Stranger said:
If Little Matty puts the Bears through that drill Saturday then he proves how bad a coach some of us believe he really is.
Let's all get ready for another losing season. It's not about the team, it's about him.
OldSchoolBU said:
there is a term for all this worry over the Oklahoma drill pre-game. Let me think of it. Oh yeah, MANUFACTURED DRAMA. Quit thinking like cowards and start thinking like champions. Do you want a tough football team? Toughness is a skill that needs to be practiced. You don't get tough without getting used to contact.
Compounding said:OldSchoolBU said:
there is a term for all this worry over the Oklahoma drill pre-game. Let me think of it. Oh yeah, MANUFACTURED DRAMA. Quit thinking like cowards and start thinking like champions. Do you want a tough football team? Toughness is a skill that needs to be practiced. You don't get tough without getting used to contact.
Stop. Have you seen a fighter push the hell out of themselves with ridiculously physical drills all the way up to the week of the fight and then get their ass whipped? I have on multiple occasions with high level guys. Lost to a much inferior opponent because of foolish training methods. Was tough as hell but didn't matter. Completely ridiculous to do any of that training leading up to game time. I don't understand how this is even debatable with the knowledge we now have on training and performance. Again, if Rhule wants the drill in build up during spring and early fall then go ahead although its not great to use consistently. To do it on game week or worse game day is stupid. There is no other way about it.
There is a term for those passing it off as nothing, idiots.
Timbear said:
It looks stupid, and doesn't help anything. Probably only coach ever to do that in pre-game. What does that tell you?
Timbear said:
Hey, perverted, I'm talking about pregame, Einstein. If no other team has ever done that before , I'll bet on the wisdom of that.
OldSchoolBU said:
there is a term for all this worry over the Oklahoma drill pre-game. Let me think of it. Oh yeah, MANUFACTURED DRAMA. Quit thinking like cowards and start thinking like champions. Do you want a tough football team? Toughness is a skill that needs to be practiced. You don't get tough without getting used to contact.
JusHappy2BeHere said:
Oklahoma Drill has it's place. Putting your face and hands through another human who is trying to do the same to you is not a natural thing for most folks and this can get them more accustomed to it. It can also get everyone's juices flowing when the energy is down. I did it about 3 times a spring and then again the first day of full pads in Fall Camp.. I might stop practice once a year and throw it in there if I thought we were flat...
So that's about 5 times a year and never in pregame.
my problem with Rhule's use of it is that it seems he came in with the idea that our kids were soft, and that is absolutely false. He took over a very physical and very tough bunch of veteran players.
He was a victim of B1G Bias.
ExactlyJusHappy2BeHere said:
Oklahoma Drill has it's place. Putting your face and hands through another human who is trying to do the same to you is not a natural thing for most folks and this can get them more accustomed to it. It can also get everyone's juices flowing when the energy is down. I did it about 3 times a spring and then again the first day of full pads in Fall Camp.. I might stop practice once a year and throw it in there if I thought we were flat...
So that's about 5 times a year and never in pregame.
my problem with Rhule's use of it is that it seems he came in with the idea that our kids were soft, and that is absolutely false. He took over a very physical and very tough bunch of veteran players.
He was a victim of B1G Bias.
triggered much?PervertedLittleTarts said:JusHappy2BeHere said:
Oklahoma Drill has it's place. Putting your face and hands through another human who is trying to do the same to you is not a natural thing for most folks and this can get them more accustomed to it. It can also get everyone's juices flowing when the energy is down. I did it about 3 times a spring and then again the first day of full pads in Fall Camp.. I might stop practice once a year and throw it in there if I thought we were flat...
So that's about 5 times a year and never in pregame.
my problem with Rhule's use of it is that it seems he came in with the idea that our kids were soft, and that is absolutely false. He took over a very physical and very tough bunch of veteran players.
He was a victim of B1G Bias.
"Veteran" players you say? LOL. So converted TE 265 pound Teck at center, true freshman Miller and Newman also on the OL, Mims with one season as a backup, true freshmen Sneed, Lovett, and Holmes, and Ish Wainwright the basketball player, on defense freshmen Pitre, walk-on McVea, Terrel Bernard, and Harrison Hand, sophomores new CB Blake Lynch, Jameson Houston, Clay Johnston, B. Roy, Michael Johnson, Jordan Williams, Ogor, Chris Miller, and Henry Black... all of these players were on the two-deep to start the season, and you refer to them as "veteran" players? Are you sure you've actually coached football? Pee Wee league doesn't count.
