Oh, please. You still lose the argument by referring to Hitler even if you don't use the name "Hitler."TexasScientist said:
In 1923, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, was imprisoned with a sentence of five years. In prison he wrote his autobiography. After his early release in 1924, backed by conservative leaders, we know the rest of the story. In 2020, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, …. to be determined.
Trump charged by Justice Department for efforts to overturn 2020 election
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Seems to me you failed History more than once if you imagine that is in anyway a valid comparison.TexasScientist said:
In 1923, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, was imprisoned with a sentence of five years. In prison he wrote his autobiography. After his early release in 1924, backed by conservative leaders, we know the rest of the story. In 2020, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, …. to be determined.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Did anyone else notice that the indictment seems a bit ... light ... in specifying how Trump's opinion is now criminal?
It appears this case comes down to convincing a jury that Trump deliberately lied, when there is abundant evidence that whether he was correct or not, Trump believed the election had been stolen.
Once you start criminalizing opinion, you have jumped off the cliff.
It appears this case comes down to convincing a jury that Trump deliberately lied, when there is abundant evidence that whether he was correct or not, Trump believed the election had been stolen.
Once you start criminalizing opinion, you have jumped off the cliff.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Our corrupt-to-the-core federal government is charging someone for holding a political rally in the public square. And to keep our President's problems from leading the 6 o'clock news.Oldbear83 said:
Did anyone else notice that the indictment seems a bit ... light ... in specifying how Trump's opinion is now criminal?
It appears this case comes down to convincing a jury that Trump deliberately lied, when there is abundant evidence that whether he was correct or not, Trump believed the election had been stolen.
Once you start criminalizing opinion, you have jumped off the cliff.
Oldbear83 said:Seems to me you failed History more than once if you imagine that is in anyway a valid comparison.TexasScientist said:
In 1923, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, was imprisoned with a sentence of five years. In prison he wrote his autobiography. After his early release in 1924, backed by conservative leaders, we know the rest of the story. In 2020, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, …. to be determined.
To a certain segment of the American population its always post WWI Germany.
When the USA has lost a world war that led to 1.8 million military deaths, 2.3 million wounded, and 400,000+ civilian deaths...plus an economy in ruins, and a completely new and incompetent political system....then we can talk about the "threat of a potential dictator like in Germany"
Oh and lets not forget the hyperinflation...[Hyperinflation is largely a twentieth-century phenomenon. The most widely studied hyperinflation occurred in Germany after World War I. The ratio of the German price index in November 1923 to the price index in August 1922 -just fifteen months earlier- was 1.02 x 10 to the 10th. This huge number amounts to a monthly inflation rate of 322 percent. On average, prices quadrupled each month during the sixteen months of hyperinflation.]
Nazis blamed all their woes on a privileged race, claimed race allowed some to cross sovereign borders at will, practiced eugenics(abortion), enacted strict gun control, had a violent wing of their party that attacked political opponents at their rallies and practiced censoring their political opponents through fake trials and outright imprisonment.TexasScientist said:
In 1923, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, was imprisoned with a sentence of five years. In prison he wrote his autobiography. After his early release in 1924, backed by conservative leaders, we know the rest of the story. In 2020, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, …. to be determined.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?
Well, those comments were from Trump's team of lawyers. But, I am sure she is stellar and the whole thing is "fake news" its a well oiled machine. He really gets some good advice, what indictment are we on 3 or 4.Oldbear83 said:Given what is known about the man bringing these charges, that is laughably ironic.FLBear5630 said:She doesn't have the best professional reputation according to several articles. Sounds like typical Trump, will listen to the hottie that doesn't know what she is doing. Maybe that is how he ended up indicted...RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Not sure if anyone has seen Trump's current defense attorney, Alina Habba, but my God she is hot!! I hope Trump can stay strong and doesn't try to "grab her by the ***sy"!
So if you flood the news with enough accusations, that makes them true because Trump ?FLBear5630 said:Well, those comments were from Trump's team of lawyers. But, I am sure she is stellar and the whole thing is "fake news" its a well oiled machine. He really gets some good advice, what indictment are we on 3 or 4.Oldbear83 said:Given what is known about the man bringing these charges, that is laughably ironic.FLBear5630 said:She doesn't have the best professional reputation according to several articles. Sounds like typical Trump, will listen to the hottie that doesn't know what she is doing. Maybe that is how he ended up indicted...RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Not sure if anyone has seen Trump's current defense attorney, Alina Habba, but my God she is hot!! I hope Trump can stay strong and doesn't try to "grab her by the ***sy"!
