Are you comfortable with the drug strikes?

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whiterock
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FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

J.R. said:

boognish_bear said:

J.R. said:

where is the proof those were boats filled with drugs headed for the US? Haven't seen a lick of proof. This has nothing to do with drugs. All about Trump wanting the petroleum reserves and regime change.. Hey fat Lizard King....just be honest. oh, I forgot, honesty is impossible with the Lizard King!


It's from NYT...so who knows?!?



thanks! So we are blowing up boats with weed? Weed comes from Mexico and domestic US

You wanted to know if drugs were on board. Your question is now answered.


Pot? We are doing this to stop pot???

Yes, but not for the reasons you presume.

It is not economical to transport a bulky bales of pot in specialized speedboats over a 3000mi route that runs past places that also grow pot to smuggle into a place that also grows pot. but that is not terribly a terribly material consideration. We are blowing up Venezuelan drug smuggling logistics in order to destabilize Venezuelan drug cartels who are part of the ruling Venezuelan political regime. You destabilize the cartels, you also destabilize the ruling political coalition. Final destination of the drugs really doesn't matter. Every shipment destroyed starves drug cartels of cash.



Once, I would like this group to actually have the outcome match the reason we said we were doing it, not some other side reason later on to justify the action.
You have apparently not read Machiavelli, Sun Tsu, Liddell-Hart, etc.....on how to conduct war.

You and the Administration said there was Fentanyl and this was a major blow to stopping Fentanyl which is killing all our children (it was for the children...). Now, it is some economic destabilization plan to hurt the Cartels, sort of like we did in Viet Nam/Cambodia/Laos for heroin in the 1960's? Didn't that fiasco fuel MORE heroin demand?
Did you not see the reports this week that drug deaths are down in 2026?

Just once, I would like the Trump Administration to actually do something for the reasons they say. GW Bush got CRUCIFIED for intel not being accurate and invading/attacking a Nation. That was for Haliburton, who is this for?

There you go again with blinkered analysis. Yes, the immediate justification for blowing up cartel boats full of drugs is to prevent those drugs from finding their way to the USA. And it will do exactly that. That in no way means it will not also starve Venezuelan cartels of cash flow. it will That in no way means starving cartels of cash will not also destabilize drug cartels which are the backbone of the Venezuelan regime, which does need to be replaced (for a laundry list of reasons) in favor of the opposition party widely believed by the international community to have actually won the last election (and whose leader also won the Nobel Peace Prize).

Best of all, attacking drug cartels and seizing tankers of embargoed oil will place enormous stress on the Venezuelan regime WITHOUT committing an act of war against Venezuela, which it appears is exactly what you advocate we should do. Thank God Trump is POTUS and not you!

Just for the record, how many billions of dollars of US shareholder wealth are you prepared to let Venezuela expropriate before you react?
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whiterock said:

J.R. said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

J.R. said:

boognish_bear said:

J.R. said:

where is the proof those were boats filled with drugs headed for the US? Haven't seen a lick of proof. This has nothing to do with drugs. All about Trump wanting the petroleum reserves and regime change.. Hey fat Lizard King....just be honest. oh, I forgot, honesty is impossible with the Lizard King!


It's from NYT...so who knows?!?



thanks! So we are blowing up boats with weed? Weed comes from Mexico and domestic US

You wanted to know if drugs were on board. Your question is now answered.


Pot? We are doing this to stop pot???

Yes, but not for the reasons you presume.

It is not economical to transport a bulky bales of pot in specialized speedboats over a 3000mi route that runs past places that also grow pot to smuggle into a place that also grows pot. but that is not terribly a terribly material consideration. We are blowing up Venezuelan drug smuggling logistics in order to destabilize Venezuelan drug cartels who are part of the ruling Venezuelan political regime. You destabilize the cartels, you also destabilize the ruling political coalition. Final destination of the drugs really doesn't matter. Every shipment destroyed starves drug cartels of cash.



Incorrect. It is nothing but a ruse. Lizard King want the Petro via regime change. Good thing fat ass didn't start a war. So, does that mean we can subtract one start of a new war for the 377 wars fat boy has settled.

You have a fairly serious reading comprehension problem. I have stated many times, including in the post you replied to that the goal was to "destabilize the ruling political coaltion" in Venezuela. That is exactly what we should be doing. Trump is going about it brilliantly...denying Venezuela the defense of us committing an unprovoked act of war against them.

So it is not about Fentanyl? It is not about Cartels?