JusHappy2BeHere said:triggered much?PervertedLittleTarts said:JusHappy2BeHere said:
Oklahoma Drill has it's place. Putting your face and hands through another human who is trying to do the same to you is not a natural thing for most folks and this can get them more accustomed to it. It can also get everyone's juices flowing when the energy is down. I did it about 3 times a spring and then again the first day of full pads in Fall Camp.. I might stop practice once a year and throw it in there if I thought we were flat...
So that's about 5 times a year and never in pregame.
my problem with Rhule's use of it is that it seems he came in with the idea that our kids were soft, and that is absolutely false. He took over a very physical and very tough bunch of veteran players.
He was a victim of B1G Bias.
"Veteran" players you say? LOL. So converted TE 265 pound Teck at center, true freshman Miller and Newman also on the OL, Mims with one season as a backup, true freshmen Sneed, Lovett, and Holmes, and Ish Wainwright the basketball player, on defense freshmen Pitre, walk-on McVea, Terrel Bernard, and Harrison Hand, sophomores new CB Blake Lynch, Jameson Houston, Clay Johnston, B. Roy, Michael Johnson, Jordan Williams, Ogor, Chris Miller, and Henry Black... all of these players were on the two-deep to start the season, and you refer to them as "veteran" players? Are you sure you've actually coached football? Pee Wee league doesn't count.
I don't need to prove myself to a child.PervertedLittleTarts said:JusHappy2BeHere said:triggered much?PervertedLittleTarts said:JusHappy2BeHere said:
Oklahoma Drill has it's place. Putting your face and hands through another human who is trying to do the same to you is not a natural thing for most folks and this can get them more accustomed to it. It can also get everyone's juices flowing when the energy is down. I did it about 3 times a spring and then again the first day of full pads in Fall Camp.. I might stop practice once a year and throw it in there if I thought we were flat...
So that's about 5 times a year and never in pregame.
my problem with Rhule's use of it is that it seems he came in with the idea that our kids were soft, and that is absolutely false. He took over a very physical and very tough bunch of veteran players.
He was a victim of B1G Bias.
"Veteran" players you say? LOL. So converted TE 265 pound Teck at center, true freshman Miller and Newman also on the OL, Mims with one season as a backup, true freshmen Sneed, Lovett, and Holmes, and Ish Wainwright the basketball player, on defense freshmen Pitre, walk-on McVea, Terrel Bernard, and Harrison Hand, sophomores new CB Blake Lynch, Jameson Houston, Clay Johnston, B. Roy, Michael Johnson, Jordan Williams, Ogor, Chris Miller, and Henry Black... all of these players were on the two-deep to start the season, and you refer to them as "veteran" players? Are you sure you've actually coached football? Pee Wee league doesn't count.
Never. Is that the best response you can muster for being exposed as a know-nothing fool?
JusHappy2BeHere said:I don't need to prove myself to a child.PervertedLittleTarts said:JusHappy2BeHere said:triggered much?PervertedLittleTarts said:JusHappy2BeHere said:
Oklahoma Drill has it's place. Putting your face and hands through another human who is trying to do the same to you is not a natural thing for most folks and this can get them more accustomed to it. It can also get everyone's juices flowing when the energy is down. I did it about 3 times a spring and then again the first day of full pads in Fall Camp.. I might stop practice once a year and throw it in there if I thought we were flat...
So that's about 5 times a year and never in pregame.
my problem with Rhule's use of it is that it seems he came in with the idea that our kids were soft, and that is absolutely false. He took over a very physical and very tough bunch of veteran players.
He was a victim of B1G Bias.
"Veteran" players you say? LOL. So converted TE 265 pound Teck at center, true freshman Miller and Newman also on the OL, Mims with one season as a backup, true freshmen Sneed, Lovett, and Holmes, and Ish Wainwright the basketball player, on defense freshmen Pitre, walk-on McVea, Terrel Bernard, and Harrison Hand, sophomores new CB Blake Lynch, Jameson Houston, Clay Johnston, B. Roy, Michael Johnson, Jordan Williams, Ogor, Chris Miller, and Henry Black... all of these players were on the two-deep to start the season, and you refer to them as "veteran" players? Are you sure you've actually coached football? Pee Wee league doesn't count.
