SIC EM 94 said:

---

TV55 said:

---

SIC EM 94 said:

---

TV55 said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

Lying racist regents

---

Such an easy narrative, isn't it? Goes down like Kool Aid....

We all know this is a final money grab by the plaintiffs lawyers. They see the school, the program and the fan base have moved on (except for the 3 of you here on this board and your 10 fake accounts each where you circle <bleep> each other's comments).

Let's read BU counsels rebuttal to these revelations and THEN decide, right?

---

Spoken like a good little BOR clown. You are a fool if you believe "the program and the fan base have moved on". You can wish that were the case all you want, but the only ones pushing the whole "moving on" agenda are those ultimately responsible for this sh*t show to begin with!

---

Not really. It's been, what, over 2 years? You really should move on or seek professional help doing so. Living in the past is no way to lead a productive future.

I wish you the best. I really do.

---

I'm not going to stop supporting Baylor financially, or quit going to football games, just because a handful of people have yet to be held accountable for this mess. Sure it sucks that that same handful of POS individuals benefit from my loyalty to Baylor, but I will never let them drive me away from my school. In addition, I will never "move on" from wanting the individuals responsible for this disaster to be held accountable and face the consequences of their complete failure.

---

GruntTuff said:

---

What I'm afraid will happen is that given the events of today, Baylor's settlement offers will increase to the point the plaintiffs will fold. When that happens it will be difficult, if not impossible, for the truth to ever come out.

Then we'd be stuck with the same band of brothers going forward, but with immense damage having been done and those with dirt on their hands walk......and deny......and deflect.......hoping people forget. Most will.

---

gobears20 said:

---

<a href="https://ibb.co/ecqqN8"><img src="" alt="BCBE9_EC6_5_FE0_4_C50_8_DDE_A5_B4_F6_C55_D7_F" border="0"></a>
<a href="https://ibb.co/ftDAN8"><img src="" alt="3060_B0_A4_B491_4_E61_BAE0_18727623_F806" border="0"></a>
<a href="https://ibb.co/gk0728"><img src="" alt="0_D2_CA804_98_F0_4728_A902_2960763_ECE8_D" border="0"></a>
<a href="https://ibb.co/geqkpo"><img src="" alt="C9570_CEE_F61_D_4_C7_D_B05_E_10_C63_BB8_DA20" border="0"></a>
<a href="https://ibb.co/fAa728"><img src="" alt="8_C2_F282_E_7343_422_F_926_E_07173_B4715_A2" border="0"></a>
<a href="https://ibb.co/d1jd9o"><img src="" alt="00_E3_DAD1_2_D13_4_D18_ADAD_683379_E7_AE4_B" border="0"></a>

---

bastroposo said:

---

Are the things reported actually things Ian said or what Plaintifs' attorneys claim in a motion that Ian said?

---

gobears20 said:

---

---

TellMeYouLoveMe said:

---

What did the Richard, the Dildo salesman know and when did he know it?

---

Stranger said:

---

TV55 said:

---

GruntTuff said:

---

In most situations like this, the truth eventually finds its way to the light of day.

Buddy and Dary ran Baylor like their own private business. Remember the email from Buddy about the drinking sorority girls? Think for a moment about what kind of person would send that email?

This was the guy in charge....forget the university president....forget anybody....he ran the place.

So, if any of you folks think it would be not be in his nature to hide facts that didn't fit his narrative, you're far worse than sticking your head in the sand.

If this is true (and remember, this was testimony taken under oath, under threat of perjury) Baylor may be in immense trouble. Conferences don't like a member school being ascribed as racist at the top.

This deal is still unraveling, but ultimately this testimony, if true, could result in serious scrutiny by the Big 12 as to whether it wants to retain Baylor as a member.

---

I don't know any of the people you mention (Buddy and Deary) but your insinuation that a couple of dudes singlehandedly ran Baylor is laugh out loud funny. Same for the reference to being in trouble with the Big 12 (our current AD was just named to an NCAA committee...which completely bunker busts your wild ass theories).

What else you got?

Alien involvement?
Russian government?
Kim Kardashian publicity stunt?

C'mon people ... these "revelations" come out 2+ years after The Big Disaster? Someone either wants money or is angling for a job. Seriously, these lawyers think Baylor Nation is stupid. Maybe we once were. Not anymore.

