DS Bear said:
What was with the pooch kick? Is that as far as she can kick it? Was it to ensure that she didn't have to take part in a tackle? If the answer to either of those questions is "yes", then a woman still has not played in a power five game.
Clap? "Good for her"? What exactly was her accomplishment? That she was successfully inserted into an artificial situation and used as a stunt in order to create a completely false and contrived sense of "equality"? How is this a positive story for either women OR the integrity of the game?Bear8084 said:This. I hate it when R&P leaks over here. It's a positive story whether you like it or not. Just clap and move on like most of us have. Good for her.bear2be2 said:
You guys are some miserable sum*****es. And hilariously insecure ones, too.
If this threatens or offends you in any way, you are the very definition of a snowflake.
Jack Bauer said:
My daughter, a soccer player, was extremely underwhelmed at her kick.
I have no skin in the game. The coach asked her to step in and she did. Good for her. If it inspires you or your child, then good for you.
This is a feel good story at best but it is not ground breaking. She did not win this position, she got it only through Covid-19 attrition. Have we lowered the bar for women's equality that a 30 yard squib kick is now "historical"? This would be like if a women came off the bench of a NBA game and made 2 technical foul free throws.
SEC twitter said she "has changed the game". Good grief.
These are the same people that think white men and American Christians are being persecuted. They have a complex.Bear8084 said:
Like I said, good for her and a positive story. Some of y'all seem to get mad at the weirdest things.
bear2be2 said:Bear8084 said:
Like I said, good for her and a positive story. Some of y'all seem to get mad at the weirdest things.
More access to opportunity is always a good thing and should always be celebrated. There's nothing to be threatened by here, fellas.
bear2be2 said:
You guys are some miserable sum*****es. And hilariously insecure ones, too.
If this threatens or offends you in any way, you are the very definition of a snowflake.
More access to opportunity? Any female is free to tryout for college football or the NFL. Some girls kick for their high school team. If they earn the spot, then good for them.bear2be2 said:These are the same people that think white men and American Christians are being persecuted. They have a complex.Bear8084 said:
Like I said, good for her and a positive story. Some of y'all seem to get mad at the weirdest things.
More access to opportunity is always a good thing and should always be celebrated. There's nothing to be threatened by here, fellas.
If you think that's a strawman, you haven't read this thread ... or followed history. As is always the case when barriers are broken, there are a bunch of middle-aged men here and elsewhere threatened and offended by the fact that a woman was given an opportunity and is being celebrated for it.Jack Bauer said:More access to opportunity? Any female is free to tryout for college football or the NFL. Some girls kick for their high school team. If they earn the spot, then good for them.bear2be2 said:These are the same people that think white men and American Christians are being persecuted. They have a complex.Bear8084 said:
Like I said, good for her and a positive story. Some of y'all seem to get mad at the weirdest things.
More access to opportunity is always a good thing and should always be celebrated. There's nothing to be threatened by here, fellas.
If a female could hit 50 yard field goals consistently for Baylor, I would be her biggest fan. Nobody celebrates 30 yard squib kickoffs in college football as ground breaking.
Stop with your strawman arguments.
bear2be2 said:If you think that's a strawman, you haven't read this thread ... or followed history. As is always the case when barriers are broken, there are a bunch of middle-aged men here and elsewhere threatened and offended by the fact that a woman was given an opportunity and is being celebrated for it.Jack Bauer said:More access to opportunity? Any female is free to tryout for college football or the NFL. Some girls kick for their high school team. If they earn the spot, then good for them.bear2be2 said:These are the same people that think white men and American Christians are being persecuted. They have a complex.Bear8084 said:
Like I said, good for her and a positive story. Some of y'all seem to get mad at the weirdest things.
More access to opportunity is always a good thing and should always be celebrated. There's nothing to be threatened by here, fellas.
If a female could hit 50 yard field goals consistently for Baylor, I would be her biggest fan. Nobody celebrates 30 yard squib kickoffs in college football as ground breaking.
Stop with your strawman arguments.
