bubbadog said:
Osodecentx said:
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
I have a really bad feeling that Trump is going to let this go, which I think will be a huge mistake. Apparently Trump is buying the "he was killed in a fistfight" story.
What should Trump do about this?
For starters, how about closing Saudi consulates in the US for a time -- say, one year?
Use your consulates to murder other countries' citizens, and you don't get to have consulates anymore.
I'm not going to defend K's murder, but wanted to clarify his status in USA.
Khashoggi was living in the United States on an "O" visa, according to his employer the Washington Post. Also known as the "genius" visa, the O offers individuals of "extraordinary ability and achievement" temporary residence for up to three years.
Three of Khashoggi's children are US citizens, and he is believed to have been applying for a legal permanent residence in the US, also known as a green card.Trump has also argued that the
billions in arms sales to the Saudi are ultimately more important than Khashoggi's life. This position is publicly backed by just a handful of US politicians and
evangelical leader Pat Robertson. In contrast, a
growing, bipartisan group of senators and representatives are calling to investigate the disappearance and sanction any high-ranking Saudis involved.
So what kind of justice does the US owe Khashoggi? Yes, temporary residents' protections are limited under US law. But international law, the US constitution and historic precedent suggest the Trump administration does, in fact, have a responsibility to the missing journalist.
Protection under US domestic law
The US constitution protects any person on US soilno matter what their statusand US citizens overseas. In 1896,
the US Supreme Court ruled that "even an immigrant who had broken immigration law still had the right to make his case to a judge before being 'deprived of life, liberty, or property.' "
US citizens who live or travel overseas can
expect aid from the US State Department, as part of the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, a
1963 treaty. Lawful permanent residents (LPR), or
green card holders "generally are not entitled to emergency and protective services provided by the U.S. Government," the US statue says, except "when an LPR applicant has exceptionally close and strong ties to the United States, and overriding humanitarian and compassionate grounds exist."What exactly constitutes exceptional close and strong ties, or humanitarian grounds is decided on a "case by case basis," a State Department official told Quartz.
But
someone holding a temporary worker's visa, like an O-Visa, isn't technically entitled to US consular protection. If they were traveling abroad and needed assistance, they would be directed to the embassy of their own citizenship. In cases when the US is, for example, evacuating US citizens from a disaster overseas, however, it would likely also evacuate their non-citizen relatives.
https://qz.com/1428499/jamal-khashoggi-what-trump-owes-khashoggi-under-us-law-and-constitution/
