fadskier said:
Jinx 2 said:
fadskier said:
Jinx 2 said:
Canada2017 said:
Jinx 2 said:
Nick Sandmann's family hired a PR firm:
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2019/01/21/covington-catholic-runswitch-pr-helped-student-in-controversial-video/2638400002/
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So what ?
Oh wait.....forgot.....kid wore a MAGA hat so the rest of his life is forfeit.
Said life to be put under a relentless social media microscope and attacked.
Carry on.
The P.R. firm did what a good lawyer would have done: Help Nick Sandmann tell his story in a way that made him look good. That's called spin.
I don't think the videos--any of them--support his being scared or confused, as the statement suggests. It looks to me--emphasis on "to me" (this is a weird version of Rashomon)-- like he's showing off for his friends.
IMO, Nick behaved a little bit like a jerk. It wasn't his best moment. He didn't deserve death threats for it, but neither does he deserve to be hailed as a right-wing hero, which is what's now happening.
I wish a parent or school official would step forward and be more honest about this incident, but it appears that isn't going to happen because, if they do what I believe is the right thing and acknowledge Nick and the other students were part of the problem and not part of the solution, they're afraid of being attacked.
But promoting Nick Sandmann as a hero fosters the sort of entitlement that enables thoughtless abuse of poor, elderly and minority populations by adults who were taught to limit their empathy strictly to people like themselves.
Do you read your posts before you hit "post?" You are actually blaming teenagers instead of grown adults saying homophobic and racial slurs at them. You are actually blaming teenage boys for standing there and singing, etc instead of the lying man who walked up to them beating a drum...who now has changed his story several times.
Those boys did absolutely nothing wrong, except behave like teenage boys. You have become and promote a society that is quick to judge, quick to be offended, and full of hate for anyone you don't agree with.
You, ma'am, are an idiot.
We try teenagers as adults on some charges and even give them the death penalty in this country. Expecting teens, especially kids who go to a Catholic school where respecting your elders and being polite even when others are not are probably values taught (they were at the Catholic school my daugthers attended) to behave better than they did is entirely reasonable.
Given the kids' use of phones to videotape and take photos, as a parent whose child was involved in this sorry, over-covered little incident, I'd confiscate the phone, and the kid wouldn't get another until he could pay for the device and the plan. And I'd help him find some public service projects dealing with both minority communities, since the Hebrew Isrealites are no more representative of the black community as a whole than incels are represntative of young men in general, or conservative men on this site who tell people to STFU or make crude sexual innuendos are representative of typical Christians.
These kids DID NOT commit a crime. Do you have any sense at all or are you just full of hate for Trump that you spew this crap out?!? They were not misbehaving. If your read/listen to what they said, they thought that they guy was coming to up join their chanting and signing with his drum. I've watched the video numerous times and have yet to find anything those KIDS did wrong. Funny how you find no fault with the adults in this video. You seemingly excuse the Black Hebrews for calling the kids ***g**ts, Nigg**s, and calling out teh black catholic kid. Why are you bringing up who people represent? This is about grown adults hurling insults and teenagers and a Native American man lying about what happened.
You haven't read my posts if you think I excuse the Hebrew Israelites. They were clearly the agitators--and I'd have considered them a danger if I'd been chaparoning those boys and hustled the kids away from them ASAP. They were also grown-ups, so they don't have the excuse of youth for their behavior, their crude comments, and the things they yelled at the boys.
The boys responded predictably, but not admirably. They weren't, as someone suggested, just sitting there waiting for the bus. They responded like typical teenage boys. Is "Turn the other cheek" still considered a Christian virtue? How about "A soft answer turneth away wrath." Old Testament, but a valid strategy in dangerous situations like this.
Nathan Phillips intervened, and I honestly think he was well-intentioned--try to get between the kids and the Hebrew Israelites, who represented the real danger.
I don't think Nick Sandmann understood what Phillips was trying to do, but his behavior strikes me as rude.
it's interesting how people on the right criticize him for beating a drum and singing a chant--not exactly aggressive conduct, given the name-calling that was going on. Weird, yes, but certainly not criminal or aggressive.
These videos are like Rashomon--everybody seems to see something different.
And no, I don't like Trump, but this had nothing to do with him, other than that several boys were wearing MAGA hats, which probably attracted the attention of the Hebrews Israelites. Trump might also be one reason why we can't have a civil conversation about what's acceptable and what's not in terms of public behavior without it devolving into screaming at each other.
But I'm not screaming, nor have I attacked you personally because we disagree about whether these boys deserve some censure for their part in this sorry little scene.
