I'm putting at least 85% of my anger on the staff. Although novosad's move was a giant middle finger, we wouldn't be in this precarious situation had we not been so hard committed to one player.
On3 Consensus Team Recruiting Rankings halfway through National Signing Day👀https://t.co/FY227kL2qV pic.twitter.com/U1HIwP7hQ0
— On3 Recruits (@On3Recruits) December 21, 2022
What a day for Oregon 🦆
— Yahoo Sports College Football (@YahooSportsCFB) December 21, 2022
- Flipped 4-star QB Austin Novosad from Baylor
- Flipped 5-star DB Peyton Bowen from Notre Dame
- Got a commitment from 5-star DE Matayo Uiagalelei
- Flipped 4-star DB Daylen Austin from LSU
➡️ https://t.co/IUD6lkgqCT pic.twitter.com/WAN21YWPMT
go check out Tom Lemming's rankings from 1990 - 98. Baylor commits are all over the place, loads of QBs, RBs and FBs. only 1 or 2 receivers. (i believe a solid chunk of those listed failed to qualify academically. i'm assuming Roberts and Reedy only cared about talent and just ignored any red flags.)Ghostrider said:no, we weren't.Art_E_Guinn said:pretty sure Baylor was pulling in 4 and 5-star skill players left and right in the late 80s and early 90s. i wasn't around then, but you can go back and see the old recruiting rankings and Baylor had multiple top 10 QBs and RBs under Reedy and Dave Roberts.BaylorGuru said:
If he flips, fans need to wake up and hold aranda and co accountable. No back up plan and a lot of issues behind the scenes. Can't wait for the boomer Baylor fans to say "back in my day we were happy just have a 4 star consider us".
I didn't think it was about NIL but now I do. I think Phil Knight failed in initial efforts to get Oregon into the B10 and got the checkbook out to money whip these late flips. These kind of flips will make Oregon much more relevant in future B10 discussions.boognish_bear said:
That PK money is flipping a lot of kids. BU not alone on this one.What a day for Oregon 🦆
— Yahoo Sports College Football (@YahooSportsCFB) December 21, 2022
- Flipped 4-star QB Austin Novosad from Baylor
- Flipped 5-star DB Peyton Bowen from Notre Dame
- Got a commitment from 5-star DE Matayo Uiagalelei
- Flipped 4-star DB Daylen Austin from LSU
➡️ https://t.co/IUD6lkgqCT pic.twitter.com/WAN21YWPMT
It’s exciting for fans to see where their team is ranked, but it’s certainly devalued given every guy you sign could be gone a year from now. https://t.co/bAWW6c6tTQ
— Stewart Mandel (@slmandel) December 21, 2022
I say this in relation to the quarterback room and recruiting the position.
— The Ten12 Network (@Ten12Network) December 21, 2022
I would be shocked if Aranda allows what happened today to happen again.
Im not talking about having a kid decommit one — that’s going to happen — I mean not having a back-up plan. #Baylor #sicem
If Oregon keeps up this spending much longer they’re gonna be in the NFC West
— RedditCFB (@RedditCFB) December 21, 2022
That is possible. But I think we are way behind in the NIL game just like we once were regarding facilities and staff budgets. In fact I[m pretty sure we are way behind. A former women's hoops player a couple of weeks ago commented that "we arent about a culture of greed here" on the topic of NIL. That to me was a tell that we dont grasp the significance of NIL and are coming up with lame excuses for being way behind. Like it is some sort of Christian duty to not participate in that it or some shxt like that.robby44 said:
i noticed a lot of folks are assuming this is a NIL issue
I think its possible that this kid watched Shapen play a full season,saw him continue to get worse each week and asked himself what's gonna happen to me
Also I wonder if he contacted Bohannon and Drones and asked what was going on
It's possible... but a week or 2 ago he was all in on BU. Why wait until a week before signing day to contact ex players, evaluate shapen, etc. Then there is the 11th hour interest from Oregon. Odds are he got an offer he couldn't refuse from PK who has opened up the checkbook in an attempt to keep Oregon relevant at an national level,robby44 said:
i noticed a lot of folks are assuming this is a NIL issue
I think its possible that this kid watched Shapen play a full season,saw him continue to get worse each week and asked himself what's gonna happen to me
Also I wonder if he contacted Bohannon and Drones and asked what was going on
It's not a playing time issue.robby44 said:
i noticed a lot of folks are assuming this is a NIL issue
I think its possible that this kid watched Shapen play a full season,saw him continue to get worse each week and asked himself what's gonna happen to me
Also I wonder if he contacted Bohannon and Drones and asked what was going on
What about a 6-6 record with an abysmal bowl birth this season?Bigkahunaww said:It's not a playing time issue.robby44 said:
i noticed a lot of folks are assuming this is a NIL issue
I think its possible that this kid watched Shapen play a full season,saw him continue to get worse each week and asked himself what's gonna happen to me
Also I wonder if he contacted Bohannon and Drones and asked what was going on
It's not a proximity to home issue
That leaves either NIL
Or the QB coach. Which I hope Baylor changes come January.