So, Trump is overthrowing a Nation and Nation-building. This is similar to Iraq. Wait, that is bad. Nation building is what Haley and Bush do, not Trump. Trump is a closet Neo-Con!!!! RINO!
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FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

J.R. said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

J.R. said:

boognish_bear said:

J.R. said:

where is the proof those were boats filled with drugs headed for the US? Haven't seen a lick of proof. This has nothing to do with drugs. All about Trump wanting the petroleum reserves and regime change.. Hey fat Lizard King....just be honest. oh, I forgot, honesty is impossible with the Lizard King!


It's from NYT...so who knows?!?



thanks! So we are blowing up boats with weed? Weed comes from Mexico and domestic US

You wanted to know if drugs were on board. Your question is now answered.


Pot? We are doing this to stop pot???

Yes, but not for the reasons you presume.

It is not economical to transport a bulky bales of pot in specialized speedboats over a 3000mi route that runs past places that also grow pot to smuggle into a place that also grows pot. but that is not terribly a terribly material consideration. We are blowing up Venezuelan drug smuggling logistics in order to destabilize Venezuelan drug cartels who are part of the ruling Venezuelan political regime. You destabilize the cartels, you also destabilize the ruling political coalition. Final destination of the drugs really doesn't matter. Every shipment destroyed starves drug cartels of cash.



Incorrect. It is nothing but a ruse. Lizard King want the Petro via regime change. Good thing fat ass didn't start a war. So, does that mean we can subtract one start of a new war for the 377 wars fat boy has settled.

You have a fairly serious reading comprehension problem. I have stated many times, including in the post you replied to that the goal was to "destabilize the ruling political coaltion" in Venezuela. That is exactly what we should be doing. Trump is going about it brilliantly...denying Venezuela the defense of us committing an unprovoked act of war against them.

So it is not about Fentanyl? It is not about Cartels?
LOL what a pitiful false dilemma.

So, Trump is overthrowing a Nation and Nation-building. This is similar to Iraq. Wait, that is bad. Nation building is what Haley and Bush do, not Trump. Trump is a closet Neo-Con!!!! RINO!
It will not be similar to Iraq until we invade. (Which we have every right to do).

Your thinking here is a complete mess, because all you're doing it cobbling together meaningless critiques of Orange Man Bad.

Trump Derangement Syndrome is a helluva drug...a helluva drug!
FLBear5630
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whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

J.R. said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

J.R. said:

boognish_bear said:

J.R. said:

where is the proof those were boats filled with drugs headed for the US? Haven't seen a lick of proof. This has nothing to do with drugs. All about Trump wanting the petroleum reserves and regime change.. Hey fat Lizard King....just be honest. oh, I forgot, honesty is impossible with the Lizard King!


It's from NYT...so who knows?!?



thanks! So we are blowing up boats with weed? Weed comes from Mexico and domestic US

You wanted to know if drugs were on board. Your question is now answered.


Pot? We are doing this to stop pot???

Yes, but not for the reasons you presume.

It is not economical to transport a bulky bales of pot in specialized speedboats over a 3000mi route that runs past places that also grow pot to smuggle into a place that also grows pot. but that is not terribly a terribly material consideration. We are blowing up Venezuelan drug smuggling logistics in order to destabilize Venezuelan drug cartels who are part of the ruling Venezuelan political regime. You destabilize the cartels, you also destabilize the ruling political coalition. Final destination of the drugs really doesn't matter. Every shipment destroyed starves drug cartels of cash.



Incorrect. It is nothing but a ruse. Lizard King want the Petro via regime change. Good thing fat ass didn't start a war. So, does that mean we can subtract one start of a new war for the 377 wars fat boy has settled.

You have a fairly serious reading comprehension problem. I have stated many times, including in the post you replied to that the goal was to "destabilize the ruling political coaltion" in Venezuela. That is exactly what we should be doing. Trump is going about it brilliantly...denying Venezuela the defense of us committing an unprovoked act of war against them.

So it is not about Fentanyl? It is not about Cartels?
LOL what a pitiful false dilemma.

So, Trump is overthrowing a Nation and Nation-building. This is similar to Iraq. Wait, that is bad. Nation building is what Haley and Bush do, not Trump. Trump is a closet Neo-Con!!!! RINO!
It will not be similar to Iraq until we invade. (Which we have every right to do).

Your thinking here is a complete mess, because all you're doing it cobbling together meaningless critiques of Orange Man Bad.

Trump Derangement Syndrome is a helluva drug...a helluva drug!

No, I am taking things you said about others when they did similar acts. This is not TDS, this is your Trump Worship Syndrome. He can't do anything wrong, even when he does what you condemned others for doing or changes the reasons.

This whole Venezuela action was sold under drug enforcement, the taking away Cartel revenue, and now you are selling it under destabilizing a government. It does not matter, whatever Trump wants to do. You will cheerlead and rubberstamp. Remarkable. Trump is just as much of a neo-con as Halley or Bush ever were.