So it's up to you freedom-loving heroes to tell others what they should or shouldn't be doing with their lives and protect them from themselves? Got it.Carlos Safety said:I think it is the middle aged men who realize that the PC induced congratulations cease once one of these girls get caught in the scrum or have to take a full speed hit. Prudence and sobriety today will avoid a committee inquiry into a girl's injuries tomorrow.bear2be2 said:If you think that's a strawman, you haven't read this thread ... or followed history. As is always the case when barriers are broken, there are a bunch of middle-aged men here and elsewhere threatened and offended by the fact that a woman was given an opportunity and is being celebrated for it.Jack Bauer said:More access to opportunity? Any female is free to tryout for college football or the NFL. Some girls kick for their high school team. If they earn the spot, then good for them.bear2be2 said:These are the same people that think white men and American Christians are being persecuted. They have a complex.Bear8084 said:
Like I said, good for her and a positive story. Some of y'all seem to get mad at the weirdest things.
More access to opportunity is always a good thing and should always be celebrated. There's nothing to be threatened by here, fellas.
If a female could hit 50 yard field goals consistently for Baylor, I would be her biggest fan. Nobody celebrates 30 yard squib kickoffs in college football as ground breaking.
Stop with your strawman arguments.
He didn't throw her into kick as a stunt. She was the only kicker on a decimated roster and that was Vandy's only kickoff of the game. She was there by request to handle all of their kicking duties.ilbb990912 said:
The Vandy coach pulled off a genius move.
He barely kept his job last year, they're 0-8 this year and getting rocked by Missouri 41-0..He throws her in to kick off a 30 yard kick, and the next day headlines are about a modern day Joan of Arc in our midst!
Who gives a S- - t about winning anymore?
bear2be2 said:So it's up to you freedom-loving heroes to tell others what they should or shouldn't be doing with their lives and protect them from themselves? Got it.Carlos Safety said:I think it is the middle aged men who realize that the PC induced congratulations cease once one of these girls get caught in the scrum or have to take a full speed hit. Prudence and sobriety today will avoid a committee inquiry into a girl's injuries tomorrow.bear2be2 said:If you think that's a strawman, you haven't read this thread ... or followed history. As is always the case when barriers are broken, there are a bunch of middle-aged men here and elsewhere threatened and offended by the fact that a woman was given an opportunity and is being celebrated for it.Jack Bauer said:More access to opportunity? Any female is free to tryout for college football or the NFL. Some girls kick for their high school team. If they earn the spot, then good for them.bear2be2 said:These are the same people that think white men and American Christians are being persecuted. They have a complex.Bear8084 said:
Like I said, good for her and a positive story. Some of y'all seem to get mad at the weirdest things.
More access to opportunity is always a good thing and should always be celebrated. There's nothing to be threatened by here, fellas.
If a female could hit 50 yard field goals consistently for Baylor, I would be her biggest fan. Nobody celebrates 30 yard squib kickoffs in college football as ground breaking.
Stop with your strawman arguments.
bear2be2 said:He didn't throw her into kick as a stunt. She was the only kicker on a decimated roster and that was Vandy's only kickoff of the game. She was there by request to handle all of their kicking duties.ilbb990912 said:
The Vandy coach pulled off a genius move.
He barely kept his job last year, they're 0-8 this year and getting rocked by Missouri 41-0..He throws her in to kick off a 30 yard kick, and the next day headlines are about a modern day Joan of Arc in our midst!
Who gives a S- - t about winning anymore?
bear2be2 said:If you think that's a strawman, you haven't read this thread ... or followed history. As is always the case when barriers are broken, there are a bunch of middle-aged men here and elsewhere threatened and offended by the fact that a woman was given an opportunity and is being celebrated for it.Jack Bauer said:More access to opportunity? Any female is free to tryout for college football or the NFL. Some girls kick for their high school team. If they earn the spot, then good for them.bear2be2 said:These are the same people that think white men and American Christians are being persecuted. They have a complex.Bear8084 said:
Like I said, good for her and a positive story. Some of y'all seem to get mad at the weirdest things.
More access to opportunity is always a good thing and should always be celebrated. There's nothing to be threatened by here, fellas.
If a female could hit 50 yard field goals consistently for Baylor, I would be her biggest fan. Nobody celebrates 30 yard squib kickoffs in college football as ground breaking.
Stop with your strawman arguments.
