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Good Lord, Thee really gets on his knees for TCU. You can easily buy some purple and head over there. We won't miss you.

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Not really. I just admit the obvious. Patterson is a great coach and gets results. He understands that there are 3 aspects of winning college football games - O, D & ST.

• 28th winningest program today
• 4th best private school program behind ND, USC & Miami
• One of only 4 FBS teams to have played in all 6 College Football Playoff Bowls winning all but the Fiesta & Orange
• 10, count them, 10 11 win seasons under Patterson
• 4th most 11 win seasons in all of college football since 2001
• Currently 2nd longest tenured D1 coach in football
• 160-57
• 10-6 in bowl games

Cry about Patterson. Call him names. Hope he gets sued and fired. He is a great college football coach. His rebuild of the TCU program was even harder than what we had to do here at Baylor.

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yea patterson had it "harder than what we had to do here at Baylor"....franchione had already started the rebuild , he was 25-10, prior to your hero taking over,,,,,,cab had a cakewalk whith morriss at 18-40 and steele 8-36.......when did you go on the sweathogs payroll....

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Good Lord, Thee really gets on his knees for TCU. You can easily buy some purple and head over there. We won't miss you.

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Not really. I just admit the obvious. Patterson is a great coach and gets results. He understands that there are 3 aspects of winning college football games - O, D & ST.

• 28th winningest program today
• 4th best private school program behind ND, USC & Miami
• One of only 4 FBS teams to have played in all 6 College Football Playoff Bowls winning all but the Fiesta & Orange
• 10, count them, 10 11 win seasons under Patterson
• 4th most 11 win seasons in all of college football since 2001
• Currently 2nd longest tenured D1 coach in football
• 160-57
• 10-6 in bowl games

Cry about Patterson. Call him names. Hope he gets sued and fired. He is a great college football coach. His rebuild of the TCU program was even harder than what we had to do here at Baylor.

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yea patterson had it "harder than what we had to do here at Baylor"....franchione had already started the rebuild , he was 25-10, prior to your hero taking over,,,,,,cab had a cakewalk whith morriss at 18-40 and steele 8-36.......when did you go on the sweathogs payroll....

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Getting to the Rose Bowl and winning it as the Moutain West champion is more impressive than anything Briles ever did, it's just a fact.

I don't even like Patterson, he is human garbage and similarly corrupt to Briles, which is why they hated each other because they got a glimpse of themselves from across the field, but Patterson did get more results than Briles, that's not really up for debate.

OldBear69 you have qualified for a ***** hat. What size do you wear?

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First off, the complaints about Patterson being a giant bag of !@#$ are entirely valid. I'm happy he's getting taken to task. He sent a thug to intimidate a professor to keep a lunatic accused rapist eligible. He and his staff ignored drug testing when he was there. He's literally responsible for the exact dang things Briles was accused of. This thread isn't even about his coaching record. Doesn't make a hill of beans if he won on the field. He's a scumbag.

And nobody has ever had a tougher rebuild than Briles had at Baylor. It was viewed as the worst job in college football for 20 years until the practice facility and stadium got built. That's not even in question. But this isn't about football. It's about Patterson being a lying duplicitous scumbag. Which he is.

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Yep!

Thee is trying to derail this thread and get us talking about something else.

This is about TCU corruption.

There needs to be an investigation ASAP and if TCU fans don't want to be hypocrites, they will call for an investigation.

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And nobody has ever had a tougher rebuild than Briles had at Baylor. It was viewed as the worst job in college football for 20 years until the practice facility and stadium got built. That's not even in question. But this isn't about football. It's about Patterson being a lying duplicitous scumbag. Which he is.

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Baylor was not the worst job in college football for 20 years! Not even in question? Over those seasons there were a number of schools that went 0-11 more than once and still are considered patsies.

If Patterson had taken the Baylor job (he turned us down) and turned us around and was still here, you guys would be busting your knee caps defending him. THAT is what is not even in question!!