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Oldbear83 said:

J.R. said:

Oldbear83 said:

J.R. still desperately flailing to appear cognizant of modern political trends.

I don't call Authoritism and rape and pillaging my country "modern". Do the country. Time for fat boy to go by hook or crook. Get ready for the tanks to roll in, there modern politic. For some reason I don't find you terribly modern relative to anything. Oi

J.R. on the weekend, folks.

Rabid internet spewage is de riguer for him.


Good luck, son.


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FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

J.R. said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

J.R. said:

boognish_bear said:

J.R. said:

where is the proof those were boats filled with drugs headed for the US? Haven't seen a lick of proof. This has nothing to do with drugs. All about Trump wanting the petroleum reserves and regime change.. Hey fat Lizard King....just be honest. oh, I forgot, honesty is impossible with the Lizard King!


It's from NYT...so who knows?!?



thanks! So we are blowing up boats with weed? Weed comes from Mexico and domestic US

You wanted to know if drugs were on board. Your question is now answered.


Pot? We are doing this to stop pot???

Yes, but not for the reasons you presume.

It is not economical to transport a bulky bales of pot in specialized speedboats over a 3000mi route that runs past places that also grow pot to smuggle into a place that also grows pot. but that is not terribly a terribly material consideration. We are blowing up Venezuelan drug smuggling logistics in order to destabilize Venezuelan drug cartels who are part of the ruling Venezuelan political regime. You destabilize the cartels, you also destabilize the ruling political coalition. Final destination of the drugs really doesn't matter. Every shipment destroyed starves drug cartels of cash.



Incorrect. It is nothing but a ruse. Lizard King want the Petro via regime change. Good thing fat ass didn't start a war. So, does that mean we can subtract one start of a new war for the 377 wars fat boy has settled.

You have a fairly serious reading comprehension problem. I have stated many times, including in the post you replied to that the goal was to "destabilize the ruling political coaltion" in Venezuela. That is exactly what we should be doing. Trump is going about it brilliantly...denying Venezuela the defense of us committing an unprovoked act of war against them.

So it is not about Fentanyl? It is not about Cartels?
LOL what a pitiful false dilemma.

So, Trump is overthrowing a Nation and Nation-building. This is similar to Iraq. Wait, that is bad. Nation building is what Haley and Bush do, not Trump. Trump is a closet Neo-Con!!!! RINO!
It will not be similar to Iraq until we invade. (Which we have every right to do).

Your thinking here is a complete mess, because all you're doing it cobbling together meaningless critiques of Orange Man Bad.

Trump Derangement Syndrome is a helluva drug...a helluva drug!

No, I am taking things you said about others when they did similar acts. This is not TDS, this is your Trump Worship Syndrome. He can't do anything wrong, even when he does what you condemned others for doing or changes the reasons.

This whole Venezuela action was sold under drug enforcement, the taking away Cartel revenue, and now you are selling it under destabilizing a government. It does not matter, whatever Trump wants to do. You will cheerlead and rubberstamp. Remarkable. Trump is just as much of a neo-con as Halley or Bush ever were.





Yeah, classic TDS.

So you wouldn't smoke cartel boats full of drugs in international waters for drug enforcement purposes alone? I would. A super-majority agrees with me (and disagrees with you). That's not "Trump Worship Syndrome." It's good politics. And its good politics on a very important issue.

If you can take an action strongly supported by the American people and punish a regime that has been sanctioned by international courts for billions of dollars over expropriation OF AMERICAN COMPANIES....that is good policy. If you can do that and cause the collapse of said regime and installation of the gal who just won the Nobel Peace Prize for opposing the regime.....you can be quite sure you are the quintessential good guy doing a good thing. Even if you are not successful in replacing the regime but only trim its sails back to where is is no longer threatening to invade neighbors, it's a good thing, right? Stability in the Americas does matter, does it not?

Geezus you have gone absolutely nutso. Poster boy for what TDS does to the mind.
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whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

J.R. said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

J.R. said:

boognish_bear said:

J.R. said:

where is the proof those were boats filled with drugs headed for the US? Haven't seen a lick of proof. This has nothing to do with drugs. All about Trump wanting the petroleum reserves and regime change.. Hey fat Lizard King....just be honest. oh, I forgot, honesty is impossible with the Lizard King!


It's from NYT...so who knows?!?



thanks! So we are blowing up boats with weed? Weed comes from Mexico and domestic US

You wanted to know if drugs were on board. Your question is now answered.


Pot? We are doing this to stop pot???

Yes, but not for the reasons you presume.