Never. Is that the best response you can muster for being exposed as a know-nothing fool?
I gave a thoughtful response to this discussion and you have attacked me. Your issues are obvious and they are on you. I'm secure in my credentials and abilities as a football coach. People who know me know this.
I hope you can get a grip on your emotions some day.
They way Rhule handled the 1st year was stupid, led to 1 win and alienated the fan base. Let's hope he's not so stupid in his second year, has learned from some of his foolish mistakes, has a competent offensive scheme and has his players ready to play. These things were missing in large part last year.xiledinok said:
It's a drill that coaches he's worked for used effectively in his opinion.
I do believe Rhule was given the green light to weed out the players. I think that's why he questioned their toughness and commitment. This is why we have upset fans bent out of shape and crying about transfers.
It's ironic you accuse others of knowing nothing. You're one of the most glib posters on this board. Why not take your talents back to the paid board, where your little buddies will appreciate you?PervertedLittleTarts said:JusHappy2BeHere said:triggered much?PervertedLittleTarts said:JusHappy2BeHere said:
Oklahoma Drill has it's place. Putting your face and hands through another human who is trying to do the same to you is not a natural thing for most folks and this can get them more accustomed to it. It can also get everyone's juices flowing when the energy is down. I did it about 3 times a spring and then again the first day of full pads in Fall Camp.. I might stop practice once a year and throw it in there if I thought we were flat...
So that's about 5 times a year and never in pregame.
my problem with Rhule's use of it is that it seems he came in with the idea that our kids were soft, and that is absolutely false. He took over a very physical and very tough bunch of veteran players.
He was a victim of B1G Bias.
"Veteran" players you say? LOL. So converted TE 265 pound Teck at center, true freshman Miller and Newman also on the OL, Mims with one season as a backup, true freshmen Sneed, Lovett, and Holmes, and Ish Wainwright the basketball player, on defense freshmen Pitre, walk-on McVea, Terrel Bernard, and Harrison Hand, sophomores new CB Blake Lynch, Jameson Houston, Clay Johnston, B. Roy, Michael Johnson, Jordan Williams, Ogor, Chris Miller, and Henry Black... all of these players were on the two-deep to start the season, and you refer to them as "veteran" players? Are you sure you've actually coached football? Pee Wee league doesn't count.
Never. Is that the best response you can muster for being exposed as a know-nothing fool?
Bingo.robby44 said:
It's my opinion that if you have Baylor across your chest then you should be D1 ready
Why would a coach have to weed out D1 players?
Coach should be able to make players on the roster better
Those that step up and improve will shine those that don't will sit
He never said all of the players were veterans. Must be your reading comprehension problem again.PervertedLittleTarts said:JusHappy2BeHere said:I don't need to prove myself to a child.PervertedLittleTarts said:JusHappy2BeHere said:triggered much?PervertedLittleTarts said:JusHappy2BeHere said:
Oklahoma Drill has it's place. Putting your face and hands through another human who is trying to do the same to you is not a natural thing for most folks and this can get them more accustomed to it. It can also get everyone's juices flowing when the energy is down. I did it about 3 times a spring and then again the first day of full pads in Fall Camp.. I might stop practice once a year and throw it in there if I thought we were flat...
So that's about 5 times a year and never in pregame.
my problem with Rhule's use of it is that it seems he came in with the idea that our kids were soft, and that is absolutely false. He took over a very physical and very tough bunch of veteran players.
He was a victim of B1G Bias.
"Veteran" players you say? LOL. So converted TE 265 pound Teck at center, true freshman Miller and Newman also on the OL, Mims with one season as a backup, true freshmen Sneed, Lovett, and Holmes, and Ish Wainwright the basketball player, on defense freshmen Pitre, walk-on McVea, Terrel Bernard, and Harrison Hand, sophomores new CB Blake Lynch, Jameson Houston, Clay Johnston, B. Roy, Michael Johnson, Jordan Williams, Ogor, Chris Miller, and Henry Black... all of these players were on the two-deep to start the season, and you refer to them as "veteran" players? Are you sure you've actually coached football? Pee Wee league doesn't count.
