TexasScientist said:

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Florda_mike said:

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TexasScientist said:

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J.R. said:

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I like to say unbelievable, but it's not. Let's get that oil price down and screw humanity.

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Screw humanity? I understand you are in the oil business and you'd like oil prices to be higher so you can make more profit, but how does lowering prices of a commodity "screw humanity"? Again, I understand your personal reasons for disagreeing with this result and I could even understand the negative impact it could have on the Texas economy and the US economy as a whole, but "screw humanity"?

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What I meant referring to humanity was that we as a nation have to have a much higher moral compass and cannot standby and look the other way when a foreign leader orders that brutal murder of journalist from a US newspaper. Our/Trumps looking the other way continues to erode our moral leadership under Trumps. The oil price comment has to do Trump placating a thug and a Royal Family so that they will keep the price down by over producing, so not to get on Trumps bad side. Trumps want the oil price down to placate his "bubba base". Yes, that is one one of my businesses. Trump is not a free market guy. He likes to pick economic winners and losers based on nothing more than what is good for him. Same with tariffs. We are starting to see the wrong headiness of those show up in earnings and guidance and the lovely bear market we now have in equities and Oil. And BTW, Saudi ain't our friends.

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Nor is anyone else in the Middle East, save Israel, our friend. Our way of life is counter to their fanatical religious beliefs.

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Israel is not our friend. The only country Israel cares about is Israel, and they care about us only insofar as how much support they can get from us and how much we will defend them when they commit human rights violations against Arabs living in Israel.

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Name an Islamist country that cares about another country over itself

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Name any country that cares about another country over itself. I don't think there is one.

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^^^ USA under obama

NOTE - He bowed ..... and no telling what else he did behind closed doors!

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Do you think Trump did the same thing with Putin behind closed doors? BTW - I'm not an Obama fan.

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Prove you're not "obama fan?" Gimme a negative of him?

Benghazi

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Benghazi

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What did obama have to do with Benghazi?

He appointed Hillary Secretary of State.

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Fake news. Have a Caesar salad.

So you're now saying your NYT is fake news?

Get a friggin grip snowflake!

This guy was a Muslim Brotherhood supporter/apologist. The Saudi king is actively working against radical muslims and rooting them out of power, ala Pinochet. This was a net gain to our world, not a loss. And it was only different in method from Obama droning US citizens.

If you're upset by the killing of a terrorist mouthpiece, that's your issue.

This is what statists do, they sanction extra-judicial killings.

Of course Trump isn't going to suggest sanctions against S.A. because bin Salmon tortured and murdered a journalist critical of him.

Trump would do the same thing to Jim Acosta and other journalists who criticize him and his policies on a regular basis if he could get away with it. He tried to do the next-best thing--banish Acosta from the White House Press Corps, but the courts wouldn't let him. So now--suprise surprise--Trump is taking every opportunity to complain about the courts and try to delegitimize their role in maintaining the critical balance of power necessary to democracy.

The only free speech Trump supports is his own. He wants everybody else to put up, shut up and fall in line. And so do his followers. Democracy is not their primary value; power is.

Buddha Bear said:

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TexasScientist said:

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J.R. said:

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I like to say unbelievable, but it's not. Let's get that oil price down and screw humanity.

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Screw humanity? I understand you are in the oil business and you'd like oil prices to be higher so you can make more profit, but how does lowering prices of a commodity "screw humanity"? Again, I understand your personal reasons for disagreeing with this result and I could even understand the negative impact it could have on the Texas economy and the US economy as a whole, but "screw humanity"?

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What I meant referring to humanity was that we as a nation have to have a much higher moral compass and cannot standby and look the other way when a foreign leader orders that brutal murder of journalist from a US newspaper. Our/Trumps looking the other way continues to erode our moral leadership under Trumps. The oil price comment has to do Trump placating a thug and a Royal Family so that they will keep the price down by over producing, so not to get on Trumps bad side. Trumps want the oil price down to placate his "bubba base". Yes, that is one one of my businesses. Trump is not a free market guy. He likes to pick economic winners and losers based on nothing more than what is good for him. Same with tariffs. We are starting to see the wrong headiness of those show up in earnings and guidance and the lovely bear market we now have in equities and Oil. And BTW, Saudi ain't our friends.

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Nor is anyone else in the Middle East, save Israel, our friend. Our way of life is counter to their fanatical religious beliefs.

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Israel is not our friend. The only country Israel cares about is Israel, and they care about us only insofar as how much support they can get from us and how much we will defend them when they commit human rights violations against Arabs living in Israel.

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Name an Islamist country that cares about another country over itself

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Name any country that cares about another country over itself. I don't think there is one.