It is not economical to transport a bulky bales of pot in specialized speedboats over a 3000mi route that runs past places that also grow pot to smuggle into a place that also grows pot. but that is not terribly a terribly material consideration. We are blowing up Venezuelan drug smuggling logistics in order to destabilize Venezuelan drug cartels who are part of the ruling Venezuelan political regime. You destabilize the cartels, you also destabilize the ruling political coalition. Final destination of the drugs really doesn't matter. Every shipment destroyed starves drug cartels of cash.



Incorrect. It is nothing but a ruse. Lizard King want the Petro via regime change. Good thing fat ass didn't start a war. So, does that mean we can subtract one start of a new war for the 377 wars fat boy has settled.

You have a fairly serious reading comprehension problem. I have stated many times, including in the post you replied to that the goal was to "destabilize the ruling political coaltion" in Venezuela. That is exactly what we should be doing. Trump is going about it brilliantly...denying Venezuela the defense of us committing an unprovoked act of war against them.

So it is not about Fentanyl? It is not about Cartels?
LOL what a pitiful false dilemma.

So, Trump is overthrowing a Nation and Nation-building. This is similar to Iraq. Wait, that is bad. Nation building is what Haley and Bush do, not Trump. Trump is a closet Neo-Con!!!! RINO!
It will not be similar to Iraq until we invade. (Which we have every right to do).

Your thinking here is a complete mess, because all you're doing it cobbling together meaningless critiques of Orange Man Bad.

Trump Derangement Syndrome is a helluva drug...a helluva drug!

No, I am taking things you said about others when they did similar acts. This is not TDS, this is your Trump Worship Syndrome. He can't do anything wrong, even when he does what you condemned others for doing or changes the reasons.

This whole Venezuela action was sold under drug enforcement, the taking away Cartel revenue, and now you are selling it under destabilizing a government. It does not matter, whatever Trump wants to do. You will cheerlead and rubberstamp. Remarkable. Trump is just as much of a neo-con as Halley or Bush ever were.





Yeah, classic TDS.

So you wouldn't smoke cartel boats full of drugs in international waters for drug enforcement purposes alone? I would. A super-majority agrees with me (and disagrees with you). That's not "Trump Worship Syndrome." It's good politics. And its good politics on a very important issue.

If you can take an action strongly supported by the American people and punish a regime that has been sanctioned by international courts for billions of dollars over expropriation OF AMERICAN COMPANIES....that is good policy. If you can do that and cause the collapse of said regime and installation of the gal who just won the Nobel Peace Prize for opposing the regime.....you can be quite sure you are the quintessential good guy doing a good thing. Even if you are not successful in replacing the regime but only trim its sails back to where is is no longer threatening to invade neighbors, it's a good thing, right? Stability in the Americas does matter, does it not?

Geezus you have gone absolutely nutso. Poster boy for what TDS does to the mind.


You've finally done it. Every last known piece of covert-slash-intelligence war propaganda bull**** succinctly summarized in one solitary post, and you didn't even run over 500 words.

Kudos to you, sir.
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whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

J.R. said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

J.R. said:

boognish_bear said:

J.R. said:

where is the proof those were boats filled with drugs headed for the US? Haven't seen a lick of proof. This has nothing to do with drugs. All about Trump wanting the petroleum reserves and regime change.. Hey fat Lizard King....just be honest. oh, I forgot, honesty is impossible with the Lizard King!


It's from NYT...so who knows?!?



thanks! So we are blowing up boats with weed? Weed comes from Mexico and domestic US

You wanted to know if drugs were on board. Your question is now answered.


Pot? We are doing this to stop pot???

Yes, but not for the reasons you presume.

It is not economical to transport a bulky bales of pot in specialized speedboats over a 3000mi route that runs past places that also grow pot to smuggle into a place that also grows pot. but that is not terribly a terribly material consideration. We are blowing up Venezuelan drug smuggling logistics in order to destabilize Venezuelan drug cartels who are part of the ruling Venezuelan political regime. You destabilize the cartels, you also destabilize the ruling political coalition. Final destination of the drugs really doesn't matter. Every shipment destroyed starves drug cartels of cash.



Incorrect. It is nothing but a ruse. Lizard King want the Petro via regime change. Good thing fat ass didn't start a war. So, does that mean we can subtract one start of a new war for the 377 wars fat boy has settled.

You have a fairly serious reading comprehension problem. I have stated many times, including in the post you replied to that the goal was to "destabilize the ruling political coaltion" in Venezuela. That is exactly what we should be doing. Trump is going about it brilliantly...denying Venezuela the defense of us committing an unprovoked act of war against them.

So it is not about Fentanyl? It is not about Cartels?
LOL what a pitiful false dilemma.