This woman was in no danger whatsoever of a catastrophic injury. In fact, Vanderbilt is being criticized for some bizarre reason for keeping her out of harm's way with a directional squib kick.Carlos Safety said:It is about protecting from catastrophic injuries that will occur as a result of the physical mismatches. And common sense, which I understand is no longer in vogue.bear2be2 said:So it's up to you freedom-loving heroes to tell others what they should or shouldn't be doing with their lives and protect them from themselves? Got it.Carlos Safety said:I think it is the middle aged men who realize that the PC induced congratulations cease once one of these girls get caught in the scrum or have to take a full speed hit. Prudence and sobriety today will avoid a committee inquiry into a girl's injuries tomorrow.bear2be2 said:If you think that's a strawman, you haven't read this thread ... or followed history. As is always the case when barriers are broken, there are a bunch of middle-aged men here and elsewhere threatened and offended by the fact that a woman was given an opportunity and is being celebrated for it.Jack Bauer said:More access to opportunity? Any female is free to tryout for college football or the NFL. Some girls kick for their high school team. If they earn the spot, then good for them.bear2be2 said:These are the same people that think white men and American Christians are being persecuted. They have a complex.Bear8084 said:
Like I said, good for her and a positive story. Some of y'all seem to get mad at the weirdest things.
More access to opportunity is always a good thing and should always be celebrated. There's nothing to be threatened by here, fellas.
If a female could hit 50 yard field goals consistently for Baylor, I would be her biggest fan. Nobody celebrates 30 yard squib kickoffs in college football as ground breaking.
Stop with your strawman arguments.
She wasn't brought in to punt. Their punter was available. You do realize that punters and place-kickers have completely different roles, correct?Carlos Safety said:bear2be2 said:He didn't throw her into kick as a stunt. She was the only kicker on a decimated roster and that was Vandy's only kickoff of the game. She was there by request to handle all of their kicking duties.ilbb990912 said:
The Vandy coach pulled off a genius move.
He barely kept his job last year, they're 0-8 this year and getting rocked by Missouri 41-0..He throws her in to kick off a 30 yard kick, and the next day headlines are about a modern day Joan of Arc in our midst!
Who gives a S- - t about winning anymore?
How many times did she punt?
Like barrier-breaking black athletes, this woman's being judged and criticized for who she is, not what she can do. That she's not as good a kicker as Jackie Robinson was a baseball player is irrelevant to my point.Jack Bauer said:bear2be2 said:If you think that's a strawman, you haven't read this thread ... or followed history. As is always the case when barriers are broken, there are a bunch of middle-aged men here and elsewhere threatened and offended by the fact that a woman was given an opportunity and is being celebrated for it.Jack Bauer said:More access to opportunity? Any female is free to tryout for college football or the NFL. Some girls kick for their high school team. If they earn the spot, then good for them.bear2be2 said:These are the same people that think white men and American Christians are being persecuted. They have a complex.Bear8084 said:
Like I said, good for her and a positive story. Some of y'all seem to get mad at the weirdest things.
More access to opportunity is always a good thing and should always be celebrated. There's nothing to be threatened by here, fellas.
If a female could hit 50 yard field goals consistently for Baylor, I would be her biggest fan. Nobody celebrates 30 yard squib kickoffs in college football as ground breaking.
Stop with your strawman arguments.
If you are trying to tie this into breaking racial barriers, you couldn't be further off. Black Americans were entirely capable of competing in major sports and were denied solely by their skin color. Jackie Robinson was rookie of the year and 5th in MVP voting.
This girl (any female) could have tried out for Vandy football her 1st day on campus. There was no restriction as there were with black athletes. She got the job through Covid-19 attrition. She came in and did what was asked. Good for her. That's it.
We found the liberal!bear2be2 said:Like barrier-breaking black athletes, this woman's being judged and criticized for who she is, not what she can do. That she's not as good a kicker as Jackie Robinson was a baseball player is irrelevant to my point.Jack Bauer said:bear2be2 said:If you think that's a strawman, you haven't read this thread ... or followed history. As is always the case when barriers are broken, there are a bunch of middle-aged men here and elsewhere threatened and offended by the fact that a woman was given an opportunity and is being celebrated for it.Jack Bauer said:More access to opportunity? Any female is free to tryout for college football or the NFL. Some girls kick for their high school team. If they earn the spot, then good for them.bear2be2 said:These are the same people that think white men and American Christians are being persecuted. They have a complex.Bear8084 said:
Like I said, good for her and a positive story. Some of y'all seem to get mad at the weirdest things.