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But some want us to

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This guy was a Muslim Brotherhood supporter/apologist. The Saudi king is actively working against radical muslims and rooting them out of power, ala Pinochet. This was a net gain to our world, not a loss. And it was only different in method from Obama droning US citizens.

If you're upset by the killing of a terrorist mouthpiece, that's your issue.

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Meanwhile in reality, the Saudis have jailed and tortured women's rights advocates for speaking out, and they still support radical islamist groups in Syria. So much for that liberalization and expansion of freedoms people were hoping for with the young blood taking over. The Kingdom doesn't care about the Muslim Brotherhood's theology by the way, they only care that it's an anti-monarchy organization.

I'm not all that surprised the really hardcore Trumpists would support the cold-blooded murder of a US journalist, they are despicable people by and large so that's predictable, but what gets me is how easily y'all swallow Trump's blatant lies about it. Trump has such little respect for his base of support that he knows he can feed them obvious bullsh*t, and they'll accept it with a dutiful smile while he keeps stuffing his pockets.

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This is what statists do, they sanction extra-judicial killings.

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^^^ This is what Socialists "useful idiots" do

They sanction or allow Socialism to rot the good within and are oblivious to what they do!

Quash is a fool

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This is what statists do, they sanction extra-judicial killings.

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^^^ This is what Socialists "useful idiots" do

They sanction or allow Socialism to rot the good within and are oblivious to what they do!

Quash is a fool

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If I trigger you put me back on ignore.

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This guy was a Muslim Brotherhood supporter/apologist. The Saudi king is actively working against radical muslims and rooting them out of power, ala Pinochet. This was a net gain to our world, not a loss. And it was only different in method from Obama droning US citizens.

If you're upset by the killing of a terrorist mouthpiece, that's your issue.

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you are just a hateful, small, little fella.

Buddha Bear said:

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Let's not pretend that Khashoggi was some kind of saint.

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Woah. So, he deserved to be killed?

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No but there's no need no need to blow up the relationship with one of our two most critical Middle East allies over a dude that wasn't even an American citizen

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Ya we do. Saudi's are the top 3 worst human rights offenders in the world. We snuggle up to them because of ARAMCO and arms deals. They need us more than we need them. They deserve the China treatment.

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I'm tired of being the world's policemen.

I wish all countries were honorable and did the right thing all the time.

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GolemIII said:

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This guy was a Muslim Brotherhood supporter/apologist. The Saudi king is actively working against radical muslims and rooting them out of power, ala Pinochet. This was a net gain to our world, not a loss. And it was only different in method from Obama droning US citizens.

If you're upset by the killing of a terrorist mouthpiece, that's your issue.

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Meanwhile in reality, the Saudis have jailed and tortured women's rights advocates for speaking out, and they still support radical islamist groups in Syria. So much for that liberalization and expansion of freedoms people were hoping for with the young blood taking over. The Kingdom doesn't care about the Muslim Brotherhood's theology by the way, they only care that it's an anti-monarchy organization.

I'm not all that surprised the really hardcore Trumpists would support the cold-blooded murder of a US journalist, they are despicable people by and large so that's predictable, but what gets me is how easily y'all swallow Trump's blatant lies about it. Trump has such little respect for his base of support that he knows he can feed them obvious bullsh*t, and they'll accept it with a dutiful smile while he keeps stuffing his pockets.

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NO one supports that so I hope you really don't think that. You seem like one of the more reasonable posters on here.

I hope you read some of those articles we posted above. It's amazing people are so outraged about this when Obama's buddies in IRAN persecute Christians woman and say Death to America and Israel on a daily basis yet we ignored all that and not only did a deal w/ them but gave them billions of dollars to continue sponsoring terrorism that kills thousands of innocent people. Yet for some reason the media completely ignores thousands of innocent murders and somehow focuses on 1?

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GolemIII said:

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This guy was a Muslim Brotherhood supporter/apologist. The Saudi king is actively working against radical muslims and rooting them out of power, ala Pinochet. This was a net gain to our world, not a loss. And it was only different in method from Obama droning US citizens.

If you're upset by the killing of a terrorist mouthpiece, that's your issue.

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you are just a hateful, small, little fella.

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To what do you object?

1. The fact Obama did the EXACT same thing w drones?
2. The fact that this guy was a radical Muslim terrorist apologist?
3. The modernization of KSA and the ridding it of radical muslims by the new regime?

You seem to value some Muslim terrorists and Obama's extrajudicial killing of others. Which personality is using your handle right now?

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This is what statists do, they sanction extra-judicial killings.