---

Maybe you're new around here so I'm not gonna call you ignorant or some such. Ask around, we've had a war around here for years (since Sloan) and Buddy and his lap dog, Dary literally ran Baylor for over a decade. They are still trying. Buddy was responsible for nearly all BOR appointments and most of them are still in those seats.
Therefore the BOR is, for the most part, still tainted with his stench.

Starr, Ian, Ramsower, Tommye Lou and others took DAILY marching orders from Buddy and Dary. Accreditation even became in danger because of the board chairman giving direct instruction to administration officials.

These rogue regents even declared an open war against the official alumni association which lasted several years and basically destroyed it before a settlement was reached.

During that time there were musical chairs in the president's office and the VPs. Two presidents were fired and a good one was run off. There was also a palace coup attempt to put one of their cronies in that seat. That attempt failed.

Though still a bit murky as to the details but Briles was dismissed by this same cartel.

The cartel still exists and holds power to this minute.

And you thought the only swamp is in Washington D.C..

Wise up.

---

SIC EM 94 said:

---

TV55 said:

---

SIC EM 94 said:

---

TV55 said:

---

Osodecentx said:

---

Lying racist regents

---

Such an easy narrative, isn't it? Goes down like Kool Aid....

We all know this is a final money grab by the plaintiffs lawyers. They see the school, the program and the fan base have moved on (except for the 3 of you here on this board and your 10 fake accounts each where you circle <bleep> each other's comments).

Let's read BU counsels rebuttal to these revelations and THEN decide, right?

---

Spoken like a good little BOR clown. You are a fool if you believe "the program and the fan base have moved on". You can wish that were the case all you want, but the only ones pushing the whole "moving on" agenda are those ultimately responsible for this sh*t show to begin with!

---

Not really. It's been, what, over 2 years? You really should move on or seek professional help doing so. Living in the past is no way to lead a productive future.

I wish you the best. I really do.

---

I'm not going to stop supporting Baylor financially, or quit going to football games, just because a handful of people have yet to be held accountable for this mess. Sure it sucks that that same handful of POS individuals benefit from my loyalty to Baylor, but I will never let them drive me away from my school. In addition, I will never "move on" from wanting the individuals responsible for this disaster to be held accountable and face the consequences of their complete failure.

---

Stranger said:

---

TV55 said:

---

GruntTuff said:

---

In most situations like this, the truth eventually finds its way to the light of day.

Buddy and Dary ran Baylor like their own private business. Remember the email from Buddy about the drinking sorority girls? Think for a moment about what kind of person would send that email?

This was the guy in charge....forget the university president....forget anybody....he ran the place.

So, if any of you folks think it would be not be in his nature to hide facts that didn't fit his narrative, you're far worse than sticking your head in the sand.

If this is true (and remember, this was testimony taken under oath, under threat of perjury) Baylor may be in immense trouble. Conferences don't like a member school being ascribed as racist at the top.

This deal is still unraveling, but ultimately this testimony, if true, could result in serious scrutiny by the Big 12 as to whether it wants to retain Baylor as a member.

---

I don't know any of the people you mention (Buddy and Deary) but your insinuation that a couple of dudes singlehandedly ran Baylor is laugh out loud funny. Same for the reference to being in trouble with the Big 12 (our current AD was just named to an NCAA committee...which completely bunker busts your wild ass theories).

What else you got?

Alien involvement?
Russian government?
Kim Kardashian publicity stunt?

C'mon people ... these "revelations" come out 2+ years after The Big Disaster? Someone either wants money or is angling for a job. Seriously, these lawyers think Baylor Nation is stupid. Maybe we once were. Not anymore.

---

Maybe you're new around here so I'm not gonna call you ignorant or some such. Ask around, we've had a war around here for years (since Sloan) and Buddy and his lap dog, Dary literally ran Baylor for over a decade. They are still trying. Buddy was responsible for nearly all BOR appointments and most of them are still in those seats.
Therefore the BOR is, for the most part, still tainted with his stench.

Starr, Ian, Ramsower, Tommye Lou and others took DAILY marching orders from Buddy and Dary. Accreditation even became in danger because of the board chairman giving direct instruction to administration officials.

These rogue regents even declared an open war against the official alumni association which lasted several years and basically destroyed it before a settlement was reached.

During that time there were musical chairs in the president's office and the VPs. Two presidents were fired and a good one was run off. There was also a palace coup attempt to put one of their cronies in that seat. That attempt failed.

Though still a bit murky as to the details but Briles was dismissed by this same cartel.

The cartel still exists and holds power to this minute.

And you thought the only swamp is in Washington D.C..

Wise up.