So, Trump is overthrowing a Nation and Nation-building. This is similar to Iraq. Wait, that is bad. Nation building is what Haley and Bush do, not Trump. Trump is a closet Neo-Con!!!! RINO!
It will not be similar to Iraq until we invade. (Which we have every right to do).

Your thinking here is a complete mess, because all you're doing it cobbling together meaningless critiques of Orange Man Bad.

Trump Derangement Syndrome is a helluva drug...a helluva drug!

No, I am taking things you said about others when they did similar acts. This is not TDS, this is your Trump Worship Syndrome. He can't do anything wrong, even when he does what you condemned others for doing or changes the reasons.

This whole Venezuela action was sold under drug enforcement, the taking away Cartel revenue, and now you are selling it under destabilizing a government. It does not matter, whatever Trump wants to do. You will cheerlead and rubberstamp. Remarkable. Trump is just as much of a neo-con as Halley or Bush ever were.





Yeah, classic TDS.

So you wouldn't smoke cartel boats full of drugs in international waters for drug enforcement purposes alone? I would. A super-majority agrees with me (and disagrees with you). That's not "Trump Worship Syndrome." It's good politics. And its good politics on a very important issue.

If you can take an action strongly supported by the American people and punish a regime that has been sanctioned by international courts for billions of dollars over expropriation OF AMERICAN COMPANIES....that is good policy. If you can do that and cause the collapse of said regime and installation of the gal who just won the Nobel Peace Prize for opposing the regime.....you can be quite sure you are the quintessential good guy doing a good thing. Even if you are not successful in replacing the regime but only trim its sails back to where is is no longer threatening to invade neighbors, it's a good thing, right? Stability in the Americas does matter, does it not?

Geezus you have gone absolutely nutso. Poster boy for what TDS does to the mind.



Admire your patience.
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whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

J.R. said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

J.R. said:

boognish_bear said:

J.R. said:

where is the proof those were boats filled with drugs headed for the US? Haven't seen a lick of proof. This has nothing to do with drugs. All about Trump wanting the petroleum reserves and regime change.. Hey fat Lizard King....just be honest. oh, I forgot, honesty is impossible with the Lizard King!


It's from NYT...so who knows?!?



thanks! So we are blowing up boats with weed? Weed comes from Mexico and domestic US

You wanted to know if drugs were on board. Your question is now answered.


Pot? We are doing this to stop pot???

Yes, but not for the reasons you presume.

It is not economical to transport a bulky bales of pot in specialized speedboats over a 3000mi route that runs past places that also grow pot to smuggle into a place that also grows pot. but that is not terribly a terribly material consideration. We are blowing up Venezuelan drug smuggling logistics in order to destabilize Venezuelan drug cartels who are part of the ruling Venezuelan political regime. You destabilize the cartels, you also destabilize the ruling political coalition. Final destination of the drugs really doesn't matter. Every shipment destroyed starves drug cartels of cash.



Incorrect. It is nothing but a ruse. Lizard King want the Petro via regime change. Good thing fat ass didn't start a war. So, does that mean we can subtract one start of a new war for the 377 wars fat boy has settled.

You have a fairly serious reading comprehension problem. I have stated many times, including in the post you replied to that the goal was to "destabilize the ruling political coaltion" in Venezuela. That is exactly what we should be doing. Trump is going about it brilliantly...denying Venezuela the defense of us committing an unprovoked act of war against them.

So it is not about Fentanyl? It is not about Cartels?
LOL what a pitiful false dilemma.

So, Trump is overthrowing a Nation and Nation-building. This is similar to Iraq. Wait, that is bad. Nation building is what Haley and Bush do, not Trump. Trump is a closet Neo-Con!!!! RINO!
It will not be similar to Iraq until we invade. (Which we have every right to do).

Your thinking here is a complete mess, because all you're doing it cobbling together meaningless critiques of Orange Man Bad.

Trump Derangement Syndrome is a helluva drug...a helluva drug!

No, I am taking things you said about others when they did similar acts. This is not TDS, this is your Trump Worship Syndrome. He can't do anything wrong, even when he does what you condemned others for doing or changes the reasons.

This whole Venezuela action was sold under drug enforcement, the taking away Cartel revenue, and now you are selling it under destabilizing a government. It does not matter, whatever Trump wants to do. You will cheerlead and rubberstamp. Remarkable. Trump is just as much of a neo-con as Halley or Bush ever were.





Yeah, classic TDS.

So you wouldn't smoke cartel boats full of drugs in international waters for drug enforcement purposes alone? I would. A super-majority agrees with me (and disagrees with you). That's not "Trump Worship Syndrome." It's good politics. And its good politics on a very important issue.

