RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Assassin said:

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Death toll to 24, but they saved the fish...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/la-fires-latest-live-map-update-california-b2678510.html

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This is criminal. Geez, they need a Special Prosecutor on this mess. Santa Anna's are not a rare event, they occur every year. What is done to plan for this contingency? Wasn't it the power grid last year? Fires this year. This is a pattern of leadership incompetence. This is not a spending issue or a personnel issue, it is a Leadership failure. How do the hydrants not work? How are the reservoirs not connected? Those Leaders need to be held accountable.

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Newsome "allocated" $24 billion to fight homelessness. What was the end result? Homelessness in California went up. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out where the money went. The politicians, especially in California, realize there will be no accountability or consequences. California has literally morphed into the Wild West.

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First, with any program, private or public, there has to be accountability build into the evaluation metrics for performance.

Second, the fact that we are talking "fighting homelessness" and DEI in the same conversation as Fire Services, Fire Fighting Infrastructure Maintenance and connectivity and training shows that there is something very wrong. Operations and Maintenance is literally the first call on money, the second being debt service, anything left can go to programs or capital investments. This is basic stuff, most Junior staff get this after a year or two of experience.

I find the whole thing unreal.

They are desperate enough to be using seawater. That is the last resort, must not have faith anything is changing on the freshwater side.

I was sort of chuckling quietly when all of these people were like: "The left is going to lose it when they have to get all of these permits to rebuild."

That's not how politics work.

These are the rich elite-- the "virtuous" people.

Gavin will take care of them and he'll… pic.twitter.com/90jYu7iTgf

— Jeremy Carl (@realJeremyCarl) January 12, 2025

https://www.fox7austin.com/news/elon-musk-donates-cybertrucks-starlink-california-fires

Redbrickbear said:

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I was sort of chuckling quietly when all of these people were like: "The left is going to lose it when they have to get all of these permits to rebuild."

That's not how politics work.

These are the rich elite-- the "virtuous" people.

Gavin will take care of them and he'll… pic.twitter.com/90jYu7iTgf

— Jeremy Carl (@realJeremyCarl) January 12, 2025

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Gavin is politically a dead man walking.

This may be from The Onion.

KaiBear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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I was sort of chuckling quietly when all of these people were like: "The left is going to lose it when they have to get all of these permits to rebuild."

That's not how politics work.

These are the rich elite-- the "virtuous" people.

Gavin will take care of them and he'll… pic.twitter.com/90jYu7iTgf

— Jeremy Carl (@realJeremyCarl) January 12, 2025

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Gavin is politically a dead man walking.

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That will be interesting in FL, rebuilding in the hurricane area has caused issues. Requiring to elevate homes is causing people to lose their homes because they can't afford it. Will the earthquake and new fire regs that are bound to come do the same?
It is not all about the left either, Conservatives don't like taxes being used to rebuild on what they consider bad locations. Those are the ones causing the issue here. I can see both sides...

Harrison Bergeron said:

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boognish_bear said:

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NEWSMAX: Why should other states be bailing out California for choosing the wrong people to run their state?

TUBERVILLE: We shouldn't be ... they don't deserve anything to be honest with you unless they show us they're gonna make some changes. pic.twitter.com/SUvVPRDgKm

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 13, 2025

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Not unreasonable. It is not a natural disaster. California has lots of money, it should bail out its own citizens.

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I don't agree with not supplying Fed aide, that is one of the Fed's responsibilities and we have done it in the past, Katrina and the levy system was every bit as much negligence and dereliction as this.

However, CA is dead wrong in not accepting conditions. Just like Katrina, Louisiana had to change its policies and get approvals for the new systems being built with Federal monies. CA has lost the "benefit of the doubt" they should require outside approvals for the new policies and infrastructure going forward with Federal aide dollars. This is twice in two years, last year it was the power grid and "green policies"/

STRANGE BODY LANGUAGE FROM GAVIN NEWSOM.pic.twitter.com/IPN7A5cyxL

— Citizen Free Press (@CitizenFreePres) January 14, 2025

BearFan33 said:

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ScottS said:

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STRANGE BODY LANGUAGE FROM GAVIN NEWSOM.pic.twitter.com/IPN7A5cyxL

— Citizen Free Press (@CitizenFreePres) January 14, 2025

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What does that snake have up his sleeve? He can hardly contain himself, It would be fitting for him to get rich(er) from real estate deals after this mostly preventable catastrophe.