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And nobody has ever had a tougher rebuild than Briles had at Baylor. It was viewed as the worst job in college football for 20 years until the practice facility and stadium got built. That's not even in question. But this isn't about football. It's about Patterson being a lying duplicitous scumbag. Which he is.

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Baylor was not the worst job in college football for 20 years! Not even in question? Over those seasons there were a number of schools that went 0-11 more than once and still are considered patsies.

If Patterson had taken the Baylor job (he turned us down) and turned us around and was still here, you guys would be busting your knee caps defending him. THAT is what is not even in question!!

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Puff Puff Pass....
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If I could attach a meme it would be Cocaine is a Helluva Drug.

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Like maybe UCLA or North Carolina or Boise State?

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That UNC team had just taken Clemson down to the wire in the ACC Championship game. And we beat the hell out of them playing the game of football without a quarterback. Ran for over 600 yards. Most rushing yards ever in a bowl game. Period. You can whine about anything.

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UNC was horrible and we were very good. The sad thing is that we could have done that same thing to UT and TCU to win 2 more games but our "braintrust" said no, let's throw hail mary's in a monsoon and then let one of the worst UT teams in modern history come into McLane and give us a pigskin enema in the Mall Fight.

What could have been my friend. What could have been!!!!!

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Of course it is.

4 of the first 5 years your savior had a losing record in Big 12 play and he had RG3 working for him.

Rhule's 1 win in conference play was 1 game worse than Arthur's 2 Big 12 wins in 2008.

Briles matched Rhules 1 conference win in 2009 and had Wake Forest, NWestern State and Kent State to get those glorious 4 wins.

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I hope he gets three. Then we could possibly improve to mediocre teaff era football. Maybe get 3 wins by year 7.

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And nobody has ever had a tougher rebuild than Briles had at Baylor. It was viewed as the worst job in college football for 20 years until the practice facility and stadium got built. That's not even in question. But this isn't about football. It's about Patterson being a lying duplicitous scumbag. Which he is.

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Baylor was not the worst job in college football for 20 years! Not even in question? Over those seasons there were a number of schools that went 0-11 more than once and still are considered patsies.

If Patterson had taken the Baylor job (he turned us down) and turned us around and was still here, you guys would be busting your knee caps defending him. THAT is what is not even in question!!

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Instead, Baylor has rotted into what TCU was in the 1970's. No one is discrediting what Patterson has achieved.

But keep an eye on this, Patterson will be the next to go down because they are next in line.

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That UNC team had just taken Clemson down to the wire in the ACC Championship game. And we beat the hell out of them playing the game of football without a quarterback. Ran for over 600 yards. Most rushing yards ever in a bowl game. Period. You can whine about anything.

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UNC was horrible and we were very good. The sad thing is that we could have done that same thing to UT and TCU to win 2 more games but our "braintrust" said no, let's throw hail mary's in a monsoon and then let one of the worst UT teams in modern history come into McLane and give us a pigskin enema in the Mall Fight.

What could have been my friend. What could have been!!!!!

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Of course it is.

4 of the first 5 years your savior had a losing record in Big 12 play and he had RG3 working for him.

Rhule's 1 win in conference play was 1 game worse than Arthur's 2 Big 12 wins in 2008.

Briles matched Rhules 1 conference win in 2009 and had Wake Forest, NWestern State and Kent State to get those glorious 4 wins.

Year 3 was Arthur's breakl out year! Will Rhule get 3?

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I don't care if it takes 5 years as long as we win with class and dignity. We won 10 of 11 games before without raping and beating women up. We can do it again.

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And nobody has ever had a tougher rebuild than Briles had at Baylor. It was viewed as the worst job in college football for 20 years until the practice facility and stadium got built. That's not even in question. But this isn't about football. It's about Patterson being a lying duplicitous scumbag. Which he is.

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Baylor was not the worst job in college football for 20 years! Not even in question? Over those seasons there were a number of schools that went 0-11 more than once and still are considered patsies.

If Patterson had taken the Baylor job (he turned us down) and turned us around and was still here, you guys would be busting your knee caps defending him. THAT is what is not even in question!!

