But the Europeans don't.

"53% of French oppose going to war if a fellow NATO member is attacked. 60% of Germans said likewise.
And currently Ukraine isn't even a member."

The idea that America should be more zealous for European security than Europeans is pure-grade DC establishment insanity.

I pray for the people of Ukraine and for cooler heads to prevail.

Liberals just dropped a new term for international weapons selling.

"Lethal aid"

The same US government that just sent 80 tons of ammo to a foreign military that has been infiltrated by neo-nazis doesn't trust you with a "high capacity" magazine.

— Spike Cohen (@RealSpikeCohen) January 22, 2022

The Afgans have some military hardware. Maybe they can support the Allies vs the Russians

What do the Germans and French know about fighting a war in Russia?

ABC BEAR said:

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What do the Germans and French know about fighting a war in Russia?

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well, the Germans know how to not win a war in Russia.. France knows how to say we surrender in most languages

Putin has all the cards .

Biden handlers need to wise up and accept the obvious .

Ukraine needs to stay out of NATO.



Taiwan is next .

Read recently (can't find the article) about Putin's negotiating style. This is how he was taught coming up in the Russian leadership.

You go to the meeting. You take your armed thugs with you. The other party will come to the meeting and bring their armed thugs, too.

If the two parties can't negotiate a deal acceptable to both parties, blood will spill. No one wants there to be blood on their own side.

If the other party doesn't come armed, you decide all the details of the deal.

If true, Putin is looking for weakness. He knows if the US shows a strong hand and the willingness to use it, that an agreement must be reached. If the US doesn't show a strong hand, he's gonna do what he wants.

It'll be interesting to see if Putin thinks Biden is serious. If not, Ukraine may be Russia's soon.

It would seem the people who really want war with Ukraine are the people who are actually already engaged in a proxy war with them and are further escalating the situation by lining the border with thousands more of their troops....

Canada2017 said:

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Baltic States are next .

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Probably. Putin's dream is to ultimately re-assemble the old Soviet Union.

Johnny Bear said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Baltic States are next .

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Probably. Putin's dream is to ultimately re-assemble the old Soviet Union.

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Eastern European Soviet's …yes .

But not the Muslins in Central Asia .

They are not worth the incessant trouble .

So if we end up in a war with a nuclear armed Russia, how long before the leftists blame Trump? I mean, they did waste a lot of hot air screaming that orange man was going to get us into WWIII.... got to be his fault somehow right?

dems and libs are evil

Redbrickbear said:

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But the Europeans don't.

"53% of French oppose going to war if a fellow NATO member is attacked. 60% of Germans said likewise.
And currently Ukraine isn't even a member."

The idea that America should be more zealous for European security than Europeans is pure-grade DC establishment insanity.

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But congressional Republicans are howling for Biden to be tougher on Russia about Ukraine!

Even Pompeo, who worked for that well-know Putin fighter Donald Trump!

Canon said:

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Simply state the following:

If Russia doesn't invade a peaceful neighbor, then no Russians will die. Peace will be maintained. If Russia invaded a peaceful neighbor, they will be sending their troops to their deaths. Choose peace. Choose not to violently invade your peaceful neighbor.

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You misread the Russians. They want to be a world power like the USSR again. Putin knows this kind of escapade feeds into that desire and makes him popular.

They want empire, not peace.

And why don't you contact your Republican reps on this because they want confrontation with Russia.

Isn't it odd that they were silent when Trump debased himself before Putin, but are all over Biden for not being aggressive enough?

C. Jordan said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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But the Europeans don't.

"53% of French oppose going to war if a fellow NATO member is attacked. 60% of Germans said likewise.
And currently Ukraine isn't even a member."

The idea that America should be more zealous for European security than Europeans is pure-grade DC establishment insanity.

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But congressional Republicans are howling for Biden to be tougher on Russia about Ukraine!

Even Pompeo, who worked for that well-know Putin fighter Donald Trump!

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Being tougher on Russia doesn't mean going to war with them. Being tough on Russia would help not being forced to go to war with them in the first place.

War is the result if you're not tough on them from the get go. Hopefully, you already knew that. If not, then you're dumber than I think you are.

C. Jordan said:

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Canon said:

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Simply state the following:

If Russia doesn't invade a peaceful neighbor, then no Russians will die. Peace will be maintained. If Russia invaded a peaceful neighbor, they will be sending their troops to their deaths. Choose peace. Choose not to violently invade your peaceful neighbor.

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You misread the Russians. They want to be a world power like the USSR again. Putin knows this kind of escapade feeds into that desire and makes him popular.

They want empire, not peace.

And why don't you contact your Republican reps on this because they want confrontation with Russia.

Isn't it odd that they were silent when Trump debased himself before Putin, but are all over Biden for not being aggressive enough?

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Trump was in control of Putin. Putin feared Trump. Putin giggles at the prospect of facing Biden.

C. Jordan said:

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Canon said:

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Simply state the following:

If Russia doesn't invade a peaceful neighbor, then no Russians will die. Peace will be maintained. If Russia invaded a peaceful neighbor, they will be sending their troops to their deaths. Choose peace. Choose not to violently invade your peaceful neighbor.

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You misread the Russians. They want to be a world power like the USSR again. Putin knows this kind of escapade feeds into that desire and makes him popular.

They want empire, not peace.

And why don't you contact your Republican reps on this because they want confrontation with Russia.

Isn't it odd that they were silent when Trump debased himself before Putin, but are all over Biden for not being aggressive enough?

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I find it interesting that Putin didn't invade Ukraine while Trump was in office. Of course now that we have a pansy in the White House, proved by the fubar'd mess in Afghanistan that your boy was in charge of, it's no surprise that countries like Russia and China are emboldened.

Gawd, are you that ****ing stupid to completely not see how weak our current POTUS is?

Doc Holliday said:

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The same US government that just sent 80 tons of ammo to a foreign military that has been infiltrated by neo-nazis doesn't trust you with a "high capacity" magazine.

— Spike Cohen (@RealSpikeCohen) January 22, 2022

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That's some RT propaganda right there. Similar to the false leftist claim that 'white supremacy' is a real issue in the US.

bularry said:

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midgett said:

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Read recently (can't find the article) about Putin's negotiating style. This is how he was taught coming up in the Russian leadership.

You go to the meeting. You take your armed thugs with you. The other party will come to the meeting and bring their armed thugs, too.

If the two parties can't negotiate a deal acceptable to both parties, blood will spill. No one wants there to be blood on their own side.

If the other party doesn't come armed, you decide all the details of the deal.

If true, Putin is looking for weakness. He knows if the US shows a strong hand and the willingness to use it, that an agreement must be reached. If the US doesn't show a strong hand, he's gonna do what he wants.

It'll be interesting to see if Putin thinks Biden is serious. If not, Ukraine may be Russia's soon.

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Does Russia want all of Ukraine? or just that Eastern strip? I'm not sure

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How much of an invasion and violent annexation of foreign territory is acceptable?