BusyTarpDuster2017 said:
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Jesus is the new Adam. Mary is the new EVE. (Adam and Eve were born without original sin.) As the first woman came from man, Jesus came from Mary. God, in his wonderfully designed plan, has reversed what happened at the fall! Mary would HAVE to be sinless or she would be less than Eve. That's not possible. In typology, the new is always superior to the old.
Mary absolutely HAD to have been conceived in sin. If she was sinless, then she would NOT have been in the line of sinful seed coming from Adam and Eve, and she would NOT have carried that sinful line of seed to be able to produce Jesus who God promised would ultimately come from Eve's sinful line of seed to "crush the head of the serpent". If Mary was sinless, then there couldn't have been a reversal of the Fall through her at all. Your typology fails.
Explain where in the bible that the God promises that it will come from a
sinful line. That's not in my bible.
In typology the new is ALWAYS superior to the old. Both Adam and Eve were sinless (until the fall), just like Jesus and Mary were both sinless.
St. Augustine said that "the Old Testament is the New concealed, but the New Testament is the Old revealed"
Irenaeus of Lyon (180 AD, who was a disciple of Polycarp who was taught by John) shows that he believes that Mary is the new Eve when he says that Eve "by disobeying became the cause of death for herself and the whole human race, so also Mary . . . was obedient and became the cause of salvation for herself and the whole human race" (
Against Heresies 3.22.4).
Eve is the mother of ALL the living.
Mary is the mother of ALL those living in Christ.
The "Eva" (Eve) is reversed by the "Ave" that the angel says to Mary.
The Old Eve fails in the temptation of the fallen angel.
The New Eve (Mary) acquiesced to the invitation of the holy angel.
The Old Eve says "yes" to herself - she did things her way by eating of the tree of knowledge and evil.
The New Eve (Mary), in her fiat, says "yes" to God.
Mary is the New Ark of the Covenant.
Athanasius of Alexandria (c. 296373) "O noble Virgin, truly you are greater than any other greatness. For who is your equal in greatness, O dwelling place of God the Word? To whom among all creatures shall I compare you, O Virgin? You are greater than them all O [Ark of the] Covenant, clothed with purity instead of gold!
You are the ark in which is found the golden vessel containing the true manna, that is, the flesh in which divinity resides" (Homily of the Papyrus of Turin).
What did the original Ark of the Covenant hold? Aaron's staff (high priest), the Manna from the Desert (bread from God), and the Ten Commandments (the Word of God)
What did Mary hold in her womb? Jesus - the High Priest, the Bread from Heaven, and the Word of God.
Where does David find the Ark? In the Hill Country of Judea. Where does Mary (the New Ark) go? To the Hill Country of Judea to visit Elisabeth.
What does David do before the Ark? He leaps and dances. What does John the Baptist do in the womb of Elisabeth? He leaps and dances in her womb.
As I stated earlier, in Typology, the new is ALWAYS superior to the old. If Eve was originally sinless, Mary was also sinless AND remained sinless throughout her life. She is superior to the new eve.
St Luke is screaming this in his Gospel. The early Christians, would have understood this immediately. Sadly, many Protestants does understand and see these connections today.
Finally, the original Ark of the Covenant was made from acacia wood (incorruptible wood) and covered in the most purist of metals of the day - Gold. In typology, the new is ALWAYS superior to the old. Mary MOST definitely been more incorruptible and pure than the original Ark.
It is you that doesn't understand typology correctly.
I truly wish that I could understand it for you.