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Instead, Baylor has rotted into what TCU was in the 1970's. No one is discrediting what Patterson has achieved.

But keep an eye on this, Patterson will be the next to go down because they are next in line.

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The rotting occurred because we invited cockroaches into our program and held our nose, became a drug addict on win at any and all costs and generally strayed from our founding roots.

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And nobody has ever had a tougher rebuild than Briles had at Baylor. It was viewed as the worst job in college football for 20 years until the practice facility and stadium got built. That's not even in question. But this isn't about football. It's about Patterson being a lying duplicitous scumbag. Which he is.

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Baylor was not the worst job in college football for 20 years! Not even in question? Over those seasons there were a number of schools that went 0-11 more than once and still are considered patsies.

If Patterson had taken the Baylor job (he turned us down) and turned us around and was still here, you guys would be busting your knee caps defending him. THAT is what is not even in question!!

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Nah man. Yer just flat out wrong. Baylor was the worst job in football over a long period of time. I guess you could say tied for last over that span. Worst facilities, small school, probably the most difficult conference at the time and then having to sell kids on the Baptist religion with stupid BS like a no dancing policy in of all places Waco, TX. Yeah definitely worst job in football for a long time.

And the only person defending somebody who let's kids start up drug rings, yells at doctors for pulling kids off the field with concussions and advocates for accused insane rapists to stay eligible is you pal. And again that's what this thread is about. Gary Patterson being a gluttonous amoral sack of human excrement. Which he is.

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Dude! Take off the blinders, unglue your lips and get off your crusty knees.

We were the worst in the Big 12 facility race back when it was first formed when teams like Nebraska, A&M, Colorado & Missouri were in. Kids have looked past facilities for years now. They are much more interested in TV exposure, coaching to a potential NFL career, and prestige. The Big 12 used to be a much stronger conference. With each successive year the Big 12 gets weaker and weaker.

Small school? That dog won't hunt. We are twice as big as the last time Baylor went through conference play undefeated.

Dancing? Seriously? That was an issue maybe back when Jimmy Carter was President. Disco dancing by Penland Boys was rampant!!

Baptist religion? That dog won't hunt. Baylor is less Baptist today than it ever has been. In our quest for $$$ we have thrown the doors open for even atheists.

Finally, your description of Briles in your last paragraph is sad.

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And nobody has ever had a tougher rebuild than Briles had at Baylor. It was viewed as the worst job in college football for 20 years until the practice facility and stadium got built. That's not even in question. But this isn't about football. It's about Patterson being a lying duplicitous scumbag. Which he is.

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Baylor was not the worst job in college football for 20 years! Not even in question? Over those seasons there were a number of schools that went 0-11 more than once and still are considered patsies.

If Patterson had taken the Baylor job (he turned us down) and turned us around and was still here, you guys would be busting your knee caps defending him. THAT is what is not even in question!!

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Nah man. Yer just flat out wrong. Baylor was the worst job in football over a long period of time. I guess you could say tied for last over that span. Worst facilities, small school, probably the most difficult conference at the time and then having to sell kids on the Baptist religion with stupid BS like a no dancing policy in of all places Waco, TX. Yeah definitely worst job in football for a long time.

And the only person defending somebody who let's kids start up drug rings, yells at doctors for pulling kids off the field with concussions and advocates for accused insane rapists to stay eligible is you pal. And again that's what this thread is about. Gary Patterson being a gluttonous amoral sack of human excrement. Which he is.

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Dude! Take off the blinders, unglue your lips and get off your crusty knees.

We were the worst in the Big 12 facility race back when it was first formed when teams like Nebraska, A&M, Colorado & Missouri were in. Kids have looked past facilities for years now. They are much more interested in TV exposure, coaching to a potential NFL career, and prestige. The Big 12 used to be a much stronger conference. With each successive year the Big 12 gets weaker and weaker.

Small school? That dog won't hunt. We are twice as big as the last time Baylor went through conference play undefeated.

