchisors are barred by law from giving financial advice to franchisees
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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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historian
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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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william
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D.A.L.E.

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Beat the 'Hawks!!

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nein51 said:

whiterock said:

nein51 said:

whiterock said:

nein51 said:

According to SBA (consider the source) 99.9% of US businesses are small business which is fewer than 500 employees.

97.5% have fewer than 100 employees.

I often hear people like me say "I shouldn't be responsible for collecting the states money" and I understand why. We are militant about our taxes because I don't want to go to jail but I can tell you we are definitely in the minority.

I had one guy tell me "how would I afford my boat if I paid my sales taxes correctly". lol
Same way he pays his state sales tax, FICA, and withholding obligations. Upon collection of revenues, he deposits the tax obligation into a different account(s) than the one he operates his business on. That's what I did. Don't you?

Nearly all of these small businesses of any consequence at all are already doing what is required. Very little extra effort here.

Yes we keep separate accounts. But you've got your head buried deep in the sand if you think that's how everyone does it. We have 3400 franchisees in the same business; I bet I couldn't find 10% that keep separate accounts for taxes.
Good business practices should be promoted, particularly by the franchisor to the franchisee......

Franchisors are barred by law from giving financial advice to franchisees
Non-responsive.

Franchisors often provide the software to run the business, correct? (which will include a full chart of accounts).

Franchise agreements require current payment of all state, local, federal taxes as a condition of the franchise agreement, correct?

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whiterock said:

nein51 said:

whiterock said:

nein51 said:

whiterock said:

nein51 said:

According to SBA (consider the source) 99.9% of US businesses are small business which is fewer than 500 employees.

97.5% have fewer than 100 employees.

I often hear people like me say "I shouldn't be responsible for collecting the states money" and I understand why. We are militant about our taxes because I don't want to go to jail but I can tell you we are definitely in the minority.

I had one guy tell me "how would I afford my boat if I paid my sales taxes correctly". lol
Same way he pays his state sales tax, FICA, and withholding obligations. Upon collection of revenues, he deposits the tax obligation into a different account(s) than the one he operates his business on. That's what I did. Don't you?

Nearly all of these small businesses of any consequence at all are already doing what is required. Very little extra effort here.

Yes we keep separate accounts. But you've got your head buried deep in the sand if you think that's how everyone does it. We have 3400 franchisees in the same business; I bet I couldn't find 10% that keep separate accounts for taxes.
Good business practices should be promoted, particularly by the franchisor to the franchisee......

Franchisors are barred by law from giving financial advice to franchisees
Non-responsive.

Franchisors often provide the software to run the business, correct? (which will include a full chart of accounts).

Franchise agreements require current payment of all state, local, federal taxes as a condition of the franchise agreement, correct?


Of course this is all correct. The whole purpose of choosing the franchised method for starting a business is to acquire a tested blueprint for profitable operation.
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Malbec said:

whiterock said:

nein51 said:

whiterock said:

nein51 said:

whiterock said:

nein51 said:

According to SBA (consider the source) 99.9% of US businesses are small business which is fewer than 500 employees.

97.5% have fewer than 100 employees.

I often hear people like me say "I shouldn't be responsible for collecting the states money" and I understand why. We are militant about our taxes because I don't want to go to jail but I can tell you we are definitely in the minority.

I had one guy tell me "how would I afford my boat if I paid my sales taxes correctly". lol
Same way he pays his state sales tax, FICA, and withholding obligations. Upon collection of revenues, he deposits the tax obligation into a different account(s) than the one he operates his business on. That's what I did. Don't you?

Nearly all of these small businesses of any consequence at all are already doing what is required. Very little extra effort here.

Yes we keep separate accounts. But you've got your head buried deep in the sand if you think that's how everyone does it. We have 3400 franchisees in the same business; I bet I couldn't find 10% that keep separate accounts for taxes.
Good business practices should be promoted, particularly by the franchisor to the franchisee......

Franchisors are barred by law from giving financial advice to franchisees
Non-responsive.

Franchisors often provide the software to run the business, correct? (which will include a full chart of accounts).

Franchise agreements require current payment of all state, local, federal taxes as a condition of the franchise agreement, correct?


Of course this is all correct. The whole purpose of choosing the franchised method for starting a business is to acquire a tested blueprint for profitable operation.
.... like Arby's.

- KKM

BID.
Are you a man or a mouse!? - F. D.
historian
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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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william said:

Malbec said:

whiterock said:

nein51 said:

whiterock said:

nein51 said:

whiterock said:

nein51 said:

According to SBA (consider the source) 99.9% of US businesses are small business which is fewer than 500 employees.

97.5% have fewer than 100 employees.

I often hear people like me say "I shouldn't be responsible for collecting the states money" and I understand why. We are militant about our taxes because I don't want to go to jail but I can tell you we are definitely in the minority.

I had one guy tell me "how would I afford my boat if I paid my sales taxes correctly". lol
Same way he pays his state sales tax, FICA, and withholding obligations. Upon collection of revenues, he deposits the tax obligation into a different account(s) than the one he operates his business on. That's what I did. Don't you?

Nearly all of these small businesses of any consequence at all are already doing what is required. Very little extra effort here.

Yes we keep separate accounts. But you've got your head buried deep in the sand if you think that's how everyone does it. We have 3400 franchisees in the same business; I bet I couldn't find 10% that keep separate accounts for taxes.
Good business practices should be promoted, particularly by the franchisor to the franchisee......

Franchisors are barred by law from giving financial advice to franchisees
Non-responsive.

Franchisors often provide the software to run the business, correct? (which will include a full chart of accounts).

Franchise agreements require current payment of all state, local, federal taxes as a condition of the franchise agreement, correct?


Of course this is all correct. The whole purpose of choosing the franchised method for starting a business is to acquire a tested blueprint for profitable operation.
.... like Arby's.

- KKM

BID.


Arby's = yummy.

But man their app is low effort. If their app was better with actual rewards, I'd visit more often.

Food chains that have terrible apps are usually poorly run. It's not hard, just copy Chic fil a, Whataburger, McDonald's, or similar. They've spent the big money developing a useful app, so you cheaper food stores can just copy it. Not that hard and consumers want it.
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historian said:


"Exited," eh?
Ready to exit the present proxy presidency, I guess.
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Anyone is capable of a typo
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EatMoreSalmon
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historian said:

Anyone is capable of a typo
Some are just more entertaining than others.
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boognish_bear said:




They better be cutting stuff and not getting in to make sure their companies get more fluff.
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