BaylorFTW said:

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Another pollster now claiming Trump will take Arizona

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Just FYI, the Biden lead in AZ is down to 39,769.

It was 93K not that long ago.

Like PA and GA did FOR Biden, AZ is slowly eroding against him.

The problem now is the media pressure on Trump to concede. AZ is good news but we are not ahead yet, and we are behind now in GA and PA and MI and NV, and we need at least 2 of those to be able to win,

Count on the media to sell the "it's over" story. Got to stay calm and keep the counts honest.

bear2be2 said:

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BaylorFTW said:

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LTbear said:

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syme said:

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We're supposed to believe that Milwaukee, Detroit, and philly voters were so excited for Biden that they left the rest of the ballot completely blank.

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There is a growing list of 14+ thousand dead people who voted in Wayne County (Detroit)

That is half of Bidens lead... no fraud though

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If true it will be easily proven in court, so there's nothing to worry about.

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There is always something to worry about with our corrupt legal system especially when we are talking about politics. The fact is if there was nothing to worry about, we would have never come to this point in the first place. Instead, we are seeing a clear crisis of ethics and/or morality in the country.

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So basically, everything is corrupt except Trump, the support for whose cause is a litmus test for morals and ethics. Do you not see how culty that sounds/is?

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To be fair, that's the main reason Trump got elected in the first place.... an outsider to fight the corrupt political system that has infected every corner in almost every office of leadership in Washington DC.

If you want to call that culty.... then whatever.

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It's one thing to fall for that initially. It's quite another to still be spouting that nonsense after four years of incompetence and conflicts of interest.

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I guess I fail to see the incompetence? I see him getting harassed for 3.5 years by a bs politically motivated investigation that was baseless. I see his policy on prison reform helping minorities. I see him creating policies that led to a great economy that was wrecked by a virus that you can not stop because it is a virus, not like it was the red army. I see the economy bouncing back after the lock downs even though many democrats are still locking down their economy. I see his policies changing the Middle East, I see a President who finally brought troops home instead of starting wars. Was he perfect no, does he need to learn when to shut up and stop tweeting, yes. But to state that he was incompetent is ignoring alot of great accomplishments no matter what side you are on.

Will Trump only be a footnote in history? We will see. Depending on who the next President and what happens to our country he could be remembered very favorably.

Used to be, historians had a 20-year waiting period before they would opine on a President. Said it took that long for any valid perspective to set in.

These days, no one waits 20 days before speaking out of emotion, including academics.

BaylorFTW said:

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As predicted, Georgia will have at least a recount. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/06/georgia-secretary-of-state-results-too-close-to-call-there-will-be-a-recount/

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Sounds like a recount is appropriate, but you have to count the vote before you can recount it

Nominations are now open for who will replace Sen Harris of CA.

Sen Schiff??

Aliceinbubbleland said:

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Nominations are now open for who will replace Sen Harris of CA.

Sen Schiff??

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Since they closed Disneyland, it may be fitting for Goofy or Minnie Mouse to take the seat. They'd be more competent than most candidates.

Oldbear83 said:

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The problem now is the media pressure on Trump to concede. AZ is good news but we are not ahead yet, and we are behind now in GA and PA and MI and NV, and we need at least 2 of those to be able to win,

Count on the media to sell the "it's over" story. Got to stay calm and keep the counts honest.

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The media has no credibility. Conservatives only mainly watch Fox and they will just remind the AP and Fox about their terrible early Arizona prediction.

And Rich Baris says that when all the votes are counted, Georgia will flip back to Trump. And if he gets Arizona right there is little reason to question him about Georgia. Plus, there is going to be a recount in Georgia and people are going to find fraudulent ballots so Biden will lose his small lead in Georgia. And then the media will have to begrudgingly acknowledge that too.

The reality is things will be going over more and more to the court system and it is going to be very ugly and very political and conservatives are going to learn just how corrupt our judicial system is. Ultimately, we are going to find out first hand if those Trump appointees are loyal or are compromised.