More access to opportunity is always a good thing and should always be celebrated. There's nothing to be threatened by here, fellas.
If a female could hit 50 yard field goals consistently for Baylor, I would be her biggest fan. Nobody celebrates 30 yard squib kickoffs in college football as ground breaking.
Stop with your strawman arguments.
If you are trying to tie this into breaking racial barriers, you couldn't be further off. Black Americans were entirely capable of competing in major sports and were denied solely by their skin color. Jackie Robinson was rookie of the year and 5th in MVP voting.
This girl (any female) could have tried out for Vandy football her 1st day on campus. There was no restriction as there were with black athletes. She got the job through Covid-19 attrition. She came in and did what was asked. Good for her. That's it.
Insecure middle-aged men are threatened by change. Everyone else realizes that it is inevitable and often for the best.
bear2be2 said:She wasn't brought in to punt. Their punter was available. You do realize that punters and place-kickers have completely different roles, correct?Carlos Safety said:bear2be2 said:He didn't throw her into kick as a stunt. She was the only kicker on a decimated roster and that was Vandy's only kickoff of the game. She was there by request to handle all of their kicking duties.ilbb990912 said:
The Vandy coach pulled off a genius move.
He barely kept his job last year, they're 0-8 this year and getting rocked by Missouri 41-0..He throws her in to kick off a 30 yard kick, and the next day headlines are about a modern day Joan of Arc in our midst!
Who gives a S- - t about winning anymore?
How many times did she punt?
TellMeYouLoveMe said:So which effeminate male on the Vandy campus will suit up for the women's basketball team?Bears2Canes said:I think they mean an inspiration to little girls, not middle aged men on a football forum.Jack Bauer said:
"An inspiration" ?
I give her props for answering the call of duty for her school but a 30 yard pooch kick is not groundbreaking or inspirational. It's average at best.
And Vandy is so bad she probably won't even have the chance to score an XP.
I mean, this is about equality is it not?
If you think real hard, you might see the irony in someone who champions freedom and liberty telling others what they should and should not be doing, you know, for their own good.Carlos Safety said:bear2be2 said:She wasn't brought in to punt. Their punter was available. You do realize that punters and place-kickers have completely different roles, correct?Carlos Safety said:bear2be2 said:He didn't throw her into kick as a stunt. She was the only kicker on a decimated roster and that was Vandy's only kickoff of the game. She was there by request to handle all of their kicking duties.ilbb990912 said:
The Vandy coach pulled off a genius move.
He barely kept his job last year, they're 0-8 this year and getting rocked by Missouri 41-0..He throws her in to kick off a 30 yard kick, and the next day headlines are about a modern day Joan of Arc in our midst!
Who gives a S- - t about winning anymore?
How many times did she punt?
If you think real hard, you will understand there is a huge difference in power between the players in UIL 2A and NCAA and that a college punter, any college punter, would have kicked the ball better than she.
Reverend said:
I'd love to see that story on Mason having a girl starting at cornerback. They went two games deep in the playoffs and my son in law is from there. First I've heard of it.
As for the Vanderbilt kicker it was a stunt. I hope UGA lets them score next week so she can try an extra point.
Google Tristin Keller. Girl's one hell of a basketball player, too.Reverend said:
I'd love to see that story on Mason having a girl starting at cornerback. They went two games deep in the playoffs and my son in law is from there. First I've heard of it.
As for the Vanderbilt kicker it was a stunt. I hope UGA lets them score next week so she can try an extra point.
bear2be2 said:If you think real hard, you might see the irony in someone who champions freedom and liberty telling others what they should and should not be doing, you know, for their own good.Carlos Safety said:bear2be2 said:She wasn't brought in to punt. Their punter was available. You do realize that punters and place-kickers have completely different roles, correct?Carlos Safety said:bear2be2 said:He didn't throw her into kick as a stunt. She was the only kicker on a decimated roster and that was Vandy's only kickoff of the game. She was there by request to handle all of their kicking duties.ilbb990912 said:
The Vandy coach pulled off a genius move.