Look, we should all be able to agree the Donald Trump is arrogant, can't hold his tongue and sometimes is his worst enemy, but it's obvious to everyone but the malicious haters that these charges are politically driven and smell worse than produce and dairy left in a dumpster for a month.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
I don't need to be a hater, since the 2020 election, listening to his hand picked dream team of advisors, he has been indicted going on 4 times. He does more than enough on his own!Oldbear83 said:So if you flood the news with enough accusations, that makes them true because Trump ?FLBear5630 said:Well, those comments were from Trump's team of lawyers. But, I am sure she is stellar and the whole thing is "fake news" its a well oiled machine. He really gets some good advice, what indictment are we on 3 or 4.Oldbear83 said:Given what is known about the man bringing these charges, that is laughably ironic.FLBear5630 said:She doesn't have the best professional reputation according to several articles. Sounds like typical Trump, will listen to the hottie that doesn't know what she is doing. Maybe that is how he ended up indicted...RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Not sure if anyone has seen Trump's current defense attorney, Alina Habba, but my God she is hot!! I hope Trump can stay strong and doesn't try to "grab her by the ***sy"!
Look, we should all be able to agree the Donald Trump is arrogant, can't hold his tongue and sometimes is his worst enemy, but it's obvious to everyone but the malicious haters that these charges are politically driven and smell worse than produce and dairy left in a dumpster for a month.
As long as Trump is NO WHERE near an elected office I could care less about him.
So as long as he's accused, in your eyes he's guilty.FLBear5630 said:I don't need to be a hater, since the 2020 election, listening to his hand picked dream team of advisors, he has been indicted going on 4 times. He does more than enough on his own!Oldbear83 said:So if you flood the news with enough accusations, that makes them true because Trump ?FLBear5630 said:Well, those comments were from Trump's team of lawyers. But, I am sure she is stellar and the whole thing is "fake news" its a well oiled machine. He really gets some good advice, what indictment are we on 3 or 4.Oldbear83 said:Given what is known about the man bringing these charges, that is laughably ironic.FLBear5630 said:She doesn't have the best professional reputation according to several articles. Sounds like typical Trump, will listen to the hottie that doesn't know what she is doing. Maybe that is how he ended up indicted...RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Not sure if anyone has seen Trump's current defense attorney, Alina Habba, but my God she is hot!! I hope Trump can stay strong and doesn't try to "grab her by the ***sy"!
Look, we should all be able to agree the Donald Trump is arrogant, can't hold his tongue and sometimes is his worst enemy, but it's obvious to everyone but the malicious haters that these charges are politically driven and smell worse than produce and dairy left in a dumpster for a month.
As long as Trump is NO WHERE near an elected office I could care less about him.
Better check in with BIden, he may nominate you for the next SCOTUS opening.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
He wouldn't like my definition of "women". So, sorry. Can't help you there.Oldbear83 said:So as long as he's accused, in your eyes he's guilty.FLBear5630 said:I don't need to be a hater, since the 2020 election, listening to his hand picked dream team of advisors, he has been indicted going on 4 times. He does more than enough on his own!Oldbear83 said:So if you flood the news with enough accusations, that makes them true because Trump ?FLBear5630 said:Well, those comments were from Trump's team of lawyers. But, I am sure she is stellar and the whole thing is "fake news" its a well oiled machine. He really gets some good advice, what indictment are we on 3 or 4.Oldbear83 said:Given what is known about the man bringing these charges, that is laughably ironic.FLBear5630 said:She doesn't have the best professional reputation according to several articles. Sounds like typical Trump, will listen to the hottie that doesn't know what she is doing. Maybe that is how he ended up indicted...RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Not sure if anyone has seen Trump's current defense attorney, Alina Habba, but my God she is hot!! I hope Trump can stay strong and doesn't try to "grab her by the ***sy"!
Look, we should all be able to agree the Donald Trump is arrogant, can't hold his tongue and sometimes is his worst enemy, but it's obvious to everyone but the malicious haters that these charges are politically driven and smell worse than produce and dairy left in a dumpster for a month.
As long as Trump is NO WHERE near an elected office I could care less about him.
Better check in with BIden, he may nominate you for the next SCOTUS opening.
We don't know if he is guilty, which is the point of the trial.
You seem to want him to give him a pass, because he is Donald??? Even though there is enough for a Grand Jury to order a trial. Donald is not above the process. If he is found innocent, so be it. Mike Pence is Donald's biggest problem, not those like me that want to see the process followed...
If you think Mike Pence stands for anything but the advancement of Mike Pence's career, you are slower than Joe Biden after 7 PM.