Dancing? Seriously? That was an issue maybe back when Jimmy Carter was President. Disco dancing by Penland Boys was rampant!!

Baptist religion? That dog won't hunt. Baylor is less Baptist today than it ever has been. In our quest for $$$ we have thrown the doors open for even atheists.

Finally, your description of Briles in your last paragraph is sad.

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Keep spinning thee......nothing to watch on tv since bob barker died?

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And nobody has ever had a tougher rebuild than Briles had at Baylor. It was viewed as the worst job in college football for 20 years until the practice facility and stadium got built. That's not even in question. But this isn't about football. It's about Patterson being a lying duplicitous scumbag. Which he is.

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Baylor was not the worst job in college football for 20 years! Not even in question? Over those seasons there were a number of schools that went 0-11 more than once and still are considered patsies.

If Patterson had taken the Baylor job (he turned us down) and turned us around and was still here, you guys would be busting your knee caps defending him. THAT is what is not even in question!!

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Nah man. Yer just flat out wrong. Baylor was the worst job in football over a long period of time. I guess you could say tied for last over that span. Worst facilities, small school, probably the most difficult conference at the time and then having to sell kids on the Baptist religion with stupid BS like a no dancing policy in of all places Waco, TX. Yeah definitely worst job in football for a long time.

And the only person defending somebody who let's kids start up drug rings, yells at doctors for pulling kids off the field with concussions and advocates for accused insane rapists to stay eligible is you pal. And again that's what this thread is about. Gary Patterson being a gluttonous amoral sack of human excrement. Which he is.

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Dude! Take off the blinders, unglue your lips and get off your crusty knees.

We were the worst in the Big 12 facility race back when it was first formed when teams like Nebraska, A&M, Colorado & Missouri were in. Kids have looked past facilities for years now. They are much more interested in TV exposure, coaching to a potential NFL career, and prestige. The Big 12 used to be a much stronger conference. With each successive year the Big 12 gets weaker and weaker.

Small school? That dog won't hunt. We are twice as big as the last time Baylor went through conference play undefeated.

Dancing? Seriously? That was an issue maybe back when Jimmy Carter was President. Disco dancing by Penland Boys was rampant!!

Baptist religion? That dog won't hunt. Baylor is less Baptist today than it ever has been. In our quest for $$$ we have thrown the doors open for even atheists.

Finally, your description of Briles in your last paragraph is sad.

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Baylor was not the worst job in college football for 20 years! Not even in question? Over those seasons there were a number of schools that went 0-11 more than once and still are considered patsies.

If Patterson had taken the Baylor job (he turned us down) and turned us around and was still here, you guys would be busting your knee caps defending him. THAT is what is not even in question!!

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Nah man. Yer just flat out wrong. Baylor was the worst job in football over a long period of time. I guess you could say tied for last over that span. Worst facilities, small school, probably the most difficult conference at the time and then having to sell kids on the Baptist religion with stupid BS like a no dancing policy in of all places Waco, TX. Yeah definitely worst job in football for a long time.

And the only person defending somebody who let's kids start up drug rings, yells at doctors for pulling kids off the field with concussions and advocates for accused insane rapists to stay eligible is you pal. And again that's what this thread is about. Gary Patterson being a gluttonous amoral sack of human excrement. Which he is.

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Dude! Take off the blinders, unglue your lips and get off your crusty knees.

We were the worst in the Big 12 facility race back when it was first formed when teams like Nebraska, A&M, Colorado & Missouri were in. Kids have looked past facilities for years now. They are much more interested in TV exposure, coaching to a potential NFL career, and prestige. The Big 12 used to be a much stronger conference. With each successive year the Big 12 gets weaker and weaker.

Small school? That dog won't hunt. We are twice as big as the last time Baylor went through conference play undefeated.

Dancing? Seriously? That was an issue maybe back when Jimmy Carter was President. Disco dancing by Penland Boys was rampant!!

Baptist religion? That dog won't hunt. Baylor is less Baptist today than it ever has been. In our quest for $$$ we have thrown the doors open for even atheists.