Long story short, nothing will be over for some time.

BaylorFTW said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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The problem now is the media pressure on Trump to concede. AZ is good news but we are not ahead yet, and we are behind now in GA and PA and MI and NV, and we need at least 2 of those to be able to win,

Count on the media to sell the "it's over" story. Got to stay calm and keep the counts honest.

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The media has no credibility. Conservatives only mainly watch Fox and they will just remind the AP and Fox about their terrible early Arizona prediction.

And Rich Baris says that when all the votes are counted, Georgia will flip back to Trump. And if he gets Arizona right there is little reason to question him about Georgia. Plus, there is going to be a recount in Georgia and people are going to find fraudulent ballots so Biden will lose his small lead in Georgia. And then the media will have to begrudgingly acknowledge that too.

The reality is things will be going over more and more to the court system and it is going to be very ugly and very political and conservatives are going to learn just how corrupt our judicial system is. Ultimately, we are going to find out first hand if those Trump appointees are loyal or are compromised.

Long story short, nothing will be over for some time.

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Agreed but expect the media to put intense pressure on Republicans to cave, because that tactic has worked before with much smaller stakes.

Your hanging by your fingernails which are making a screeching sound as they go along the blackboard.

So far they have found multiple data glitches and clerical errors, interesting that all of them have been to an advantage of Biden...

We havent seen a single error corrected to favor Biden

Jack Bauer said:

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Show me the (more) money!

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They need to remove Lincoln from their name. Seriously.

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Your hanging by your fingernails which are making a screeching sound as they go along the blackboard.

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You're also talking about America when you say that.

Trump has got to hope the military vote arrives in Georgia in time to give him the lead .

This situation is getting messier by the hour .

Canada2017 said:

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Trump has got to hope the military vote arrives in Georgia in time to give him the lead .

This situation is getting messier by the hour .

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Nothing will be decided for at least another week. CNN and others will say so, but it's obvious this is a close election with recounts and legal actions in several states.

Oldbear83 said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Trump has got to hope the military vote arrives in Georgia in time to give him the lead .

This situation is getting messier by the hour .

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Nothing will be decided for at least another week. CNN and others will say so, but it's obvious this is a close election with recounts and legal actions in several states.

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I hope so.

If the military vote is counted .....Trump might just win the state .

But Trump has got to win somewhere to make all the other legal actions worthwhile .

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Texasjeremy said:

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VOTER TURNOUT BY PARTY (2016 to 2020 Differential) - SO FAR

ARIZONA (90% in)
+34.4% - Dem (+399,980)
+21.2% - Rep (+264,967)

GEORGIA (99% in)
+30.5% - Dem (+572,231)
+17.2% - Rep (+359,533)

MICHIGAN (99% in)
+23.0% - Dem (+521,809)
+16.0% - Rep (+364,985)

PENNSYLVANIA (98% in)
+13.1% - Dem (+384,337)
+11.0% - Rep (+326,721)

WISCONSIN (99% in)
+17.9% - Dem (+248,032)
+14.6% - Rep (+204,749)

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Do the other battlegrounds and even other states if it isn't too much trouble.

If Dems only won by the same amount overall, it seems fishy that they way outperformed in states needing an inexplicable amount of time to tally votes.

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VOTER TURNOUT BY PARTY (2016 to 2020 Differential) - SO FAR

ALABAMA (99%)
+112,334 - REP (+8.5%)
+104,986 - DEM (+14.4%)

ALASKA (50%)
-44,785 - REP (-27.4%)
-52,462 - DEM (-45.0%)

ARIZONA (90%)
+403,716 - DEM (+34.8%)
+272,713 - REP (+21.8%)

ARKANSAS (99%)
+70,943 - REP (+10.4%)
+37,403 - DEM (+9.8%)

CALIFORNIA (66%)
-279,566 - REP (-6.2%)
-472,284 - DEM (-5.4%)