---

TV55 said:

---

GruntTuff said:

---

In most situations like this, the truth eventually finds its way to the light of day.

Buddy and Dary ran Baylor like their own private business. Remember the email from Buddy about the drinking sorority girls? Think for a moment about what kind of person would send that email?

This was the guy in charge....forget the university president....forget anybody....he ran the place.

So, if any of you folks think it would be not be in his nature to hide facts that didn't fit his narrative, you're far worse than sticking your head in the sand.

If this is true (and remember, this was testimony taken under oath, under threat of perjury) Baylor may be in immense trouble. Conferences don't like a member school being ascribed as racist at the top.

This deal is still unraveling, but ultimately this testimony, if true, could result in serious scrutiny by the Big 12 as to whether it wants to retain Baylor as a member.

---

I don't know any of the people you mention (Buddy and Deary) but your insinuation that a couple of dudes singlehandedly ran Baylor is laugh out loud funny. Same for the reference to being in trouble with the Big 12 (our current AD was just named to an NCAA committee...which completely bunker busts your wild ass theories).

What else you got?

Alien involvement?
Russian government?
Kim Kardashian publicity stunt?

C'mon people ... these "revelations" come out 2+ years after The Big Disaster? Someone either wants money or is angling for a job. Seriously, these lawyers think Baylor Nation is stupid. Maybe we once were. Not anymore.

---

gobears20 said:

---

---

la1037 said:

---

Gust Avrakotos said:

---

Doc Holliday said:

---

Quote:

---

McCaw said Pepper Hamilton attorneys told him there would be three potential outcomes to their report: a "detailed document," a "summary report," or "to whitewash the whole thing." He said it was ultimately decided that Baylor regent J. Cary Gray would write a "false" and "misleading finding of fact skewed to make the football program look bad and cover up the campus-wide failings."

---

Yep.

I know it, you know it, we all know it.

---

some people on this board owe me an apology. I have been saying this from the beginning.

---

I will be waiting with you for that apology.

It seems odd to me that any of this is really news. I thought this all was common knowledge among those that care to explore the truth.

---

Forest Bueller said:

---

gobears20 said:

---

---

And this is what I'm talking about when the BOR weekly dumps on the football team tore the heart out of the players.

Used as a scapegoat for University wide failure. Shame

---

EK bear said:

---

la1037 said:

---

Gust Avrakotos said:

---

Doc Holliday said:

---

Quote:

---

McCaw said Pepper Hamilton attorneys told him there would be three potential outcomes to their report: a "detailed document," a "summary report," or "to whitewash the whole thing." He said it was ultimately decided that Baylor regent J. Cary Gray would write a "false" and "misleading finding of fact skewed to make the football program look bad and cover up the campus-wide failings."

---

Yep.

I know it, you know it, we all know it.

---

some people on this board owe me an apology. I have been saying this from the beginning.

---

I will be waiting with you for that apology.

It seems odd to me that any of this is really news. I thought this all was common knowledge among those that care to explore the truth.

---

The only thing that's new is Ian is saying it publicly.

---

YoakDaddy said:

---

I might just have to join 365 and pay up so I can read the pumper's defend the BOFR.

---

D. C. Bear said:

---

Forest Bueller said:

---

gobears20 said:

---

---

And this is what I'm talking about when the BOR weekly dumps on the football team tore the heart out of the players.

Used as a scapegoat for University wide failure. Shame

---

Quite so. The players were thrown under the bus and no one in administration stood up for them in the face of vicious attacks.

---

Robert Wilson said:

---

D. C. Bear said:

---

Forest Bueller said:

---

gobears20 said:

---

---

And this is what I'm talking about when the BOR weekly dumps on the football team tore the heart out of the players.

Used as a scapegoat for University wide failure. Shame

---

Quite so. The players were thrown under the bus and no one in administration stood up for them in the face of vicious attacks.

---

Yep. That moment was a big tell as far as discerning what kind of people were running Baylor.

---

D. C. Bear said:

---

EK bear said:

---

la1037 said:

---

Gust Avrakotos said:

---

Doc Holliday said:

---

Quote:

---

McCaw said Pepper Hamilton attorneys told him there would be three potential outcomes to their report: a "detailed document," a "summary report," or "to whitewash the whole thing." He said it was ultimately decided that Baylor regent J. Cary Gray would write a "false" and "misleading finding of fact skewed to make the football program look bad and cover up the campus-wide failings."

---

Yep.

I know it, you know it, we all know it.