Finally, your description of Briles in your last paragraph is sad.

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Keep spinning thee......nothing to watch on tv since bob barker died?

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I would like to know exactly who has publicly filed a criminal or civil action with McClennan County DA's office regarding an illegal act and when is it going to trial.

Thee, I understand you have a serious case of Peni$ envy that Briles' teams won more in his style than you guys did in yours.

Before you give another reach around to Patterson, who is going to court, whose own players are against him, please give us a specific example of Briles and Co doing the same thing (just a reasonable facsimile will do)

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Patterson and Briles are both pretty awful people.

Patterson did some of the nasty things that caused this mutiny of former players, and Briles colluded with bad apples to keep them eligible and playing.

If you're colluding with bad apples to cover their sins they're not likely to mutiny against you since they have a vested interest in what you've done on their behalf for your own gain.

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I would like to know exactly who has publicly filed a criminal or civil action with McClennan County DA's office regarding an illegal act and when is it going to trial.

Thee, I understand you have a serious case of Peni$ envy that Briles' teams won more in his style than you guys did in yours.

Before you give another reach around to Patterson, who is going to court, whose own players are against him, please give us a specific example of Briles and Co doing the same thing (just a reasonable facsimile will do)

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Patterson and Briles are both pretty awful people.

Patterson did some of the nasty things that caused this mutiny of former players, and Briles colluded with bad apples to keep them eligible and playing.

If you're colluding with bad apples to cover their sins they're not likely to mutiny against you since they have a vested interest in what you've done on their behalf for your own gain.

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Baylor was not the worst job in college football for 20 years! Not even in question? Over those seasons there were a number of schools that went 0-11 more than once and still are considered patsies.

If Patterson had taken the Baylor job (he turned us down) and turned us around and was still here, you guys would be busting your knee caps defending him. THAT is what is not even in question!!

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Nah man. Yer just flat out wrong. Baylor was the worst job in football over a long period of time. I guess you could say tied for last over that span. Worst facilities, small school, probably the most difficult conference at the time and then having to sell kids on the Baptist religion with stupid BS like a no dancing policy in of all places Waco, TX. Yeah definitely worst job in football for a long time.

And the only person defending somebody who let's kids start up drug rings, yells at doctors for pulling kids off the field with concussions and advocates for accused insane rapists to stay eligible is you pal. And again that's what this thread is about. Gary Patterson being a gluttonous amoral sack of human excrement. Which he is.

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Dude! Take off the blinders, unglue your lips and get off your crusty knees.

We were the worst in the Big 12 facility race back when it was first formed when teams like Nebraska, A&M, Colorado & Missouri were in. Kids have looked past facilities for years now. They are much more interested in TV exposure, coaching to a potential NFL career, and prestige. The Big 12 used to be a much stronger conference. With each successive year the Big 12 gets weaker and weaker.

Small school? That dog won't hunt. We are twice as big as the last time Baylor went through conference play undefeated.

Dancing? Seriously? That was an issue maybe back when Jimmy Carter was President. Disco dancing by Penland Boys was rampant!!

Baptist religion? That dog won't hunt. Baylor is less Baptist today than it ever has been. In our quest for $$$ we have thrown the doors open for even atheists.

Finally, your description of Briles in your last paragraph is sad.

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He's alive and well.

What are the damages against Patterson and TCU?

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I can't speak to their specific claims, but I know few universities that let their head coaches be the first one to greet a player after a serious surgery.

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Weak.

Patterson would have kicked you in the nads for laying in that bed and pushed your hospital bed into the parking lot.






Seriously, he would have asked your family to leave while he spoke to you and told you if you were on life support he'd pull the plug on your respirator.

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Leach would have locked him in a "shed" or placed him at mid-field and practiced around him.

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We had Baylor players experience career ending injuries during PRACTICE DRILLS and we did not stop and cry about it or complain. The coach just moved the drills up 15 yards to give the trainers some temporary space to get the injured player stabilized and off the field.

Obviously Patterson is old school which makes you millenials pucker up. Hard to argue the results as it has produced 12 Top 25 finishes since 2000. He is 160-57 (.737).