Never. Is that the best response you can muster for being exposed as a know-nothing fool?
I gave a thoughtful response to this discussion and you have attacked me. Your issues are obvious and they are on you. I'm secure in my credentials and abilities as a football coach. People who know me know this.
I hope you can get a grip on your emotions some day.
Alright credentialed coach, then explain to us how the players I specifically named could be considered "veterans." We will wait.
Mothra said:It's ironic you accuse others of knowing nothing. You're one of the most glib posters on this board. Why not take your talents back to the paid board, where your little buddies will appreciate you?PervertedLittleTarts said:JusHappy2BeHere said:triggered much?PervertedLittleTarts said:JusHappy2BeHere said:
Oklahoma Drill has it's place. Putting your face and hands through another human who is trying to do the same to you is not a natural thing for most folks and this can get them more accustomed to it. It can also get everyone's juices flowing when the energy is down. I did it about 3 times a spring and then again the first day of full pads in Fall Camp.. I might stop practice once a year and throw it in there if I thought we were flat...
So that's about 5 times a year and never in pregame.
my problem with Rhule's use of it is that it seems he came in with the idea that our kids were soft, and that is absolutely false. He took over a very physical and very tough bunch of veteran players.
He was a victim of B1G Bias.
"Veteran" players you say? LOL. So converted TE 265 pound Teck at center, true freshman Miller and Newman also on the OL, Mims with one season as a backup, true freshmen Sneed, Lovett, and Holmes, and Ish Wainwright the basketball player, on defense freshmen Pitre, walk-on McVea, Terrel Bernard, and Harrison Hand, sophomores new CB Blake Lynch, Jameson Houston, Clay Johnston, B. Roy, Michael Johnson, Jordan Williams, Ogor, Chris Miller, and Henry Black... all of these players were on the two-deep to start the season, and you refer to them as "veteran" players? Are you sure you've actually coached football? Pee Wee league doesn't count.
Never. Is that the best response you can muster for being exposed as a know-nothing fool?
a quick glance at our 2017 roster shows 72 men who were on a Division 1 Roster in 2016. That's about 80% of the players who had at least 1 year of college football practices under their belt. It shows 56 had at least one year with CAB... 32, over a third were part of a Big XII Championship team... the redshirt seniors were around for two of those.PervertedLittleTarts said:JusHappy2BeHere said:I don't need to prove myself to a child.PervertedLittleTarts said:JusHappy2BeHere said:triggered much?PervertedLittleTarts said:JusHappy2BeHere said:
Oklahoma Drill has it's place. Putting your face and hands through another human who is trying to do the same to you is not a natural thing for most folks and this can get them more accustomed to it. It can also get everyone's juices flowing when the energy is down. I did it about 3 times a spring and then again the first day of full pads in Fall Camp.. I might stop practice once a year and throw it in there if I thought we were flat...
So that's about 5 times a year and never in pregame.
my problem with Rhule's use of it is that it seems he came in with the idea that our kids were soft, and that is absolutely false. He took over a very physical and very tough bunch of veteran players.
He was a victim of B1G Bias.
"Veteran" players you say? LOL. So converted TE 265 pound Teck at center, true freshman Miller and Newman also on the OL, Mims with one season as a backup, true freshmen Sneed, Lovett, and Holmes, and Ish Wainwright the basketball player, on defense freshmen Pitre, walk-on McVea, Terrel Bernard, and Harrison Hand, sophomores new CB Blake Lynch, Jameson Houston, Clay Johnston, B. Roy, Michael Johnson, Jordan Williams, Ogor, Chris Miller, and Henry Black... all of these players were on the two-deep to start the season, and you refer to them as "veteran" players? Are you sure you've actually coached football? Pee Wee league doesn't count.
Never. Is that the best response you can muster for being exposed as a know-nothing fool?
I gave a thoughtful response to this discussion and you have attacked me. Your issues are obvious and they are on you. I'm secure in my credentials and abilities as a football coach. People who know me know this.
I hope you can get a grip on your emotions some day.
Alright credentialed coach, then explain to us how the players I specifically named could be considered "veterans." We will wait.