COLORADO (93%)
+400,115 - DEM (+29.9%)
+127,505 - REP (+10.6%)

CONNECTICUT (99%)
+129,800 - DEM (+14.5%)
+41,434 - REP (+6.2%)

DELAWARE (99%)
+59,800 - DEM (+25.4%)
+14,702 - REP (+7.9%)

DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA (83%)
+2,352 - REP (+18.5%)
-14,205 - DEM (-5.0%)

FLORIDA (99%)
+1,040,963 - REP (+22.5%)
+779,478 - DEM (+17.3%)

GEORGIA (99%)
+572,428 - DEM (+30.5%)
+359,714 - REP (+17.2%)

HAWAII (96%)
+98,911 - DEM (+37.1%)
+67,755 - REP (+52.9%)

IDAHO (99%)
+144,964 - REP (+35.4%)
+97,226 - DEM (+51.2%)

ILLINOIS (91%)
+152,354 - REP (+7.1%)
-91,493 - DEM (-3.0%)

INDIANA (99%)
+206,275 - DEM (+20.0%)
+168,437 - REP (+10.8%)

IOWA (99%)
+103,986 - DEM (+15.9%)
+95,031 - REP (+11.9%)

KANSAS (99%)
+120,847 - DEM (+28.3%)
+79,577 - REP (+11.9%)

KENTUCKY (99%)
+139,227 - DEM (+22.1%)
+119,836 - REP (+10.0%)

LOUISIANA (95%)
+76,843 - REP (+6.5%)
+75,443 - DEM (+9.7%)

MAINE (99%)
+72,261 - DEM (+20.2%)
+23,813 - REP (+7.1%)

MARYLAND (78%)
-121,822 - REP (-12.9%)
-209,315 - DEM (-12.5%)

MASSACHUSETTS (99%)
+321,142 - DEM (+16.1%)
+57,884 - REP (+5.3%)

MICHIGAN (99%)
+521,809 - DEM (+23.0%)
+364,982 - REP (+16.0%)

MINNESOTA (99%)
+349,995 - DEM (+25.6%)
+161,630 - REP (+12.2%)

MISSISSIPPI (84%)
-23,496 - REP (-3.4%)
-44,847 - DEM (-9.2%)

MISSOURI (99%)
+171,783 - DEM (+16.0%)
+117,337 - REP (+7.4%)

MONTANA (99%)
+66,010 - DEM (+37.1%)
+62,527 - REP (+22.4%)

NEBRASKA (99%)
+77,532 - DEM (+27.3%)
+48,159 - REP (+9.7%)

NEVADA (87%)
+94,909 - REP (+18.5%)
+87,844 - DEM (+16.3%)

NEW HAMPSHIRE (99%)
+74,765 - DEM (+21.5%)
+19,583 - REP (+5.7%)

NEW JERSEY (74%)
-166,051 - DEM (-7.7%)
-269,469 - REP (-16.8%)

NEW MEXICO (99%)
+111,592 - DEM (+29.0%)
+80,428 - REP (+25.2%)

NEW YORK (78%)
+29,551 - REP (+1.0%)
-861,128 - DEM (-18.9%)

NORTH CAROLINA (99%)
+466,293 - DEM (+21.3%)
+369,651 - REP (+15.6%)

NORTH DAKOTA (99%)
+20,722 - DEM (+22.1%)
+18,051 - REP (+8.3%)

OHIO (96%)
+233,413 - REP (+8.2%)
+209,567 - DEM (+8.8%)

OKLAHOMA (99%)
+82,914 - DEM (+19.7%)
+69,734 - REP (+7.3%)

OREGON (91%)
+302,430 - DEM (+30.2%)
+146,303 - REP (+18.7%)

PENNSYLVANIA (98%)
+388,767 - DEM (+13.3%)
+329,750 - REP (+11.1%)