Relax boys. It is a great rivalry and is now 53-53-7.

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I was hoping you would say that.

During the time we were languishing and playing doormat in the fledgling Big 12 poor TCU whipped our asses in 2007 & 2010 to the combined scores of 72-10. They beat the likes of Oklahoma, Tulane, UH, BYU, Stanford a few times, Virginia, Boise State and Clemson just to name a few.

In the 2010 season when they went 13-0 they beat #4 Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl. That Badger team beat #1 Ohio State 31-18 that year.

30% of the Baylor wins over those years were against the likes of Sam Houston, Stephen F, Wofford, etc.

It does not matter which conference you put Patterson in, he will win. They hit the Big 12 in 2012 and kicked our @$$#$ in Waco 49-21.

I'm not cheering for Patterson. I just think he is an excellent football coach and has proven it time and time again.

Donning Arthur's gang banger robe.........................TRUTH DON'T LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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Many on here like to belittle what TCU did after leaving the SWC and before getting into the Big 12 but they kicked our @$$#$ during this time, they beat some good teams, they did NOT choke in the Rose bowl and they prepared for an opportunity that would come eventually to join the Big 12.

The Big 12 had patsies. Heck, Baylor was that patsy from 1996 to 2010 but the Rice was Kansas, the old TCU was Iowa State and Texas Tech was Texas Tech.

I personally think Baylor would have been better off taking the TCU route for those 14 years or so since we had poor leadership and were woefully unprepared for what we were getting into. Winning against WAC, CUSA and MW team like BYU, Air Force, SDSU, Wyoming, Utah, New Mexico and UNLV can be more positive in the long run than getting bashed like we did for 15 years.

The Toads finished in the Top 25 12 times over the past 17 years. Beyond that, even while mired in a "red headed step child" conference they finished #9 twice, #7 twice, #6 once, #3 once and #2 in 2010. Not bad for being in a cupcake conference. I suppose one reason was that TCU did not run from competition during those years. Hell, they beat us 27-0 in 2007 and 45-10 in 2010 when they won the Rose Bowl.

Downplay it all you like. Had BU done this all of you guys would have gladly traded Arthur's paper tiger seasons with Patterson's meat & potato seasons.

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2006
TCU - 17
Baylor - 7

2007
TCU - 27
Baylor - 0

2010
TCU - 45
Baylor - 10

2012 - Welcome to the Big 12!
TCU - 49
Baylor - 21


2011 Rose Bowl
TCU - 21
Wisconsin - 19

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oldbear69 said:

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Thee University said:

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oldbear69 said:

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Thee University said:

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RioRata said:

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TellMeYouLoveMe said:

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smp13 said:

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TellMeYouLoveMe said:

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I can't speak to their specific claims, but I know few universities that let their head coaches be the first one to greet a player after a serious surgery.

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Mrs. Teaff was there for me when I awoke from my knee surgery, 3 days in a row she came to visit me...

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Weak.

Patterson would have kicked you in the nads for laying in that bed and pushed your hospital bed into the parking lot.






Seriously, he would have asked your family to leave while he spoke to you and told you if you were on life support he'd pull the plug on your respirator.

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Leach would have locked him in a "shed" or placed him at mid-field and practiced around him.

cjk5h

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We had Baylor players experience career ending injuries during PRACTICE DRILLS and we did not stop and cry about it or complain. The coach just moved the drills up 15 yards to give the trainers some temporary space to get the injured player stabilized and off the field.

Obviously Patterson is old school which makes you millenials pucker up. Hard to argue the results as it has produced 12 Top 25 finishes since 2000. He is 160-57 (.737).

Relax boys. It is a great rivalry and is now 53-53-7.

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Thee...still cheering for fat pat.....forgot to mention 109 of those 160 wins were in the mwc and cusa.......rah-rah-rah....

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I was hoping you would say that.