If you can take an action strongly supported by the American people and punish a regime that has been sanctioned by international courts for billions of dollars over expropriation OF AMERICAN COMPANIES....that is good policy. If you can do that and cause the collapse of said regime and installation of the gal who just won the Nobel Peace Prize for opposing the regime.....you can be quite sure you are the quintessential good guy doing a good thing. Even if you are not successful in replacing the regime but only trim its sails back to where is is no longer threatening to invade neighbors, it's a good thing, right? Stability in the Americas does matter, does it not?

Geezus you have gone absolutely nutso. Poster boy for what TDS does to the mind.



Wow, you are full out Trump loyalist. He cannot do anything wrong and whatever "explanation du jour" he gives on any given day is enough for you. You need to step back and re-evaluate why you so blanketly need to accept anything he says.

Given a choice, i will scrutinize politicians actions too much over becoming a lackey that rubber stamps whatever a leader says. Too much scrutiny never led to "just following orders" issues.

Did you see we blew up another pot boat to destabilize Venezuela ...


https://theloop.ecpr.eu/explaining-the-trump-loyalty-cult-phenomenon/
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Sam Lowry said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

J.R. said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

J.R. said:

boognish_bear said:

J.R. said:

where is the proof those were boats filled with drugs headed for the US? Haven't seen a lick of proof. This has nothing to do with drugs. All about Trump wanting the petroleum reserves and regime change.. Hey fat Lizard King....just be honest. oh, I forgot, honesty is impossible with the Lizard King!


It's from NYT...so who knows?!?



thanks! So we are blowing up boats with weed? Weed comes from Mexico and domestic US

You wanted to know if drugs were on board. Your question is now answered.


Pot? We are doing this to stop pot???

Yes, but not for the reasons you presume.

It is not economical to transport a bulky bales of pot in specialized speedboats over a 3000mi route that runs past places that also grow pot to smuggle into a place that also grows pot. but that is not terribly a terribly material consideration. We are blowing up Venezuelan drug smuggling logistics in order to destabilize Venezuelan drug cartels who are part of the ruling Venezuelan political regime. You destabilize the cartels, you also destabilize the ruling political coalition. Final destination of the drugs really doesn't matter. Every shipment destroyed starves drug cartels of cash.



Incorrect. It is nothing but a ruse. Lizard King want the Petro via regime change. Good thing fat ass didn't start a war. So, does that mean we can subtract one start of a new war for the 377 wars fat boy has settled.

You have a fairly serious reading comprehension problem. I have stated many times, including in the post you replied to that the goal was to "destabilize the ruling political coaltion" in Venezuela. That is exactly what we should be doing. Trump is going about it brilliantly...denying Venezuela the defense of us committing an unprovoked act of war against them.

So it is not about Fentanyl? It is not about Cartels?
LOL what a pitiful false dilemma.

So, Trump is overthrowing a Nation and Nation-building. This is similar to Iraq. Wait, that is bad. Nation building is what Haley and Bush do, not Trump. Trump is a closet Neo-Con!!!! RINO!
It will not be similar to Iraq until we invade. (Which we have every right to do).

Your thinking here is a complete mess, because all you're doing it cobbling together meaningless critiques of Orange Man Bad.

Trump Derangement Syndrome is a helluva drug...a helluva drug!

No, I am taking things you said about others when they did similar acts. This is not TDS, this is your Trump Worship Syndrome. He can't do anything wrong, even when he does what you condemned others for doing or changes the reasons.

This whole Venezuela action was sold under drug enforcement, the taking away Cartel revenue, and now you are selling it under destabilizing a government. It does not matter, whatever Trump wants to do. You will cheerlead and rubberstamp. Remarkable. Trump is just as much of a neo-con as Halley or Bush ever were.





Yeah, classic TDS.

So you wouldn't smoke cartel boats full of drugs in international waters for drug enforcement purposes alone? I would. A super-majority agrees with me (and disagrees with you). That's not "Trump Worship Syndrome." It's good politics. And its good politics on a very important issue.

If you can take an action strongly supported by the American people and punish a regime that has been sanctioned by international courts for billions of dollars over expropriation OF AMERICAN COMPANIES....that is good policy. If you can do that and cause the collapse of said regime and installation of the gal who just won the Nobel Peace Prize for opposing the regime.....you can be quite sure you are the quintessential good guy doing a good thing. Even if you are not successful in replacing the regime but only trim its sails back to where is is no longer threatening to invade neighbors, it's a good thing, right? Stability in the Americas does matter, does it not?

Geezus you have gone absolutely nutso. Poster boy for what TDS does to the mind.


You've finally done it. Every last known piece of covert-slash-intelligence war propaganda bull**** succinctly summarized in one solitary post, and you didn't even run over 500 words.