RHODE ISLAND (94%)
+44,548 - DEM (+17.6%)
+15,454 - REP (+8.6%)

SOUTH CAROLINA (94%)
+231,850 - DEM (+27.1%)
+221,729 - REP (+19.2%)

SOUTH DAKOTA (94%)
+33,309 - REP (+14.6%)
+33,000 - DEM (+28.1%)

TENNESSEE (97%)
+326,286 - REP (+21.4%)
+268,971 - DEM (+30.9%)

TEXAS (85%)
+1,333,851 - DEM (+34.4%)
+1,175,513 - REP (+25.1%)

UTAH (83%)
+170,476 - REP (+33.1%)
+129,336 - DEM (+41.6%)

VERMONT (92%)
+64,232 - DEM (+36.0%)
+17,319 - REP (+18.2%)

VIRGINIA (99%)
+358,085 - DEM (+18.1%)
+161,501 - REP (+9.1%)

WASHINGTON (85%)
+490,081 - DEM (+28.1%)
+210,408 - REP (+17.2%)

WEST VIRGINIA (99%)
+50,239 - REP (+10.3%)
+43,708 - DEM (+23.2%)

WISCONSIN (99%)
+248,033 - DEM (+17.9%)
+204,745 - REP (+14.6%)

WYOMING (97%)
+19,035 - REP (+10.9%)
+17,472 - DEM (+31.2%)

The most interesting read of the day so far.

Canada2017 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Trump has got to hope the military vote arrives in Georgia in time to give him the lead .

This situation is getting messier by the hour .

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Nothing will be decided for at least another week. CNN and others will say so, but it's obvious this is a close election with recounts and legal actions in several states.

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I hope so.

If the military vote is counted .....Trump might just win the state .

But Trump has got to win somewhere to make all the other legal actions worthwhile .

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Well, it's not my idea of a happy place, but there are two paths I can see:

Trump wins Alaska (only mention it bc it's still not called for some reason) and N Carolina to get to 232 EV, then gets Arizona back to get to 243, then flips Georgia back to get to 259.

Then winning either Michigan or Pennsylvania wins the second term.

The first part is very doable and looks like it could happen. The last part is tough, but if MI has to recount all the votes manually bc of today's discovery, that is winnable and who knows what happens in PA.

But whatever happens, it will be a long time to sort everything out and there will be a lot of noise saying it's over long before that is close to being true.

Texasjeremy said:

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midgett said:

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Texasjeremy said:

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VOTER TURNOUT BY PARTY (2016 to 2020 Differential) - SO FAR

ARIZONA (90% in)
+34.4% - Dem (+399,980)
+21.2% - Rep (+264,967)

GEORGIA (99% in)
+30.5% - Dem (+572,231)
+17.2% - Rep (+359,533)

MICHIGAN (99% in)
+23.0% - Dem (+521,809)
+16.0% - Rep (+364,985)

PENNSYLVANIA (98% in)
+13.1% - Dem (+384,337)
+11.0% - Rep (+326,721)

WISCONSIN (99% in)
+17.9% - Dem (+248,032)
+14.6% - Rep (+204,749)

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Do the other battlegrounds and even other states if it isn't too much trouble.

If Dems only won by the same amount overall, it seems fishy that they way outperformed in states needing an inexplicable amount of time to tally votes.

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VOTER TURNOUT BY PARTY (2016 to 2020 Differential) - SO FAR

ALABAMA (99%)
+112,334 - REP (+8.5%)
+104,986 - DEM (+14.4%)

ALASKA (50%)
-44,785 - REP (-27.4%)
-52,462 - DEM (-45.0%)

ARIZONA (90%)
+403,716 - DEM (+34.8%)
+272,713 - REP (+21.8%)

ARKANSAS (99%)
+70,943 - REP (+10.4%)
+37,403 - DEM (+9.8%)

CALIFORNIA (66%)
-279,566 - REP (-6.2%)
-472,284 - DEM (-5.4%)

