Trump's first 100 days

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Surrender Trump going all in for his boy.

We withdrew missiles from Turkey in 1963 (and from Italy as well) a smart policy that all American Presidents after that followed course on.

Were LBJ, Nixon, Carter, Reagan, Bush all in bed with Moscow?


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The Baltic States remain in NATO and still protected by missiles bases and military installations in other areas of Europe with easy striking range of Russia


Yes, we got something in return. Tell me what we're getting in return here? We've seen floated, no Ukraine NATO, no troops in Ukraine, invite back into G7, reduced sanctions, offering to cut our military, and now troop withdrawals in the Baltics. Meanwhile, nothing from Putin or Russia.

We've now gone beyond Ukraine and are now conceding military and economic power in Europe and the globe.

1. "Yes, we got something in return. Tell me what we're getting in return here?".... No missiles have been withdrawn for the Baltic States (despite your premature freak out)

Its a negotiation...lets see what we get for possibly taking them out of the Baltics and redeploying them to Poland or Finland.

2. "no Ukraine NATO, no troops in Ukraine"....well that was never going to happen. Biden's administration admitted that....which just brings up why we spent billions and strung this war out for years if NATO membership was always off the table anyway. But that is a discussion for another day.

Needless to say that is not Trump doing anything different than Biden and the DC liberals

3. "invite back into G7, reduced sanctions"....once the conflict is over are we supposed to keep them frozen out forever? Keep Moscow in the orbit of China and keep letting the powers that be in Beijing reap the benefits of cheap russian natural resources? Is that your great plan? Make China stronger?

You've never been a part of complex negotiations then. These are now points, not after points. The conflict hasn't even ended (not even a ceasefire), and there's a chance we become a role player and not the main player. Meanwhile Trump's throwing out all these concessions without an outline of what he wants. I don't think he even knows. You know who knows what they want? Putin. And China is busy doing long term strategic projects, and we're busy beating ourselves and our allies up. If anything we've emboldened them and made it easier to stand against us.
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Who knows if the concessions being bandied about are actually on the table, but major powers deciding the fate of a nation without that nation in the negotiations has a bad history. I don't want the US to be a part of a 1938 Munich Agreement. type peace deal. Appeasing the aggressor usually goes badly. Europe should remember this. But I'm not sure present EU leaders are the right ones to keep the peace through strength, either.
In a way, I hope Putin overplays his hand and is forced to a choice of giving back conquered land or bleeding his armies to death. I don't see Putin agreeing to just stop fighting and go completely back into Russia.

On a side note, at some point one of the sides will go on a massive drone push (like a major army sized number of drones) through the enemy followed by conventional forces used to mop up and destroy. Something like blitzkrieg with drones replacing armor and air to ground support.
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ATL Bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

ATL Bear said:

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boognish_bear said:


Surrender Trump going all in for his boy.

We withdrew missiles from Turkey in 1963 (and from Italy as well) a smart policy that all American Presidents after that followed course on.

Were LBJ, Nixon, Carter, Reagan, Bush all in bed with Moscow?


PS

The Baltic States remain in NATO and still protected by missiles bases and military installations in other areas of Europe with easy striking range of Russia


Yes, we got something in return. Tell me what we're getting in return here? We've seen floated, no Ukraine NATO, no troops in Ukraine, invite back into G7, reduced sanctions, offering to cut our military, and now troop withdrawals in the Baltics. Meanwhile, nothing from Putin or Russia.

We've now gone beyond Ukraine and are now conceding military and economic power in Europe and the globe.

1. "Yes, we got something in return. Tell me what we're getting in return here?".... No missiles have been withdrawn for the Baltic States (despite your premature freak out)

Its a negotiation...lets see what we get for possibly taking them out of the Baltics and redeploying them to Poland or Finland.

2. "no Ukraine NATO, no troops in Ukraine"....well that was never going to happen. Biden's administration admitted that....which just brings up why we spent billions and strung this war out for years if NATO membership was always off the table anyway. But that is a discussion for another day.

Needless to say that is not Trump doing anything different than Biden and the DC liberals

3. "invite back into G7, reduced sanctions"....once the conflict is over are we supposed to keep them frozen out forever? Keep Moscow in the orbit of China and keep letting the powers that be in Beijing reap the benefits of cheap russian natural resources? Is that your great plan? Make China stronger?