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Like your support for Obama using drones? Yeah. The difference is, to be a statist, is to advocate your own country take over the lives of its citizens (like you advocate). To observe the value of foreign government actions is just a foreign policy discussion.

GolemIII said:

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This is what statists do, they sanction extra-judicial killings.

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Like your support for Obama using drones? Yeah. The difference is, to be a statist, is to advocate your own country take over the lives of its citizens (like you advocate). To observe the value of foreign government actions is just a foreign policy discussion.

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What do drones have to do with killing a journalist?

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GolemIII said:

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This guy was a Muslim Brotherhood supporter/apologist. The Saudi king is actively working against radical muslims and rooting them out of power, ala Pinochet. This was a net gain to our world, not a loss. And it was only different in method from Obama droning US citizens.

If you're upset by the killing of a terrorist mouthpiece, that's your issue.

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Everything in this post is a blatant lie. Sorry Kremlin

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Pull head out

Killing by governments for "national security" reasons has always happened and will never stop power brokers from doing it and they'll continue immune from prosecution as much as we hate it

I some of you knew who's been killed in our country for "national security" reasoned it would change you

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GolemIII said:

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This guy was a Muslim Brotherhood supporter/apologist. The Saudi king is actively working against radical muslims and rooting them out of power, ala Pinochet. This was a net gain to our world, not a loss. And it was only different in method from Obama droning US citizens.

If you're upset by the killing of a terrorist mouthpiece, that's your issue.

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you are just a hateful, small, little fella.

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To what do you object?

1. The fact Obama did the EXACT same thing w drones?
2. The fact that this guy was a radical Muslim terrorist apologist?
3. The modernization of KSA and the ridding it of radical muslims by the new regime?

You seem to value some Muslim terrorists and Obama's extrajudicial killing of others. Which personality is using your handle right now?

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Firstly, stay on topic.
1)Obama is not President and not on topic
2)Just how would you know that? That Limberger fell tell you?
3)KSM not relevant to topic

Wrong. Im for killing ever single terrorist today. Obama isn't President. Same. Sig Heil

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GolemIII said:

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This is what statists do, they sanction extra-judicial killings.

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Like your support for Obama using drones? Yeah. The difference is, to be a statist, is to advocate your own country take over the lives of its citizens (like you advocate). To observe the value of foreign government actions is just a foreign policy discussion.

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What do drones have to do with killing a journalist?

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Obama killed a radical Muslim propagandist (and his son) with a drone. KSA killed a radical muslim propagandist by hand. The outcome and motivations are identical. Yet you overlook Obama

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This guy was a Muslim Brotherhood supporter/apologist. The Saudi king is actively working against radical muslims and rooting them out of power, ala Pinochet. This was a net gain to our world, not a loss. And it was only different in method from Obama droning US citizens.

If you're upset by the killing of a terrorist mouthpiece, that's your issue.

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Everything in this post is a blatant lie. Sorry Kremlin

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Nope. It's all true. That ruins your leftist narrative though, so cry away.

J.R. said:

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J.R. said:

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GolemIII said:

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This guy was a Muslim Brotherhood supporter/apologist. The Saudi king is actively working against radical muslims and rooting them out of power, ala Pinochet. This was a net gain to our world, not a loss. And it was only different in method from Obama droning US citizens.

If you're upset by the killing of a terrorist mouthpiece, that's your issue.

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you are just a hateful, small, little fella.

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To what do you object?

1. The fact Obama did the EXACT same thing w drones?
2. The fact that this guy was a radical Muslim terrorist apologist?
3. The modernization of KSA and the ridding it of radical muslims by the new regime?

You seem to value some Muslim terrorists and Obama's extrajudicial killing of others. Which personality is using your handle right now?

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Firstly, stay on topic.
1)Obama is not President and not on topic
2)Just how would you know that? That Limberger fell tell you?
3)KSM not relevant to topic

Wrong. Im for killing ever single terrorist today. Obama isn't President. Same. Sig Heil

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You're a moron if you don't see it's precisely on topic. So I believe you don't see it.

Ps. Thanks for demonstrating you're a nazi. That clears up some things.

GolemIII said:

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J.R. said:

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GolemIII said:

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This guy was a Muslim Brotherhood supporter/apologist. The Saudi king is actively working against radical muslims and rooting them out of power, ala Pinochet. This was a net gain to our world, not a loss. And it was only different in method from Obama droning US citizens.

If you're upset by the killing of a terrorist mouthpiece, that's your issue.

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you are just a hateful, small, little fella.

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To what do you object?

1. The fact Obama did the EXACT same thing w drones?
2. The fact that this guy was a radical Muslim terrorist apologist?
3. The modernization of KSA and the ridding it of radical muslims by the new regime?