Mothra said:He never said all of the players were veterans. Must be your reading comprehension problem again.PervertedLittleTarts said:JusHappy2BeHere said:I don't need to prove myself to a child.PervertedLittleTarts said:JusHappy2BeHere said:triggered much?PervertedLittleTarts said:JusHappy2BeHere said:
Oklahoma Drill has it's place. Putting your face and hands through another human who is trying to do the same to you is not a natural thing for most folks and this can get them more accustomed to it. It can also get everyone's juices flowing when the energy is down. I did it about 3 times a spring and then again the first day of full pads in Fall Camp.. I might stop practice once a year and throw it in there if I thought we were flat...
So that's about 5 times a year and never in pregame.
my problem with Rhule's use of it is that it seems he came in with the idea that our kids were soft, and that is absolutely false. He took over a very physical and very tough bunch of veteran players.
He was a victim of B1G Bias.
"Veteran" players you say? LOL. So converted TE 265 pound Teck at center, true freshman Miller and Newman also on the OL, Mims with one season as a backup, true freshmen Sneed, Lovett, and Holmes, and Ish Wainwright the basketball player, on defense freshmen Pitre, walk-on McVea, Terrel Bernard, and Harrison Hand, sophomores new CB Blake Lynch, Jameson Houston, Clay Johnston, B. Roy, Michael Johnson, Jordan Williams, Ogor, Chris Miller, and Henry Black... all of these players were on the two-deep to start the season, and you refer to them as "veteran" players? Are you sure you've actually coached football? Pee Wee league doesn't count.
Never. Is that the best response you can muster for being exposed as a know-nothing fool?
I gave a thoughtful response to this discussion and you have attacked me. Your issues are obvious and they are on you. I'm secure in my credentials and abilities as a football coach. People who know me know this.
I hope you can get a grip on your emotions some day.
Alright credentialed coach, then explain to us how the players I specifically named could be considered "veterans." We will wait.
What he DID say was Rhule inherited tough veteran players. I can't believe I am having to explain this, but what that means is the veterans on this team that Rhule inherited were already tough. That's quite a bit different from saying all the players on the team are veterans.
Now the real question for me is whether this is your glibness again, or whether you are being intentionally obtuse. Typically, I wouldn't believe someone could be so brainless, but in your case, I actually think it is the former.
JusHappy2BeHere said:a quick glance at our 2017 roster shows 72 men who were on a Division 1 Roster in 2016. That's about 80% of the players who had at least 1 year of college football practices under their belt. It shows 56 had at least one year with CAB... 32, over a third were part of a Big XII Championship team... the redshirt seniors were around for two of those.PervertedLittleTarts said:JusHappy2BeHere said:I don't need to prove myself to a child.PervertedLittleTarts said:JusHappy2BeHere said:triggered much?PervertedLittleTarts said:JusHappy2BeHere said:
Oklahoma Drill has it's place. Putting your face and hands through another human who is trying to do the same to you is not a natural thing for most folks and this can get them more accustomed to it. It can also get everyone's juices flowing when the energy is down. I did it about 3 times a spring and then again the first day of full pads in Fall Camp.. I might stop practice once a year and throw it in there if I thought we were flat...
So that's about 5 times a year and never in pregame.
my problem with Rhule's use of it is that it seems he came in with the idea that our kids were soft, and that is absolutely false. He took over a very physical and very tough bunch of veteran players.
He was a victim of B1G Bias.
"Veteran" players you say? LOL. So converted TE 265 pound Teck at center, true freshman Miller and Newman also on the OL, Mims with one season as a backup, true freshmen Sneed, Lovett, and Holmes, and Ish Wainwright the basketball player, on defense freshmen Pitre, walk-on McVea, Terrel Bernard, and Harrison Hand, sophomores new CB Blake Lynch, Jameson Houston, Clay Johnston, B. Roy, Michael Johnson, Jordan Williams, Ogor, Chris Miller, and Henry Black... all of these players were on the two-deep to start the season, and you refer to them as "veteran" players? Are you sure you've actually coached football? Pee Wee league doesn't count.
Never. Is that the best response you can muster for being exposed as a know-nothing fool?
I gave a thoughtful response to this discussion and you have attacked me. Your issues are obvious and they are on you. I'm secure in my credentials and abilities as a football coach. People who know me know this.
I hope you can get a grip on your emotions some day.
Alright credentialed coach, then explain to us how the players I specifically named could be considered "veterans." We will wait.
There was plenty of experience and leadership from teams that were tough.
JusHappy2BeHere said:
I really didn't think I said anything that controversial.... but some folks are always looking for a fight.... and must attack anyone that doesn't follow their view of things....
JusHappy2BeHere said:
toughness comes from years of being around guys who practice and play tough. Toughness is a team thing. You don't have the kind of success we had from 2010-2015 without a culture of toughness.
It's not just about the names you have heard of. It comes from the entire squad. There were enough guys who had been through the wars with Kaz and CAB to lead the new ones.
I think he came in thinking that CAB's teams were soft and he needed to toughen them up.
Ultimately it is his choice and he has to do what is right for his team....
Mothra said:Just FYI, Tanner Thrift, one of our best offensive linemen, had his football career ended by the Oklahoma drill. As a result, we had to move a TE to guard, and play a freshman at center. How do you think that turn of events has affected us this season? Would it have been better to have someone with Tanner's size and experience protecting Zach Smith from getting killed, or am I making a mountain out of a molehill?OldSchoolBU said:when you get your own program run it like you want to. I don't have a problem with it. Players take on about 60-90 "Oklahoma drills" in a game and people are worried about one more pre-game? I just don't get it. Serious making a mountain out of a molehill.Noghri said:Dumb post is dumb. This is not a way to get tough. It is a way to wear out your body/impede healing.OldSchoolBU said:
there is a term for all this worry over the Oklahoma drill pre-game. Let me think of it. Oh yeah, MANUFACTURED DRAMA. Quit thinking like cowards and start thinking like champions. Do you want a tough football team? Toughness is a skill that needs to be practiced. You don't get tough without getting used to contact.
How many of the last 15 national champs run this drill?
college or pro
I know you will only attack, but you are wrong here. Very wrong.PervertedLittleTarts said:JusHappy2BeHere said:triggered much?PervertedLittleTarts said:JusHappy2BeHere said:
Oklahoma Drill has it's place. Putting your face and hands through another human who is trying to do the same to you is not a natural thing for most folks and this can get them more accustomed to it. It can also get everyone's juices flowing when the energy is down. I did it about 3 times a spring and then again the first day of full pads in Fall Camp.. I might stop practice once a year and throw it in there if I thought we were flat...
So that's about 5 times a year and never in pregame.
my problem with Rhule's use of it is that it seems he came in with the idea that our kids were soft, and that is absolutely false. He took over a very physical and very tough bunch of veteran players.
He was a victim of B1G Bias.
"Veteran" players you say? LOL. So converted TE 265 pound Teck at center, true freshman Miller and Newman also on the OL, Mims with one season as a backup, true freshmen Sneed, Lovett, and Holmes, and Ish Wainwright the basketball player, on defense freshmen Pitre, walk-on McVea, Terrel Bernard, and Harrison Hand, sophomores new CB Blake Lynch, Jameson Houston, Clay Johnston, B. Roy, Michael Johnson, Jordan Williams, Ogor, Chris Miller, and Henry Black... all of these players were on the two-deep to start the season, and you refer to them as "veteran" players? Are you sure you've actually coached football? Pee Wee league doesn't count.
Never. Is that the best response you can muster for being exposed as a know-nothing fool?
What he said was accurate, and in response, you behaved like a d bag - your standard response. Your problem with it is you are an apologist who takes any criticism of CMR personally.PervertedLittleTarts said:JusHappy2BeHere said:
I really didn't think I said anything that controversial.... but some folks are always looking for a fight.... and must attack anyone that doesn't follow their view of things....
Listen, I'll apologize for the pee wee football remark, but what you said wasn't controversial, it was just simply false. And I'm tired of reading constant falsehoods posted on this board that bizarrely have become widely accepted as fact. So I'm calling you out. If you're going to make a statement, then be able to back it up. In this case, you can't.
Mothra said:What he said was accurate, and in response, you behaved like a d bag - your standard response. Your problem with it is you are an apologist who takes any criticism of CMR personally.PervertedLittleTarts said:JusHappy2BeHere said:
I really didn't think I said anything that controversial.... but some folks are always looking for a fight.... and must attack anyone that doesn't follow their view of things....