You've never been a part of complex negotiations then. These are now points, not after points.

I can easily admit I have never been part of the complex geo-political negotiations to end a war

And neither have you.

But you are the one attacking Trump on here (who is now serving his 2nd term as President of the USA....so he has experience)

Lets give Trump some time to negotiate before you say he is "giving in to Putin"
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boognish_bear said:


I think this is partially what Trump wanted. Not sure if he wanted the Palestinians to stay though. No one in their right mind could ever think Hamas is going to go away without getting squashed. And if the Palestinians stay, so will Hamas.
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My 370 year-old great great great great great great great grandfather is furious
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Glenn Beck on what is going on with Gold

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The boss at Daytona yesterday

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KaiBear said:

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Biggest fraud of all being conducted by the American people. Rough estimates of fraudulent SS payments is somewhere around 250-300 Billion a year. LOL at 15+ million Americans over the age of 109.
Totally agree.

Somehow Musk needs to elimate these fraudulent SS payments.

Same with frauduleant disability payments.
Will be interesting to see how much is fraud and how much is a lack of reconciliation with death records. How many are going to accounts to nowhere or never leaving the Treasury. Anyone purposely committing fraud, sure prosecute.

What do you do with the 80 year old lady whose husband died and she just used the money? Lock her up?

People seem real quick to go to Fraud now days. Mother in Law in Hospice and meds were not available Sister in Law screaming about fraud. How about waiting to see if you get a credit or mistake was made. Doesn't she realize that when she goes back to COL these people will be the ones taking care of her mother? Sure bet being accused of fraud will endear her to the staff.
Fraud is fraud.....and such not be condoned.

Period.


Let's see where it ends up. TSA code bothers more.
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Mrs. graham prefers the military option…I'm shocked lol



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Ouch!!

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Margaret Brennen is out there. I suppose she has to say those things to keep her job. She can t really believe that crap she says. Can she ?
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Trump needs to primary out Graham.
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FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

ATL Bear said:

william said:


Biggest fraud of all being conducted by the American people. Rough estimates of fraudulent SS payments is somewhere around 250-300 Billion a year. LOL at 15+ million Americans over the age of 109.
Totally agree.

Somehow Musk needs to elimate these fraudulent SS payments.

Same with frauduleant disability payments.
Will be interesting to see how much is fraud and how much is a lack of reconciliation with death records. How many are going to accounts to nowhere or never leaving the Treasury. Anyone purposely committing fraud, sure prosecute.

What do you do with the 80 year old lady whose husband died and she just used the money? Lock her up?

People seem real quick to go to Fraud now days. Mother in Law in Hospice and meds were not available Sister in Law screaming about fraud. How about waiting to see if you get a credit or mistake was made. Doesn't she realize that when she goes back to COL these people will be the ones taking care of her mother? Sure bet being accused of fraud will endear her to the staff.


I would be fine with just stopping the payments (if they are still going out) and not prosecuting every single instance. If there are ones that are truly fraud then those should be prosecuted.
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Redbrickbear said:

ATL Bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

ATL Bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

ATL Bear said:

boognish_bear said:


Surrender Trump going all in for his boy.

We withdrew missiles from Turkey in 1963 (and from Italy as well) a smart policy that all American Presidents after that followed course on.

Were LBJ, Nixon, Carter, Reagan, Bush all in bed with Moscow?


PS

The Baltic States remain in NATO and still protected by missiles bases and military installations in other areas of Europe with easy striking range of Russia


Yes, we got something in return. Tell me what we're getting in return here? We've seen floated, no Ukraine NATO, no troops in Ukraine, invite back into G7, reduced sanctions, offering to cut our military, and now troop withdrawals in the Baltics. Meanwhile, nothing from Putin or Russia.

We've now gone beyond Ukraine and are now conceding military and economic power in Europe and the globe.

1. "Yes, we got something in return. Tell me what we're getting in return here?".... No missiles have been withdrawn for the Baltic States (despite your premature freak out)

Its a negotiation...lets see what we get for possibly taking them out of the Baltics and redeploying them to Poland or Finland.