You seem to value some Muslim terrorists and Obama's extrajudicial killing of others. Which personality is using your handle right now?

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Firstly, stay on topic.
1)Obama is not President and not on topic
2)Just how would you know that? That Limberger fell tell you?
3)KSM not relevant to topic

Wrong. Im for killing ever single terrorist today. Obama isn't President. Same. Sig Heil

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You're a moron if you don't see it's precisely on topic. So I believe you don't see it.

Ps. Thanks for demonstrating you're a nazi. That clears up some things.

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no, you are the far right cray cray, type. That comment was directed at you, you clown.

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Buddha Bear said:

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Gunny Hartman said:

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Edmond Bear said:

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Let's not pretend that Khashoggi was some kind of saint.

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Woah. So, he deserved to be killed?

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No but there's no need no need to blow up the relationship with one of our two most critical Middle East allies over a dude that wasn't even an American citizen

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Ya we do. Saudi's are the top 3 worst human rights offenders in the world. We snuggle up to them because of ARAMCO and arms deals. They need us more than we need them. They deserve the China treatment.

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I'm tired of being the world's policemen.

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Yeah! You got wombs to police!

GolemIII said:

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quash said:

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This is what statists do, they sanction extra-judicial killings.

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Like your support for Obama using drones? Yeah. The difference is, to be a statist, is to advocate your own country take over the lives of its citizens (like you advocate). To observe the value of foreign government actions is just a foreign policy discussion.

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Except that I have, consistently , opposed the use of drones. I said years ago that when the rest of the world gets this technology they are going to follow the rules we are making.
And you again with the lies about what I advocate.

GolemIII said:

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This guy was a Muslim Brotherhood supporter/apologist. The Saudi king is actively working against radical muslims and rooting them out of power, ala Pinochet. This was a net gain to our world, not a loss. And it was only different in method from Obama droning US citizens.

If you're upset by the killing of a terrorist mouthpiece, that's your issue.

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Golem is a master at making two very different situations seem relevant.

fadskier said:

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Buddha Bear said:

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Gunny Hartman said:

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Edmond Bear said:

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Eastside Bear said:

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Let's not pretend that Khashoggi was some kind of saint.

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Woah. So, he deserved to be killed?

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No but there's no need no need to blow up the relationship with one of our two most critical Middle East allies over a dude that wasn't even an American citizen

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Ya we do. Saudi's are the top 3 worst human rights offenders in the world. We snuggle up to them because of ARAMCO and arms deals. They need us more than we need them. They deserve the China treatment.

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I'm tired of being the world's policemen.

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Same here. Let's cut our budgets across the board and stop being the world police.

Buddha Bear said:

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GolemIII said:

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This guy was a Muslim Brotherhood supporter/apologist. The Saudi king is actively working against radical muslims and rooting them out of power, ala Pinochet. This was a net gain to our world, not a loss. And it was only different in method from Obama droning US citizens.

If you're upset by the killing of a terrorist mouthpiece, that's your issue.

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Golem is a master at making two very different situations seem relevant.

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The situations are the same. They are precisely the same. A leader of a nation killed a citizen of his country on foreign soil because he was a terrorist mouthpiece. That description applies equally to Anwar al-Awlaki and to Khashoggi.

J.R. said:

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GolemIII said:

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J.R. said:

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GolemIII said:

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J.R. said:

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GolemIII said:

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This guy was a Muslim Brotherhood supporter/apologist. The Saudi king is actively working against radical muslims and rooting them out of power, ala Pinochet. This was a net gain to our world, not a loss. And it was only different in method from Obama droning US citizens.

If you're upset by the killing of a terrorist mouthpiece, that's your issue.

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you are just a hateful, small, little fella.

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To what do you object?

1. The fact Obama did the EXACT same thing w drones?
2. The fact that this guy was a radical Muslim terrorist apologist?
3. The modernization of KSA and the ridding it of radical muslims by the new regime?

You seem to value some Muslim terrorists and Obama's extrajudicial killing of others. Which personality is using your handle right now?

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Firstly, stay on topic.
1)Obama is not President and not on topic
2)Just how would you know that? That Limberger fell tell you?
3)KSM not relevant to topic

Wrong. Im for killing ever single terrorist today. Obama isn't President. Same. Sig Heil

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You're a moron if you don't see it's precisely on topic. So I believe you don't see it.

Ps. Thanks for demonstrating you're a nazi. That clears up some things.

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no, you are the far right cray cray, type. That comment was directed at you, you clown.

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You can keep your nazi love to yourself. I don't want any part of your evil ideology. How on earth can you think praising hitler like that is ok? You are a sick man.