During the time we were languishing and playing doormat in the fledgling Big 12 poor TCU whipped our asses in 2007 & 2010 to the combined scores of 72-10. They beat the likes of Oklahoma, Tulane, UH, BYU, Stanford a few times, Virginia, Boise State and Clemson just to name a few.

In the 2010 season when they went 13-0 they beat #4 Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl. That Badger team beat #1 Ohio State 31-18 that year.

30% of the Baylor wins over those years were against the likes of Sam Houston, Stephen F, Wofford, etc.

It does not matter which conference you put Patterson in, he will win. They hit the Big 12 in 2012 and kicked our @$$#$ in Waco 49-21.

I'm not cheering for Patterson. I just think he is an excellent football coach and has proven it time and time again.

Donning Arthur's gang banger robe.........................TRUTH DON'T LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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truth dont lie...but thee can sure shade it a little,,,,,its one thing to be in a mid level conf with cupcakes and schedule one good team a year,,,,, not defending our program at all during that time,,,,we were the worst of the worst but its one thing to cherry pick 1 good game a year and its another thing to have to strap it up every sat against the likes of ou, texas am, nebraska, k state , osu, missouri, and colorado during their good years....oh yea , like the way you throw tulane and houston.. in there as quality wins,,,,check their records from 2003 - 2010....we basically had no program after grant left, outmanned and out coached, a bad combination,,, but please tap the brakes on the second coming of your heroine ,,paddy boy,,,,,its beneath even you,,,

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Many on here like to belittle what TCU did after leaving the SWC and before getting into the Big 12 but they kicked our @$$#$ during this time, they beat some good teams, they did NOT choke in the Rose bowl and they prepared for an opportunity that would come eventually to join the Big 12.

The Big 12 had patsies. Heck, Baylor was that patsy from 1996 to 2010 but the Rice was Kansas, the old TCU was Iowa State and Texas Tech was Texas Tech.

I personally think Baylor would have been better off taking the TCU route for those 14 years or so since we had poor leadership and were woefully unprepared for what we were getting into. Winning against WAC, CUSA and MW team like BYU, Air Force, SDSU, Wyoming, Utah, New Mexico and UNLV can be more positive in the long run than getting bashed like we did for 15 years.

The Toads finished in the Top 25 12 times over the past 17 years. Beyond that, even while mired in a "red headed step child" conference they finished #9 twice, #7 twice, #6 once, #3 once and #2 in 2010. Not bad for being in a cupcake conference. I suppose one reason was that TCU did not run from competition during those years. Hell, they beat us 27-0 in 2007 and 45-10 in 2010 when they won the Rose Bowl.

Downplay it all you like. Had BU done this all of you guys would have gladly traded Arthur's paper tiger seasons with Patterson's meat & potato seasons.

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thee you are the Spinmeister....

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2006
TCU - 17
Baylor - 7

2007
TCU - 27
Baylor - 0

2010
TCU - 45
Baylor - 10

2012 - Welcome to the Big 12!
TCU - 49
Baylor - 21


2011 Rose Bowl
TCU - 21
Wisconsin - 19

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The level of self loathing that Thee has been experiencing for the past 7 years is sad. Oh well, lets just hope he remains in the hill country dreaming of Huma and Weiner

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LiBeartarian said:

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Thee University said:

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Golden Helmet said:

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Sounds like Football to me....this isn't any different than what I and my teammates experienced while playing at BU for Teaff....you'll never play at 100% is an exactly true statement.

The Maponga deal makes no sense....recruiting success is fueled quite a bit by your schools #'s in the NFL

PTSD for a car accident?....I openly chuckled at this one....suck it up buttercup.

Millennial soft serve ice cream for sale here....

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The pussification of college football is under way.

What is wrong with you guys? It has to be juice box kids, social media, hurt feelings, entitlement, etc. Maybe it's the soft parents who will pull their kids out of one school and shop around until they find a school where they believe their kid will be top dog?

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Thee, you are a sick man. You must have loved Pat Culpepper before Teaff canned him.

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I never met him but heard stories from older players/trainers/managers.

I know HarleySpoon loves him.

I never met or knew him.