Kudos to you, sir.

The kudos are due to the Trump foreign policy team. They've got Venezuela AND Iran on the verge of collapse at the same time, which of course saps attention and resources from their sponsors - Russia and China.
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The rebuilding of US foreign policy ; while concurrently repairing the US economy….. is less less than miraculous.

For the first time in a long while am actually optimistic about the prospects for the New Year..
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KaiBear said:

The rebuilding of US foreign policy ; while concurrently repairing the US economy….. is less less than miraculous.

For the first time in a long while am actually optimistic about the prospects for the New Year..

Me too. And if Trump hadn't come along, Harris had won, we would be in total distress as a nation right about now
"It always seems impossible until it's done." – Nelson Mandela
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Assassin said:

KaiBear said:

The rebuilding of US foreign policy ; while concurrently repairing the US economy….. is less less than miraculous.

For the first time in a long while am actually optimistic about the prospects for the New Year..

Me too. And if Trump hadn't come along, Harris had won, we would be in total distress as a nation right about now

Aren't we past Trump vs Harris? Yeah, everyone agrees Harris was a disaster. Biden was a disaster. That does not mean how Trump is doing things is OK. They are unrelated.

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FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

KaiBear said:

The rebuilding of US foreign policy ; while concurrently repairing the US economy….. is less less than miraculous.

For the first time in a long while am actually optimistic about the prospects for the New Year..

Me too. And if Trump hadn't come along, Harris had won, we would be in total distress as a nation right about now

Aren't we past Trump vs Harris? Yeah, everyone agrees Harris was a disaster. Biden was a disaster. That does not mean how Trump is doing things is OK. They are unrelated.


You sound like someone who voted for said disaster and is determined to repeat that mistake.
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canoso said:

FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

KaiBear said:

The rebuilding of US foreign policy ; while concurrently repairing the US economy….. is less less than miraculous.

For the first time in a long while am actually optimistic about the prospects for the New Year..

Me too. And if Trump hadn't come along, Harris had won, we would be in total distress as a nation right about now

Aren't we past Trump vs Harris? Yeah, everyone agrees Harris was a disaster. Biden was a disaster. That does not mean how Trump is doing things is OK. They are unrelated.



You sound like someone who voted for said disaster and is determined to repeat that mistake.

Determined to try and hold this Administration accountable and for Congress to get off its ass...
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FLBear5630 said:

canoso said:

FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

KaiBear said:

The rebuilding of US foreign policy ; while concurrently repairing the US economy….. is less less than miraculous.

For the first time in a long while am actually optimistic about the prospects for the New Year..

Me too. And if Trump hadn't come along, Harris had won, we would be in total distress as a nation right about now

Aren't we past Trump vs Harris? Yeah, everyone agrees Harris was a disaster. Biden was a disaster. That does not mean how Trump is doing things is OK. They are unrelated.



You sound like someone who voted for said disaster and is determined to repeat that mistake.

Determined to try and hold this Administration accountable and for Congress to get off its ass...


Accountable? What has Trump done for which he needs to be held accountable?

Just because you perceive some sort of questionable action does not mean Trump is outside the lines. Congress does not owe you an investigation to prove the President has acted within his authority. Rather, armed with more facts than you have, Congress has already determined that there is nothing to see and as such, there is no need to investigate.

The system is working by design.
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GrowlTowel said:

FLBear5630 said:

canoso said:

FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

KaiBear said:

The rebuilding of US foreign policy ; while concurrently repairing the US economy….. is less less than miraculous.

For the first time in a long while am actually optimistic about the prospects for the New Year..

Me too. And if Trump hadn't come along, Harris had won, we would be in total distress as a nation right about now

Aren't we past Trump vs Harris? Yeah, everyone agrees Harris was a disaster. Biden was a disaster. That does not mean how Trump is doing things is OK. They are unrelated.



You sound like someone who voted for said disaster and is determined to repeat that mistake.

Determined to try and hold this Administration accountable and for Congress to get off its ass...


Accountable? What has Trump done for which he needs to be held accountable?

Just because you perceive some sort of questionable action does not mean Trump is outside the lines. Congress does not owe you an investigation to prove the President has acted within his authority. Rather, armed with more facts than you have, Congress has already determined that there is nothing to see and as such, there is no need to investigate.

The system is working by design.

It is working? So we have immigration legislation? We have health care legislation? We have an actual budget?

And YES the Congress and Supreme Court does owe us to make sure the President acts within his Authority.


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FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

KaiBear said:

The rebuilding of US foreign policy ; while concurrently repairing the US economy….. is less less than miraculous.

For the first time in a long while am actually optimistic about the prospects for the New Year..