2. "no Ukraine NATO, no troops in Ukraine"....well that was never going to happen. Biden's administration admitted that....which just brings up why we spent billions and strung this war out for years if NATO membership was always off the table anyway. But that is a discussion for another day.

Needless to say that is not Trump doing anything different than Biden and the DC liberals

3. "invite back into G7, reduced sanctions"....once the conflict is over are we supposed to keep them frozen out forever? Keep Moscow in the orbit of China and keep letting the powers that be in Beijing reap the benefits of cheap russian natural resources? Is that your great plan? Make China stronger?

You've never been a part of complex negotiations then. These are now points, not after points.

I can easily admit I have never been part of the complex geo-political negotiations to end a war

And neither have you.

But you are the one attacking Trump on here (who is now serving his 2nd term as President of the USA....so he has experience)

Let's give Trump some time to negotiate before you say he is "giving in to Putin"
Neither has Trump. But he knows that negotiations, regardless of the subject, follow certain patterns and requirements. Heck he wrote a book about it, and I'll quote him on it. "Leverage: don't make deals without it."
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4th and Inches said:

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I like the idea...the only catch is healthier food is more expensive...so the money won't stretch as far.
healthier food is more expensive because it doesnt get the same subsidies as processed food

The federal government props up the corn and soy industries to the tune of more than 100 billion dollars a year through the Federal Crop Insurance Program and various subsidy programs. Although corn and soy are not cornerstones of a nutritious diet, they account for about half of the federal farm subsidy outlays and a significant portion of daily caloric intake in the United States.

Instead of propping up farm corporations that make billions in income annually, incentive structures should encourage farmers to focus on regenerative farming, prioritize resilience and mitigation, and subsidize through the lens of nutrition. Increased innovation in farming practices would give growers of a wider variety of crops the opportunity to compete in this space, thereby benefiting nutrition as well as the environment.



We have the food we have because it is cheaper than the alternative. We do not subsidize corn for feed or food. We subsidize it for ethanol.... EU food safety standards are de facto non-tariff barriers to entry, and as a result, EU food costs are higher.

Few domestic industries receive more "support" than agriculture. No nation wants to have to import all its food, so it will pay significant premiums to keep its farms in production. Japan is legendary for the support it provides to its rice farmers.

in a purely free market, America would feed much of the world, and most of Europe would import most of its food. at least for 2 out of every 3 years, when weather conditions depressed crop production and much of the world starved.
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cowboycwr said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

ATL Bear said:

william said:


Biggest fraud of all being conducted by the American people. Rough estimates of fraudulent SS payments is somewhere around 250-300 Billion a year. LOL at 15+ million Americans over the age of 109.
Totally agree.

Somehow Musk needs to elimate these fraudulent SS payments.

Same with frauduleant disability payments.
Will be interesting to see how much is fraud and how much is a lack of reconciliation with death records. How many are going to accounts to nowhere or never leaving the Treasury. Anyone purposely committing fraud, sure prosecute.

What do you do with the 80 year old lady whose husband died and she just used the money? Lock her up?

People seem real quick to go to Fraud now days. Mother in Law in Hospice and meds were not available Sister in Law screaming about fraud. How about waiting to see if you get a credit or mistake was made. Doesn't she realize that when she goes back to COL these people will be the ones taking care of her mother? Sure bet being accused of fraud will endear her to the staff.


I would be fine with just stopping the payments (if they are still going out) and not prosecuting every single instance. If there are ones that are truly fraud then those should be prosecuted.


I am on the same page. Prosecuting some 85 year old widower trying to make ends meet not giving back dead husbands SS accomplishes nothing. I am more interested in systematic fraud and criminal fraud.

Curious to see breakdown
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Interesting

Birth rates on the Left fell during Trump's first term, could we expect a massive dip among these same people within the next four years?

Right-wingers, on the other hand got married and had kids.



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Believe it or not, I am with you on this. I'm for going after the politicians and foreign nationals... not grandmas.

However, I think they will be a minuscule percentage of the fraud.
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By all means sell Taiwan all the weapons they want.

CASH up front.

No refunds.
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