The name Pat Culpepper calls to mind a lot of recollections, memorable mostly because of, well, less than "positive experiences". At least, that was from the players' standpoint. The remembrance of Meat on the Hoof, the autobiography of a former horn football player that painted Royal and his staff as abusive plantation owners--just like the comments here on Patterson. It shook the football world pretty good, for a while, enough that Lou Holtz bought copies for his staff and made them read it--not to create any edge against the horns but to remind them of what can develop in a big-time football program. Not sure if Lou ever commented on the impact of the required reading material on his staff but it certainly didn't impact college football much, if at all.

Anyway, a couple of things come to mind reading all this in light of the past 50 years:

It is surprising to find out that people are shocked, shocked, to find out that our favorite Saturday game is mean and nasty, and hurts big-time the entire time, and leaves permanent reminders of those days.

It is also surprising to hear people being shocked to find out that coaches are demanding, often unreasonably at times perhaps, and unforgiving. maybe that has to do with the fact that this is now big business for the colleges and universities and has been since the 60's and TV discovered the $$ involved.

It is not surprising to read the comments on Pat Culpepper, either. I did get to know the man later and found him to be the opposite of what he was on the field, so I assume this was a product of his experiences. A gentleman off the field, he was a vicious competitor on it, almost losing touch with the reality of the moment when the game began. Or even practice, and I recall one individual at Baylor who was bent on his destruction before he transferred out. Scary.

Long winded comment to say I believe the kids who are making these claims and it will be interesting to see how Frog manages this problem. Patterson is Patterson...no secrets here. My guess is that TCU will keep this in-house and protect the university, unlike our experience. Listenbee et all may make this stick. Some of it should in order to protect athletes.

Patterson is an old school hard football coach, much like a coach of 40 or 50 years ago. He uses brutality to eliminate players who are not willing to put it all on the line for his team. He recruits players he believes are willing and up to that sacrifice.

I am no fan of his personality, but football is a brutal sport. He is doing what coaches have been doing over 100 years to figure out who are the toughest of the tough.

He is a darn good coach, but his methods may have had their time pass by.

My brother who has been coaching for 35 years now told me that when my son plays football don't try to teach him how we were taught, unless you want him to get thrown off the team, he said it ain't like it used to be, trying to hurt someone is out, especially in instructions how to hit. They teach an across the shoulder wrap up technique for tackling. No more leading with the head, or after initial contact leading with a forearm.


I think Patterson's biggest weakness is that in game he gets so wrapped up in winning that it becomes the only thing that matters and the health and or safety of his players kinda take a back seat. I've seen him put players back in that appeared to not be ready to get back in a game.

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I would like to know exactly who has publicly filed a criminal or civil action with McClennan County DA's office regarding an illegal act and when is it going to trial.

Thee, I understand you have a serious case of Peni$ envy that Briles' teams won more in his style than you guys did in yours.

Before you give another reach around to Patterson, who is going to court, whose own players are against him, please give us a specific example of Briles and Co doing the same thing (just a reasonable facsimile will do)

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I yelled my @$$ off for those Arthur teams. I was shocked though and very vocal for YEARS concerning our glaring lack of discipline & class, our pourous and unattended defense, our horrible special teams and our pansy @$$ed scheduling schemes. I started calling this back in '09 or at the latest '10 and this was on the gang-banging coach's fault. Not the players.

I quit measuring sticks around '85-'86 when two back to back great teams mirrored our 2 year successes of a paltry 18-6. All I brag about today is the FACT that we were the only modern day Baylor team that took care of business and swept the piss out of our conference foes to win the conference going away and NOT HAVING TO RELY ON A TEAM TO LOSE in order to be conference champs. Oh, and our defense was one of the best BU has EVER fielded.

Patterson has already eclipsed Brile's successes and did so without allowing his grossly inflated ego to let his alligator mouth overload his mockingbird @$$. In other words, Patterson knew how to play the Game to keep himself employed while Briles had to break down bawling begging for his job AFTER he realized he was not going to get the UT job he coveted so much.

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