Me too. And if Trump hadn't come along, Harris had won, we would be in total distress as a nation right about now

Aren't we past Trump vs Harris? Yeah, everyone agrees Harris was a disaster. Biden was a disaster. That does not mean how Trump is doing things is OK. They are unrelated.

We will never be past what Harris would have done to this country if she was elected. Never!
"It always seems impossible until it's done." – Nelson Mandela
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canoso said:

FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

KaiBear said:

The rebuilding of US foreign policy ; while concurrently repairing the US economy….. is less less than miraculous.

For the first time in a long while am actually optimistic about the prospects for the New Year..

Me too. And if Trump hadn't come along, Harris had won, we would be in total distress as a nation right about now

Aren't we past Trump vs Harris? Yeah, everyone agrees Harris was a disaster. Biden was a disaster. That does not mean how Trump is doing things is OK. They are unrelated.



You sound like someone who voted for said disaster and is determined to repeat that mistake.

Ignoring the past is not a good stance
"It always seems impossible until it's done." – Nelson Mandela
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Assassin said:

FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

KaiBear said:

The rebuilding of US foreign policy ; while concurrently repairing the US economy….. is less less than miraculous.

For the first time in a long while am actually optimistic about the prospects for the New Year..

Me too. And if Trump hadn't come along, Harris had won, we would be in total distress as a nation right about now

Aren't we past Trump vs Harris? Yeah, everyone agrees Harris was a disaster. Biden was a disaster. That does not mean how Trump is doing things is OK. They are unrelated.

We will never be past what Harris would have done to this country if she was elected. Never!

: )

There is too much real **** in the world to worry about what could have been and thankfully never was...
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FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

KaiBear said:

The rebuilding of US foreign policy ; while concurrently repairing the US economy….. is less less than miraculous.

For the first time in a long while am actually optimistic about the prospects for the New Year..

Me too. And if Trump hadn't come along, Harris had won, we would be in total distress as a nation right about now

Aren't we past Trump vs Harris? Yeah, everyone agrees Harris was a disaster. Biden was a disaster. That does not mean how Trump is doing things is OK. They are unrelated.

We will never be past what Harris would have done to this country if she was elected. Never!

: )

There is too much real **** in the world to worry about what could have been and thankfully never was...

Historical negationism, also called historical denialism, is the trivialization of the historical record. Not a smart tactic by anyone
"It always seems impossible until it's done." – Nelson Mandela
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Assassin said:

canoso said:

FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

KaiBear said:

The rebuilding of US foreign policy ; while concurrently repairing the US economy….. is less less than miraculous.

For the first time in a long while am actually optimistic about the prospects for the New Year..

Me too. And if Trump hadn't come along, Harris had won, we would be in total distress as a nation right about now

Aren't we past Trump vs Harris? Yeah, everyone agrees Harris was a disaster. Biden was a disaster. That does not mean how Trump is doing things is OK. They are unrelated.



You sound like someone who voted for said disaster and is determined to repeat that mistake.

Ignoring the past is not a good stance

those who ignore the past are likely to return to arby's........

- confusedus

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boognish_bear said:



So how many soldiers and sailors did we lose in the "Venezuelan War"? How many destroyers? Frigates? Troop carriers? Fighters? Bombers?
"It always seems impossible until it's done." – Nelson Mandela
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boognish_bear said:



WAR.

- UF

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boognish_bear said:


It's about fentanyl and stuff…
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ATL Bear said:

boognish_bear said:



It's about fentanyl and stuff…

apparently so

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the reactions are oh so predictable.

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J.R. said:

where is the proof those were boats filled with drugs headed for the US? Haven't seen a lick of proof. This has nothing to do with drugs. All about Trump wanting the petroleum reserves and regime change.. Hey fat Lizard King....just be honest. oh, I forgot, honesty is impossible with the Lizard King!

If he could do this AND keep WTI north of $70 you'd be cool with both though.
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FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

KaiBear said:

The rebuilding of US foreign policy ; while concurrently repairing the US economy….. is less less than miraculous.

For the first time in a long while am actually optimistic about the prospects for the New Year..

Me too. And if Trump hadn't come along, Harris had won, we would be in total distress as a nation right about now

Aren't we past Trump vs Harris? Yeah, everyone agrees Harris was a disaster. Biden was a disaster. That does not mean how Trump is doing things is OK. They are unrelated.

We will never be past what Harris would have done to this country if she was elected. Never!

: )

There is too much real **** in the world to worry about what could have been and thankfully never was...

You have a weird way of showing your thanks
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Basically kidnapped another country's leader. I won't shed tears for this one, but this action is inappropriate for any President to carry out unilaterally. Congress should have weighed in. They do need to restrict Trump's power. Do their job.
 
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