COLORADO (93%)
+400,115 - DEM (+29.9%)
+127,505 - REP (+10.6%)

CONNECTICUT (99%)
+129,800 - DEM (+14.5%)
+41,434 - REP (+6.2%)

DELAWARE (99%)
+59,800 - DEM (+25.4%)
+14,702 - REP (+7.9%)

DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA (83%)
+2,352 - REP (+18.5%)
-14,205 - DEM (-5.0%)

FLORIDA (99%)
+1,040,963 - REP (+22.5%)
+779,478 - DEM (+17.3%)

GEORGIA (99%)
+572,428 - DEM (+30.5%)
+359,714 - REP (+17.2%)

HAWAII (96%)
+98,911 - DEM (+37.1%)
+67,755 - REP (+52.9%)

IDAHO (99%)
+144,964 - REP (+35.4%)
+97,226 - DEM (+51.2%)

ILLINOIS (91%)
+152,354 - REP (+7.1%)
-91,493 - DEM (-3.0%)

INDIANA (99%)
+206,275 - DEM (+20.0%)
+168,437 - REP (+10.8%)

IOWA (99%)
+103,986 - DEM (+15.9%)
+95,031 - REP (+11.9%)

KANSAS (99%)
+120,847 - DEM (+28.3%)
+79,577 - REP (+11.9%)

KENTUCKY (99%)
+139,227 - DEM (+22.1%)
+119,836 - REP (+10.0%)

LOUISIANA (95%)
+76,843 - REP (+6.5%)
+75,443 - DEM (+9.7%)

MAINE (99%)
+72,261 - DEM (+20.2%)
+23,813 - REP (+7.1%)

MARYLAND (78%)
-121,822 - REP (-12.9%)
-209,315 - DEM (-12.5%)

MASSACHUSETTS (99%)
+321,142 - DEM (+16.1%)
+57,884 - REP (+5.3%)

MICHIGAN (99%)
+521,809 - DEM (+23.0%)
+364,982 - REP (+16.0%)

MINNESOTA (99%)
+349,995 - DEM (+25.6%)
+161,630 - REP (+12.2%)

MISSISSIPPI (84%)
-23,496 - REP (-3.4%)
-44,847 - DEM (-9.2%)

MISSOURI (99%)
+171,783 - DEM (+16.0%)
+117,337 - REP (+7.4%)

MONTANA (99%)
+66,010 - DEM (+37.1%)
+62,527 - REP (+22.4%)

NEBRASKA (99%)
+77,532 - DEM (+27.3%)
+48,159 - REP (+9.7%)

NEVADA (87%)
+94,909 - REP (+18.5%)
+87,844 - DEM (+16.3%)

NEW HAMPSHIRE (99%)
+74,765 - DEM (+21.5%)
+19,583 - REP (+5.7%)

NEW JERSEY (74%)
-166,051 - DEM (-7.7%)
-269,469 - REP (-16.8%)

NEW MEXICO (99%)
+111,592 - DEM (+29.0%)
+80,428 - REP (+25.2%)

NEW YORK (78%)
+29,551 - REP (+1.0%)
-861,128 - DEM (-18.9%)

NORTH CAROLINA (99%)
+466,293 - DEM (+21.3%)
+369,651 - REP (+15.6%)

NORTH DAKOTA (99%)
+20,722 - DEM (+22.1%)
+18,051 - REP (+8.3%)

OHIO (96%)
+233,413 - REP (+8.2%)
+209,567 - DEM (+8.8%)

OKLAHOMA (99%)
+82,914 - DEM (+19.7%)
+69,734 - REP (+7.3%)

OREGON (91%)
+302,430 - DEM (+30.2%)
+146,303 - REP (+18.7%)

PENNSYLVANIA (98%)
+388,767 - DEM (+13.3%)
+329,750 - REP (+11.1%)

RHODE ISLAND (94%)
+44,548 - DEM (+17.6%)
+15,454 - REP (+8.6%)