As for Trump, blatantly absurd standards are being used here. Quick, name me the last four major political candidates who did the same thing Trump did (and yes there are others) and tell me what they were charged with.
I'm not voting for Trump, but this is a DNC lynching and we all know it. Excusing it because it's Trump just means your moral compass got lost in 2016.
As for Trump, blatantly absurd standards are being used here. Quick, name me the last four major political candidates who did the same thing Trump did (and yes there are others) and tell me what they were charged with.
I'm not voting for Trump, but this is a DNC lynching and we all know it. Excusing it because it's Trump just means your moral compass got lost in 2016.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Oldbear83 said:
If you think Mike Pence stands for anything but the advancement of Mike Pence's career, you are slower than Joe Biden after 7 PM.
As for Trump, blatantly absurd standards are being used here. Quick, name me the last four major political candidates who did the same thing Trump did (and yes there are others) and tell me what they were charged with.
I'm not voting for Trump, but this is a DNC lynching and we all know it. Excusing it because it's Trump just means your moral compass got lost in 2016.
Because you think Pence is about Pence, his testimony is set aside? Who is playing politics?
He was there, he said he was coerced under oath to throw an election if you think that doesn't require following through the legal system you need to look at your own moral compass.
This is not about who you are voting for. It is about actions taken to throw an election. Unfortunately for Donald he instills such loyalty his whole staff is testifying!
I don't know if Turley is feigning ignorance here or he truly has no idea what time it is. There are no implications here other than the state is at war with 40% of the country. And that 40% has no agency within the state, certainly not elected Republicans. https://t.co/c94Q9OPtdX
— 𝕾𝖜𝖊𝖆𝖗𝖊𝖓𝖌𝖊𝖓 🇺🇸 🏴☠️ (@Camelback71) August 4, 2023
Trump is going for that Arizona loser, Kari Lake. She was some TV anchor prior which means Trump will be pushing her for his administration. She looks good on TV. I'll give her that.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Not sure if anyone has seen Trump's current defense attorney, Alina Habba, but my God she is hot!! I hope Trump can stay strong and doesn't try to "grab her by the ***sy"!
"So often times it happens that we live our lives in chains And we never even know we have the key"
Thee University said:Trump is going for that Arizona loser, Kari Lake. She was some TV anchor prior which means Trump will be pushing her for his administration. She looks good on TV. I'll give her that.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Not sure if anyone has seen Trump's current defense attorney, Alina Habba, but my God she is hot!! I hope Trump can stay strong and doesn't try to "grab her by the ***sy"!
Come on….Kari lake looks pretty good anywhere
When our regime does it its good…when their regime does it it's bad.
The United States strongly condemns Russia’s conviction of opposition leader Aleksey Navalny on politically motivated charges. The Kremlin cannot silence the truth. Navalny should be released.
— Secretary Antony Blinken (@SecBlinken) August 4, 2023
Redbrickbear said:Thee University said:Trump is going for that Arizona loser, Kari Lake. She was some TV anchor prior which means Trump will be pushing her for his administration. She looks good on TV. I'll give her that.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Not sure if anyone has seen Trump's current defense attorney, Alina Habba, but my God she is hot!! I hope Trump can stay strong and doesn't try to "grab her by the ***sy"!
Come on….Kari lake looks pretty good anywhere
why not VP?
“Terrorizing a temple of American democracy” also is like something out of an AQ fatwa. https://t.co/DvmyeCza34
— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) August 4, 2023
So, should we call you Hunter Junior now?
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
um..Redbrickbear said:This guy and many more are allowed to vote.
— Barbaric Disciple (@barbaricvitalsm) August 4, 2023
If this isn’t a testament to the legitimacy of liberal democracy, i dunno what to tell you man https://t.co/pnDXR9n4My
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Sure would have enjoyed the mini protest had Leffingwell struck Pelosi, Nadler, Schiff and a few others in the head or mouth.
"So often times it happens that we live our lives in chains And we never even know we have the key"
As politicians go she's a raving beauty!Redbrickbear said:Thee University said:Trump is going for that Arizona loser, Kari Lake. She was some TV anchor prior which means Trump will be pushing her for his administration. She looks good on TV. I'll give her that.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Not sure if anyone has seen Trump's current defense attorney, Alina Habba, but my God she is hot!! I hope Trump can stay strong and doesn't try to "grab her by the ***sy"!