---

some people on this board owe me an apology. I have been saying this from the beginning.

---

I will be waiting with you for that apology.

It seems odd to me that any of this is really news. I thought this all was common knowledge among those that care to explore the truth.

---

The only thing that's new is Ian is saying it publicly.

---

He isn't saying anything publicly, there is a sealed deposition that a lawyer is referencing.

---

Stranger said:

---

TellMeYouLoveMe said:

---

One thing I can tell you for sure. Ian reads this site and spins his story accordingly.

Ian is you're reading this, you failed. Learn to exit with dignity and get the heck out.

---

Ian's main daily activity as the so called AD was to read baylorfans.com.

Ian was hired by the BOR to be nothing but a puppet AD. A ribbon clerk. Nothing more. He knew every bit of dirty sh*t (hey, that rhymed) that went on in his department for all of his years.

As someone pointed out, they fired Starr and needed Ian to hire Grobe since Starr was out of the loop. Then they named Garland who fired Ian immediately. Ian was out of his office within an hour of hiring Grobe.

Plain and simple, Ian was fired because his hands were as dirty as anybody's.

Ian is covering his own ass here folks. He was never invested in Baylor anyway. A hired gun, a carpetbagger and a ribbon clerk.

I'm not letting the BOR off the hook, by the way. Like my friend Grunt Tuff alluded, the chickens will still come home to roost.

---

Amarillobear said:

---

I believe that Ian has tried to do the right thing all along by being quiet and is only talking now because he is being drug into this mess. Patty Crawford said before that it wasn't a football problem but rather a university wide problem. Coach Barnes has stated before that he reported to JA the incident and felt that Art Briles did the right things.

Ian is finally just telling the truth about what has happened but many still want to blame he and Briles when, in fact, they were scapegoated. I wish nothing but good things for Ian and Art as I never believed that they were guilty of any wrong doing. Patty Crawford has tried to say this before but the narrative to blame the football program at all costs was the direction the BOR wanted this to go.

Judge Starr has maintained this whole time that Ian and Art were both men of great integrity. I believe that and I believe the BOR split vote on whether to fire or not fire Coach Briles was very telling.

---

witchmo said:

---

Stranger said:

---

TellMeYouLoveMe said:

---

One thing I can tell you for sure. Ian reads this site and spins his story accordingly.

Ian is you're reading this, you failed. Learn to exit with dignity and get the heck out.

---

Ian's main daily activity as the so called AD was to read baylorfans.com.

Ian was hired by the BOR to be nothing but a puppet AD. A ribbon clerk. Nothing more. He knew every bit of dirty sh*t (hey, that rhymed) that went on in his department for all of his years.

As someone pointed out, they fired Starr and needed Ian to hire Grobe since Starr was out of the loop. Then they named Garland who fired Ian immediately. Ian was out of his office within an hour of hiring Grobe.

Plain and simple, Ian was fired because his hands were as dirty as anybody's.

Ian is covering his own ass here folks. He was never invested in Baylor anyway. A hired gun, a carpetbagger and a ribbon clerk.

I'm not letting the BOR off the hook, by the way. Like my friend Grunt Tuff alluded, the chickens will still come home to roost.

---

Truth is truth even when it comes from a disreputable source.

---

Stranger said:

---

witchmo said:

---

Stranger said:

---

TellMeYouLoveMe said:

---

One thing I can tell you for sure. Ian reads this site and spins his story accordingly.

Ian is you're reading this, you failed. Learn to exit with dignity and get the heck out.

---

Ian's main daily activity as the so called AD was to read baylorfans.com.

Ian was hired by the BOR to be nothing but a puppet AD. A ribbon clerk. Nothing more. He knew every bit of dirty sh*t (hey, that rhymed) that went on in his department for all of his years.

As someone pointed out, they fired Starr and needed Ian to hire Grobe since Starr was out of the loop. Then they named Garland who fired Ian immediately. Ian was out of his office within an hour of hiring Grobe.

Plain and simple, Ian was fired because his hands were as dirty as anybody's.

Ian is covering his own ass here folks. He was never invested in Baylor anyway. A hired gun, a carpetbagger and a ribbon clerk.

I'm not letting the BOR off the hook, by the way. Like my friend Grunt Tuff alluded, the chickens will still come home to roost.

---

Truth is truth even when it comes from a disreputable source.

---

Interesting as all of this, I also predict that none of this will see a courtroom. Baylor will settle this so the truth will never, ever, be revealed to the public.

---