SOUTH CAROLINA (94%)
+231,850 - DEM (+27.1%)
+221,729 - REP (+19.2%)

SOUTH DAKOTA (94%)
+33,309 - REP (+14.6%)
+33,000 - DEM (+28.1%)

TENNESSEE (97%)
+326,286 - REP (+21.4%)
+268,971 - DEM (+30.9%)

TEXAS (85%)
+1,333,851 - DEM (+34.4%)
+1,175,513 - REP (+25.1%)

UTAH (83%)
+170,476 - REP (+33.1%)
+129,336 - DEM (+41.6%)

VERMONT (92%)
+64,232 - DEM (+36.0%)
+17,319 - REP (+18.2%)

VIRGINIA (99%)
+358,085 - DEM (+18.1%)
+161,501 - REP (+9.1%)

WASHINGTON (85%)
+490,081 - DEM (+28.1%)
+210,408 - REP (+17.2%)

WEST VIRGINIA (99%)
+50,239 - REP (+10.3%)
+43,708 - DEM (+23.2%)

WISCONSIN (99%)
+248,033 - DEM (+17.9%)
+204,745 - REP (+14.6%)

WYOMING (97%)
+19,035 - REP (+10.9%)
+17,472 - DEM (+31.2%)

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Thanks, jeremy. In general, it appears that Dems increased their turnout more than Reps. I wonder if that suggests more Dems jumped party lines that Reps. So the increased Dem turnout in the battleground states may be much ado about nothing.

BTW, jeremy, you have always been one of my favorite posters. You post detailed data and avoid all the opinionated nonsense (me looking in the mirror).

Oldbear83 said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Trump has got to hope the military vote arrives in Georgia in time to give him the lead .

This situation is getting messier by the hour .

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Nothing will be decided for at least another week. CNN and others will say so, but it's obvious this is a close election with recounts and legal actions in several states.

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I hope so.

If the military vote is counted .....Trump might just win the state .

But Trump has got to win somewhere to make all the other legal actions worthwhile .

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Well, it's not my idea of a happy place, but there are two paths I can see:

Trump wins Alaska (only mention it bc it's still not called for some reason) and N Carolina to get to 232 EV, then gets Arizona back to get to 243, then flips Georgia back to get to 259.

Then winning either Michigan or Pennsylvania wins the second term.

The first part is very doable and looks like it could happen. The last part is tough, but if MI has to recount all the votes manually bc of today's discovery, that is winnable and who knows what happens in PA.

But whatever happens, it will be a long time to sort everything out and there will be a lot of noise saying it's over long before that is close to being true.

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The pressure to quit will grow every day .

Though I suspect Trump has been through similar battles in his businesses .

Doubt he quits at any point and possibly he shouldn't .

But there is going to be damage .

ATL Bear said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Show me the (more) money!

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They need to remove Lincoln from their name. Seriously.

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We need to go back to candidates that get crushed by the Dems!

Canada2017 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Trump has got to hope the military vote arrives in Georgia in time to give him the lead .

This situation is getting messier by the hour .

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Nothing will be decided for at least another week. CNN and others will say so, but it's obvious this is a close election with recounts and legal actions in several states.

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I hope so.

If the military vote is counted .....Trump might just win the state .

But Trump has got to win somewhere to make all the other legal actions worthwhile .

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I find it very odd that all these "discovered" ballots really only affected the presidential race and not any congressional races! I think it may have cost John James of MI his, but haven't heard any others. Trump is not going to leave the WH until and if SCOTUS gets it. It is a tough call bc Article 2 says the state legislatures are to make the rules for election methods, but my problem with that is timing. Proof should be made available that ballots are legal and if not thrown out. That could be SCOTUS issue since this is a federal issue, but the lines are quite blurry.