He barely kept his job last year, they're 0-8 this year and getting rocked by Missouri 41-0..He throws her in to kick off a 30 yard kick, and the next day headlines are about a modern day Joan of Arc in our midst!
Who gives a S- - t about winning anymore?
How many times did she punt?
If you think real hard, you will understand there is a huge difference in power between the players in UIL 2A and NCAA and that a college punter, any college punter, would have kicked the ball better than she.
Carlos Safety said:bear2be2 said:If you think real hard, you might see the irony in someone who champions freedom and liberty telling others what they should and should not be doing, you know, for their own good.Carlos Safety said:bear2be2 said:She wasn't brought in to punt. Their punter was available. You do realize that punters and place-kickers have completely different roles, correct?Carlos Safety said:bear2be2 said:He didn't throw her into kick as a stunt. She was the only kicker on a decimated roster and that was Vandy's only kickoff of the game. She was there by request to handle all of their kicking duties.ilbb990912 said:
The Vandy coach pulled off a genius move.
He barely kept his job last year, they're 0-8 this year and getting rocked by Missouri 41-0..He throws her in to kick off a 30 yard kick, and the next day headlines are about a modern day Joan of Arc in our midst!
Who gives a S- - t about winning anymore?
How many times did she punt?
If you think real hard, you will understand there is a huge difference in power between the players in UIL 2A and NCAA and that a college punter, any college punter, would have kicked the ball better than she.
They have every right to put a girl out there. They also have the right reap the consequences when a girl is severely injured playing a combat sport against a bunch a elite male athletes.
She's not a girl. She's a woman. And beyond that, she's an elite college level athlete. She doesn't need some middle-aged man who couldn't make an extra point at his local middle school to tell her what she should or should not be doing.Carlos Safety said:bear2be2 said:If you think real hard, you might see the irony in someone who champions freedom and liberty telling others what they should and should not be doing, you know, for their own good.Carlos Safety said:bear2be2 said:She wasn't brought in to punt. Their punter was available. You do realize that punters and place-kickers have completely different roles, correct?Carlos Safety said:bear2be2 said:He didn't throw her into kick as a stunt. She was the only kicker on a decimated roster and that was Vandy's only kickoff of the game. She was there by request to handle all of their kicking duties.ilbb990912 said:
The Vandy coach pulled off a genius move.
He barely kept his job last year, they're 0-8 this year and getting rocked by Missouri 41-0..He throws her in to kick off a 30 yard kick, and the next day headlines are about a modern day Joan of Arc in our midst!
Who gives a S- - t about winning anymore?
How many times did she punt?
If you think real hard, you will understand there is a huge difference in power between the players in UIL 2A and NCAA and that a college punter, any college punter, would have kicked the ball better than she.
They have every right to put a girl out there. They also have the right reap the consequences when a girl is severely injured playing a combat sport against a bunch a elite male athletes.
bear2be2 said:She's not a girl. She's a woman. And beyond that, she's an elite college level athlete. She doesn't need some middle-aged man who couldn't make an extra point at his local middle school to tell her what she should or should not be doing.Carlos Safety said:bear2be2 said:If you think real hard, you might see the irony in someone who champions freedom and liberty telling others what they should and should not be doing, you know, for their own good.Carlos Safety said:bear2be2 said:She wasn't brought in to punt. Their punter was available. You do realize that punters and place-kickers have completely different roles, correct?Carlos Safety said:bear2be2 said:He didn't throw her into kick as a stunt. She was the only kicker on a decimated roster and that was Vandy's only kickoff of the game. She was there by request to handle all of their kicking duties.ilbb990912 said:
The Vandy coach pulled off a genius move.
He barely kept his job last year, they're 0-8 this year and getting rocked by Missouri 41-0..He throws her in to kick off a 30 yard kick, and the next day headlines are about a modern day Joan of Arc in our midst!
Who gives a S- - t about winning anymore?
How many times did she punt?
If you think real hard, you will understand there is a huge difference in power between the players in UIL 2A and NCAA and that a college punter, any college punter, would have kicked the ball better than she.
They have every right to put a girl out there. They also have the right reap the consequences when a girl is severely injured playing a combat sport against a bunch a elite male athletes.