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That dude is so strange....

FLBear5630 said:

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KaiBear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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I was sort of chuckling quietly when all of these people were like: "The left is going to lose it when they have to get all of these permits to rebuild."

That's not how politics work.

These are the rich elite-- the "virtuous" people.

Gavin will take care of them and he'll… pic.twitter.com/90jYu7iTgf

— Jeremy Carl (@realJeremyCarl) January 12, 2025

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Gavin is politically a dead man walking.

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That will be interesting in FL, rebuilding in the hurricane area has caused issues. Requiring to elevate homes is causing people to lose their homes because they can't afford it. Will the earthquake and new fire regs that are bound to come do the same?
It is not all about the left either, Conservatives don't like taxes being used to rebuild on what they consider bad locations. Those are the ones causing the issue here. I can see both sides...

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I can too, but that's the struggle with all of these things from kids to policy. Where is the line between helping and poor incentives.


People will remember the attention and aide provided East Palestine and North Carolina and how the Democrats weaponized FEMA.

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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KaiBear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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I was sort of chuckling quietly when all of these people were like: "The left is going to lose it when they have to get all of these permits to rebuild."

That's not how politics work.

These are the rich elite-- the "virtuous" people.

Gavin will take care of them and he'll… pic.twitter.com/90jYu7iTgf

— Jeremy Carl (@realJeremyCarl) January 12, 2025

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Gavin is politically a dead man walking.

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That will be interesting in FL, rebuilding in the hurricane area has caused issues. Requiring to elevate homes is causing people to lose their homes because they can't afford it. Will the earthquake and new fire regs that are bound to come do the same?
It is not all about the left either, Conservatives don't like taxes being used to rebuild on what they consider bad locations. Those are the ones causing the issue here. I can see both sides...

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a big portion has to do with prevention and preparedness. California has failed miserably in both categories

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Don't disagree. They have done a real good job in some areas, such as the urbanization integrated with the natural surroundings and state parks. The Pacific Coast Highway and the State Parks are really well done (programs started and maintained as far back as Reagan, not just Dems). Others, they have just gone backwards and it is not a lack of money, it is all policy driven at the top.

Trump son is married to his ex wife.

STxBear81 said:

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Trump son is married to his ex wife.

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It's true. what a strange world.

STxBear81 said:

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Trump son is married to his ex wife.

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Sloppy 2nds?

Ha. Yeh. Spy ring

Gavin has a team already assembled to build L.A 2.0 but he hasn’t got any team that can contain the fire https://t.co/vHn3HoPEWm

— DeAnna Lorraine 🇺🇸 (@DeAnna4Congress) January 14, 2025

Real dews h baggy of him. Swindler

STxBear81 said:

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Trump son is married to his ex wife.

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If you're talking about Kimberly, he's not. They've dated and were supposed to get married but rumors are that they're not together anymore.

BIDEN: "People impacted by these fires are gonna receive one-time payment of $770. One-time payment." pic.twitter.com/9E7Toj5BEo

— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) January 14, 2025

ScottS said:

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BIDEN: "People impacted by these fires are gonna receive one-time payment of $770. One-time payment." pic.twitter.com/9E7Toj5BEo

— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) January 14, 2025

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That's about all they deserve. The same as the folks in North Carolina got and more than the people of East Palestine, Ohio, got.

California always likes to remind the rest of the U.S. how it is the wealthiest, smartest state that contributes more to the federal coffers than any other state ... so let it model how to take care of its own.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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ScottS said:

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BIDEN: "People impacted by these fires are gonna receive one-time payment of $770. One-time payment." pic.twitter.com/9E7Toj5BEo

— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) January 14, 2025

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That's about all they deserve. The same as the folks in North Carolina got and more than the people of East Palestine, Ohio, got.

California always likes to remind the rest of the U.S. how it is the wealthiest, smartest state that contributes more to the federal coffers than any other state ... so let it model how to take care of its own.

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If they were in a more contested state they could have received more by selling their votes