Biden is not going to make it man. That is scarier than Trump leaving due to Harris. However, I am very impressed with the number of REAL Trump voters for 2024 and the mid-terms. Let em peddle all he socialism crap they want and you will see a landslide in 2024...if we ever have another election that is unlike Putin.

Joe up to 4.2k lead in GA

FOR STATES WITH A SENATE RACE

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN VOTES FOR PRESIDENT & VOTES FOR SENATOR
+More president votes
-More senator votes

ALASKA (50%)
+2,630 - DEM
-376 - REP

ALABAMA (99%)
+48,651 - REP
-70,150 - DEM

ARIZONA (90%)
+20,389 - REP
-38,837 - DEM

COLORADO (95%)
+70,579 - DEM
-63,197 - REP

DELAWARE (99%)
+14,413 - REP
+4,420 - DEM

GEORGIA (99%)
+98,557 - DEM
-992 - REP

IOWA (99%)
+32,608 - REP
+4,148 - DEM

IDAHO (99%)
+16,563 - REP
+1,161 - DEM

ILLINOIS (91%)
+169,336 - DEM
+123,165 - REP

KANSAS (99%)
+41,682 - REP
-1,831 - DEM

KENTUCKY (99%)
+93,234 - REP
-43,670 - DEM

MASSACHUSETTS (99%)
+25,827 - DEM
-6,850 - REP

MAINE (99%)
+87,322 - DEM
-55,469 - REP

MICHIGAN (99%)
+69,441 - DEM
+7,633 - REP

MINNESOTA (99%)
+150,502 - DEM
-86,073 - REP

MISSISSIPPI (84%)
+44,217 - REP
-36,031 - DEM

MONTANA (99%)
+10,353 - REP
-27,490 - DEM

NORTH CAROLINA (99%)
+111,715 - DEM
+91,728 - REP

NEBRASKA (99%)
+143,410 - DEM
-25,748 - REP

NEW HAMPSHIRE (99%)
+41,033 - REP
-26,420 - DEM

NEW JERSEY (73%)
+55,491 - DEM
+34,300 - REP

NEW MEXICO (99%)
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Jack Bauer said:

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Show me the (more) money!

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They need to remove Lincoln from their name. Seriously.

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We need to go back to candidates that get crushed by the Dems!

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This is what they all do. The very thing they did they accuse R's for it . This has been going on for 4 yrs and someone or some group knows what happened. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Clintons were the puppeteers in all this. It had to come from somewhere. They weaponized everything so why not the virus to allow mail ins. Never in this country have we done this. But I suppose it worked for them and they want us to capitulate again and again and again. I will not!

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Jack Bauer said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Show me the (more) money!

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They need to remove Lincoln from their name. Seriously.

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We need to go back to candidates that get crushed by the Dems!

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This is what they all do. The very thing they did they accuse R's for it . This has been going on for 4 yrs and someone or some group knows what happened. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Clintons were the puppeteers in all this. It had to come from somewhere. They weaponized everything so why not the virus to allow mail ins. Never in this country have we done this. But I suppose it worked for them and they want us to capitulate again and again and again. I will not!

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Steve Schmidt ran McCain's campaign which probably had one of the worst turnout for minorities in modern history. So excuse me if I don't feel like being lectured by this limp ****.

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Trump has got to hope the military vote arrives in Georgia in time to give him the lead .

This situation is getting messier by the hour .

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Nothing will be decided for at least another week. CNN and others will say so, but it's obvious this is a close election with recounts and legal actions in several states.

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I hope so.

If the military vote is counted .....Trump might just win the state .

But Trump has got to win somewhere to make all the other legal actions worthwhile .

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Well, it's not my idea of a happy place, but there are two paths I can see:

Trump wins Alaska (only mention it bc it's still not called for some reason) and N Carolina to get to 232 EV, then gets Arizona back to get to 243, then flips Georgia back to get to 259.

Then winning either Michigan or Pennsylvania wins the second term.