Come on….Kari lake looks pretty good anywhere
"So often times it happens that we live our lives in chains And we never even know we have the key"
Thee University said:As politicians go she's a raving beauty!Redbrickbear said:Thee University said:Trump is going for that Arizona loser, Kari Lake. She was some TV anchor prior which means Trump will be pushing her for his administration. She looks good on TV. I'll give her that.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Not sure if anyone has seen Trump's current defense attorney, Alina Habba, but my God she is hot!! I hope Trump can stay strong and doesn't try to "grab her by the ***sy"!
Come on….Kari lake looks pretty good anywhere
She is also 53 years old.
That is practically teenager years for the US Senate
Almost two years old.
— Lafayette Lee (@Partisan_O) August 4, 2023
In light of ongoing efforts to save Our Democracy, how can you read this and not laugh? pic.twitter.com/JTbAY9S4uK
At the end of the day the divide is between those that turn to Alan Dershowitz and those that turn to The View.
Trump out on bail in 3 jurisdictions
IMO this is an intensional effort to disable or kill Trump.
He is an old, out of shape, fat guy and the stress of all these garbage charges simply has to be taking a toll.
Would not be surprised if he has a stroke or heart attack.
He is an old, out of shape, fat guy and the stress of all these garbage charges simply has to be taking a toll.
Would not be surprised if he has a stroke or heart attack.
Trump is like the frickin' Energizer Bunny. I think he thrives on the attacks and the drama.KaiBear said:
IMO this is an intensional effort to disable or kill Trump.
He is an old, out of shape, fat guy and the stress of all these garbage charges simply has to be taking a toll.
Would not be surprised if he has a stroke or heart attack.
In contrast to the cadaver currently in the Oval Office, who is a broken hip away from stepping down for "health reasons".
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
Then Trump has nothing to worry about, and Smith's reliance on subpoenaed documents and testimony of the unindicted co-conspirators, Pence, and the republican staff members that are witnesses will come to naught if that's all there is to it. Should be easy to win. Baseless charges are easy to get dismissed. Just look at all of the baseless politically driven claims Trump made that were thrown out of court.Oldbear83 said:So if you flood the news with enough accusations, that makes them true because Trump ?FLBear5630 said:Well, those comments were from Trump's team of lawyers. But, I am sure she is stellar and the whole thing is "fake news" its a well oiled machine. He really gets some good advice, what indictment are we on 3 or 4.Oldbear83 said:Given what is known about the man bringing these charges, that is laughably ironic.FLBear5630 said:She doesn't have the best professional reputation according to several articles. Sounds like typical Trump, will listen to the hottie that doesn't know what she is doing. Maybe that is how he ended up indicted...RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Not sure if anyone has seen Trump's current defense attorney, Alina Habba, but my God she is hot!! I hope Trump can stay strong and doesn't try to "grab her by the ***sy"!
Look, we should all be able to agree the Donald Trump is arrogant, can't hold his tongue and sometimes is his worst enemy, but it's obvious to everyone but the malicious haters that these charges are politically driven and smell worse than produce and dairy left in a dumpster for a month.
There are some parallels, but Trump is much more like Mussolini.Wrecks Quan Dough said:Oh, please. You still lose the argument by referring to Hitler even if you don't use the name "Hitler."TexasScientist said:
In 1923, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, was imprisoned with a sentence of five years. In prison he wrote his autobiography. After his early release in 1924, backed by conservative leaders, we know the rest of the story. In 2020, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, …. to be determined.
I have the same confidence in the Justice System under Biden, as I do in your ability to care about our American Ideals, TS.
Which is to say, none whatsoever.
Which is to say, none whatsoever.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
TexasScientist said:There are some parallels, but Trump is much more like Mussolini.Wrecks Quan Dough said:Oh, please. You still lose the argument by referring to Hitler even if you don't use the name "Hitler."TexasScientist said:
In 1923, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, was imprisoned with a sentence of five years. In prison he wrote his autobiography. After his early release in 1924, backed by conservative leaders, we know the rest of the story. In 2020, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, …. to be determined.
Lol. Your President effectively commandeered social media and violated Free Speech rights for political purposes. That is fascism. And you ignore it.
Yeah, because you have no regard for impartial, fair minded, and evenhandedness in your idea of justice.Oldbear83 said:
I have the same confidence in the Justice System under Biden, as I do in your ability to care about our American Ideals, TS.
Which is to say, none whatsoever.
Nothing done by the Biden Administration or its subordinate allies has anything to do with being impartial, fair-minded, or even handedness.TexasScientist said:Yeah, because you have no regard for impartial, fair minded, and evenhandedness in your idea of justice.Oldbear83 said:
I have the same confidence in the Justice System under Biden, as I do in your ability to care about our American Ideals, TS.
Which is to say, none whatsoever.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier