2025 Coaching Carousel

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IowaBear
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Kiffin isn't going to leave Ole Miss imo. LSU opening shouldn't affect whether Bu pulls the plug on Dave. Baylor isn't fudging in the same pond as LSU is for coaches
boognish_bear
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boykin_spaniel
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Kiffin is perfect for Ole Miss. literally a 50 year old frat boy but he likes the state of Florida and if LSU offers him NIL Ole Miss can't he may jump ship
Aliceinbubbleland
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Ole Miss has an easy SEC schedule and he lost the game that mattered. Tennessee, USC and Ole Miss. no championships. I'm hearing Kelly has been fired.
Thank you Miami Hurricanes. 10-3. :)
KajunKarlsdad
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I'm hoping the guy who made this was joking.
Bearsalwayswin
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I don't think we can fire dave unless we have a coach lined up like seriously…everyone's firing
boykin_spaniel
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Yes but he's the shiny thing right now for a many. He has Ole Miss respectable when they're historically not
Aliceinbubbleland
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boykin_spaniel said:

Yes but he's the shiny thing right now for a many. He has Ole Miss respectable when they're historically not

Correct. I think he is an excellent coach. He just seems to have difficulty winning the big one that gets him the championship. Still I wished he were ours.
Thank you Miami Hurricanes. 10-3. :)
boognish_bear
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Jack Bauer
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Jack Bauer
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RIP to Brian Kelly busting out these moves..

Jacques Strap
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Jack Bauer said:




LOL classic!
cowboycwr
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Bearsalwayswin said:

I don't think we can fire dave unless we have a coach lined up like seriously…everyone's firing


Why? Why is this line always used with Baylor sports when it comes to discussing replacing a coach? No other school in division one does this. No other school holds talks with a potential school and has a contract basically agreed to before firing their current coach.

But at Baylor, or at least on this board, that is the question always asked along with "who could we get?" When the right questions should be who can we talk to, what can we offer and how much money are we going to lose by sticking with the current coach.
Bearsalwayswin
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why fire dave to go get into another bad situation 4 years down the road
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cowboycwr said:

Bearsalwayswin said:

I don't think we can fire dave unless we have a coach lined up like seriously…everyone's firing


Why? Why is this line always used with Baylor sports when it comes to discussing replacing a coach? No other school in division one does this. No other school holds talks with a potential school and has a contract basically agreed to before firing their current coach.

But at Baylor, or at least on this board, that is the question always asked along with "who could we get?" When the right questions should be who can we talk to, what can we offer and how much money are we going to lose by sticking with the current coach.

Because Baylor does not exist in abstract - it exists in the context of the environment around it. To that end, (a) Baylor could easily end up with its 4th, 5th, 6th, or worse head coach choice if it chooses to make a change -and- such coach may struggle to pull in its top choices as coordinators and (b) Baylor, at least in terms of whether to fire, is certainly aware that post- implementation of NIL Big 12 champions had tons of losses in the years around their championship year. This means that it could make sense for Baylor to see what other jobs open independently from jobs already open - potentially Texas, Oklahoma, South Carolina, FSU, and the like - before pulling the trigger as the market is already crazy, but further job opening could make it difficult to realistically compete for desirable coaches this cycle.

If Baylor was LSU, Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, FSU, Penn State, etc., it wouldn't have to worry too much about the above as it would have the infrastructure, history, desirability, support, conference affiliation, media deal and reputation that would allow it to just poach another sitting successful P4 head coach if it really wanted to, however, Baylor is not one of those programs and it almost certainly never will be.

Aliceinbubbleland
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If Baylor was LSU, Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, FSU, Penn State, etc., it wouldn't have to worry too much about the above as it would have the infrastructure, history, desirability, support, conference affiliation, media deal and reputation that would allow it to just poach another sitting successful P4 head coach if it really wanted to, however, Baylor is not one of those programs and it almost certainly never will be.


We were once, not too long ago. But then Prestonwood took over running the show.
Thank you Miami Hurricanes. 10-3. :)
cowboycwr
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Bearsalwayswin said:

why fire dave to go get into another bad situation 4 years down the road


Please tell me where you got this crystal ball to show the next coach would fail? Then go provide it to Dave so he can game plan better.

Nothing in life is 100% guaranteed. Well except death and taxes….
cowboycwr
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Aberzombie1892 said:

cowboycwr said:

Bearsalwayswin said:

I don't think we can fire dave unless we have a coach lined up like seriously…everyone's firing


Why? Why is this line always used with Baylor sports when it comes to discussing replacing a coach? No other school in division one does this. No other school holds talks with a potential school and has a contract basically agreed to before firing their current coach.

But at Baylor, or at least on this board, that is the question always asked along with "who could we get?" When the right questions should be who can we talk to, what can we offer and how much money are we going to lose by sticking with the current coach.

Because Baylor does not exist in abstract - it exists in the context of the environment around it. To that end, (a) Baylor could easily end up with its 4th, 5th, 6th, or worse head coach choice if it chooses to make a change -and- such coach may struggle to pull in its top choices as coordinators and (b) Baylor, at least in terms of whether to fire, is certainly aware that post- implementation of NIL Big 12 champions had tons of losses in the years around their championship year. This means that it could make sense for Baylor to see what other jobs open independently from jobs already open - potentially Texas, Oklahoma, South Carolina, FSU, and the like - before pulling the trigger as the market is already crazy, but further job opening could make it difficult to realistically compete for desirable coaches this cycle.

If Baylor was LSU, Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, FSU, Penn State, etc., it wouldn't have to worry too much about the above as it would have the infrastructure, history, desirability, support, conference affiliation, media deal and reputation that would allow it to just poach another sitting successful P4 head coach if it really wanted to, however, Baylor is not one of those programs and it almost certainly never will be.




None of this answers my question. This is all focused on is the market good for a coach shopping now or is the market good for coaches who are shopping right now. Which yes that is a consideration but also this year might not be an outlier. It might be the new norm.
Bearsalwayswin
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there's no point to have a bunch of turnover to go get a coach the fans, the athletic director, and frankly no one wants to
cowboycwr
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Bearsalwayswin said:

there's no point to have a bunch of turnover to go get a coach the fans, the athletic director, and frankly no one wants to


Again where is this crystal ball that has told you we would get a dud this year?
Bearsalwayswin
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Many programs above us are firing their coaches. i'm not saying we're going to get a dud, but we need to already be going in a direction with a guy we want. If we fire dave and have no one already half ready to sign the pickens could get slim real quick.
muddybrazos
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Bearsalwayswin said:

why fire dave to go get into another bad situation 4 years down the road

Bc Dave is done and has been done for at least the past 3 years. We had a slight ray of hope last year when we won a few games but that was an anomaly. Bad results and changing coordinators every year is not the answer. At least with a new hire we have the chance at winning some games and building a culture not just repeating the same old crap that has failed.
Bearsalwayswin
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i just would rather suffer one more year and get a home run when the market has calmed down then be 4 years down the road with the same thing.
muddybrazos
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Bearsalwayswin said:

i just would rather suffer one more year and get a home run when the market has calmed down then be 4 years down the road with the same thing.

So you just wanna hope that there will be some magical perfect hires next year? I got news for you, there will be more coaches fired next year. There have been many names on this thread that we could get that would be just fine and we dont have to waste another year of our lives knowing we will have a bad team.
Aliceinbubbleland
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Jack Bauer said:

RIP to Brian Kelly busting out these moves..



LOL. Pretty good for an old guy
Thank you Miami Hurricanes. 10-3. :)
Karab
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Bearsalwayswin said:

i just would rather suffer one more year and get a home run when the market has calmed down then be 4 years down the road with the same thing.


The problem is that with the expanded CFP, now everybody has CFP expectations. So more firings will be the norm.

I hate to be defeatist, but we aren't going to get a home run hire no matter what.

The question is going to be whether the boosters can stomach Aranda's buyout and trust that someone new can at least outperform Aranda
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Bearsalwayswin said:

i just would rather suffer one more year and get a home run when the market has calmed down then be 4 years down the road with the same thing.

The "home runs" this year were the guys that overlooked last year. just my own opinion, but guys like Eric Morris and Jimmy Rogers aren't going to be strongly considered by any of the big boys this year, but that's probably not going to be true after 2026. Point being, Baylor has to do their homework and act decisively, because we are not going to be the guy that can wait until the week before prom to ask the hot girl
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Bearsalwayswin said:

there's no point to have a bunch of turnover to go get a coach the fans, the athletic director, and frankly no one wants to


That's not how a coaching search at this level works. Aranda has a buyout. Some group of rich people have to pay that and then will likely get a seat at the table after the search firm puts out feelers.
Bearsalwayswin
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i agree with what y'all are saying. just don't want to hire a brent brennan esque
boognish_bear
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The reality is there really are not many "home run" hires anyway.

Tom Herman was the golden boy that LSU, UT, and Baylor were all fighting for. Of course he didn't work out.

Aggy paid a Kings ransom to get Jimbo...didn't work out.

Brian Kelly...didn't work out. Lincoln Riley...didn't work out...probably.

There's always some risk in hiring and starting over.... but after six years it is clear what we currently have and I don't think anyone is satisfied with that.

Let's roll the dice. Yes... it's true it can actually get worse...but I would rather take the chance on it getting better.
cowboycwr
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Bearsalwayswin said:

Many programs above us are firing their coaches. i'm not saying we're going to get a dud, but we need to already be going in a direction with a guy we want. If we fire dave and have no one already half ready to sign the pickens could get slim real quick.


We are not competing for ANY of the names being thrown around for the top openings this year. None.

Those are not even options.

Those openings have no bearing on our possible hire.

The ones that do are the ones like UCLA, okie state, and other lower P4 schools. If we can't compete with them for a coach then we will NEVER get rid of Dave because every year there will be a few lower P4 schools that are looking for coaches. There will probably never be another year with only a handful or even just 10 total openings.
cowboycwr
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Bearsalwayswin said:

i just would rather suffer one more year and get a home run when the market has calmed down then be 4 years down the road with the same thing.


And what if the market doesn't calm down next year?

What if next year UT, Clemson, Florida State, and other programs all get rid of their HC? It would be the same situation then as now. So we wait one more year until it "calms down" again?

boognish_bear
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Aberzombie1892
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cowboycwr said:

Bearsalwayswin said:

i just would rather suffer one more year and get a home run when the market has calmed down then be 4 years down the road with the same thing.


And what if the market doesn't calm down next year?

What if next year UT, Clemson, Florida State, and other programs all get rid of their HC? It would be the same situation then as now. So we wait one more year until it "calms down" again?




The problem is that it doesn't make sense to fire Dave until closer to the transfer portal opening unless the bottom falls out, with the reasons for the delay being that (a) if a ton of other jobs open - Oklahoma, FSU, etc. - it may not make sense to fire him due to competition and (b) there will not be many new head coaches announced until close to the transfer portal opening due to recent rule changes.
cowboycwr
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Bearsalwayswin said:

i agree with what y'all are saying. just don't want to hire a brent brennan esque


That is part of the risk you take though. No one that Grant would be good. No one thought much of Briles. Even Rhule was just a coach to watch when hired here but not a hot name.

Same for lots of other guys. LSU thought Kelly was a home run. Kansas thought they had something with Miles. Or their current coach. And on and on.

There is no guarantee that just because a guy won somewhere else he will win at another school, even if that school is a step up, has bigger pockets, better conference, facilities, etc.
 
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