"(Will Stein) wasn't going to be able to convince Austin Novosad to come play for him at UTSA, but him wearing a different logo, that green Oregon jacket, makes it a lot more attractive."@SWiltfong247 breaks down 4-star QB Austin Novosad flipping from Baylor to Oregon 🦆 pic.twitter.com/wT16EEC5zQ
— 247Sports (@247Sports) December 21, 2022
BREAKING: Four-Star RB Jayden Limar has Flipped his Commitment from Notre Dame to Oregon!
— Hayes Fawcett (@Hayesfawcett3) December 21, 2022
The 5’11 190 RB from Lake Stevens, WA had been committed to the Fighting Irish since May.
Oregon is having a great day on the recruiting trail. https://t.co/TMxqAymSwA pic.twitter.com/ZX1S88c8st
Marcus Freeman: “We’re going to focus on the ones who decided to come here."
— Patrick Engel (@PatrickEngel_) December 21, 2022
"You can't worry about the ones you didn't get." pic.twitter.com/VWhy4O8Ctm
The bolded part is the key. How many want to be a backup? I think this portal business with NIL money an X-factor is going to make a lot of teams a one-QB team and you better hope that one-QB is good enough and can stay healthy enough to last the season. The good ones want to play. They don't want to be backups. A lot of them only have one year of eligibility left. They don't want to sit on the bench. So what the team is left with is a drop off after QB1. I would think that will be the norm versus the exception.Casper1990 said:
On 24/7 transfer portal there are over 40 qbs with three stars or more. Surely we can find one that can be the backup next year.
Kudos to Oregon on a phenomenal Signing Day.
— Stewart Mandel (@slmandel) December 22, 2022
A lot of these NIL collectives are amateur hour operations. Oregon’s Division Street is basically a mini-Nike, run by former execs there. pic.twitter.com/MbZfDHcbm2
Technically speaking, fewer "NILs," if you knowwhatimeanandithinkyoudorobby44 said:
If its all about NIL then how is Scott Drew able to sign so many impact highly rated basketballers
Does basketball have more NIL money available than football?
Goodluck to you Austin !! https://t.co/UvzqxZLlD5
— Dawson Pendergrass ⭐️⭐️⭐️ (@Dawson_penni) December 21, 2022
boognish_bear said:
We don't have the facts yet....but if Oregon came in and money whipped Novosad and BU couldn't keep up can we really blame him walking on Bell. Given that he's walking into a much more competitive QB room at Oregon I have to imagine money was involved.
I think there are other issues happening around our QBs that should raise some red flags about Bell...but not sure we can put Novosad walking on him.
MarcelloSwisher said:
Two minutes till midnight…. Novosad is somewhere right now on the phone just trying to make sure one final time that Oregon is his best offer before he picks up that pen to sign
Possibly if it was just one. Five means Nike money.robby44 said:
i noticed a lot of folks are assuming this is a NIL issue
I think its possible that this kid watched Shapen play a full season,saw him continue to get worse each week and asked himself what's gonna happen to me
Also I wonder if he contacted Bohannon and Drones and asked what was going on