Listen, I'll apologize for the pee wee football remark, but what you said wasn't controversial, it was just simply false. And I'm tired of reading constant falsehoods posted on this board that bizarrely have become widely accepted as fact. So I'm calling you out. If you're going to make a statement, then be able to back it up. In this case, you can't.
Let's not pretend that the paid board isn't for the most part an echo chamber for apologists such as yourself. Any criticism of this staff is typically met with accusations that one loves Briles or hates CMR. There is no gray on the paid board. They remind me of the delusional Aggie fans on their fan board. The handful of reasonable posters - only Crash Davis comes immediately to mind - are drowned out by the apologists such as yourself who are constantly making excuses for how the season progressed last year. It's one reason I don't post much over there. Instead I use it to get information on recruiting and practice reports. There's no sense in engaging with dolts such as yourself who only view CMR and the program in black and white terms.PervertedLittleTarts said:Mothra said:He never said all of the players were veterans. Must be your reading comprehension problem again.PervertedLittleTarts said:JusHappy2BeHere said:I don't need to prove myself to a child.PervertedLittleTarts said:JusHappy2BeHere said:triggered much?PervertedLittleTarts said:JusHappy2BeHere said:
Oklahoma Drill has it's place. Putting your face and hands through another human who is trying to do the same to you is not a natural thing for most folks and this can get them more accustomed to it. It can also get everyone's juices flowing when the energy is down. I did it about 3 times a spring and then again the first day of full pads in Fall Camp.. I might stop practice once a year and throw it in there if I thought we were flat...
So that's about 5 times a year and never in pregame.
my problem with Rhule's use of it is that it seems he came in with the idea that our kids were soft, and that is absolutely false. He took over a very physical and very tough bunch of veteran players.
He was a victim of B1G Bias.
"Veteran" players you say? LOL. So converted TE 265 pound Teck at center, true freshman Miller and Newman also on the OL, Mims with one season as a backup, true freshmen Sneed, Lovett, and Holmes, and Ish Wainwright the basketball player, on defense freshmen Pitre, walk-on McVea, Terrel Bernard, and Harrison Hand, sophomores new CB Blake Lynch, Jameson Houston, Clay Johnston, B. Roy, Michael Johnson, Jordan Williams, Ogor, Chris Miller, and Henry Black... all of these players were on the two-deep to start the season, and you refer to them as "veteran" players? Are you sure you've actually coached football? Pee Wee league doesn't count.
Never. Is that the best response you can muster for being exposed as a know-nothing fool?
I gave a thoughtful response to this discussion and you have attacked me. Your issues are obvious and they are on you. I'm secure in my credentials and abilities as a football coach. People who know me know this.
I hope you can get a grip on your emotions some day.
Alright credentialed coach, then explain to us how the players I specifically named could be considered "veterans." We will wait.
What he DID say was Rhule inherited tough veteran players. I can't believe I am having to explain this, but what that means is the veterans on this team that Rhule inherited were already tough. That's quite a bit different from saying all the players on the team are veterans.
Now the real question for me is whether this is your glibness again, or whether you are being intentionally obtuse. Typically, I wouldn't believe someone could be so brainless, but in your case, I actually think it is the former.
Now this is especially rich coming from you. You've practically been laughed off the premium board because you continually make the most nonsensical posts ever seen there regardless of one's position, so you thought you'd come over here and play the tough guy where you'll get some support and project your brainlessness onto me? How pathetic.
And boy, is this post Exhibit A of your inability to think with reason. He referred to the team having a quote "very tough bunch of veteran players," and so I responded with a specific listing of decidedly non-veteran players listed on our two-deep to start the season. Funny enough, I went back and looked after that post and I left off another four sophomores with limited playing time also listed on that same two-deep, which clearly demonstrates to anyone with a brain that the majority of the players seeing the field weren't even remotely veterans. So, I'll ask you, even though I know it will be a waste of time as you're typically unable to conjure a coherent response: where are all these oh so tough veterans that he was referring to? Please name at least 25-30 of them, because that's the amount it would take for a Power 5 team to compete at a high level. You won't be able to, but it will be fun to watch your mental gymnastics in response.
Go.