The first part is very doable and looks like it could happen. The last part is tough, but if MI has to recount all the votes manually bc of today's discovery, that is winnable and who knows what happens in PA.

But whatever happens, it will be a long time to sort everything out and there will be a lot of noise saying it's over long before that is close to being true.

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The pressure to quit will grow every day .

Though I suspect Trump has been through similar battles in his businesses .

Doubt he quits at any point and possibly he shouldn't .

But there is going to be damage .

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At this point it does not matter. Either fight to the death or walk away and don't say a word...no transition no nothing. DO NOT attend any inauguration unless it is your own. Just walk away. Then you have 2 choices. Since you've transformed the R party keep up the attacks indefinitely or go dark. I really don't know what is the best thing right this moment.

Since there is an absolute zero percent chance Biden wins Alaska, can they just go ahead and call the state for Trump.

It will have no implication as far as Trump winning, he won't.

But, come on man. AK is not up in the air.

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Since there is an absolute zero percent chance Biden wins Alaska, can they just go ahead and call the state for Trump.

It will have no implication as far as Trump winning, he won't.

But, come on man. AK is not up in the air.

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It's weird they haven't. I guess AK not counting anymore votes until 11/12 is the reason.

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We're supposed to believe that Milwaukee, Detroit, and philly voters were so excited for Biden that they left the rest of the ballot completely blank.

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There is a growing list of 14+ thousand dead people who voted in Wayne County (Detroit)

That is half of Bidens lead... no fraud though

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If true it will be easily proven in court, so there's nothing to worry about.

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There is always something to worry about with our corrupt legal system especially when we are talking about politics. The fact is if there was nothing to worry about, we would have never come to this point in the first place. Instead, we are seeing a clear crisis of ethics and/or morality in the country.

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So basically, everything is corrupt except Trump, the support for whose cause is a litmus test for morals and ethics. Do you not see how culty that sounds/is?

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To be fair, that's the main reason Trump got elected in the first place.... an outsider to fight the corrupt political system that has infected every corner in almost every office of leadership in Washington DC.

If you want to call that culty.... then whatever.

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It's one thing to fall for that initially. It's quite another to still be spouting that nonsense after four years of incompetence and conflicts of interest.

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That's where Trump supporters (Myself included) and you disagree. You believe he was incompetent and we believe he wasn't. Getting rid of the personal mandate, moving the US Embassy like promised, passing the tax cuts, the middle east peace deals, renegotiating NAFTA, etc....

You may not agree with the positions, but if he was incompetent like you say, he would've accomplished ZERO.... nothing is further from the truth.

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Trump has got to hope the military vote arrives in Georgia in time to give him the lead .

This situation is getting messier by the hour .

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Nothing will be decided for at least another week. CNN and others will say so, but it's obvious this is a close election with recounts and legal actions in several states.

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I hope so.

If the military vote is counted .....Trump might just win the state .

But Trump has got to win somewhere to make all the other legal actions worthwhile .

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Well, it's not my idea of a happy place, but there are two paths I can see:

Trump wins Alaska (only mention it bc it's still not called for some reason) and N Carolina to get to 232 EV, then gets Arizona back to get to 243, then flips Georgia back to get to 259.

Then winning either Michigan or Pennsylvania wins the second term.

The first part is very doable and looks like it could happen. The last part is tough, but if MI has to recount all the votes manually bc of today's discovery, that is winnable and who knows what happens in PA.

But whatever happens, it will be a long time to sort everything out and there will be a lot of noise saying it's over long before that is close to being true.

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The pressure to quit will grow every day .

Though I suspect Trump has been through similar battles in his businesses .

Doubt he quits at any point and possibly he shouldn't .

But there is going to be damage .

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I would agree and also say that I believe that after the last 4 years and the behavior against the president.... damage has already been done

Jeremy, very interesting, thanks for posting. Seeing that shocks me that the Republicans did as well in the house as they did (and the Senate for that matter). Had to be some substantial party members crossing lines I would guess.